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kondorong
Gambia
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 Posted - 22 Dec 2006 : 22:05:58
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This link from the TheGambiaecho by Mathew K Jallow humbles me. I have never been touched by any piece like this one.
Whilst i may not agree in all that is said, i am very impressed about some things.
1. The realtionship between the executive and the judiciary
2. Access to justice and who determines it.
3. Prerogative of mercy
4. How patronage has become our enemy
5. The role of religion and its relationship with power.
6. The believe that only few have a natural right to enjoy the national cake at the detriment of the masses.
7. Who should determine which Gambian is a material for a pardon. I guess people from Yoro Bawol with no political clout could mobilise powerful forces like the Imam Ratib and the Supreme Islamic Council president so that we can get electricty in our village.
Quite frankly, i printed this article and promised to read it to my son when he is old enough to understand.
I am not only humbled but hopeful that Gambia has a core of well educated citizens to leap us into the future if only we utilise them effectively. A resource is only useful when harnessed.
Again i am humbled by this masterpiece. I feel like going to school and eating all the libraries in the world.
I have never met mathew nor seen him in person or known him but i believe he has far greater potentials judging by this article.
http://thegambiaecho.com/Homepage/tabid/36/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/112/HYPOCRISY--PROPAGANDA-ECHO-NEWS-ANALYSIS.aspx
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 22 Dec 2006 : 22:42:35
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Kon, I read the article too, and I must emphasize Mathew is a master writer. He use to write for the daily observer and he was very very controversial.
He is an excellent writer but sometimes it is hard to keep his head straight. He like controversies and contradictions.
I had followed his writings very closely leading to the Presidential elections. I must tell you though, he was anti NADD and was very instrumental in dividing the opposition. I always thought he could do better with his wealth of experience.
I encourage him to keep it up and join the debate on bantaba.. |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2006 : 22:42:35
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Kon, I read the article too, and I must emphasize Mathew is a master writer. He use to write for the daily observer and he was very very controversial.
He is an excellent writer but sometimes it is hard to keep his head straight. He like controversies and contradictions.
I had followed his writings very closely leading to the Presidential elections. I must tell you though, he was anti NADD and was very instrumental in dividing the opposition. I always thought he could do better with his wealth of experience.
I encourage him to keep it up and join the debate on bantaba.. |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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ylowe
USA
217 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2006 : 18:26:51
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| My favorite writer is Samateh and not mathew. I am not a good writer but i think Mathew could do better if he learns not to offend some of his readers.I am not saying dont tell the truth. |
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ylowe
USA
217 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2006 : 18:26:51
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| My favorite writer is Samateh and not mathew. I am not a good writer but i think Mathew could do better if he learns not to offend some of his readers.I am not saying dont tell the truth. |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Dec 2006 : 18:38:47
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I had followed his writings very closely leading to the Presidential elections. I must tell you though, he was anti NADD and was very instrumental in dividing the opposition
I think that was quite noble of Mathew because it shows that he is not a mere appeaser but a defender of truth. Being anti-Nadd is also quite noble because that grouping is a complete facade meant to further the clandestine political objectives of few Mr Bigmouths. I am grateful to Mathew.
Merry Christmass, Mathew. |
I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2006 : 18:38:47
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I had followed his writings very closely leading to the Presidential elections. I must tell you though, he was anti NADD and was very instrumental in dividing the opposition
I think that was quite noble of Mathew because it shows that he is not a mere appeaser but a defender of truth. Being anti-Nadd is also quite noble because that grouping is a complete facade meant to further the clandestine political objectives of few Mr Bigmouths. I am grateful to Mathew.
Merry Christmass, Mathew. |
I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
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Cornelius
Sweden
1051 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2006 : 19:19:11
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We could, and I think that we ought to discuss these several points very seriously.
As a slight extension of “ 5. The role of religion and its relationship with power ” which has deeper domestic implications – for example it is said that in Senegal the Sufi brotherhoods are crucial as a basic political organisational structure and source of financial strength. Much like the Black Church as an organistational structure, already in place, in those crucial days of the Civil Rights Movement - Rev Dr. Martin Luther King, Andrew Young, Jesse Jackson and many other famous ones. I have asked Sheikh Hassan Cisse of Tijaniyya in Senegal, about this on more than one occasion, also enquired of his student, Babacar Konte also of Medina, Kaolack, but didn’t get very far. The Gambia is another structure, organisation and religion (with all that boozing and cigarettes you’ve been discussing recently) is of another dimension when we compare the Gambia with Sheikh Ahmadou Bamba territory.
I also tried to ask Sheikh Cherno Barry, but didn’t get close enough…..
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ%2CGGLJ%3A2006-51%2CGGLJ%3Aen&q=Sheikh+Ahmadou+Bamba&btnG=Search&meta=
( Where’s Musa Pembo, when his Islam is being discussed? And who says that I’m only “pretending” an interest in Islam?)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-51,GGLJ:en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=The+impact+of+Sufi+Brotherhoods+in+Senegal+politics&spell=1
Let me extend this “role of religion” to the Foreign affairs sphere and there the Gambia is a member of OIC club which has it’s own special agenda and must get substantial monies from that united organ. In fact I looked at the agenda last week and found what was at the very top was not Darfur! Check it out!
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ%2CGGLJ%3A2006-51%2CGGLJ%3Aen&q=++OIC&meta=
I should like to say that I do not think that Gambia's relationship with Iran and/or other alliances with anti-Americanists ought to be the cornerstone or centrepiece of Gambia's foreign policy....there is nothing wrong with being non-aligned either, and as has been pointed out, it is not merely knowing where your personal bread is being buttered or can be peanut-buttered and jammed, that is the sole determinant.
So we should expect Mr. Jammeh to know at all times and not forget, what is best for his nation.
[u] To those more deeply interested parties, I was referring to this agenda:
http://www.oic-oci.org/baku2006/english/agenda.htm
Now to something quite else and mostly to KARAMBA ( but you may spy if you want)
I also want to thank brother Karamba for standing up for me that time. I appreciate and will not forget an act of bravery ( in defiance of cowardice) and in support of open justice . Since I was born , no one, and I am very sensitive - no Jew, none of my numerous teachers, friends, some relatives e.g. my brother-in-law, Saul, no Israeli ambassador, no chief Rabbi, no Israeli or American politician, no professor, no Kohen, none of the Holocaust survivors from the concentration camps, that I have met, not even the orthodox rabbi in charge of conversions has ever told me, some of what I have been told on Bantaba, e.g. “I have more Jewish ancestors than you with your borrowed Judaism” not by those who have neither a Jewish mother nor the love that is to be found in the heart of all who espouses AHAVAT TZIYON – it is not because King David’s ancestor is a convert (borrowed Judaism?) I love and I feel myself loved, as if my ancestors were at Mt. Sinai – and who in Germany can say that they were not?
When a man loves a woman, he cannot “overdo” it - GOD loves Israel and only those who do not have a good heart, and have never known love, have never been loved – the way that I love, can talk about “overdoing” – and I don’t have to quote from the pantheon or Parnassus of Romantic English poetry. If I am indeed unarmed, everyone in Bantaba is NOT unarmed. We must realise that. It is not everyone in Bantaba apart from the SS trooper who could conveniently fit into George Bernard Shaw’s boast/conceit about Shakespeare when he said - a quote I remember from Mr. English teacher Von Bradshaw and attributed to George Bernard Shaw:
“ I can think of no writer in the English language, not even Sir Walter Scott, who I more despise than Shakespeare, when I match my intellect against his own.”
Well, like Shakespeare, I too know “Little Latin and less Greek”
but I can quote a Hebrew Psalm:
Psalm 137: 5-6 :
“If I forget you , O Jerusalem
Let my right hand wither;
Let my tongue stick to my palate
If I cease to think about you,
if I do not keep Jerusalem in memory even
In my happiest hour.”
I asked Rabbi Chaim about it quite some time ago, and he told me, “Those who left, can come back “. As Hosea says , Hosea 6:1 “Come let us turn back to Hashem”
A good book about modern Israel is :
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-51,GGLJ:en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=ABBA+EBAN:+My+country:The+story+of+Modern+Israel&spell=1
and also
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-51,GGLJ:en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=++Voice+of+Israel++by+ABBA+EBAN&spell=1
But the roots of one-upmanship Nazism, with its racist and racial ethos of White Aryan Supremacy and post war laws of Nuremburg mentality, would not integrate the Ethiopians, and all the Jews that fled or had to flee from Arab lands, either. My friend Menachem from Yemen & Ethiopia, is sometimes approached to be asked, “ When did you convert?” and his answer?
“3, 300 years ago !”
I would also like to point out again, for the sake of clarity, and it is nota hidden personal revelation, I have a younger brother Harold who lives in Den Haag ( 32 months younger) we are of the same mother and father – my birth certificate, a Sierra Leone document (W/L 228881) says:
Mother: Evelyn Kathleen Hamelberg, (nee Boston) - and my mother and grandmother are of absolute Yoruba origin.
Father : Theodor Joseph Hamelberg
Nationality of Father: British West Indian
Yet, no one in the Diaspora has told me “ I have more African ancestors than you” – that would be a cheap joke, even from Adam Rafman or Aba Abraham, Louis Farrakhan, Rap Brown, El- Hajj Malik al-Shabbaz or any one of Kunta Kinte’s belongings…..
However I/we did hear one of the greatest contemporary Talmudic scholars say, in the great synagogue of Stockholm
[black]"WE ALL CAME FROM AFRICA"
I nudged the Polish guy sitting to my right, "did you hear that?" and he whispered back in my ear " There's always a black sheep in every family"
His Majesty the King and Her Majesty the Queen of Sweden, the prime minister Goran Persson, a very gaunt-looking Paul Kagame and other local and international dignitaies were at that service...
But what usually happens with seasoned racists ( depending on their audience) is for them to say ( not “I had black slaves” or Hail Mary! etc) but, “some of my best friends are African” and of course certainly not “ I have more black blood than you” that would have to be visible ( Got to be good looking cause she’s so hard to see” ( Beatles) and that DNA and genealogy lying thing. – Of course it’s also easy to say, if you are nameless, and faceless, it’s easy to say like me “ I have access to £300 million!” – or my cousin was chief rabbi of Frankfurt……or two hundred years after the invasion of Iraq, to say, Saddam Hussein was my granduncle, or some pauper who would rather be Queen of Berlin saying in my last life I was married to Bill Gates in cyberspace. In cyberspace people can be anything. Even the ugliest who dare not show the slightest trace of a real face can say “ I’m the beauty Queen!”
But Alhamdulillah we have Santanfara here to shout: BRING YOUR PROOF!!!!!
One thing: Germany is a big country and I do have relatives there and in Holland too. What someone doesn’t say, ( to the trained investigative ear) is more important than some of the million words or fake emotions. “Terribly angry” for what? Next you’ll hear them being more catholic than the Pope Pius XII….
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ%2CGGLJ%3A2006-51%2CGGLJ%3Aen&q=+The+Nazi+Pope+Pius&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB
But Benedictus XVI is making amends
Names get recycled in a family….(Cornelius, means horn…..
Karamba, Imam Ali, alaihi salaam says that a dog is better than an ungrateful person.
I myself am no coward, that’s why I’m waiting, and I am not alone, all Israel is waiting![/blue[/blue]] |
Edited by - Cornelius on 24 Dec 2006 00:44:28 |
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Cornelius
Sweden
1051 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2006 : 19:19:11
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We could, and I think that we ought to discuss these several points very seriously.
As a slight extension of “ 5. The role of religion and its relationship with power ” which has deeper domestic implications – for example it is said that in Senegal the Sufi brotherhoods are crucial as a basic political organisational structure and source of financial strength. Much like the Black Church as an organistational structure, already in place, in those crucial days of the Civil Rights Movement - Rev Dr. Martin Luther King, Andrew Young, Jesse Jackson and many other famous ones. I have asked Sheikh Hassan Cisse of Tijaniyya in Senegal, about this on more than one occasion, also enquired of his student, Babacar Konte also of Medina, Kaolack, but didn’t get very far. The Gambia is another structure, organisation and religion (with all that boozing and cigarettes you’ve been discussing recently) is of another dimension when we compare the Gambia with Sheikh Ahmadou Bamba territory.
I also tried to ask Sheikh Cherno Barry, but didn’t get close enough…..
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ%2CGGLJ%3A2006-51%2CGGLJ%3Aen&q=Sheikh+Ahmadou+Bamba&btnG=Search&meta=
( Where’s Musa Pembo, when his Islam is being discussed? And who says that I’m only “pretending” an interest in Islam?)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-51,GGLJ:en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=The+impact+of+Sufi+Brotherhoods+in+Senegal+politics&spell=1
Let me extend this “role of religion” to the Foreign affairs sphere and there the Gambia is a member of OIC club which has it’s own special agenda and must get substantial monies from that united organ. In fact I looked at the agenda last week and found what was at the very top was not Darfur! Check it out!
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ%2CGGLJ%3A2006-51%2CGGLJ%3Aen&q=++OIC&meta=
I should like to say that I do not think that Gambia's relationship with Iran and/or other alliances with anti-Americanists ought to be the cornerstone or centrepiece of Gambia's foreign policy....there is nothing wrong with being non-aligned either, and as has been pointed out, it is not merely knowing where your personal bread is being buttered or can be peanut-buttered and jammed, that is the sole determinant.
So we should expect Mr. Jammeh to know at all times and not forget, what is best for his nation.
[u] To those more deeply interested parties, I was referring to this agenda:
http://www.oic-oci.org/baku2006/english/agenda.htm
Now to something quite else and mostly to KARAMBA ( but you may spy if you want)
I also want to thank brother Karamba for standing up for me that time. I appreciate and will not forget an act of bravery ( in defiance of cowardice) and in support of open justice . Since I was born , no one, and I am very sensitive - no Jew, none of my numerous teachers, friends, some relatives e.g. my brother-in-law, Saul, no Israeli ambassador, no chief Rabbi, no Israeli or American politician, no professor, no Kohen, none of the Holocaust survivors from the concentration camps, that I have met, not even the orthodox rabbi in charge of conversions has ever told me, some of what I have been told on Bantaba, e.g. “I have more Jewish ancestors than you with your borrowed Judaism” not by those who have neither a Jewish mother nor the love that is to be found in the heart of all who espouses AHAVAT TZIYON – it is not because King David’s ancestor is a convert (borrowed Judaism?) I love and I feel myself loved, as if my ancestors were at Mt. Sinai – and who in Germany can say that they were not?
When a man loves a woman, he cannot “overdo” it - GOD loves Israel and only those who do not have a good heart, and have never known love, have never been loved – the way that I love, can talk about “overdoing” – and I don’t have to quote from the pantheon or Parnassus of Romantic English poetry. If I am indeed unarmed, everyone in Bantaba is NOT unarmed. We must realise that. It is not everyone in Bantaba apart from the SS trooper who could conveniently fit into George Bernard Shaw’s boast/conceit about Shakespeare when he said - a quote I remember from Mr. English teacher Von Bradshaw and attributed to George Bernard Shaw:
“ I can think of no writer in the English language, not even Sir Walter Scott, who I more despise than Shakespeare, when I match my intellect against his own.”
Well, like Shakespeare, I too know “Little Latin and less Greek”
but I can quote a Hebrew Psalm:
Psalm 137: 5-6 :
“If I forget you , O Jerusalem
Let my right hand wither;
Let my tongue stick to my palate
If I cease to think about you,
if I do not keep Jerusalem in memory even
In my happiest hour.”
I asked Rabbi Chaim about it quite some time ago, and he told me, “Those who left, can come back “. As Hosea says , Hosea 6:1 “Come let us turn back to Hashem”
A good book about modern Israel is :
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-51,GGLJ:en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=ABBA+EBAN:+My+country:The+story+of+Modern+Israel&spell=1
and also
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-51,GGLJ:en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=++Voice+of+Israel++by+ABBA+EBAN&spell=1
But the roots of one-upmanship Nazism, with its racist and racial ethos of White Aryan Supremacy and post war laws of Nuremburg mentality, would not integrate the Ethiopians, and all the Jews that fled or had to flee from Arab lands, either. My friend Menachem from Yemen & Ethiopia, is sometimes approached to be asked, “ When did you convert?” and his answer?
“3, 300 years ago !”
I would also like to point out again, for the sake of clarity, and it is nota hidden personal revelation, I have a younger brother Harold who lives in Den Haag ( 32 months younger) we are of the same mother and father – my birth certificate, a Sierra Leone document (W/L 228881) says:
Mother: Evelyn Kathleen Hamelberg, (nee Boston) - and my mother and grandmother are of absolute Yoruba origin.
Father : Theodor Joseph Hamelberg
Nationality of Father: British West Indian
Yet, no one in the Diaspora has told me “ I have more African ancestors than you” – that would be a cheap joke, even from Adam Rafman or Aba Abraham, Louis Farrakhan, Rap Brown, El- Hajj Malik al-Shabbaz or any one of Kunta Kinte’s belongings…..
However I/we did hear one of the greatest contemporary Talmudic scholars say, in the great synagogue of Stockholm
[black]"WE ALL CAME FROM AFRICA"
I nudged the Polish guy sitting to my right, "did you hear that?" and he whispered back in my ear " There's always a black sheep in every family"
His Majesty the King and Her Majesty the Queen of Sweden, the prime minister Goran Persson, a very gaunt-looking Paul Kagame and other local and international dignitaies were at that service...
But what usually happens with seasoned racists ( depending on their audience) is for them to say ( not “I had black slaves” or Hail Mary! etc) but, “some of my best friends are African” and of course certainly not “ I have more black blood than you” that would have to be visible ( Got to be good looking cause she’s so hard to see” ( Beatles) and that DNA and genealogy lying thing. – Of course it’s also easy to say, if you are nameless, and faceless, it’s easy to say like me “ I have access to £300 million!” – or my cousin was chief rabbi of Frankfurt……or two hundred years after the invasion of Iraq, to say, Saddam Hussein was my granduncle, or some pauper who would rather be Queen of Berlin saying in my last life I was married to Bill Gates in cyberspace. In cyberspace people can be anything. Even the ugliest who dare not show the slightest trace of a real face can say “ I’m the beauty Queen!”
But Alhamdulillah we have Santanfara here to shout: BRING YOUR PROOF!!!!!
One thing: Germany is a big country and I do have relatives there and in Holland too. What someone doesn’t say, ( to the trained investigative ear) is more important than some of the million words or fake emotions. “Terribly angry” for what? Next you’ll hear them being more catholic than the Pope Pius XII….
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ%2CGGLJ%3A2006-51%2CGGLJ%3Aen&q=+The+Nazi+Pope+Pius&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB
But Benedictus XVI is making amends
Names get recycled in a family….(Cornelius, means horn…..
Karamba, Imam Ali, alaihi salaam says that a dog is better than an ungrateful person.
I myself am no coward, that’s why I’m waiting, and I am not alone, all Israel is waiting![/blue[/blue]] |
Edited by - Cornelius on 24 Dec 2006 00:44:28 |
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