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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 13 Jan 2014 :  14:06:34  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
I want to share the following from FIQH us-SUNNAH (Fiqh and Sunnah) on Funerals and Dhikr by As-Sayyid Sabiq, with those of you who might be interested.


Visiting Graves

Visiting graves is desirable for men. 'Abdallah ibn Buraidah reported from his father that the Prophet, peace be upon him, said: "I had forbidden you to visit graves, but now you may visit them. It will remind you of the Hereafter." They were prohibited from visiting the graves because of their proximity to the jahiliyyah (Days of Ignorance) when they used incorrect and obscene language. After they had fully entered the fold of Islam, became well pleased with it, and had fully accepted its laws, the Prophet, peace be upon him, permitted them to visit graves.

Abu Hurairah reported: "The Prophet, peace be upon him, visited his mother's grave and cried, and everyone there cried with him. Then the Prophet, peace be upon him, said: "I sought my Lord's permission to seek forgiveness for her, but He did not permit me. I then sought permission to visit her grave and He permitted me to do this. You should visit graves, because they will remind you of the reality of death."

Since the purpose of visiting graves is admonition and remembrance of death, it is permissible to visit the graves of disbelievers. Weeping when passing by the graves of the wrongdoers who were seized and punished by Allah for their evil deeds, and to express one's humility and one's need for forgiveness of Allah is desirable. This is obvious from a hadith, reported by Bukhari on the authority of Ibn 'Umar, that the Prophet, peace be upon him, said to his Companions, when they passed through AI-Hijr, the dwellings of the people of Thamud, "Do not go without weeping to the places of burial of those who are undergoing torment. But if you cannot weep, then do not enter these places lest what befell them should befall you."

Etiquette of Visiting Graves
Whoever pays a visit to a grave should face the deceased, greet him, and supplicate for him. On this subject we find the following:
Buraidah reported: "The Prophet, peace he upon him, taught us that when we visited graves we should say, 'Peace be upon you, O believing men and women, O dwellers of this place. Certainly, Allah willing, we will join you. You have preceded us and we are to follow you. We supplicate to Allah to grant us and you security'." Ibn 'Abbas reported: "Once the Prophet, peace be upon him, passed by graves in Madinah. He turned his face toward them saying: 'Peace be upon you, O dwellers of these graves. May Allah forgive us and you. You have preceded us, and we are following your trail'."

'Aishah said: "Every time it was my turn to be with the Prophet, peace be upon him, toward the end of the night, he would go out to the cemetery of albaqi' and would say, 'Peace be upon you, O abode of believers. What you were promised will come to pass tomorrow at a fixed time. We shall, Allah willing, soon join you. O Allah! Grant forgiveness to the people who are buried in al-Baqi' al-Gharqad'."

'Aishah also reported: "I asked: 'What should I say when I pass by a graveyard, O Messenger of Allah'?' He replied, 'Say, "Peace be upon the believing men and women dwelling here. May Allah grant mercy to those who have preceded us and those who are to follow them. Certainly, Allah willing, we will join you”.

What some people do, like wiping hands over the graves and tombs, kissing them, and circumambulating around them are abominable innovations. Such things should not be done, for they are unlawful. These things are permissible, however, if performed in relation with the House of Allah, the Ka'abah, for Allah has so honoured it. The grave of the Prophet, peace be upon him, cannot be considered a similar case, nor the tomb of a saint. All good comes from adherence to his example whereas all evil flows from innovating new things in religion.

Ibn al-Qayyim said: "The Prophet, peace be upon him, visited the graves to supplicate for their inhabitants, and to seek mercy and forgiveness of Allah for them. Contrary to this, the pagans supplicated to the dead, swearing by them, asking them for their needs, and seeking their support and help. Such pagan practices are in conflict with the guidance of the Prophet, peace be upon him, and his teachings about the Oneness of Allah and about the manner of supplicating for Allah's mercy for the dead. The people who do such things are guilty of polytheism; they are indulging in sin, and bringing evil to the deceased. They may be divided into three categories: those who supplicate for the deceased, those who supplicate through the deceased, and the third who supplicate to the deceased. They think that making supplications by a grave is better than in a mosque. For anyone who looks to the guidance of the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, and his Companions, the distinction between the two cited positions is fairly obvious.”


A clear concience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone

toubab1020



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Posted - 13 Jan 2014 :  20:19:38  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Strange you should post this topic Momodou I recently visited the War Graves in Fajara.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 13 Jan 2014 :  21:47:50  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Coincidence or telepathy? I have been there but many years ago in the 70s.

Its Mawlud today also called Mawlidu n-nabiyyi, the observance of the birthday of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW). There will be recitations of the Quran this evening and talks about his life habits etc. It's also called "Gamo" celebrations in SeneGambia. Many people travel to Senegal to attend the event.

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kisley



United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Jan 2014 :  13:43:22  Show Profile Send kisley a Private Message
http://www.cwgc.org/find-a-cemetery/cemetery/2060207/Fajara%20War%20Cemetery

I didn't know of this cemetery, no tourist information ever given out about this site.

Next time I visit Gambia I will definitely visit, to pay my respects.
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toubab1020



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Posted - 15 Jan 2014 :  20:52:42  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
It really is a peaceful place and VERY well cared for,its almost a family business working there for the two staff,when the groundsman retires they give his son a nine month trial in 3 monthly modules which he must pass before moving on to the next one, if he passes all he gets the job permanently.










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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 15 Jan 2014 :  23:09:56  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Thanks Kisley, the CWGC link is useful.

A clear concience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 18 Jan 2014 :  08:04:29  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Toubab, thanks for the beautiful photos of Fajara War Cemetry. Among the the Gambian soldiers who died were both Muslims, Christians and others.

A clear concience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 18 Jan 2014 :  09:43:58  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
1.TOPIC IS UNDER WORLD RELIGIONS WHICH IS ABOUT FAITH AND SPIRITUAL JOURNEY, SO THIS QUOTE POSTED ABOVE ON MORAL TEACHINGS OF ISLAM FROM ONE OF BEST TEACHERS PROHET MUHAMMAD (SAW-MPUH) SHOULD BE NOTED
quote:
"'Aishah also reported: "I asked: 'What should I say when I pass by a graveyard, O Messenger of Allah'?' He replied, 'Say, "Peace be upon the believing men and women dwelling here. May Allah grant mercy to those who have preceded us and those who are to follow them. Certainly, Allah willing, we will join you”."


2. QURAN AND "HADITH" OR SAYINGS OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD ("SAW"-MPUH) IS ALL ABOUT "YA BANI ADAM" (HUMANS INDIVIDUALLY OR GENERALLY ADDRESSED AS CHILDREN OF ADAM & EVE) AND BENEFIT ONLY "AL-MU'MINUN" (THE BELIEVERS) NOT BLASPHEMERS, TRANSGRESSORS, INFIDELS, PAGANS NOR EVEN NON-BELIEVERS

3. MASJID TUCSON WITH A PAGE FOR ENGLISH BRIEF LITERAL TRANSLATION OF A QURAN CHAPTER Sura 23, The Believers (Al-Mu’minûn)

4. MORE ON Attributes Of Believers In The Qur'an

5. ISLAMIC PERSPECTIVES WITH A PAGE ON The Qur`an, the Believers and the non-Believers

6. MORE WITH WIKIPEDIA NOTES ON FOLLOWING TERMS;

Edited by - kobo on 18 Jan 2014 12:59:22
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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 18 Jan 2014 :  17:21:43  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
One thing certain for all living beings is death.

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toubab1020



9393 Posts

Posted - 19 Mar 2014 :  11:01:43  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
A point well made sad :

Snippet:
"At least 100,000 pensioners who died penniless and alone have been buried in paupers’ graves in the past five years, a charity revealed yesterday.

Soaring funeral prices and the breakdown of families mean about 21,000 pensioners die every year without the money for funeral bills and with no relatives willing or able to pay.

Their funerals are paid for by councils, many of which have admitted they inter the bodies in communal plots or cremate them to save costs."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2066991/Tragedy-100-000-buried-paupers-graves-past-years.html

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 19 Mar 2014 11:50:06
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Mar 2014 :  13:36:17  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Funerals are very expensive in the UK these days.
In Gambia I presume most people are buried as this is what is expected in Islam.
The same was the case in Christian faith, but now more people accept Cremation. We are running out of space and the cost of burial is much more expensive.
Hindu's in UK are usually cremated.

I find it odd that Muslim women aren't allowed at the grave side and don't attend the funeral service. Do they have any other rituals to say goodbye to their loved ones?

I wanted to go to visit someones grave, but was refused permission. Is that because I am a women or because I'm not Muslim? In UK it is a mark of respect to visit the grave of people who have passed away.
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 19 Mar 2014 :  19:53:35  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Momodou

One thing certain for all living beings is death.



Ashes to Ashes - God is one (for believers), Life, Death & Burial all the same for EVERYONE!

Cremation of a dead body

Burial of a dead body
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