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jambo
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 Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 17:58:44
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okay, i have been made an offer which i would like to think is geniune.
I would like to buy land in the rural areas. One of the villagers is keen to introduced me to the alkala of the area. what happens when we meet, do i take gifts, do i pay the money for the land. each time i ask there is a different way of doing things, what is the correct procedure, the tribe is mandinka Nuimi region.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 18:52:27
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| What ever you do, take some kola nuts with you. Traditionally it should be one hand full of kola nuts. Its the gesture not the quantity that is important. then again people have lost traditions now. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 20:46:24
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| Kons,great way of doing things,but are there any posters on Bantaba who can give a current legal breakdown of the steps involved,with an Alkalo or a private seller when land is being bought/transferred?,also what papers are given to the new owner after the transaction has been completed and who gives this paperwork? I am sure that such information would save a lot of people being ripped off by unsecruplous people. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 21:13:06
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| This topic has been exhausted. Search bantaba you will find a deatailed discussion on this. |
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toubab1020
12312 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 23:54:18
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Originally posted by kondorong
This topic has been exhausted. Search bantaba you will find a deatailed discussion on this.
OK Kons,don't be  someone MAY know  |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2007 : 10:22:38
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| thanks Kons for the advise. I know the topic has been exhausted, but it is always nice to keep upto date on tradition. i think what is worrying me it when does the money side come into play?, i will do some more research on this. It seems most of the people who have bought land have been in the kombos and have a drawn out contract period. but i have been visiting this region for a couple of years and feel the time is right to make a mark there. the families i visit will help me, but they ar epart of the land, i am an outsider, do i have to get the government departments involved |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2007 : 12:14:52
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is this the case.
The process is clear enough and should be reliable
First - find your land
Negotiate a price - the person who has found the land for you, generally gets a cut of the price from the seller if you are buying privately
Visit the local Alicalo (every Gambian community has one)
Get a land transfer document - the Alicalo being the local representative can ensure the land really is for sale and is owned by the person who claims to be selling it.
Take that paper to the Area Council Offices - they will provide official transfer documents - but only if you have the Alicalo's paper.
The Area Council will send out a surveyor who will measure the land and produce a sketch plan, this is signed and stamped.
The person selling the land must pay the government a tax on the land sold - this should be paid by the seller but is often expected from the purchaser.
All the relevant papers should then be signed by the Alicalo and by the district Chief.
Once signed by them - you pay the seller for the land and they will provide you with the papers and the receipts for the money paid for the documents - who pays for those documents should be part of the negotiation you make for the land.
Remember that once money is paid to anyone in Gambia - it is very unlikely to be recovered if the deal fails to go through; So if the seller says they want money for the paperwork BEWARE, until the documents are complete - the deal can fall through and any money outlaid is lost.
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2007 : 12:19:44
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is there a set % of the land value for tax, what is the time scale it is questions like this i would like to know the answers to before i take the next step  |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 20 Jun 2007 : 13:48:18
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Originally posted by jambo
is there a set % of the land value for tax, what is the time scale it is questions like this i would like to know the answers to before i take the next step
Very sensible too,come on experts give your input! |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2007 : 14:35:46
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Find a Gambian solicitor you can trust.
Also make sure the person selling the land really owns it.
Finally not all alkalas can be trusted. Some are out for self interest.
It is a very risky business and I remind you the advice of my accountants advice. Dont invest in Africa anything you cant afford to loose. It other words you may need to cut your losses and walk away at some point in the future. |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2007 : 16:33:32
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| thanks bev, i do remember you advice, but it would nice to hear from someone who has bought land and dealt with the local people, what did they pay and what was the timescale. |
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toubab1020
12312 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2007 : 17:17:57
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quote:
Originally posted by jambo
thanks bev, i do remember you advice, but it would nice to hear from someone who has bought land and dealt with the local people, what did they pay and what was the timescale.
Yes, it would be nice wouldn't it! |
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tintinto
United Kingdom
105 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2007 : 09:45:51
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| I have a friend called Aziz Jeng, very honest man i have known him for 12 years, he deals in land, and has reasently after years of court procedures gained posesion of a lot of land in the Tugering area, plus other area's. his company is called "Dulab Real Estate", unfortunately the website is being updated at present, Jeng comes from a very good family, his Brother Idi Jobe is the owner of "Elton" Service Station's. Jeng is very educated regarding the laws of land, and represented himself in the courts, so he is able to give good advice, he has sold land to lots of European's over the years (including myself) and has a good reputation, i can highly recomend him. |
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concort
365 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2007 : 10:04:56
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| It's been a couple of years since I bought a land in Sanyang and I paid around 17% tax. Things may have changed since then so please don't quote me word for word. |
As Salamu Alaikum Waramatullah Wabarakatu |
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2007 : 10:11:16
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| What one have take in mind is that there is also a double-sale which has happens to me personally a couple of yrs back luckily for me was that i was standing firm. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Jun 2007 : 10:12:27
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Tintinto, its a brave man makes a recommendation where money is concerned!   |
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