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kajaw
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 Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 23:36:00
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| Finally, i would again urge my friend to read my statements about Badibu. I never said people were discriminated against because they were from badibu. I said clearely that people were discriminated against because they happened to belong to the oposition. My refrensce to badibu is simply the fact that i was stating my experience and what i am farmilar with. The same thing might have been happening in other regions but i cannot say it with the dergee of credibility that i can say it for the region i am most farmilar with. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 23:57:53
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Hey Kejaw
You are a real fighter and a very honest debater. I like the way you approach issues. You are certainly a mature and seasoned individual. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 23:58:45
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Originally posted by njucks
kobo you were shot at??
what happened to the person who tried to kill you when it was all over?
He was born in the city, an active sportman, a soccer star and played for Gambia XI has been in America and back in town. Many would knew him now without disclosing his name. I was saved by one of brothers who saw him aiming and releasing the trigger and he sprung by throwing his body to push him away. The bullet went off during midnight hour whist people were asleep bro. Njucks please don't read between the lines as a "Ndongo". Laugh! |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2006 : 00:32:20
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No wonder Kobo chose Che. You are luky man or woman.(It does not matter what you are). 1981 was a serious mistake in our history. I even had to look up the word coup. Some people i asked had never heard of the word and so people were trying to find the meaning.
Gambia was very innocent in 1981. Gone are those innocent days. Check the papers and you will be amazed about the number of stabbings and fights leading to death. Whenever a death occured, it was talked about for years as though it just happened. Now, you cannot keep pace with the count. |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2006 : 01:04:10
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Hi brother kakaw,
Please don't cry...(laughs)
Do you remember when you came to us ,you sold to us a basin,the cover,and its lid?
You Badibunkas are alway on to cash.I asked about your brother because when you said you are from Badibu,I knew what to say to make me enter into you ..(Laugh)I would have commented differently if it had been another Gambian from somewhere else different from Badibu.But for a Badibunka,this was the only way I could have responded.Because all Badibunkas thinks true Gambians are from Suu.Believe me kajaw,while I definately while awaiting your reply,I was smilling to myself thinking what reply you would come up with.Now I have proven myself right,I would say I have given you ten/nought(laughs)...Badibu,Badibu, Badibu.Onething I am proud of Badibunkas for is they are always there for each other.And no joke most of you are really hard working .Thats a fact.But as your father(Which I am),I think I could give you a little bit of hot pepper.But am really sorry it was so hot and I didn't mean to burn your mouth...(more laughs)
Now to the real issue!
Sir Dawda'Government was corrupt no doubt about that.We agreed on that.
What I was saying,was in 1981 coup,I was at the Fajara Deport(I came from the provences to see my brother who was then a field force).I saw many things with my own eyes.Brother I saw people stripped naked wearing nothing even their underpants were removed.And I saw people lined up and shot at close blank range.Oh my God kajaw I don't want to remind myself of what happened on that day.It was horrible.If kukoi had planned correctly,maybe not all those things would have happened.But belief me there was disagreement between the ranks and they starting executing one another.Tambajang went to the central bank when he knew that he was not been chosen to lead,he betrayed his comrades,Penku George fooled Kukoi and took many men to the Nyambai forest and killed them My cousin was a driver who drove many dead bodies and latter got himself killed when he took a gun and joined the rebels.(Everyday when he comes home,he meets my brother to give him accounts of what had happened.Despite I was young,I was terified for some of those killed I knew or atleast seen them b4 on the Deport.I saw Mustapha Danso with my own eyes and also Sarjo sanyang,James Mendy,Duty Sanyang,Aphai Sonko.All these men came to the Deport wearing red round their head.
If the senegalise had not come,We would have said a different story.Many people had gone mad just taking gun and going to people's compounds they hate or had previous problems with and killing them in cold blood infront of their families.Don't you think we would have been worse than Dafor,Rwanda or Somalia?
I really shared you view that the senegalise were brutal and should face a tribunal but who was going to take them to such a tribunal?Jawara they saved?No way.Would prime minister Al Maliki take the US soldier who went to Hadifa to kill civilians before a court?
The corruption of African leaders cannot be over emphasised.They are corruption it self.The truth is we expected the Boys to be atleast different.But God know what went wrong.I cannot talk about them much it hurts my heart.
Brother Kajaw(Mr.Badibu),You are done.No heart feelings.
Peace
Mankajang Janyanfara |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2006 : 01:26:36
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I was a village boy then. I could only remember a few slogans like LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION. LONG LIVE THE SUPREME REVOLUTIONARY COUNCIL. These were very big sentences then and i kept repeating it to my self. I had no idea which direction Banjul was.
My headmaster was the symbol of power as far as i was concerned. |
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2006 : 01:52:50
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| What atrocities did they commit? You still cannot spell brother even after Ameri/Asia University.You do not have a clue what the **** was going on Kajaw .Quit making these sorry ass assertions and expect to be applauded for such ridiculous bull****.If you lived with your Family in banjul and can't say if their sorry asses were corrupt or not ,please explain to me how the **** can you for sure sit here and tell us yeah OJ was corrupt and should not be part of NADD.Where is your evidence you piece of ****. Your brother, Uncle and the rest of your family were a bunch of thieves,you don't have to try to explain to me how your brother knew Modou musa Njie was not paying taxes at the Port or how your brother could not sustain himself with his little salary from customs, yet he lived good and took care of your sorry ass and the rest of the migrating birds that left baddibu for the big city life since "UNCLE THIEF" is now at ports.Didn't your punk ass tell me that your family was part of the top Echelons of the Jawara regime 4 years ago. I personally think talking **** online makes your dick hard.You dont have a clue what democracy is or what's morally and ethically right to say.You are just another half baked baddibunka probably having intimate relations with your dear cows.My crazy ass cousin just told me that "Samba kati nak" "Nduka Katy Nakla" may be you should be telling us about cows and not humans ****.I was never gone punk............peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2006 : 01:55:30
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| What atrocities did they commit? You still cannot spell brother even after Ameri/Asia University.You do not have a clue what the **** was going on Kajaw .Quit making these sorry ass assertions and expect to be applauded for such ridiculous bull****.If you lived with your Family in banjul and can't say if their sorry asses were corrupt or not ,please explain to me how the **** can you for sure sit here and tell us yeah OJ was corrupt and should not be part of NADD.Where is your evidence you piece of ****. Your brother, Uncle and the rest of your family were a bunch of thieves,you don't have to try to explain to me how your brother knew Modou musa Njie was not paying taxes at the Port or how your brother could not sustain himself with his little salary from customs, yet he lived good and took care of your sorry ass and the rest of the migrating birds that left baddibu for the big city life since "UNCLE THIEF" is now at ports.Didn't your punk ass tell me that your family was part of the top Echelons of the Jawara regime 4 years ago. I personally think talking **** online makes your dick hard.You dont have a clue what democracy is or what's morally and ethically right to say.You are just another half baked baddibunka probably having intimate relations with your dear cows.My crazy ass cousin just told me that "Samba kati nak" "Nduka Katy Nakla" may be you should be telling us about cows and not humans ****.I was never gone punk............peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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kaanibaa
United Kingdom
1169 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2006 : 02:05:53
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| Tambajang AKA IJK was a hero bro he never betrayed any one his mum and brother were abucted by those dirty rebels and after the event some people smeared his name and it did not stick . I know it for a fact . This is not hearsay please and i am sure some one else would affirm this statement,1981 coup detat was so crazy that most people would depend on hearsay to narrate what really happened . If ask some they will tell you that they were hiding under their beds or in the storerooms out of sheer fear and it was justifiable to be so afraid. It was a known fact that the loyalists were based at the police headquarters close to central bank; whereas the rebels over ran the depot consequently some officers got either; caught up in the web or joined the putch. The late Kikala baldeh and sgt Njie were ruthlessly massacred and the count goes on. Again i maintain that talking about 1981 canot be avoided but could we truthfully report facts and avoid hearsay which is not reliable or at best diluted with tit bits of information which were not properly investigated. It is not misguided for me to expose the dirtiness of 1981 and i cannot accept that Jawara should have left the putchist to continue with their rampage as it were. If his administration was unlawful, that was unfortunate and not my opinion any way, but the manner in which the putchist came in was violent and should be condemned as such. futher more it is not correct to say that Jawara was responsible for the deaths of all those who lost their lifes in 1981; that to me would excusing the rebels action which actually caused the state to react in defence of our national souvereignity. |
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njucks
Gambia
1131 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2006 : 13:42:38
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thanks kobo
it seems like it was all about settling scores.but you have not really answered my question as to what happened to him afterwards. if you think its too sensitive its ok. thanks
i'm very interested in the '81 events. i have always tried to read about it but there is little information about it. back home people dont like to talk much about it in detail. i will always remember the grave between the muslim/christian cemetries.infact i would like to have an estimate (in numbers) about how many people died. 100,300,500,1000,2000???
i remember reading a bit about the famous british SAS who were sent in to secure the first family and properties in Fajara etc. Kons called them the Taxi drivers and i aked him why before.
but its a living history and those who experienced it should talk about it so we know more about it.
i think Kukoi means something that is clear and thats what we should be about 1981. |
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2006 : 18:22:03
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| Kons is damn right calling them the TAXI DRIVERS.My dad's driver a man who could barely comb his hair was named as a Minister.It was a bunch of *****s and half baked disgruntled politicians, the likes of kukoi who could not secure a single vote from even a child.I heard when he stood as a candidate he had 100 votes,This was prior to the coup.So am guessing it was his uncle,Aunty,Nephew Nieces Grandfather ,Grandmother and a few fools who decided he was their MAN............peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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njucks
Gambia
1131 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2006 : 22:03:14
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[quote]Originally posted by Moe
Kons is damn right calling them the TAXI DRIVERS.My dad's driver a man who could barely comb his hair was named as a Minister.
c'on MOE we trying to be serious here |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2006 : 23:51:45
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Hay hay Brother moe,
What type of person are you?How can you use such abusive languages against a fellow country man?
If you lived with your Family in banjul and can't say if their sorry asses were corrupt or not ,please explain to me how the **** can you for sure sit here and tell us yeah OJ was corrupt and should not be part of NADD.Where is your evidence you piece of ****. Your brother, Uncle and the rest of your family were a bunch of thieves,you don't have to try to explain to me how your brother knew Modou musa Njie was not paying taxes at the Port or how your brother could not sustain himself with his little salary from customs, yet he lived good and took care of your sorry ass and the rest of the migrating birds that left baddibu for the big city life since "UNCLE THIEF" is now at ports.
Infact who are you?Where do you come from?Not the Gambia of cause!We don't behave like that.No way...
Gambia belongs to all and people have every right to express their opinion about public servants.
My brother OJ,Jawara were public servants and as they took up politics,they expect to be criticised.
Much more Kajaw is not English and whether his language is perfect or not is irrelivant as he can surely express himself in his mother longue very well.I am not speaking for kajaw but I just felt that as concious person,however angry one might be with someboody's comment,you can counter attack with your eloquence as your English seems better than Peter Sellers.However for us "Kaw Kaws," we cannot use hyper'bolical taminologies,we simply will try to use tenor.
But faul or insulting languages are things of the past.Gentlemen don't behave like that fellow country man come on behave your self.
....My dad's driver a man who could barely comb his hair was named as a minister.
You might be lucky to come from a rich family but but but be fair to your self,there is no diamond mine in the Gambia is there any? Those in glass houses do not throw stones.
As for me my dad was toiling the soil very hard till you can see the marks on his hands.No wonder some used to call him "timpoo".We never had a motocycle.Just a simple donkey...very hard working animal who gave us a lot of nuts.But alas OJ then Minister of Agriculture could not buy our nuts.
Any citizen of the Gambia can hold a ministerial post irrespective of whether he is PhD or Primary school drop out.What we need is a compitent minister who would deliver the good as expected of a patriotic citizen.So your above statement is less relivant(My opinion)
Alhagie Momodou Musa Njie was the former president's father in-law and therefore not free from criticism as his daughter could use her influence as then First lady to manage laudable contracts for big Dady,much more his son (Late Alh.Ousainou Njie (R.I.p ))was the chief at the Chamber of Commerce and many members of the Njie Family.I would not go into an arguement with you as I know what I am talking about.Though I hate talking about people who are already resting in peace(Dead),I only want to focast your attention to certain facts.
If you hate people talking about your family or people close to you Moe, then please advise them to abstain from politics or else you will die angry.
For OJ we knew one another very well and if you show him my this posting,he may well tell you who I am.No joke I can stand infront of him and say to him all ministers in the then PPP were corrupt in one way or the other.And they are responsible for our failures today.OJ did tried but he is not at all corruption free.
My brother truth is hot and you need to learn to be tollerant as some close to you were incharge of what belongs to us all and they must face people's opinion whether infor or against.
Enough of that please lets be atleast mature and be respectful to one another.Despite it is Bantaba and every one can write what you like but let it be done with due respect for one another.
We all want the same thing.....for our dear Gambia to be better managed through democracy and the rule of law.
Thank you
peace
Mankajang Janyanfara |
Edited by - Janyanfara on 18 Jun 2006 00:26:44 |
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2006 : 00:18:16
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| "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" brother.Oj is not responsible for buying your nutts these are questions that should be directed to the the ******* responsible at the time.The same way your dad toiled the land OJ was working his ass off too for the benefit of Gambia ,Don't give me that Farmer Exchuse,complaining about bull**** and working under the sun to make exchuses for certain peoples failures.If oj could not buy the peanuts why the hell was it not made into peanut butter or groundnut cake and sold within Gambian borders.I have seen how farmers dwell ,give them one good harvest and they will retire with a twelve year old girl and forget about their MBaring muso and further advacing the agriculture ,there is not a good harvest that goes by and they don't add a second wife.I never once told your ass that i don't expect OJ to be scruternized here or any one at that yet if punks are hell bent on character assasination and just sheer stupidity and jealousy ,well they have a problem with me.Yes i am a priviledged ***** and i will not hestitate to burst your bubble too.By the way i am the one and only MOE............peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2006 : 00:33:58
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Would you tell what you are telling me right now to OJ?
Any way say what ever you want to say,say it.I gain nothing in an unfruitless arguement.That will not benefit my country.
Look at your back!"The niddle that pieeced the eye ,the eye can never see that."
Peace |
Edited by - Janyanfara on 18 Jun 2006 00:36:45 |
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