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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 31 May 2013 :  22:06:53  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
PDOIS DESK OFFICER CLARIFIES

The debate on whether Halifa has said that the Group of six supports the selection of an Independent candidate or not if Jammeh fails to support electoral reform has no basis. In his first letter to Hamat Bah he wrote the following:
It goes without saying that the protest vote movement which is given vibrancy by the non participation of major opposition parties provides political collateral for electoral reform. In short, if they fail to change the laws to remove the constitutional ban to be a Presidential candidate based on age, restore the second round of voting if no candidate gets 50 percent majority, take initiative to prevent governors, traditional rulers and heads of tribunals like chiefs, village heads like alkalolu from interfering with the electoral process as well as ensuring that other public officers and state resources are not relied on for the electoral campaign of the ruling party, PDOIS would join the other opposition parties, if they agree to the tactics, to support one viable and selectable independent
candidate to remove the APRC and install an interim government. Hence there is no way of escaping the potential for democratic change in 2016.
It is very clear from this that the proposal is a PDOIS one and the other parties may or may not support it if it is put across.
People who engage in this debate should read the letter again and stop distorting the facts.
Thanks
Suwaibou Touray

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone

sankalanka

270 Posts

Posted - 01 Jun 2013 :  07:30:49  Show Profile Send sankalanka a Private Message
Momodou, thanks for the clarification from PDOIS. I hope that they will continue to monitor the debates that centers around the party, and provide clarification where it is needed.

I read Halifa's response to D.A. Jawo, and I understand the bit about supporting an Independent candidate to be a PDOIS proposal, and not the position of the G6.

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Nyarikangbanna

United Kingdom
1382 Posts

Posted - 01 Jun 2013 :  20:58:52  Show Profile Send Nyarikangbanna a Private Message
My statement, which prompted this PDOIS clarification, was not based on the content of Halifa’s letter to Hamat Bah but his response to D.A Jawo’s article on the Raleigh Conference. Mr. Jawo described PDOIS’s stated reasons for Halifa’s capricious absence at the conference as vague. This prompted Halifa to state the following in his response and in reference to the G6;

''We have already reached consensus on mediation efforts and what to do if the incumbent fails to respond. This is why we were surprised by the news that the opposition leaders were at each other’s throat at Raleigh".

Two things are implicit in this statement;

(a) There is consensus on the mediation efforts to bring out electoral reform;

AND

(b) There is consensus on what to do if mediation failed to bring about electoral reform.

The question then is; where does this second limb come from and what is it all about? PDOIS’s position was articulated by Halifa as thus;


‘‘Our statement is very clear and incapable of distortion. We indicated that democratic change could come through electoral reform by restoring the second round of voting and ensuring a level ground for multi party contest but that if the incumbent resists electoral reform the Banjul Mayoral election has given us the way out. All forces should just rally behind one independent candidate to remove the incumbent and preside over a one term transition.’’


However and as far as the G6 is concern, there is no second limb to the consensus reached by the opposition parties in The Gambia. The Agreement has only one facet and that is Electoral reform and Electoral reform only. Halifa’s statement therefore not only distorts G6’s position, it is also misleading as it gave an impression about the existence of a tacit link between PDOIS’s position on the so-called second limb and G6's agenda when in fact, there is none.

Now that PDOIS has clarify its statement, we can only urge them to be cautious in their future statements and to ensure that they do not blur the line between what is G6’s position and what is theirs.

PDOIS has no mandate to speak for the G6 and the party must not think they can somehow usurp this authority to promote their party’s untenable agenda.


Thanks

I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union.

Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 02 Jun 2013 00:08:41
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Momodou



Denmark
11712 Posts

Posted - 02 Jun 2013 :  17:37:27  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
PDOIS DESK OFFICER'S CONTACT EMAIL

"I decided to intervene just to guide those who are sympathetic to PDOIS’ Position to know that they are on track. Those who belong to other parties should indicate their positions in their party and speak or write in their party’s name otherwise no one should take them seriously. Those who speak for parties cannot and should not hide behind anonymity. At home we coexist with the other party representatives under a climate of mutual respect. Our debates with them are on substance.

We do not accuse anyone of being our detractor. We are in the offensive and not in the defensive since we are ready to refute baseless criticisms and accept proper ones to improve our practice.

If any sympathizer or supporter of PDOIS wants any information to continue their mission to enlighten others, they could contact me through the following email address: suwaiboutouray@yahoo.com. If I don’t have the information I will search for it and deliver it accordingly.

PDOIS’ Desk Officer

Suwaibou Touray"

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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Nyarikangbanna

United Kingdom
1382 Posts

Posted - 02 Jun 2013 :  18:17:23  Show Profile Send Nyarikangbanna a Private Message
Nobody takes PDOIS seriously anyway. So it doesn't matter if they don't take anyone seriously. The way other party supporters interact with their party's leadership is also not PDOIS's business. They should therefore keep themselves to their own party issues if they don't want to be told off by supporters of other parties.

PDOIS has no authority to speak for the G6,and supporters of other parties will not sit idle while they (PDOIS) seek to fabricate a tacit link between their untenable party positions and G6's only agenda of electoral reform.

Thanks

I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union.

Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 02 Jun 2013 18:31:11
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 03 Jun 2013 :  03:25:16  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
[quote]Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna

My statement, which prompted this PDOIS clarification, was not based on the content of Halifa’s letter to Hamat Bah but his response to D.A Jawo’s article on the Raleigh Conference. Mr. Jawo described PDOIS’s stated reasons for Halifa’s capricious absence at the conference as vague. This prompted Halifa to state the following in his response and in reference to the G6;

OBSERVED TO BE NOTED THAT;

1. Halifa's response to D.A. Jawo and all other letters did not refer to Halifa sallah but position of an opposition party (PDOIS) on the Raleigh conference. "Hence the Secretary General (Halifa Sallah) was instructed to transmit (information through a) letter to the organisers." Anything construed personal is malicious, vile and repugnance; for it was prerogative of the party (PDOIS) to send any delegate nominated to represent the party in Raleigh conference.

2. You must be deluded and lacked focus on ”WHY PDOIS WAS NOT IN RALEIGH”, wrongfully described and personally ascribed "capricious" to it; but this “capricious” trait of yours suit only an arrogant UDP stalwart militant, bent on distortion, smearing campaign and malicious disorientation. It’s clearly your own imagination and fabrication to state that (“Mr. Jawo described PDOIS’s stated reasons for Halifa’s capricious absence at the conference as vague.”) contrary to what D.A.Jawo wrote, which is: (“While there is yet no reason why GMC never attended, but PDOIS has given a somewhat vague reason as to why it was not represented.”)?

- PDOIS as a party was addressed by D.A.Jawo but never did he mention the persona of Halifa Sallah!

- PDOIS Secretary General Halifa Sallah addressed D.A.Jawo accordingly, questioning why "(he) did not proceed to indicate what was vague about (PDOIS) statement."

- PDOIS sensible “prudence” stance prevail over your vile “capricious” deceptive thought and own personal delusions of grandeur; evident from the statement by PDOIS that: “The Central Committee therefore resolved that it was not prudent to be a part of a brainstorming exercise on the way forward since it had the potential of exposing divisions rather than bridging the strategic and tactical divides on the way forward. ”

- "Hence the Secretary General was instructed to transmit (information through a) letter to the organisers"

- THERE IS NEED TO STATE THAT "PDOIS position is a clear conceptual framing."; being only opposition party that forwarded clear cut proposals for united front, strategies, tactics and blue print for success of opposition against incumbent.

''We have already reached consensus on mediation efforts and what to do if the incumbent fails to respond. This is why we were surprised by the news that the opposition leaders were at each other’s throat at Raleigh".

3. IN TERMS OF HOW GROUP OF 6 STARTED; ROLE ALREADY PLAYED BY HALIFA SALLAH AS "SPOKESMAN" AND ACCORD (OR “CONSENSUS” OF G6 OPPOSITION PARTIES) FROM RELATED BANTABA TOPICS

HALIFA SALLAH DID NOT CLAIM ANY "SPOKESMAN" TITLE NOTED AS "REPORTED" IN THE POINT NEWS AVAILABLE FROM ABOVE; BUT ACTING VOLUNTARILY HOLDING THE FORT; CONTRIBUTING HIS QUOTA (CONSIDERING LEADERSHIP VACUUM AND NON-OF PARTY LEADERS HAD BEEN DESIGNATED WITH ANY TITLE), TO PROMOTE AND FIGHT FOR G6:
  • "Reading out the joint statement on behalf of the combined opposition parties, Halifa Sallah disclosed ..."

  • "The Secretary General of the opposition Peoples Democratic Organisation for Independence and Socialism (PDOIS), who is also the spokesperson of the Group of Six opposition parties,"

4. THE ACCORD (AND/OR GENERAL “CONSENSUS”) ON G6 (IN HERE) FOR “what to do if the incumbent fails to respond” QUOTED BELOW;
  • “Finally we would want to pledge our honour with an indelible ink that that if the IEC and the ruling APRC join the opposition to ensure genuine electoral reform the opposition will conduct itself in an admirable fashion and accept results of public elections honourably no matter who it favours.”

    However if there is no breakthrough we will not hesitate to proceed to put our case before the judgment seat of the ECOWAS Court and the tribunal of Continental and World public opinion to test the veracity of our common position so that posterity would properly make its judgment."

    "We hope together all stake holders would do what our times and circumstances dictate. To be true to the Gambia ever more and pledge our firm allegiance to the principle of holding genuine public elections that would give rise to the undiluted choice of the people.”

Its glaringly before us that your rambling are baseless and deceptive!

5. PDOIS Desk Officer already clarified on position of PDOIS above. Also hereby observed to be in order comment of PDOIS Desk Officer,which should be taken very seriously that: "Those who belong to other parties should indicate their positions in their party and speak or write in their party’s name otherwise no one should take them seriously." Therefore other opposition political parties can help with proper information; to set the records straight, counter or challenge PDOIS on any misrepresentation of G6?

Thanks!

Edited by - kobo on 03 Jun 2013 09:40:26
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 04 Jun 2013 :  04:19:53  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
HASSLE FREE FOR THE RECORDS AND COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF ROLE OF "SPOKESMAN" SIMPLY DEFINED AS;
  • "1. a person who speaks for another or for a group."
  • "2. a public speaker."

ON THE BASIS OF ABOVE DEFINITIONS, SECRETARY GENERAL OF PDOIS HALIFA SALLAH SATISFY THEM ("ON BEHALF OF THE COMBINED OPPOSITION PARTIES") FROM FOLLOWING STATEMENT; WHICH IS NOT BAD PUBLICITY FOR G6 AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME; "SIX COMBINED OPPOSITION PARTIES" FACING THE PUBLIC AND MEDIA FIRST TIME TOGETHER PRESENTING THE ACCORD

"Reading out the joint statement on behalf of the combined opposition parties, Halifa Sallah disclosed ..."

SOMEONE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OUR STRUGGLE (I.E. FOR ALL DISSIDENTS OF JAMMEH/APRC DESPOTIC REGIME) TIME, ENERGY AND RESOURCES WASTED ON PETTY SQUABBLES, CHEAP RHETORIC AND TRIVIAL ISSUES (OR A TRIVIAL MATTER) PERIOD

Thanks.

Edited by - kobo on 04 Jun 2013 06:02:29
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dbaldeh

USA
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Posted - 05 Jun 2013 :  02:01:20  Show Profile  Visit dbaldeh's Homepage Send dbaldeh a Private Message

SOMEONE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OUR STRUGGLE (I.E. FOR ALL DISSIDENTS OF JAMMEH/APRC DESPOTIC REGIME) TIME, ENERGY AND RESOURCES WASTED ON PETTY SQUABBLES, CHEAP RHETORIC AND TRIVIAL ISSUES (OR A TRIVIAL MATTER) PERIOD

Thanks.
[/quote]


I beg to differ... In any open society and democracy there are bound to be "petty squabbles, cheap Rhetoric and Trivial issues"... ... while it is true that these do exist serious citizens and leaders must remain focus on the important issues. There will always be pettiness here and there and side shows but again serious citizens and serious leaders must look beyond the pettiness...

If you want to react to every pettiness or criticism you risk losing credibility as a leader... relevance as a citizen because people won't take you seriously...

So what is the beef brother Kobo? Should we stop working seriously and let the pettiness take over the show or should we differentiate between what moves our collective progress forward and work on our differences? Which is which?

So let's be realistic, focus and put little emphasis on minor criticisms and side shows... We have a bigger task to work on and if we are distracted by little criticisms here and there... then am afraid we don't have the guts to lead or become transformational leaders.. what we have is egoistic leaders who care more about their individual reputation or character than the collective well being of the country..

Gambia we need generational shift in leadership...
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sankalanka

270 Posts

Posted - 05 Jun 2013 :  05:53:56  Show Profile Send sankalanka a Private Message
"If any sympathizer or supporter of PDOIS wants any information to continue their mission to enlighten others, they could contact me through the following email address: suwaiboutouray@yahoo.com. If I don’t have the information I will search for it and deliver it accordingly."

PDOIS’ Desk Officer


Thanks Suwaibou for the offer. I am a sympathizer and supporter of PDOIS.

Contrary to what others may believe, and would even accuse us of being program fanatics, indoctrinated ideologues or people who just cannot think for themselves, the fact of the matter is that PDOIS epitomizes an idea that we find very attractive. And we find the idea attractive not only because of its conceptual development, but also because it has a vision and a mission.



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