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dbaldeh
USA
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 Posted - 23 Dec 2006 : 10:51:09
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I cannot help it but join breadman, kon (teacher), Madis, and Kon. Hopefully, this debate will allow brother breadman to put things into perspective.
We don't only look at the physical structures built by the Jammeh regime. We must look at the source of the funds and whether they are being invested in a sustainable manner. Development is not only about roads, school buildings, hospitals etc. It is about the Quality as Madis mentioned.
The government can build all the roads and schools, hospitals etc, but if they cannot find quality teachers, doctors, nurses, engineers and honest people to manage the budgets, it would just be a matter of time before those things depreciate and collapse. How many hungery kids can go to school and learn attentively? How many young moms can enter the work force if they cannot maintain good health due to poor medical facilities?
Additionally, sir breadman, where are the funds coming from that are being used to build the roads? Do we really care if we are paying half of our national budget towards serving loans? How long can we sustain paying for those loans?
Yes, I agree the President may have good intentions for developing the country, but I must point out that he has no clue what his priorities really are? It is one thing to initiate a project and another thing to sustain it.
Who dear call our educational system successful despite all the schools? How about respect for the constitutional right of citizens? Can we even talk about press freedom or right to personal property? Mr. Breadman, I guarantee, you and your family have not been touched yet, the ones crying have tasted the sword from Jammeh, it may be your turn sir... watch your back. "if they come for me at nigh, they will come for you in day light" Kondorong.
Development is about priorities, it is about sustainability, it is about utilizing resources in the best way possible. It is not about being flashy for AU summit by building Villas. It is about quality of life of citizens. Breadman, for now we have our priorities backward. Go figure.. if you really need electricity while you cannot affort a bag of rice for your family. It is a matter of survival in Gambia and you know it. Keep the debate alive though. |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2006 : 23:36:05
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Ddableh It's ironic to quote "...if you really need electricity while you cannot affort a bag of rice for your family. It is a matter of survival in Gambia and you know it."
I would personally prefer to have electrcity even if I can't afford a bag of rice. If rice in Gambia is so high why don't farmers grow cheaper alternative staples i.e yams, cassavas, potatoes, plantain etc. A country needs to have electricity in 21st Century. This should be a major priority to solve this problem for once and for all. How many Gambians living abroad have ever thought of studying engineering or practical skills such as being a plumber, electrician etc. To construct public work infrastructures etc. Whilst considering all those job opportunities available within Gambia because of its underdevelopment the brain drain outside of the country alone could build the nation. The biggest obstacle in the nations path is politics. And this seems to be Africa's nemisis its preoccupation of politics which distracts its people globally from economics. We seem to be incapable of working with one another for our common good instead we bicker amongst ourselves. Whilst others profit from our confusion by buying up lands, real estate and before you know ordinary Gambians will be priced out of Gambia. And still people we profonticating whether life is better under Jawara or Jammeh. If you are young person aged 24 Jawara is a distant dimmed memory whereas Jammeh's Gambia is reality. The reality of these youth are things aren't changing quickly enough especially for those risking their lives in fishing boats on a promise of lots of money across in Europe where all the gadgets are and good life. How are Gambian Diaspora dismissing myths of western solutions to all of Gambia's problems or are they just perpetuating them?
Peace
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2006 : 23:36:05
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Ddableh It's ironic to quote "...if you really need electricity while you cannot affort a bag of rice for your family. It is a matter of survival in Gambia and you know it."
I would personally prefer to have electrcity even if I can't afford a bag of rice. If rice in Gambia is so high why don't farmers grow cheaper alternative staples i.e yams, cassavas, potatoes, plantain etc. A country needs to have electricity in 21st Century. This should be a major priority to solve this problem for once and for all. How many Gambians living abroad have ever thought of studying engineering or practical skills such as being a plumber, electrician etc. To construct public work infrastructures etc. Whilst considering all those job opportunities available within Gambia because of its underdevelopment the brain drain outside of the country alone could build the nation. The biggest obstacle in the nations path is politics. And this seems to be Africa's nemisis its preoccupation of politics which distracts its people globally from economics. We seem to be incapable of working with one another for our common good instead we bicker amongst ourselves. Whilst others profit from our confusion by buying up lands, real estate and before you know ordinary Gambians will be priced out of Gambia. And still people we profonticating whether life is better under Jawara or Jammeh. If you are young person aged 24 Jawara is a distant dimmed memory whereas Jammeh's Gambia is reality. The reality of these youth are things aren't changing quickly enough especially for those risking their lives in fishing boats on a promise of lots of money across in Europe where all the gadgets are and good life. How are Gambian Diaspora dismissing myths of western solutions to all of Gambia's problems or are they just perpetuating them?
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bread man
300 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2006 : 16:30:53
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| Well thats good. Jammeh is also human and is bound to have failures some times. However, based on our knowledge of governance in The Gambia, if we are to make comparisons then Jammeh is an angel compared to the former regime. I believe he can improve in many things but so can all other world leaders who flaws in many things and still remain loyal to their countries. One thing I know for sure is that Jammehīs vision for the Gambia is only directed towards development although as all human beings he is some times impaired by the inability to be every where every time. As a matter of fact things are going too slow for him even with all the archievement. So yes I donīt mind the critisms, let but it has to be objective. If Jawara did as Jammeh is doing, then we would not have being where we are today. So the next president will not have to build hospitals, schools, roads etc but may he will concentrate on certain flaws that the curren govīt has. Lets hope for the best and work towards the betterment of our nation. |
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bread man
300 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2006 : 16:30:53
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| Well thats good. Jammeh is also human and is bound to have failures some times. However, based on our knowledge of governance in The Gambia, if we are to make comparisons then Jammeh is an angel compared to the former regime. I believe he can improve in many things but so can all other world leaders who flaws in many things and still remain loyal to their countries. One thing I know for sure is that Jammehīs vision for the Gambia is only directed towards development although as all human beings he is some times impaired by the inability to be every where every time. As a matter of fact things are going too slow for him even with all the archievement. So yes I donīt mind the critisms, let but it has to be objective. If Jawara did as Jammeh is doing, then we would not have being where we are today. So the next president will not have to build hospitals, schools, roads etc but may he will concentrate on certain flaws that the curren govīt has. Lets hope for the best and work towards the betterment of our nation. |
It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it. |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 29 Dec 2006 : 19:51:06
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Sister Omega, happy new year to you. You must be kidding by equating survival with basic luxury. I don't know where you are but you have been indoctrinated in that you have forgotten to barely survive you need food and water at all times. Millions of people are surviving without electricity, but they must have food to eat.
I know you understand the difference between basic necessity and added luxury for a better life. I assume you are just being sacastic by implying that you rather have electricity than rice. Rice here means food to eat anything for that matter incase you need clarification.
Let me ask you few questions, how do empty bellies grow cassava, maze, or even have the ability to walk to the farm for farming? You must be out of touch. How many years have our people survived without electricity? How many of us were born in darkness without even knowing what electricity means?
You are right, this is why Africa is so backward because we have our priorities upside down. What we need is basic food supply, shelter, and transportation. Once we get those basic things, then we can move into some more luxurious things to increase our quality of living. How can anyone sustain 24hr electricity without funds to pay for the daily maintenance of the services? I mean how do I pay for electricity when I earn $50 for the whole year? Come on sister, we need to visit home frequently to remind ourselves what really basic survival means..
As for breadman, two wrongs never make right. Bad + Bad only equates to worst. That is the equation between Jawara and Jammeh. Neither of them can pass a simple test of leadership. It is comparing the mad Vetinary doctor to the politically bankrupt soldier. God, we are so unfortunate... |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 29 Dec 2006 : 19:51:06
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Sister Omega, happy new year to you. You must be kidding by equating survival with basic luxury. I don't know where you are but you have been indoctrinated in that you have forgotten to barely survive you need food and water at all times. Millions of people are surviving without electricity, but they must have food to eat.
I know you understand the difference between basic necessity and added luxury for a better life. I assume you are just being sacastic by implying that you rather have electricity than rice. Rice here means food to eat anything for that matter incase you need clarification.
Let me ask you few questions, how do empty bellies grow cassava, maze, or even have the ability to walk to the farm for farming? You must be out of touch. How many years have our people survived without electricity? How many of us were born in darkness without even knowing what electricity means?
You are right, this is why Africa is so backward because we have our priorities upside down. What we need is basic food supply, shelter, and transportation. Once we get those basic things, then we can move into some more luxurious things to increase our quality of living. How can anyone sustain 24hr electricity without funds to pay for the daily maintenance of the services? I mean how do I pay for electricity when I earn $50 for the whole year? Come on sister, we need to visit home frequently to remind ourselves what really basic survival means..
As for breadman, two wrongs never make right. Bad + Bad only equates to worst. That is the equation between Jawara and Jammeh. Neither of them can pass a simple test of leadership. It is comparing the mad Vetinary doctor to the politically bankrupt soldier. God, we are so unfortunate... |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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bread man
300 Posts |
Posted - 30 Dec 2006 : 14:44:19
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| Now Dbaldeh, who would you have elected into office since Jammeh is bad even though over 60% of Gambians do not think so. I believe that we are all part of the Gambia and we should work together to bring changes into what can be developed. So welcome to add your views to the govīt homeside. |
It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it. |
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bread man
300 Posts |
Posted - 30 Dec 2006 : 14:44:19
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| Now Dbaldeh, who would you have elected into office since Jammeh is bad even though over 60% of Gambians do not think so. I believe that we are all part of the Gambia and we should work together to bring changes into what can be developed. So welcome to add your views to the govīt homeside. |
It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 30 Dec 2006 : 18:06:33
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Bread man,
Come up. You need growing. Who do you think does not know the blinding game behind that faulty 60+% ? You can't be wrong and get right. Be a man. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 30 Dec 2006 : 18:06:33
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Bread man,
Come up. You need growing. Who do you think does not know the blinding game behind that faulty 60+% ? You can't be wrong and get right. Be a man. |
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bread man
300 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2006 : 18:04:22
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| No body will deny that development is at the horizon. Some one talked about schools without teachers, hospitals without doctors etc but is it not a fact that they are there, and who ever will be president tommorrow will now concentrate on putting teachers and doctors in place? Lets be real and know that nation building is not a picnic but a struggle and only those willing to sweat do join it. About the election there were observers who certified the results that they were free and fair. What more can we do?? |
It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it. |
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bread man
300 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2006 : 18:04:22
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| No body will deny that development is at the horizon. Some one talked about schools without teachers, hospitals without doctors etc but is it not a fact that they are there, and who ever will be president tommorrow will now concentrate on putting teachers and doctors in place? Lets be real and know that nation building is not a picnic but a struggle and only those willing to sweat do join it. About the election there were observers who certified the results that they were free and fair. What more can we do?? |
It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2006 : 18:50:33
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Bread man,
Let us accept that Coup in the first place is undemocratic. Next we take account of how president Jammeh set himself growing wealthy while the nation drains poorer. We continue to examine the human rights records; abduction, murders, corruption etc. Are these not open facts of life in Gambia? You still want Gambians to pretend about these and to join the July 22 movement blindly? Come on bread man, take proper stock. Is this fair in the simplest sense? |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2006 : 18:50:33
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Bread man,
Let us accept that Coup in the first place is undemocratic. Next we take account of how president Jammeh set himself growing wealthy while the nation drains poorer. We continue to examine the human rights records; abduction, murders, corruption etc. Are these not open facts of life in Gambia? You still want Gambians to pretend about these and to join the July 22 movement blindly? Come on bread man, take proper stock. Is this fair in the simplest sense? |
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