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kondorong
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OB1
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 Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 14:59:46
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Seemingly not! Anyway, there is talk that NADD and NRP/UDP will form a united front, with Darboe leading the way.....at this point any UNITED front is better than none! Halifa would have been my chioce, but IF the leadership are happy with Darboe, then so be it....
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 15:17:05
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Originally posted by kondorong
Almost every day some one is crossing the carpet from NRP or UDP. Sooner or later everyone will be green.
http://www.observer.gm/enews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5349&Itemid=33
Kondorong,
Carpet crossing has been disintegrating political parties in the Gambia ever since. Most of those who cross carpet is for their own gains. If you look back into the history of the political parties, you would find that this is a common pratice in the Gambia. People cannot trust their own convictions. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 18:11:57
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You are right Alhassan. We saw many being paraded at PPP meetings especially NCP supporters.
OB1
The talk of a united front was raised by both parties between Ousainou and Halifa and that it was to be kept a secret. Hamat Bah blew the cover and announced without authority on his recent visit to the U.S. about the arrangements. Halifa had to respond to NAAD supporters because they demanded to know the facts. However, i believe Halifa sought concurrence of the executive of NADD to talk to UDP?NRP leader on condition of secrecy until they are able to iron out the grey areas before making it public.
It therefore appears that Ousainou really wants to be part of a bigger opposition and i think he made the move first. He should be credited for that.
However, now that the cover is blown by Hamat, i don’t know if they are still proceeding as planned. Lets just hope they do. But time is really not on their side and nominations for presidency is fats approaching. It is now or never. I just don’t know how effective i will be since the initial euphoria before the breakup is now in the waste bin. FINGERS CROSSED. This is how the so-called new alliance stands. My understanding is the process has been shaken with blowing of the cover.
I personally did not support the secrecy in the first place. If there is commitment then why delay and meet in secrecy.
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jambo
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 18:41:05
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All this one way traffic  will lead no-where |
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Dalton1
3485 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 19:32:23
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Originally posted by kondorong
It therefore appears that Ousainou really wants to be part of a bigger opposition and i think he made the move first. He should be credited for that.
Kondorong,
I don't quite agree with the above assertion of yours, and to the best of my knowledge, it is as erroneous as any way suspect. What is holding the water from solidyfying then ? Those of you who are blinded by things that the genuine cannot see need to wake up. We are all in ruins. I reserve mine for now.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 19:43:46
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Originally posted by Dalton1
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Originally posted by kondorong
It therefore appears that Ousainou really wants to be part of a bigger opposition and i think he made the move first. He should be credited for that.
Kondorong,
I don't quite agree with the above assertion of yours, and to the best of my knowledge, it is as erroneous as any way suspect. What is holding the water from solidyfying then ? Those of you who are blinded by things that the genuine cannot see need to wake up. We are all in ruins. I reserve mine for now.
Yero
This is why Halifa should not allow himself to undertake a mission in secrecy. It only creates more radio kangkang. This is the story atleast according to what i heard. What you heard may be something different. No wonder Hamat blew the cover. GOD SAID LET THERE BE LIGHT AND THERE WAS LIGHT. So why should we invoke darkness and secrecy.
The wollofs say : KU DEH SI MARCHE, YAA TAGGEH SA BOPA. or better still: KOU BOT BUKI KHAJ BOW LA.
Secrecey is not a sign of commitment. I agree we are all in ruins clearly captured by the mandinka saying: NING MORO KA BEH SANG BILO KATI LA or perhaps more relevant KULU KANG SUMUNA
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OB1
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 20:14:18
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| Whilst I concede that these are trying times for the opposition, time is of the essence. If they are to get together and do what is expected of them, by the majority of Gambians, which is to UNITE, they better do so FAST. If not, they better get their campaign strategy together (separately) and hit the campaign trail FAST! The operating word here is time. They have less than 3 weeks to decide come nomination day and after that it’s all Campaign! Campaign! Campaign! The time has past for delicate fixers to iron out 'differences', if there are any. The UDP, NRP and NADD have only ONE thing in common and one GOAL....getting rid of Jammeh. Without this UNITED front Jammeh will surely win. But after UNITY is achieved and victory secured, then they can forge ahead with the more intricate things like sharing baked cakes! Everyone knows what needs to be done now, enough of the quiet chatter (negotiations). The question is can they do it? Can UDP/NRP and NADD settle their differences for the sake of progress and posterity and become one? I believe they can. Besides, this is their LAST opportunity to put up such a formidable force against Jammeh. After this, IT IS ALL OVER, forget 2011, Jammeh will stay until way past 2020 (by the ballot). Remember the maximum age to stand for presidential elections is 65! And by then who knows, Jammeh may even bring back to 55, just like the expunging of the 2nd round balloting by Joseph Joof the then SOS Justice! |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 20:15:26
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Ollof njie noneh "teiyeh muneh bahud". Sung'la waheh "hamal sah sohla, hamal sah saggoh, duh saga deh."
Y Yalla moi ahteh domi-adama. Kep koh hamneh mungih tahaw si degah, dena lerr whetch.
Na nyu yalla dembaleh !
English translation.
It's a wollof naration that says doing things forcefully-"i like to do, i can do it, regardless of what someone else thinks, or whether someone else likes it or not. This is bad." It went further to say when they are adviced to know themselves, and their good affairs, they should take heed, and not see it as an insult.
May God protect human beings.The truth will set any free.
May God help us.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 20:59:48
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Originally posted by Dalton1
Ollof njie noneh "teiyeh muneh bahud". Sung'la waheh "hamal sah sohla, hamal sah saggoh, duh saga deh."
Y Yalla moi ahteh domi-adama. Kep koh hamneh mungih tahaw si degah, dena lerr whetch.
Na nyu yalla dembaleh !
On the contrary Dalton1.
Gambia is every one's SOHLA. Therefore your wollof quotation is out of place and irrelevant here.
Gambia is for Gambians and its every ones SOHLA to participate and take charge of his destiny. I don’t need any one to speak for me. I can do that. To say its not my SOHLA is to imply i do not belong to the Gambia. Whose SOHLA is it to talk about Gambian politics? Are you the self appointed spokesman for Gambians. Certainly you do not speak for me and for hundreds of thousands more. Like my grand mother used to say: IF YOU HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY JUST KEEP QUIET.
This is the problem we have in NADD even though i am a member. We seem to believe that only Halifa is the way out and the man is being mystified right before our eyes.
We have to leave room for failure. Undertaking secret negotiations is uncalled for at this time when presidential nominations are only weeks away. The man is not infallible but we seem to be invoking divine credentials whenever his name is mentioned. Knowing what i know of politicians, i take all of them with a pinch of salt.
Many people drank the magic water in 1994 when THE SOLDIERS WITH A DIFFERENCE FOUND THEMSELVES ALONG THE CORRIDORS OF POWER. What happened to TRANPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY AND PROBITY is any ones' guess? Today, mentioning these catch phrases although so popular in 1994 has become a treasonable offence. Certainly journalists are feeling more than any group. I don’t like the intolerance I see in many NADD supporter especially when someone tries to criticize Halifa. They take an anvil to kill an ant. This intolerance in NADD members especially in the Diaspora very well resonates with the GREEN BOYS in the APRC. YOU CANNOT RUN WITH THE HARES AND HUNT WITH THE HOUNDS.Better still IF YOU LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE YOU SHOULD NOT THROW STONES
I don’t want to belong to a party that will not give me the opportunity to criticize my leader. That is a privilege at least in a democracy accorded to citizens and I intend to ejoy it while it lasts. I hosted halifa on one of his tours and I grilled him one on one for two hours. He answered my questions. The man is open to criticism but supporters don’t want to believe he is infallible or should be criticized.
I will however say amen to your prayer. Just to remind you Gambia is everyone’s SOHLA whether you belong to APRC, UDP, NRP NDAM or what ever you want to call yourself. NADD is not the only way and certainly not an end in itself. It’s just a means among many and in a democracy every one should be valued and respected even if you do not share the same political views. I may not share political views of other parties but that does not mean i should hate them. They are gambians like me, who have feelings, hopes and desires about where they want to take our country. IT IS THE MEANS, TACTICS AND APPROACH which may be different. I certainly do not consider myself any more patriotic than any other Gambian and ceratinly Halifa is not in any case. The man has not yet been tested with the priviledges of the highest office in the land and should be treated just that.
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MO MO KAFO ILA BORO LEH TIEW TIEW or in Wolof: KU RA CHA, TAYE SA KANAM. |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 21:04:01
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Kons.
I am certain you speak wollof quite well, but i am sure you misinterpreted my thread. You can now see it from the translation, before even seeing your reply. Sure, it finds place, and this is directed to the opposition, and not you as you seem to depict in your reply.It's all of our sohla of course..
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 21:14:37
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Originally posted by Dalton1
Ollof njie noneh "teiyeh muneh bahud". Sung'la waheh "hamal sah sohla, hamal sah saggoh, duh saga deh."
Y Yalla moi ahteh domi-adama. Kep koh hamneh mungih tahaw si degah, dena lerr whetch.
Na nyu yalla dembaleh !
English translation.
It's a wollof naration that says doing things forcefully-"i like to do, i can do it, regardless of what someone else thinks, or whether someone else likes it or not. This is bad." It went further to say when they are adviced to know themselves, and their good affairs, they should take heed, and not see it as an insult.
May God protect human beings.The truth will set any free.
May God help us.
You quoted the wrong saying. The correct one starts as thus: AM NA KO, MUN NA KO, TEH DINA KO DEF. This saying has a sense of arrogance around it directed at people who think they have the means and therfore will not consult any one. |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 21:18:41
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"tei yeh moneh" means doing what you like to do, regardless of what someone else thinks, likes it or not. By the way take mine to interprete what i told u. I take yours, as a rejoinder, but idioms have far greater meanings than they appear to be. We can agree on something central. You were reading too much from my short piece. For one, you thought it was directed at you. Secondly, you interpretted it to favor the direction of pointing at you.
Have a nice friday ! See you later. |
"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 21:24:02
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| Good weekend. Am signing off to drink ataya |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2006 : 03:59:46
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| CAN I HAVE "HALF CASS" OF SOME ATAYA KON. |
There is no god but Allah |
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ylowe
USA
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Posted - 06 Aug 2006 : 04:13:06
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| Kons, are you drinking "ataya" ? |
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