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Santanfara
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 Posted - 27 Feb 2007 : 07:49:55
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the subject of music is a very controversial one in islamic aspects. some types of music are not allowed in islam .this are music which contain songs that are of rude content,sexual words,promotion of violence ,praise singing beyond limits etc.
also the use of instruments are not permitted except tamborin .so which kind of music do we listin to and what is the content ?.
some music captivate the heart and becomes adictive or hepnotic. one keep on recalling this songs even in the remembarance of God. deaden the heart.
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Santanfara
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 : 21:00:54
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| this mean even jaliba and yusu nudure's music are not halal .they both use instruments and dancers . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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kiwi
Sweden
662 Posts |
Posted - 28 Feb 2007 : 22:39:20
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I would prefer haram music  |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 01 Mar 2007 : 01:36:42
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Originally posted by kiwi
I would prefer haram music
good luck. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Mar 2007 : 03:20:57
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I TOO WOULD RATHER GO TO HELL THAN TO CHANGE MY MUSIC TASTE. THIS IS RIDICULOUS! WHEN IS IT GOING TO STOP? PRAISE SINGING IS NOT JUST SINGING FOR THE SAKE OF IT. IT IS AN ANCIENT ART FORM PASSED DOWN THROUGH THE AGES FOR GENERATIONS BEYOND MEMORY - LONG BEFORE ISLAM OR CHRISTIANITY WAS FORCED UPTON THE AFRICANS. THE ABILITY TO RECITE A FAMILY'S GENEALOGY AND HISTORY FROM MEMORY SHOULD NEVER BE SACRIFICED FOR THE SAKE OF AN ALIEN RELIGION.
SORRY IF I OFFENDED ANYONE. THAT WAS NOT MY DEED.
TAMSIER |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
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Santanfara
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Posted - 01 Mar 2007 : 20:39:27
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| alien ,what is not alien can you elaborate please. think before you start writing. i don't have any problem if you want to have baba mal or chon seck to sing dayly about your ancestors glory but please stop talking porkies about alienism . some thing alien is foriegn .african use to believe in god in there own way and they practice religion even before your glorious ancestors exist. people like mansa musa and askia muhammad most have existed before some of your ancestors. some african choose islam not because arab's have any superior culture but islam is a seprate way of life from that of the arabs culture. the prophet reppeatedly call the ancient arab life as time of ignorance. so ,blacks in africa saw some thing different in islam that is why some choose it .some of your glorious ancestors may have choosen islam ,for the love of it .if you cannot understan the wisdom behind some thing , take time to make your personal research. i have ancestors who may love people to praise them like you ,but really what good comes out such practice ? my father use to have his personal cheriots brother ,i can swear to Allah to that. but what did my father gain from been praise sing ? only enmity and jealosy . islam will remain and will insahallah over come such things. i can assure you that ,you don't know music more than i do .i choose to stop listining to it. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 02 Mar 2007 : 07:07:43
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mr tamsire ,i will finally tell you one english proverb ,which ''there is no athiest in the trenches''.
if you wish to go hell ,well that is fine by me only that i don't control who goes there . in trying to express anger ,have your limits as to what extend you can wish certain things on your self. brother going to hell is the ultimate loss man can ever experience. may God forbide that experience on all of us. when you go to sleep ,just imagine in your dreams what it will be like turning round and round in the everlasting flame.God has given you the choise to choose the type of life style to live ,so do what ever you want.you will be a big addittion to people queeuing to deny that God exist ..or that there is nothing like heaven or hell .i was told once by some one that when do i think the world will end ? i said only God knows. he said to me ,you see it is a trick by the sciencist to take peoples mind of the bigger picture. if one dies ,his/her world is finished. so why worry about when mountains will collapse and so on. may we meet death in a good state. listin to any type of music ,it is your choise. wama aliana ilalbakulbubine ..our role is only to convey the message. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2007 : 01:12:36
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| music ,the most difficult past time to forego .today in the news alcahol is causing a massive stress on the british health service yet many social drinkers are exceeding the allowable limits. for us as muslims music is also allow up a point but how many knows what music to listin and where to listin to it ? many young black youths are wasting away in the aspiration to become musicians .the time limits for music star is very short ,so look at the tv selected stars how long do they last ? music is not as beneficiary as we think . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Jun 2007 : 09:03:05
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Santanfara for me a life without music would be a life without joy.
We have spoken about this before. Your view is very puritanical.
If there is no God and no heaven, think of all the good things on this earth that you will have missed.
As you know my view is we have one life and we should live it to the full as long as we dont harm anyone in the living of it. So eat good food, drink nice wine, date lovely men/women, enjoy nice things in your home and listen to wonderful music.Life is for living. You can be a good, kind person and live life to the full.
For me moderation is the key. Nothing should become an addiction, the control should be with the individual. So dont be an alcoholic, but enjoy alcohol, and so on.
Your theory that everyone turns to 'God' when they are facing death may be true of some, but not all. Both my Grandad and my father in law bravely faced their own deaths telling me they loved me and to make the most of this life. Love is all that matters was their message. Parents, children, a life partner and the love of good friends. If we have these then we have heaven on earth. We live on in peoples memories and in our childrens genetics.
Don't limit your life in this world for fear of not reaching the next world. After all you dont know if that world is there. You dont know if your God is the 'right' God. You dont know if your version of God is correct within islam. You could have missed lots of beautiful music for NO REASON.
IF there is a GOD. IF. Would he/she really want you to live should a plain, limited life? The creator would surely want you to embrace what they created? |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 06 Jun 2007 : 12:35:26
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| heaven on earth ! you wish .with all the depression and unncessary complaints .facing death bravely .yeh right. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 06 Jun 2007 : 12:41:18
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| Santa. what kind of music do you listen to ? who are your favorite musicians? |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Jun 2007 : 12:41:47
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Heaven on earth is a state of mind. If we lead a good and peaceful life it can be achieved.
I was present when my father in law passed away. It was peaceful. He was content. He had the love of his wife, children and grandchildren and will always be remembered for the way he lived his life through the generations. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 07 Jun 2007 : 00:14:47
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bev , i didn't dispute the fact that your grand father passed away peacefully. what i was trying to put accross is that death is never peaceful .some people die calmly but the pain is always there. sadly we are just humans we have to go through it. in life we cannot all like the same things. music disturb me. you may find it that hard to believe. remember not every one like cohabitation aka sex .i withnes a lady in liecester who married a man but on the condition that the man will not have sex with her.funny isn't it .the man thought that she was mad. but she meant it .the parents where partying in the hotel whilst the husband was devorcing the lady in the same night.this is no sex before married situation.
so don't find it hard that i don't like music.
kayjatta ,thanks for enquiring .i stop listining to music since 1996.i am ok .alhamdulilah.music doesn't benefit me. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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MeMe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Feb 2008 : 14:54:22
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Thanks for starting this extremely interesting topic, Santa!
Interesting to me because I often wondered how music could be halal ... maybe it's too simple to wonder (as I do) that if we are on this planet thanks to a God and if our human achievements/talents/abilities are also thanks to a God then how can the ability to make and play instruments, write and sing songs,etc be something 'bad'? I get what you say about certain lyrics and totally agree with you, by the way 
Interesting on another level is the potted history that Tamsier has provided for us - this isn't taught in UK schools - so thanks for that |
It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna |
Edited by - MeMe on 19 Feb 2008 14:55:14 |
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