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Babylon



Sweden
691 Posts

Posted - 20 Sep 2006 :  19:48:09  Show Profile Send Babylon a Private Message
Iīm sorry, but I have never seen starvation in the Gambia. Even if there was, it is a muslim country where people help eachother and you can always go and eat at your neighbours and friends house. So being a prostitute because of starvation... no I canīt imagine that happening in Gambia. There is always food for everyone.
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toubab

Gambia
92 Posts

Posted - 20 Sep 2006 :  21:52:14  Show Profile Send toubab a Private Message
You're right Bev, the main highways all have truck stops, and at these truck stops are the prostitutes. My sister travelled the length and breadth of Africa in the late seventies and this was the case even then. As for starvation in The Gambia, well come and live here and see daily life for yourself. The main diet is carbohydrate, bread and rice and beans.Fish, meat, fruit, potatoes and vegetables cost precious money!!
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Babylon



Sweden
691 Posts

Posted - 20 Sep 2006 :  23:02:46  Show Profile Send Babylon a Private Message
Well toubab, I know Gambians aint exactly starving like in Darfur. Or what is it youīre trying to tell me toubabou?
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Babylon



Sweden
691 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2006 :  00:09:17  Show Profile Send Babylon a Private Message
Dear folks!
From all your postings here about prostitution I draw the conclusion that more toubabs than Gambians here at the Bantaba accept prostitution as a way of making a living. You are the only ones who "really understand" why anyone would become a prostitute which I find a little strange. As for me Prostituion is always a tragedy and should not be an option for supporting yourself. Far from all people who live in poverty prostitute themselves, because it is really not necessary -you can always find other, better ways to survive. So why is it that some people do it and most people dont?

And I just wonder What on earth do these white people here at the bantaba teach their children?

Could this be a possible scenario:

Mom: "Look sweetheart, mOm is so broke now and we canīt buy you the Nikes unless I go spread my legs to a couple of guys.
I could try and get a job in the supermarket of course and have an extra job as well, but you see my child This brings a lot more money much faster"

Kid: "Mom, can I be a prostitute as well when I grow up?"

Mom: "Of course you can dear, you have the right to make a living in any way you can"...

Sounds like an episode from the Twilight zone.

Enough said, let me give yall a little rest now before your headaches get worse.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2006 :  00:46:57  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Babylon..do you think only white people prostitute themselves?

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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2006 :  08:44:15  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Affording food is a problem for many people in Gambia. It might not be severe starvation but there is a very limited diet and some of the people I know can have days without food. Bread, rice and beans is the main diet. Fish if you are lucky and the supply isnt easy in some places. In Kolior the diet is very limited indeed. The children look very thin to me.
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Babylon



Sweden
691 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2006 :  11:38:08  Show Profile Send Babylon a Private Message
Bread, rice and beans is btw a good basic diet. If you have beans you donīt really need meat or fish because beans is naturally high in protein already.
And just because the kids in Gambia look skinny that donīt mean they are sick, lacking of nutrition or starving. These children are living in the heat and they are usually more physically active than our nintendo playing western kids. I would worry more about the overweight kids here in the west, their overeating and fatty diets are the real lack of nutrition. A meal is two handfulls, more than that is hard for the stomach to handle.
And no, of course there arent only white prostitutes! What I meant was that there seems to be a big lack of values with many toubabs here at the bantaba.
This is not a black Vs white thing, but whites Do seem to have a more open mind to these kind of immoral activities and no problem with it whiles for africans it is a great shame. Generally and honestly speaking.
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Babylon



Sweden
691 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2006 :  11:42:48  Show Profile Send Babylon a Private Message
i dont believe for a moment that you, Gambiabev, have friends who go days without eating. I think this is very unusual in Gambia and so I cant believe in that. Maybe that is something someone would tell you to make you give them your money?
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toubab

Gambia
92 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2006 :  13:59:25  Show Profile Send toubab a Private Message
Maybe you are right Babylon with your statement 'whites' seem to have a more open mind.Maybe some of us do, and is that such a bad thing, just because we don't castigate people for their choices in life, by no way means we condone it.I would not dream of telling people how to live their lives, would you? Maybe if we were ALL more tolerant in the way people live their lives and the choices they make, the world wouldn't be in such a s**t state.
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mbay

Germany
1007 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2006 :  16:06:33  Show Profile Send mbay a Private Message
Starvation? Are we all not from the Gambia?
We a in very net of poverty label but talking of Starvations is nothing but Blanco talk! Why are you putting the fact on side because of politically interest and painting us with your black oil Colore?
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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2006 :  18:57:13  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Babylon

i dont believe for a moment that you, Gambiabev, have friends who go days without eating. I think this is very unusual in Gambia and so I cant believe in that. Maybe that is something someone would tell you to make you give them your money?


You are quite right. The poverty and starvation people are talking about here now is very strange.
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LEMON TIME



Afghanistan
1295 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2006 :  19:33:34  Show Profile Send LEMON TIME a Private Message
true

There is no god but Allah
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kassma



334 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2006 :  19:44:54  Show Profile Send kassma a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Babylon

Well toubab, I know Gambians aint exactly starving like in Darfur. Or what is it youīre trying to tell me toubabou?



babylon, i hate to say it, but the more you talk the more ignorant you sound. there are lots of Gambians, who go to bed without food, lots of Gambians and a relative of mind confirmed that when she just visited Gambia.the state of Gambia right now is very sad and for you to say, oh its a muslim nation and everyone shares with others is ignorance. when there is nothing to share, there is nothing to share. you might be able to sit and say i would never prostitute, but have you every been desperate, have you ever had to listen to your children cry all night cause they were hungry, have you ever thought you had no way to move on cause you had no money, please, think before you speak.btw, being married to a Gambian does not make you a Gambian expert
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toubab

Gambia
92 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2006 :  20:38:01  Show Profile Send toubab a Private Message
Thanks Kassama, I can only say it as I see it, the other morning there were seven young children from a compound around the corner down with our watchman, he had been to get milk from the cowman behind us and was soaking tapalapa in it, the kids cleaned the bowl out - they had not eaten since the morning before as their father was ill and could not work.No sick pay here! I saw an old man who was cultivating the empty land opposite us take mouldy bread I had put out for the birds,when I went to tell him it was bad, he said he had not eaten all day, and he had been digging in the heat all day.No old age pension for him! It happens I'm afraid, some people just do not have enough money to feed themselves and their families. As you all know the price of rice, a staple here, has shot up,but the wages haven't, so how are people expected to make ends meet. Your families that you support from Europe are very lucky, but not all have that priviledge.
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toubab1020



12314 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2006 :  21:17:01  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by toubab

Thanks Kassama, I can only say it as I see it, the other morning there were seven young children from a compound around the corner down with our watchman, he had been to get milk from the cowman behind us and was soaking tapalapa in it, the kids cleaned the bowl out - they had not eaten since the morning before as their father was ill and could not work.No sick pay here! I saw an old man who was cultivating the empty land opposite us take mouldy bread I had put out for the birds,when I went to tell him it was bad, he said he had not eaten all day, and he had been digging in the heat all day.No old age pension for him! It happens I'm afraid, some people just do not have enough money to feed themselves and their families. As you all know the price of rice, a staple here, has shot up,but the wages haven't, so how are people expected to make ends meet. Your families that you support from Europe are very lucky, but not all have that priviledge.




I applaud you Toubab,at last a true common sense reply from someone who knows and not from those who APPEAR to be using this Bantaba in furtherence of left wing ideas,and social engineering in many of the postings.That said, I will put on my tin hat and take cover from the flack to come!!!

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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