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toubab1020
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 Posted - 25 Jun 2012 : 19:18:10
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The UK elections are not scheduled for some time,but there are those who think that this topic will win them votes and are taking advantage of floating ideas before the serious campaigning begins in earnest, read Cameron's speech backing workers and his thoughts on the perceived "benefits culture" that has become inbred in some people living in the UK.
http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/welfare-speech/
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kisley
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Jun 2012 : 22:00:05
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ahh the usual "undeserving poor" rhetoric.
As we all know unemployment is a choice and poverty is a life style.
Ever had to choose between heat and food, Dave?
Thought not.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 26 Jun 2012 : 22:43:02
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Which did Dave choose ? 
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Originally posted by kisley
ahh the usual "undeserving poor" rhetoric.
As we all know unemployment is a choice and poverty is a life style.
Ever had to choose between heat and food, Dave?
Thought not.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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sab
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Jul 2012 : 15:00:08
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I am sure this new immigration law that applies from Monday 9th July 2012 will eventually be decided by the European Court of Human Rights.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/news-and-updates/?area=Residency
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The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary) |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 06 Jul 2012 : 18:36:32
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I have no doubt that you are right Sab BUT as with all courts they take a great deal of time to do anything and whatever the EU court decides bear in mind that anything that gets before it has to have exhausted all the legal avenues within the EU country that the request comes from,so could be a very long time indeed,and those that are affected will have a very long wait,with loads and loads of money made by the lawyers out of the legal stuff.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Jul 2012 : 00:09:56
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Marriage is now the only guarantee for most Non EU and EEA Nationals to get through immigration and the system is extensively abused. Why should Foreign nationals automatically receive state benefits when they haven't contributed into the system. Also if the rule was to really make a difference then the UK government should only give definite leave to remain for spouses after 5 year if they entered the country on a Spousal Visa. Safeguards need to be put into place for UK Citizen who are often victims of deception for their Spouses to gain entry into the UK. In that time The non UK citizen should have no recourse to public Funds. But should be able to work and pay into the system before they can draw anything out. Also they should also extend British Citizenship after a 10 year stay in the country. That would give the authorities enough time to weed out bogus marriages, and deport the Spouse if the marriage breaks down. After all that was the justification for them to enter. If they are divorced in that time then they should be deported.
In addition to that another leaphole is homosexual discrimination many people pretend to be Homosexual fleeing persecution to get into the country. Deseparate people will try any angle to get what they want. The question is why should other people have to pay for it. The system has been abused, so it isn't really any wonder the UK Authorities are clamping down on it. Immigration also blatantly overlook the fact that people of all Nationalities go on holiday or Business trips etc. If they have the means to visit the UK and are genuinely staying the country up to six. Then they shouldn't be restricted access to the UK not all migrants want stay there.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 12 Jul 2012 : 00:24:33
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Is that really you Sister O ? I am confused now,how can one argue against such a clear and common sense posting.?
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Jul 2012 : 01:07:00
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Hi Toubab affirmative it's me. How are you doing Toubab?
I think UK immigration should be more imaginative by extending the time limit on leave to remain and citizenship. With a 10 year gap. The numbers of people returning home would increase and act as a deterrent for others to follow steaming the tide of illegal migration. That is a double edge sword on both side of the borders. In line with this fair trade needs to promoted encouraging more Migrants to stay at home to be more productive, eventually things will level out themselves. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 12 Jul 2012 : 02:21:14
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OK it is you !  . Who can blame people from other lands coming to the UK (that's where we are talking about in this topic) where they will have a better chance of living their lives and the lives of their families to its utmost potential than in the country where they were born ?
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Edited by - toubab1020 on 12 Jul 2012 02:21:49 |
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