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kayjatta
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 Posted - 21 Oct 2006 : 18:55:19
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Thanks Bronx for letting me know this. My congratulations to Kanja. He is a personal friend of mine despite our age gap , i guess that underscores Kanja's humility and love of people. I have no doubt about his capability. He loves agriculture and very concerned about development issues in general.
I hope Mr. Sanneh enjoys his tenure with the APRC government. |
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Aku_pickin
Christmas Island
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Posted - 21 Oct 2006 : 19:23:27
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It just goes to show the mentality of most Gambians regarding labour. This way of thinking is why most trade profession are performed by Senegalese in the Gambia. Gambians look down on certain positions and this is a backwards way of thinking. Just imagine how the Gambian economy and the lives of many would improve if Gambians were performing all the jobs that the Senegalese are doing in our country. I'm in no way anti Senegalese I'm simply making a point that we should be more like them when it comes to job/work ethics.
I make a decent living, however should I be fired or laid off; I would not hesitate to do any job that comes my way. If I have to scrub floors or work late shifts at Macdonald's there would be no hesitation on my part. This way of being and thinking is the first step in improving your economic position. Don’t ever look down on what one does as a living as you may very well be in that position one day. Life is not static it is dynamic.
This gentleman is university educated and that is the very least I can ask for in anyone holding a ministerial position under the current regime.
Perhaps the president is starting to mature as a leader but he still has a ways to go.
Hopefully he starts practicing Kaizen – which is the Japanese Strategy for Continuous Improvement |
Justice must be served as impunity brings more repression and corruption! |
Edited by - Aku_pickin on 21 Oct 2006 19:27:36 |
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Bronx
USA
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Posted - 21 Oct 2006 : 20:22:38
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Kayjatta wrote:
He is a personal friend of mine despite our age gap , i guess that underscores Kanja's humility and love of people. I have no doubt about his capability.
I don't know Kanja personally, but have spoken to people who knew him very well. They universally echo the same sentiments you expressed above. He is very helpful to Gambians in Missouri especially newly arrived students. He showed them the ropes and help those out of status get back on track. To sum it up he cares for their welfare. I don't know what his tenure working for Yahya is going to be like, but that is a risk he is willing to take and I wish him and our nation the very best.
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Oct 2006 : 21:45:36
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Aku I agree with you 100%. I am a teacher. But inbetween I have made sandwiches, worked in a crisp factory, sold second hand stuff on a market stall, worked late nights behind the bar of a club etc etc. I would do any job to give my kids food on the table.
Senegalese seem to have this attitude. Gambians seem to have a pride about what job they will do? Correct me if I am wrong. Just my feeling. |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 21 Oct 2006 : 21:55:13
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Bronx:
As a matter of fact Kanja was once my host. We used to eat out together at restaurants , go to his college and I will play with the computer in his office while he lectured his students.
A few days before he left for the Gambia he and his wife came to my job and he told me he was leaving for home.
I am saddened that others will judge the man by his job as a cna. But a man with three masters degrees working as a nurses aide deserves to be commended atleast as very humble and tolerant.
Remember Marx probably never even had a job , and Einstein could not get a job for a very long time and ended up working in a patent office under terrible conditions and pay.
I don't support APRC and I don't think I can work with Jammeh but Kanja's appointment is commendable. I am excited about it. |
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Aku_pickin
Christmas Island
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Posted - 21 Oct 2006 : 22:05:53
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Bev, your observations are correct. However I wouldn’t just label only Gambians as having too much pride as it exists in every society in the world. But yes, I agree that this attitude is indeed more prevalent in the Gambia.
We Gambians certainly need to change our mindset if we are to progress.
Do what you must (legal of course) to put food on the table.
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Justice must be served as impunity brings more repression and corruption! |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 25 Oct 2006 : 20:54:29
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perhaps we must give people opportunities. thats all. Several people left very well paying and influential jobs to sacrifice for their country. Money is not the issue. you can never tell whats inside people. here are a few example.
1. Alasan Ouattara: rose to become deputy director (head) at the IMF ,left to go back and become a finance minister/prime minister in his country in Ivory Coast. today he is called a foreigner!
2. Mrs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, one of the directors of the World Bank. left to become finance minister in Nigeria, leading it to become the first african country to clear its debt.
i know several gambian examples but i will not name them.
it is not about money. given the opportunity people can perform and make sacrifices for their country. lets give everyone a chance. this is what i think. |
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Bronx
USA
159 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2006 : 23:24:31
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Ebra,
Slow your roll. Calm down and take a deep breathe. You may not like the man but it takes a lot of dedication to get three masters degrees. Ministers are not supposed to be the technocrats in charge of their ministries. They are political appointees. The perm secretaries are the technocrats in every ministry.
You steep too low by bringing his daughter's name into this conversation. You further lied by saying that you dine with her all the time. I spoke to a lot of Gambians in Kansas city and his daughter keeps to herself most of the time. She doesn't dine with you. DON'T MAKE UP ****. |
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kayjatta
2978 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2006 : 01:55:58
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I do not want to be seen to be in defence of Kanja . I am sure he can defend himself against any unwarranted attacks by anyone.
I however , think Kanja's appointment is commendable in that it will enable an attempt of new ideas in a department that has been riddled with difficulties for a long time ; and having known Kanja personally I know he has the will and qualification to contribute . Whether he will succeed or not remains to be seen. The department of Agriculture has changed hands several times in the past, including those of Jammeh and recently Yankuba Touray both of whom have scanty if any qualifications compared to Kanja.Yet Ebra supports Jammeh's presidency without objection and has no critique for Yankuba Touray's ineffective leadership at the department of agriculture for years.
I would not have done three masters's degrees if I were Kanja. I would have instead done a Phd. , that's what most colleges and universities prefer of a professor or associate professor, but I guess that is his choice.
I am willing to give Kanja a chance to play his part, although I understand that success at the department of agric. will be determined by the broader national economic effort and strategy beyond the office walls of the department of agriculture. |
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Ebra
Gambia
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Posted - 26 Oct 2006 : 03:47:50
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| I must apologize for going too far but as human being is prone to errors. I am so sorry for offending any one's feeling. I didn't meant to deliver it that way. Kanja sorry for any of my comments that may cause you feel bad. |
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Bronx
USA
159 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2006 : 04:01:36
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Ebra,
To err is human |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2006 : 10:44:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Ebra
I must apologize for going too far but as human being is prone to errors. I am so sorry for offending any one's feeling. I didn't meant to deliver it that way. Kanja sorry for any of my comments that may cause you feel bad.
Thanks Ebra for that spirit and soberness!
Guys like former Honourable Musa Menga, Ex-Agric. Minister served as Principal Agricultural Officer and head of Sapu for over fifteen years before his appointment as minister. He was later relief from his duties although without regrets to him as he had an international appointment and a better paid job than the ministrial position. These appointments are dynamic and challenging for political reasons.
However, wishing Kanja well with his position and new challenges! |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 11:39:32
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Its always a big challenge to serve under political appointments irrespective of your qualifications. Kanja is said to have bag three Masters, it may not be important for his new job as it requyires to be a good politician also to survive Gambian politics. Former NAWEC MD Mr Jobe is a Masters holder with a wealth of experience almost over 15 - 20 years under the utilities company, former GRTS Director Bora Mboge also is a Master holder and a life time career with Radio towards the advent of GRTS were all now weeded out not for corruption but political reasons.
However it is interesting to observe that present Director General of GRTS Mr Alhaji Momodou Sanyang (former NRTS news reporter for Kanilai and Presidential trails) is non degree holder and without any management skills but very solid and comfortable with his position at GRTS! Can someone help us with; who is Alhaji Momodou Sanyang or a brief profile?
Thats Gambian politics! Only the lucky ones survives! |
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Cornelius
Sweden
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Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 15:09:00
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There's too much emphasis on bookmanity - considering that there are a good number of educated fools.
Question is, is he doing the job satisfactorily, not that everyone has to line up for an IQ test and the posts will go to those among the fittest survivors.
Think of Michael Imoudu, one of my Yoruba professor's idols.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Momodou+Sanyang&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 15:17:36
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Thanks Cornelius. Its our country and we are very acquainted with the nature of politics and the xenephobias within the systems and affecting society with FEAR to challenge its effects!
We passed who is doing the job well and professionalism. Under previous eras, its about who is my darling, love, as in a marraige relationship? Thats the status quo until something is done under this new era. However there appears to be some hope as te President is now fully mature to lead this nation.
Recently the President has said some sense and if he is realistic they will perform based on merit and not banking on politics and favouritism or voluntarily serving as hypocrites to report so and so. Read From The Observer Newspaper Jammeh addresses new cabinet under http://www.observer.gm/enews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6164&Itemid=33
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