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dbaldeh
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 Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 00:11:36
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OK, all bantaba members seem to agree about solar, Gambiabev has put her finger right on the spot,where is the MONEY to come from? other [i]posters have indicated that there is a course at the GTTI to train people to install solar, that course is apparantly expensive, again where is the MONEY going to come from,all these ideas are great but it all boils down to one thing MONEY,how do people get MONEY to improve their situation?
SISTER OMEGA are you reading this topic, your ideas would be most welcome.
toubab1020, this is exactly what I mean when I say we need to invest in our populace. The money should come from us, I mean those of us lucky to have jobs in the west. How many of us have brothers and sisters who can attend these training facilities? How many of us encourage our brothers, sisters, niece, nephews to attend these technical institutions? Many of us instead try to help our brothers and sisters to get out of the country just like we did. The pride is around who can fly their siblings first instead of getting them the education they need.
To be more specific,I have a brother who is wanting to get out of the country fresh from high school. I insist that he must attend technical schools or atleast the college to learn other skills. He refused, but I offered to pay for his tuition, books and living expenses and now he is attending the GTTI mentioned earlier.
The money should come from us either as individuals or as organize groups that can help subsidize such schools so the burden would not rest on an inefficient government like the one we have. We can help create a scholarship program across the country for willing students to get their training.
The other message those of us in the Diaspora need to repatriate back home is the fact that training as a NURSE helps one even when you leave your country. With a skill set one can be productive no matter where they go. What most of us do is to pretend to be living large when we have the most unskilled jobs in the west. How many of us tell our people the kind of jobs we are doing in the diaspora?
The point is that with strong partnership, we can even build educational institutions that will teach our young women and men skills to assemble solar panels, build computers, manufacture soap without having to leave our nation. It is a matter of pride and reinvestment. Take an example of the Ghanaian guy who was working at microsoft. He went home to Ghana to build a computer technology institution of higher learning. Now this is what I call patriotism. Learn the skills and export them back home... What do you think???
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toubab1020
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Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 00:43:08
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Originally posted by dbaldeh
jobs in the west. How many of us tell our people the kind of jobs we are doing in the diaspora?
I wonder if its too late for jobs in Europe for our brother Gambians ,Europe is now enlarged to take in eastern Europe those countries that were previously under the USSR umbrella before that collapsed,the result people coming from poor countries and doing jobs at cheap rates,most of these people are welcomed as THEY HAVE SKILLS,In the days of the iron curtain people had jobs but very little money,they were not perhaps happy but they learned skills because the government made sure it had enough workers,The building industry, agriculture,all are now staffed by Eastern Europeans, they can travel WITHOUT a VISA or WORK permit,what hope for our Brothers and Sisters who are UNTRAINED to find a job in Europe,very little I would suggest.BUT if Gambia plays its cards right what do Western Europeans want to do now, go ON HOLIDAY to the SUN and live in the sunshine,SO OUR GAMBIA SHOULD ENCOURAGE that.To be fair to the government they are trying to do that in a small way with the TDAs but the Europeans are being Ghettoised(?) (not sure if there is such a word but everyone understands its meaning)Jobs would then be created at home,using the European money it may well be that the young people of this generation will have jobs in the holiday industry,but with their wages their children can have a better chance for jobs in other industries. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 00:43:08
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Originally posted by dbaldeh
jobs in the west. How many of us tell our people the kind of jobs we are doing in the diaspora?
I wonder if its too late for jobs in Europe for our brother Gambians ,Europe is now enlarged to take in eastern Europe those countries that were previously under the USSR umbrella before that collapsed,the result people coming from poor countries and doing jobs at cheap rates,most of these people are welcomed as THEY HAVE SKILLS,In the days of the iron curtain people had jobs but very little money,they were not perhaps happy but they learned skills because the government made sure it had enough workers,The building industry, agriculture,all are now staffed by Eastern Europeans, they can travel WITHOUT a VISA or WORK permit,what hope for our Brothers and Sisters who are UNTRAINED to find a job in Europe,very little I would suggest.BUT if Gambia plays its cards right what do Western Europeans want to do now, go ON HOLIDAY to the SUN and live in the sunshine,SO OUR GAMBIA SHOULD ENCOURAGE that.To be fair to the government they are trying to do that in a small way with the TDAs but the Europeans are being Ghettoised(?) (not sure if there is such a word but everyone understands its meaning)Jobs would then be created at home,using the European money it may well be that the young people of this generation will have jobs in the holiday industry,but with their wages their children can have a better chance for jobs in other industries. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 09:54:45
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Kon.What test than BUNDU NYACHE?Nothing! that's why Maddis+Lemon are running after it
To all, advising for other alternatives electricity ,
what a impact will it have , helping us to go forward?,i doubt about that.30%is high but are we forgetting the cohere of it ? i simple took example from myself, in our village (Allunhare/URD)a 80%of those using current are solar, image how much bills are this in months-years?
If we are concerning a developments of the Gambia then we most belt it all together and more over as we all knows that every thing has changed in the world particular if it comes to mater of our wallets.
Bro San: Indeed some idea of Karl Maxi isn't bad. Most favours word of him is a HAND IN HAND, socially compact for all that's why i admire this man.
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Originally posted by kondorong
Now i know you are really making fun of me. But as a sarahule man, i have just had BUNDU NYAKEH and after such a meal we just retire to sleep and very harmless. The NAA is really working on me now
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 09:54:45
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Kon.What test than BUNDU NYACHE?Nothing! that's why Maddis+Lemon are running after it
To all, advising for other alternatives electricity ,
what a impact will it have , helping us to go forward?,i doubt about that.30%is high but are we forgetting the cohere of it ? i simple took example from myself, in our village (Allunhare/URD)a 80%of those using current are solar, image how much bills are this in months-years?
If we are concerning a developments of the Gambia then we most belt it all together and more over as we all knows that every thing has changed in the world particular if it comes to mater of our wallets.
Bro San: Indeed some idea of Karl Maxi isn't bad. Most favours word of him is a HAND IN HAND, socially compact for all that's why i admire this man.
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Originally posted by kondorong
Now i know you are really making fun of me. But as a sarahule man, i have just had BUNDU NYAKEH and after such a meal we just retire to sleep and very harmless. The NAA is really working on me now
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jambo
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Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 14:26:08
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lily, i have never seen the solar lamps i sent to gambia, being sold there, that is why i bought them. also the panels are they reliable , at least if i buy it here i know what i am buying, i am being releastic, buying solar panels is a big investment |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 14:26:08
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| lily, i have never seen the solar lamps i sent to gambia, being sold there, that is why i bought them. also the panels are they reliable, at least if i buy it here i know what i am buying, i am being releastic, buying solar panels is a big investment |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 14:50:14
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Originally posted by toubab1020
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Originally posted by dbaldeh
jobs in the west. How many of us tell our people the kind of jobs we are doing in the diaspora?
I wonder if its too late for jobs in Europe for our brother Gambians ,Europe is now enlarged to take in eastern Europe those countries that were previously under the USSR umbrella before that collapsed,the result people coming from poor countries and doing jobs at cheap rates,most of these people are welcomed as THEY HAVE SKILLS,In the days of the iron curtain people had jobs but very little money,they were not perhaps happy but they learned skills because the government made sure it had enough workers,The building industry, agriculture,all are now staffed by Eastern Europeans, they can travel WITHOUT a VISA or WORK permit,what hope for our Brothers and Sisters who are UNTRAINED to find a job in Europe,very little I would suggest.BUT if Gambia plays its cards right what do Western Europeans want to do now, go ON HOLIDAY to the SUN and live in the sunshine,SO OUR GAMBIA SHOULD ENCOURAGE that.To be fair to the government they are trying to do that in a small way with the TDAs but the Europeans are being Ghettoised(?) (not sure if there is such a word but everyone understands its meaning)Jobs would then be created at home,using the European money it may well be that the young people of this generation will have jobs in the holiday industry,but with their wages their children can have a better chance for jobs in other industries.
SPOT ON!! YOU CAN'T PUT IT BETTER |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 14:50:14
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Originally posted by toubab1020
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Originally posted by dbaldeh
jobs in the west. How many of us tell our people the kind of jobs we are doing in the diaspora?
I wonder if its too late for jobs in Europe for our brother Gambians ,Europe is now enlarged to take in eastern Europe those countries that were previously under the USSR umbrella before that collapsed,the result people coming from poor countries and doing jobs at cheap rates,most of these people are welcomed as THEY HAVE SKILLS,In the days of the iron curtain people had jobs but very little money,they were not perhaps happy but they learned skills because the government made sure it had enough workers,The building industry, agriculture,all are now staffed by Eastern Europeans, they can travel WITHOUT a VISA or WORK permit,what hope for our Brothers and Sisters who are UNTRAINED to find a job in Europe,very little I would suggest.BUT if Gambia plays its cards right what do Western Europeans want to do now, go ON HOLIDAY to the SUN and live in the sunshine,SO OUR GAMBIA SHOULD ENCOURAGE that.To be fair to the government they are trying to do that in a small way with the TDAs but the Europeans are being Ghettoised(?) (not sure if there is such a word but everyone understands its meaning)Jobs would then be created at home,using the European money it may well be that the young people of this generation will have jobs in the holiday industry,but with their wages their children can have a better chance for jobs in other industries.
SPOT ON!! YOU CAN'T PUT IT BETTER |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 15:24:21
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Originally posted by jambo
lily, i have never seen the solar lamps i sent to gambia, being sold there, that is why i bought them. also the panels are they reliable, at least if i buy it here i know what i am buying, i am being releastic, buying solar panels is a big investment
I looked up solar lamps on the Argos web page but couldnt find any listed do you remember what Argos called them?,they sound good. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 15:24:21
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Originally posted by jambo
lily, i have never seen the solar lamps i sent to gambia, being sold there, that is why i bought them. also the panels are they reliable, at least if i buy it here i know what i am buying, i am being releastic, buying solar panels is a big investment
I looked up solar lamps on the Argos web page but couldnt find any listed do you remember what Argos called them?,they sound good. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Lily
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 17:32:57
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Jambo - the solar panels I have seen are reliable and reasonably priced - why think otherwise?!. A friend now has two in his compound and a large battery. He did all the wiring himself and it works well. We hope to help more friends instal this into their homes. Better than waiting for the current, better than paying over the odds for electricity. If this young man was able to I'd help him through GTTI to train properly. His problem, however, is that although he is bright and intelligent - he didn't get passed grade 9.
Investing in the country seems the best option to me. That's in its people and in its infrastructure (and I don't mean doing Yaya's job for him!!). Some of the GTTI training courses are very good and a re teaching necessary skills that will help people get jobs.
Ha. As to Gambians in Europe - I have one friend doing really well in university and another, illegal, hiding in Leeds. Guess who has the better future? |
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Lily
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 17:32:57
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Jambo - the solar panels I have seen are reliable and reasonably priced - why think otherwise?!. A friend now has two in his compound and a large battery. He did all the wiring himself and it works well. We hope to help more friends instal this into their homes. Better than waiting for the current, better than paying over the odds for electricity. If this young man was able to I'd help him through GTTI to train properly. His problem, however, is that although he is bright and intelligent - he didn't get passed grade 9.
Investing in the country seems the best option to me. That's in its people and in its infrastructure (and I don't mean doing Yaya's job for him!!). Some of the GTTI training courses are very good and a re teaching necessary skills that will help people get jobs.
Ha. As to Gambians in Europe - I have one friend doing really well in university and another, illegal, hiding in Leeds. Guess who has the better future? |
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kiwi
Sweden
662 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 18:07:17
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| There are "solar lights" or "garden lights" for outdoor use on Argos. Do they work if you bring them indoors after they are charged? |
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kiwi
Sweden
662 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 18:07:17
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| There are "solar lights" or "garden lights" for outdoor use on Argos. Do they work if you bring them indoors after they are charged? |
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