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MADIBA
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Momodou
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 Posted - 02 Apr 2007 : 17:38:21
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| Is it the electricity poles people steal or is it illegal connections? I don’t quite understand the message this editorial is trying to convey. How is it a national disgrace? |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Apr 2007 : 17:53:33
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Momodou whatever these people steal that deprive the people their normal supply of electricity is despicable. From what i gathered prior to this editorial , is that someone was stealing poles and cables(not live) meant for new installations.
What i mean by it being National disgrace is that it does not speak well of The Gambia as a country. What will our development partners think of such things? This theft amongst others would always tend to keep away potential investors. |
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Edited by - MADIBA on 02 Apr 2007 17:54:08 |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 02 Apr 2007 : 18:11:56
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| madi , i aggree it is a despicable act but don't you think that is minor theft compaired to the large chunk that our dear leader himself is engage in .amin ,the recent arrest of a lady for no unreasonable grounds is more serious than stealing a pole. theft is a complete dishonest means to make a living .the bigger picture is more serious. |
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 02 Apr 2007 : 18:18:00
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Madiba, its scary to read how crime such as armed robbery is raising in the country at the moment which I think is more deterring for investors. Of course I agree with you that its despicable.
Perhaps I am being naïve but who would buy a stolen electricity pole? I thought these are only purchased through NAWEC. |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Apr 2007 : 18:27:22
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| Santa, you are right there are bigger thieves out there. Every thief with his/her method of apprehension. The arrest of Madame is truly unfortunate, but am proud of the stance of the media fratenity in getting her freed. The arrest of people is common in The Gambia, that Ms Manneh's is a drop in the ocean. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Apr 2007 : 18:35:23
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Momodou, you have the right to be scared. I am scared too. I recently intimated to my friend that i will definitely need a gun of my own if gov't can't control the spate of armed robbery. The borders are porous and landlords don't scrutinise tenants. The recently arrested armed robbers are mainly form Guinea Conakry, where some are said to jumped jail.
There is definitley economic hardship in The Gambia, but robbery and stealing is not the right option. Its funny Momodou who will buy poles or cables? I don't know whethr things have changed now, but in the 90s if one needed connection , poles are charged separately. So people used to buy second hand poles from Gamtel linesmen or used modified ones from local welders.
Who is to blame? Gov't alone is not our problems. Our greatest problem is attitudinal.Our bigger neighbour Senegal has been suffering energy problems for almost a year now. |
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 03 Apr 2007 : 08:38:10
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Momodou, you have the right to be scared. I am scared too. I recently intimated to my friend that i will definitely need a gun of my own if gov't can't control the spate of armed robbery. The borders are porous and landlords don't scrutinise tenants. The recently arrested armed robbers are mainly form Guinea Conakry, where some are said to jumped jail.
There is definitley economic hardship in The Gambia, but robbery and stealing is not the right option. Its funny Momodou who will buy poles or cables? I don't know whethr things have changed now, but in the 90s if one needed connection , poles are charged separately. So people used to buy second hand poles from Gamtel linesmen or used modified ones from local welders.
Who is to blame? Gov't alone is not our problems. Our greatest problem is attitudinal.Our bigger neighbour Senegal has been suffering energy problems for almost a year now.
Maddis,
I understand your stand point well. If the ordinary people steal poles and do illigal connections, I dont feel they are justified. The electricty is for all Gambians and in the end it is the ordinary citizens that suffer if there are no lights in the streets. The darkness of the streets encourages people to steal. And as you said , most of the rubbers are not citizens eigther. Gambians in the Gambia complain a lot about this things. I have observed that it is us in the diaspora that blaim government for things that they cannot do much about.
Stealing from government has been a culture in the Gambia. I remembered long timeago when the natives of villages arround the airport used to steal the runway for fencing their compounds. This was a problem. All those who have runway fences have been stolen At NewYundum and Busumbala one can see it clearly.I hope those stealing the poles be caught and given hevy senntences so as to make others stop this practice.
I am sorry if some feel that it is governments fault but I feel it is the greedy Gambians fault. |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 : 02:52:02
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| ITS the Govermen's fault. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 : 09:36:17
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| The government must take responsibilty for its actions, but likewise there is individual responsibility. If an individual does something wrong it is their own fault, no one elses. Many other people in the same circumstances act well and honestly, so dont blame the government for individuals actions. |
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 : 10:10:37
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Originally posted by gambiabev
The government must take responsibilty for its actions, but likewise there is individual responsibility. If an individual does something wrong it is their own fault, no one elses. Many other people in the same circumstances act well and honestly, so dont blame the government for individuals actions.
Bev,
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2007 : 10:00:34
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| The government should stop Old British women perverting our young Gambian and Senegalese boys as well.Its against Swedish law to have two wives in Sweden.DONT TROW STONE TO SOMEONE'S HOUSE IF YOURS IS MADE OF GLASS. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Apr 2007 : 13:52:16
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The stealing of wire and poles seems to be a wider issue than governments fault. It is an African wide issue. It is not unusual for people to hook themselves up and in a lot instances electricute themselves in Nigeria and Ghana or in other places. Or stealing wire fencing. Wherever there is a supply there is a demand. This time it is the people who steal the wire and poles who are to blame. It also indicates that there is a gap in the market for more manufactures and suppliers to sell these products. It is a potentially profitable business.
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Apr 2007 : 16:09:20
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Lemon time are you trying to say to me that because i have had a senegalese boyfriend I cant comment on any issue?!  I dont see the logic in that! |
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mansasulu
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Posted - 06 Apr 2007 : 16:38:19
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| Perhaps, its about time the government delivers its promise of providing electricity to every house. That will sure bring down the demand for stolen electric poles and wires. It seems that the only time we hear about electricity to every gambian is during elections. It took one of my relatives more than two years to get electricity after they had applied. Every time, NAWEC claims they have a shortage of meters... |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
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sab
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Apr 2007 : 17:37:39
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I’m not convinced the main reason for ‘stolen poles’ is for the use of electricity. (You do not have to travel far outside of Banjul/Serrekunda for electricity connection to be unavailable) The 'poles' would make ideal roof supports cut to any length, securing corrugated roofing. Also they would provide a safer route internally for electrical wiring but I don't believe that aspect has been thought of.
The UK have missing road signs, they are ‘stolen’ for they contain high proportion of Zinc. Anyone know where they end up?
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