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toubab1020
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 Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 01:00:55
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"and remember not to give the Porter more than a £1 coin." not a bad tip in those days D60 for a bag !
"Gambia's Tourism Product gives visitors greater choice and the variety than the limited choices they once had."
Oh really ? tourists are no longer ripped off now?
sugar rice and other food affordable for average Gambians ?
"By the way Guys you do realize that we have entered the second decade of the 21st Century? It just seems that some of you still stuck firmly in the 20th Century I've got news for that's been resigned to the history books."
Sister O you get real, if you remember those days were they not MUCH better in every country in the world.?
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Nyarikangbanna
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Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 09:22:34
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Nyari
Palm Grove Hotel was not fit for purpose and therefore Tourists voted with their feet business dried up. So what are you advocating to leave it as a monument forever. Its now turned into an Army Barracks. Now what is it you don't understand?
Anyway strategically and for Town and Planning purposes to have an Army Barracks in close proximity to a prison for one prisoners will think twice about escaping or is that your objection?
That right, sis. Palm grove was not fit for purpose after the government laid hand on it. When I started GOING TO High School in Banjul in the early 1990s that was simply not the case. I used to see a colone of buses ferrying tourist in and out of that hotel. In fact, it was one of the main hotels in the country then.
And toubab, you are right; in the 1980s, palm grove together with the atlantic hotel, sunwing, wandner beach and BB hotel were the only vibrant hotels in the gambia and the beacon of tourism in the country. Senegambia joined later and KAIRABA WAS JUST RECENTLY BUILD.
If you don't know, ask; don't lie or fabricate stories. My Jamaican friend is not like you. She is very honest and intelligent, sister o. |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 09:49:00
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Toubab, maybe an ex employee can enlighten us more about the circumstance leading to the hotels decline.
You don't need any ex employee to explain, i can. Here is what happened;
Palm grove was owned by ss ceesay. In the early 1990s Mr.Ceesay entered into a protracted legal battle with the ASSET MANAGEMENT AND RECOVERIES Corporation. In 1993, the high court in banjul ordered for the seizure of palm grove to liquidate mr. ceesay's debt. Mr. ceesay appealed against the judgement and successfully applied for a stay of execution. This was how things stood until 1994 when the coup happened. The jammeh govt then decided they were not going to give due regard to the court proceedings particularly the stay of execution granted in Mr. ceesay's favour and went on to seize the hotel extra-judicially. Mr. Ceesay was then publicly threatened with dire consequences should he resort to legal action to recover the hotel. He was left heart broken and died of heart attack 10yrs later.
The govt on the other hand appointed incompetent Jammeh flunkies to run the hotel but alas the end result was dilapidation ! dilapidation! and now a military barrack. This was how this iconic landmark hotel crumbled down. The story of palm grove hotel for you, toubab.
Sis o is becoming notorious for being both clueless and untruthful.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 13:17:17
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Nyarikangbanna, Thanks for clarifying the situation,but being a politician yourself,OK involved in politics if you like that better ! , I think that it was a trifle unfair to write about sister O :" Sis o is becoming notorious for being both clueless and untruthful." if she bothers to respond,she may well have written: I was not being clueless or untruthful that is how I see the situation : and if pressed strongly : I may perhaps have been a little economical with the information that I wrote.  OR sorry, forgot,don't answer the question at all, ignore it and talk about something else blaming the person who asked the question in the first place.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 13:23:20
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Nyari I am not arguing with you about your reality and obviously Palm Grove Hotel has a sentimental value to you.
However its usage has changed get over it as I don't think it will be making a u-turn anytime soon. Please try and console yourself to the fact in your childhood memories Palm Grove Hotel will always be there for you. Get a grip man. Tottenham was burn down the other day and I've got some memories there but I can't resurrect the PC World now can I? Or the buses in Reading used to drive to the Town centre but now its pedestrianized. Or the Bull ring as it was when I was a child no longer exists. Is going to make me extend into a hizzy fit or a complete melt down. Cha get a grip. Hasn't life taught you anything yet that the only constant is change. Quite frankly your living in cloud cockoo land if you think it will always stay the same.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 17:30:34
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Hi Toubab you can talk this topic went on a tangent in regarding the building and not the unfortunate couple whose lives ended in tragic moment of deceit rage and jealousy.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 23:46:12
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Yes,off topic, sorry,everyone has the utmost sympathy for the families of those
"whose lives ended in tragic moment of deceit rage and jealousy." as you rightly say.But was it I who started going off topic Sister O ? Remember was it not you who wrote much earlier:
" Karamba in answer to your question. Maybe the fall of tourism due to the economic downturn is a reason for the change of usage for the former Palm Grove Hotel into a new military establishment."
The topic has been muddied by people going off topic (me included) .
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Sep 2011 : 02:02:53
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| Toubab1o2o, two issues came up under this thread. Changing of hotel to army barracks is a topical issue. Killing by shooting in a military barracks is another topical issue. Both happened to fuse up in this one episode. |
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kobo
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toubab1020
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Posted - 08 Sep 2011 : 13:10:44
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Yes quite, but to a certain extent I do think that the deaths of two people should have been discussed seperately,but as you rightly observe the venue of the tragic event was in fact a military barracks that used to be a good hotel.
Most of this story has been made clear, the reasons for the shooting of 2 people and the reasons for the demise of what was a good hotel and how that came about,I cannot see any benefit of discussing this topic further,unless its a matter of politics !,but what has been done has been done.
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Originally posted by Karamba
Toubab1o2o, two issues came up under this thread. Changing of hotel to army barracks is a topical issue. Killing by shooting in a military barracks is another topical issue. Both happened to fuse up in this one episode.
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Sep 2011 : 15:46:12
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palm grove having a sentimental value to me? you see, this is what i was saying about; you are stuffed with nothing but fabrications. I am dissapointed with you, sis o.
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kobo
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Scorpiorain
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Posted - 19 Sep 2011 : 00:19:13
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
....and not the unfortunate couple whose lives ended in tragic moment of deceit rage and jealousy.
Are you SURE that's how they died Sister O? I mean REALLY SURE??
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toubab1020
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Posted - 19 Sep 2011 : 10:58:43
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Most of us who read Bantaba in cyberspace are able only to comment (if you want to that is ) on articles that are published in newspapers and on the internet in blogs etc, it is likely that sometimes these reports may only contain facts that are common knowledge,there maybe other facts that are unknown and these facts will come to light at a later date.
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