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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Jun 2006 :  11:03:36  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
Dalton

As for the particular case of Samba Bah you've cited Dalton. I'm not familar with it. So I can't comment on it.

Let's be real we've debated on the need for proper Journalistic training in Gambia on several occasions before especially about quality journalism, and I am on the record straight after 2001 elections on condemning the media commission bill, and it's implications.

Without the opposition doing their jobs in the National Assembly it is futile playing the blame game when the horse has already bolted. Using Britain as an example if the Conservative party decided to throw a tantrum and decided not to take seats in the House Of Commons after the 2005 elections would you expect the Labour party to do their job for them? Would it be right for the Daily Mail to act as a substitute for the House of Commons under the disguise of a regular newspaper?

This is utterly ridiculous. Let's face it the opposition decided its strategy was to play the blame game by not taking an responsibility for representing its electorate therefore the APRC was able to pass the majority of its Bills without any ammendments or defeats. This is political heaven for any political party in the world.

Darboe's decisions has had lasting and far reaching ramifications up until now 5 years later with only 5 months left to go. The opposition is struggling to get their act together let alone having a realistic chance of winning the next elections. NADD has flopped , and it's left to people like Dalton to spin the illusion via the internet that they hold the key to Gambia's bright future. Well only time will tell if Gambians will have enough faith in their policies to elect them as the next government but it's going to take a miracle for that to happen.

The only realistic hope for NADD at this juncture is to concentrate on gaining seats because they will be in the political wilderness for sometime to come. Do the Gambian people really have any faith in voting for Darboe after he cut and run on them to place their future in his hands. No wonder people are looking back on PPP days with nostalga. But even Jawara when he used to take Jammeh to the golf course used to place his hat on Jammeh's head what does that tell you?

As for FJC no wonder a lot of Gambian men loathe her for recommending that Gambian men should share their property with their ex wives as part of a divorce settlement. Wow, I can see the nails being spat out of thousands of mouths - radical eh. Maybe in the next twenty years what do you reckon?With a new generation of Gambian women in politics maybe they should look for inspiration in Holy Qu'ran I hear its radical for some women rights.

Now back to you Dalton I can hear screaming to get through !!

Peace
Sister Omega

Edited by - Sister Omega on 26 Jun 2006 11:05:04
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 26 Jun 2006 :  11:29:58  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by somita

Dalton I beg to disagree on OJ issue. While its good news to see the OJ back on the political platform with a reformed agender, one that i strongly support today it is equally not hard to see the skeptisism on the man. He was part of a system that denied Gambians their fundamental rights to basic knowledge and health for 30 odd years while the system's top brass and their families lived like kings and queens largly at the expense of the tax payers.

May i say there is nothing like innocent by-standers, OJ cannot be innocents on the wrongs of PPP, if anything he was part of PPP's propaganda and thinking machine and therefore is guilty of the small and big wrongs of PPP. I was young but I know he wans't a small fish, infact he was the top ranks.

I have to say am very worried on the precedence here, in principle you are saying that Yankuba Touray is innocent of all the wrongs of APRC even though he is fully informed and is fully aware. If OJ comes out as he did or is doing to appologise to Gambians, of course that is left to individuals to forgive or forget but rebranding him as innocent by-standers is like adding salt to injury. I only hope that this is not the begining of a PR excersice, because if it is, it will surely back fire.

No one is advocating that that PPP sat on comfortable chairs in Quandrangle and state hourse and did nothing for 30 years, surely not on this forum, however history has shown that they got the priorities wrong. Evidence show that they probably failed on every measureable stop on the way, health, education, social justice, Agriculture, you name it, none of these faculties have a good footing up to date.

Some suggesting that he did alot in sports, sports? I'm deeply surprise about OJ record on sports. Folks, i dont think we ever won gold in olympics or any other sports since independance not even commonwealth ..... the best we get was silver, sports facilities outsides the Kombos are virtually non-exisitence ....where is the contribution to sports! Is this a joke?

I think over the past years OJ has reformed and is well armed with both experience and hind-sight, therefore will be a great tool to any goverment and indeed will benefit Gambians at alarge. On the flip side of the coin, he was part of dark history but has reformed and we all hope he will stay reformed and will go on contribute to a better Gambia.

Never deny history, instead print it in bold letters only then we shall all gallop farward.



Somita am impressed with these arguments but like to comment that politics appear to be a very flexible subject based on individual perception the state, development, things that went wrong and certain underlying issues. Dr. Saja Taal has been a dynamic "Kent street vous" pioneer who ever stand for justice and a fredom fighter. He served various positions under the PPP era especially as Permanent Secretary Under Ministry of Education. You knew what the scholarship board represented during PPP days. Had experienced it when my application for a UNESCO (undergraduate) scholarship was submitted hand to hand; me and Dr.Saja Taal, who gave some kind words and assurance that there are prospects for me but without any further information till now. Later he joined the APRC and presently the MD or GM for The Observer newspaper. However what best described Dr, Saja Taal's political career or profile, I don't know?

Don't you think that O.J's political comeback is valid to defend PPP era (to some extent) and challenge Jammeh and the APRC's misrule as a citizen; without any apologies necessary as the people should exercise their democratic rights and censor them through the ballot box?

Edited by - kobo on 26 Jun 2006 12:07:18
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 26 Jun 2006 :  17:51:34  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dembish

interesting guys, but onething Gambians seems to be taken away by jammehs rapids infrasturals changes and there by assuming that ppp did nothing, I think they have done something and deserved their due nomatter what.the pace was not that good but economically Gambians were living a better life in comparison to Aprc era.Even now the Aprc has not even build half of the number of health centres the PPP built across the country.yes that is politic, once you are no longer in office all your achivements are trashed in the bin, who evercomes tomorrow will come with another method different from jammehs. But for now let give the devil its due.I just wonder who among us have seen the Gambia at the time the british handed it over to jawara,then was the the hardest time but thanks to ppp jammeh was even able to use a school bus to go to a high school on a motorable highway.



He also had free scolarship to Gambia High School. Shorlarship to attend military training in the U.S. etc and i believe to Turkey also.
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 26 Jun 2006 :  18:33:06  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dalton1

quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

By the way, nice weekend to all !



AAN NON, ACHU DEH. DUM KO CHOSAN HALDA. WANA MAIBEH TAN YURRMINI (FULANI)



direct translation "you, stop it. You spoke typical culture. Sympathy is not only for the dead.", Kondorong.

Pular mah nah fehwih-very fluent in pular. Now, you vindicated kobo.

foh watikoteng, kata m'ri kunkohto-fatakoiyoo, foh namoo yeh joh dorong.
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I cant agree more. I just developed interest in anything in my environment. Learnt to speak many local languages and travelled the country and sat by the amber logs during harmattan with granny and listening to culture. Dalton1 you nearly made me cry when you talked about sitting by the fire. That was another informal school that we dont see these days. Now even in the villages, people are wrapped in blankest and sweaters of Tupac and Fifty Cents. The sense of community that fire brought into the Gambia society is fading.

Fire helped keep bonds together, roating corn, roasting pigeons, story telling time, etc.

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Dalton1



3485 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2006 :  05:13:37  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
Kondorong,

I understood your context, which is why i said you vindicated Kobo-"dinding meng kah kebba kumoo foh", and noted your fluency in pularr. Those are good times, good schools for those that know what it means. That's the school i attended way before i went to english school and dara. I thank God, my parents, and loved ones for all the love and support i had and continue to have in life.

"Fi-amanin-la", Biraago.

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Dalton1



3485 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2006 :  05:27:08  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Sister Omega

Dalton

As for the particular case of Samba Bah you've cited Dalton. I'm not familar with it. So I can't comment on it.

Let's be real we've debated on the need for proper Journalistic training in Gambia on several occasions before especially about quality journalism, and I am on the record straight after 2001 elections on condemning the media commission bill, and it's implications.

Without the opposition doing their jobs in the National Assembly it is futile playing the blame game when the horse has already bolted. Using Britain as an example if the Conservative party decided to throw a tantrum and decided not to take seats in the House Of Commons after the 2005 elections would you expect the Labour party to do their job for them? Would it be right for the Daily Mail to act as a substitute for the House of Commons under the disguise of a regular newspaper?

This is utterly ridiculous. Let's face it the opposition decided its strategy was to play the blame game by not taking an responsibility for representing its electorate therefore the APRC was able to pass the majority of its Bills without any ammendments or defeats. This is political heaven for any political party in the world.

Darboe's decisions has had lasting and far reaching ramifications up until now 5 years later with only 5 months left to go. The opposition is struggling to get their act together let alone having a realistic chance of winning the next elections. NADD has flopped , and it's left to people like Dalton to spin the illusion via the internet that they hold the key to Gambia's bright future. Well only time will tell if Gambians will have enough faith in their policies to elect them as the next government but it's going to take a miracle for that to happen.

The only realistic hope for NADD at this juncture is to concentrate on gaining seats because they will be in the political wilderness for sometime to come. Do the Gambian people really have any faith in voting for Darboe after he cut and run on them to place their future in his hands. No wonder people are looking back on PPP days with nostalga. But even Jawara when he used to take Jammeh to the golf course used to place his hat on Jammeh's head what does that tell you?

As for FJC no wonder a lot of Gambian men loathe her for recommending that Gambian men should share their property with their ex wives as part of a divorce settlement. Wow, I can see the nails being spat out of thousands of mouths - radical eh. Maybe in the next twenty years what do you reckon?With a new generation of Gambian women in politics maybe they should look for inspiration in Holy Qu'ran I hear its radical for some women rights.

Now back to you Dalton I can hear screaming to get through !!




Omega, there is a lot to agree on the failures of the opposition, but you demonstrated here to be a sympathiser to FJC, and the entire loony administration, even though you know with certainty what is happening. I am sure you been following events way before some us entered forums, but your stance looks weird. Whenever i pray, i ask God to protect me and all from the 'fitnas & evils" of these monsters you seem to believe in so much. I also ask God to distant me from such positions of leadership, and wish at once that God can ever root me in loving Gambians and the entire world; also a proud gainako(sheperd). I will see you open your mouth again when those long bearded fellows hit london ? Sorry ! Catch you later on these debates ! Always, please condemn terror first, and make critisism-that's lacken in your spirit here.

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2006 :  09:13:56  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
Dalton you advocate freedom of expression but can't tolerate it isn't it good for one to practice what they preach?

Peace

Sister Omega

Peace
Sister Omega

Edited by - Sister Omega on 27 Jun 2006 09:14:41
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