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kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Jan 2012 :  05:12:21  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
"(JollofNews) - Gambian journalists working for the opposition Foroyaa Newspaper are threatening to go on an indefinite strike over poor working conditions.

According to reports reaching JollofNews, the reporters have already outlined a list of demands to the papers’ editors seeking the appointment of freelance reporters and payment of social security entitlements.

"If these above recommendations are not given due and urgent consideration by 15th January, 2012, we will embark on a sit-down strike," the disgruntled pen pushers said in a petition letter which was clandestinely obtained by JollofNews.

Another bone of contention is the request made by the reporters for one of the paper’s editor Halifa Sallah move to the National Alliance for Democracy and Development (NADD) office in order to create more rooms for reporters.

“Considering that the besieging of the office premises by politicians is of a great concern and we recommend that there be a clear separation of politics from journalism. Also, since the paper is the oldest in the country, we recommend that it comes on a daily basis," reads the petition.

Reports added that two meetings were held on 16th and 19th December 2011 between the disgruntle reporters and the editorial board of Foroyaa during which the editors promised to address some of the issues raised before the New Year.

When contacted for comments, Foroyaa’s managing editor, Sam Sarr declined to speak about the matter saying: “I don't think it is a matter of concern for you.”

Written by Abdoulie John"
SOURCE: JOLLOF ON-LINE NEWS

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Edited by - kobo on 15 Jan 2012 05:59:16

toubab1020



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Posted - 15 Jan 2012 :  13:07:43  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Quote from above posting:

“Considering that the besieging of the office premises by politicians is of a great concern and we recommend that there be a clear separation of politics from journalism."
End quote.

Here we go again,(if the "petition letter which was clandestinely obtained by JollofNews.) is accurate then the management of Foroyaa Newspaper need to do some serious thinking about the direction of the paper,questions like,What is a newspaper for?
disseminating accurate news to the population,or as a vehicle for putting over views of a group of politicians,whichever option is chosen that's their chosen route,however staff members and journalists MUST be considered fairly otherwise there appears to be a distinct possibility that there will be NO PAPER in the near future,put simply,without an injection of MONEY and a rethink the paper will cease to exist,probably to the pleasure of some politicians.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 15 Jan 2012 13:08:36
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toubab1020



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Posted - 16 Jan 2012 :  19:24:04  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Foroyaa Newspaper:

Editorial : Foroyaa vs JOLLOF NEWS Informer Journalism A threat to the Journalist Profession In the Gambia

Well,what do you know,almost a denial that there is any problem at all at Foroyaa Newspaper,hardly surprising,but this absolute denial of any problem leads me to believe the opposite and that "the management" have posted this story simply because people believe in the information they have,there is always a problem in any company however well run,I would give this story more credence if the author "publisher" had come straight to the point and said something along the lines of there are a few wrinkles to be worked out but we are in meaningful negotiations with the staff.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jan 2012 :  07:50:50  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
HELLO GAMBIA;

JOLLOF ON-LINE NEWS WITH MORE REVELATIONS AND CASUALTY AT FOROYAA FOR;

Edited by - kobo on 17 Jan 2012 13:58:48
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toubab1020



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Posted - 17 Jan 2012 :  11:36:02  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
http://www.jollofnews.com/20120117gambian-journalist-fabakary-b-ceesay-resigns-from-foroyaa-newspaper.html

"Finally and more importantly we want to make it absolutely clear that we at JollofNews have the highest respect for Mr. Sam Sarr and his editorial team and we have no further comment on this matter."

That's it then,the end.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 17 Jan 2012 :  13:09:20  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Toubab 1020. I don't think so? Ex-employee has a political agenda and collaborating with Jollof on-line news in smearing campaign against PDOIS, NADD and Foroyaa Management team!

Foroyaa is a political organ but they are the best on investigative journalism and achieved high standards of journalism; ranked amongst best national papers. The issue is that an employee is discontent and tendered his resignation, he should have kept his privacy and moved on after consultation with management team of ex-employers (Foroyaa)? His grievances were supposed to centre on remuneration, job security and job satisfaction; not on how Management runs its affairs and what is best for owners of the company? More updates are expected from Foroyaa to protect its credibility and excellent legacy; earned after decades of sacrifice, struggles and hard-work by proprietors and owners!

ITS SIMPLY A RESIGNATION BETWEEN EMPLOYER Vs EMPLOYEE RELATIONSHIP BUT JOLLOF ON-LINE NEWS APPEAR TO BE FISHING EXPEDITION TO DISCREDIT FOROYAA OR FOR WHAT BEYOND MY KNOWLEDGE

HOWEVER IT IS FAIR TO PROBE ALL NATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND THOSE ON PUBLIC SPOTLIGHT!

Foroyaa is the heart or engine of PDOIS/NADD and working for sensitisation, dissemination of variety of information, creating awareness and informing citizens (especially marginalised voice); so this is an interesting proposal under Bantaba "Opinion Poll: The management of Foroyaa should be further relinquished to private/independent operators to fully separate the paper from NADD and PDOIS political parties."

Edited by - kobo on 17 Jan 2012 14:31:12
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toubab1020



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Posted - 17 Jan 2012 :  13:41:55  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Kobo,I would agree on some of your points,this for instance:"they are the best on investigative journalism and achieved high standards of journalism; ranked amongst best national papers. " Not this though: "Foroyaa is a political organ" so its not a newspaper? Is the information that politicians are taking up too much space to the detriment of journalistic activities at the premises incorrect ? "what is best for owners of the company?" are these not prominent political figures?

I again agree that this is an excellent statement:"HOWEVER IT IS FAIR TO PROBE ALL NATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND THOSE ON PUBLIC SPOTLIGHT!"

Personally I think that there should be some way of ensuring that Politics should be separated from NEWS, OK all newspapers should be allowed to have political leanings but not to be "a political organ" i.e. a mouthpiece of a certain political party.


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jan 2012 :  13:53:20  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Toubab 1020 your concerns are addressed in Foroyaa Editorial under these sections quoted;
quote:
  • "Finally, only the idle mind would sit down and imagine a separation between Foroyaa and its founders. Edward Francis Small could rightly be called the pioneer of Gambian politics, trade Unionism and Journalism. There has never been a renown leader in this world who did not use his or her pen to educate. We are therefore proud to have founded an organ of a political party which could metamorphose to be a newspaper that its reporters would want to take over as their own not because they belong to a political party but because of its incontestable integrity as the mouthpiece of all those who want truth and justice."

  • "The pioneers are here to protect the integrity and values of the paper. All those who pass through Foroyaa know that the value of truth, good faith and the public interest constitute the basis of its operation and no journalist had ever been influenced to depart from this in favour of any personality or partisan interest. None has ever been persuaded to give political support. In passing, may we also add that the online papers who are bent on nagging about journalism and politics should abandon their double standards. How many media houses often declare open support for political parties in the west and else where? Matthew Jallow President, of GPU USA should not lecture us about separation of journalism from politics. What should be said is that just as a lawyer, professor, Medical Doctor or any body could go and perform a duty and still be a political representative a person could manage a paper and still allow journalists to do their work without any political interference of biasness."

  • "We want to tell Mr John of Jollof News that we have reached self actualization. Our credibility is already established. ......Foroyaa has always come to the support of every Gambian in distress no matter what shade of opinion. Foroyaa is a place of refuge for any Gambian who wants a hand to lean on."

  • "Foroyaa was meant to be a paper of volunteers and those who came to support it were expected to move on. It was during the first tussle which was reported in the online papers that it became clear that we were no longer having volunteers but people with vested interest"

  • "To conclude let us make it clear that Foroyaa is an asset to Gambian journalists. It is not in competition with any other paper. Its style is unique. It is based on two pillars of journalism that is, advocacy and Knowledge base Journalism. We do not only publish information we work to solve the problems of complainants. In fact, we solve more problems than we publish. The Foroyaa office is a citizen’s advisory bureau. People engage the services of very mature advisers 12 hours a day. They write letters, do research on the law, make telephone calls, arrange home visits and alert authorities to potential miscarriage of justice to prevent abuse or ensure redress. Many of the people who have worked with or are working with Foroyaa came to Foroyaa to seek one form of advice or another or seek refuge."


Edited by - kobo on 17 Jan 2012 14:22:29
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toubab1020



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Posted - 17 Jan 2012 :  15:04:05  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Thanks Kobo,I note this extract from your posting above;

"We are therefore proud to have founded an organ of a political party which could metamorphose to be a newspaper that its reporters would want to take over as their own not because they belong to a political party but because of its incontestable integrity as the mouthpiece of all those who want truth and justice."

If I read these words correctly they mean,ALL staff are members of the same political party,that must surely make independent NEWS reporting a problem .

also:
"Foroyaa was meant to be a paper of volunteers and those who came to support it were expected to move on. It was during the first tussle which was reported in the online papers that it became clear that we were no longer having volunteers but people with vested interest"

This statement bears out my observations,which to be fair to everyone is limited by published reading that I have access to.

also:
"any body could go and perform a duty and still be a political representative a person could manage a paper and still allow journalists to do their work without any political interference of biasness."

Almost impossible with staff belonging to different political parties I would have thought,but as all staff APPEAR to be members of the same political party then easy.

also;
I could not find an answer to my question:"what is best for owners of the company?" are these not prominent political figures?

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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toubab1020



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Posted - 17 Jan 2012 :  15:16:25  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
This topic from Foroyaa,shows their undoubted ability to obtain NEWS that other papers have not discovered,yes, doing the job of a NEWSPAPER

http://www.foroyaa.gm/modules/news/article.php?storyid=8678

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 17 Jan 2012 :  15:26:37  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
[quote]Originally posted by toubab1020

Thanks Kobo,I note this extract from your posting above;

"We are therefore proud to have founded an organ of a political party which could metamorphose to be a newspaper that its reporters would want to take over as their own not because they belong to a political party but because of its incontestable integrity as the mouthpiece of all those who want truth and justice."

If I read these words correctly they mean,ALL staff are members of the same political party,that must surely make independent NEWS reporting a problem .

ALL STAFF MEMBERS ARE NOT ON SAME POLITICAL PARTY! SO NOT AS YOU THINK?

It refers to the proprietors; pioneers and veterans of Foroyaa/PDOIS "have founded an organ of a political party which could metamorphose to be a newspaper that its reporters would want to take over as their own not because they belong to a political party but because of its incontestable integrity as the mouthpiece of all those who want truth and justice." A CLEAR DECLARATION THAT FOROYAA IS NOT BIASED ON PDOIS/NADD BUT A "MOUTHPIECE OF TRUTH AND JUSTICE"


also:
"any body could go and perform a duty and still be a political representative a person could manage a paper and still allow journalists to do their work without any political interference of biasness."

Almost impossible with staff belonging to different political parties I would have thought,but as all staff APPEAR to be members of the same political party then easy.

I don't get your point but subscribe to Foroyaa statement as valid?

also;
I could not find an answer to my question:"what is best for owners of the company?" are these not prominent political figures?

Foroyaa is thriving as a good business venture and also serving its proprietors and purpose for ownership?

Edited by - kobo on 17 Jan 2012 15:36:05
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toubab1020



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Posted - 17 Jan 2012 :  16:51:34  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Kobo,
"I don't get your point but subscribe to Foroyaa statement as valid?"

If ALL (current) staff are members of the same political party,(that's what I deduce from the clever words used) then as Editor or owner then there is no problem disseminating NEWS as EVERYONE would know how to word content of an article in such a way so as not to "injure" the political party of which they are a member.

Your answer confuses me,let me pose the question another way:
What are the names of the present "owners" of Foroyaa and are they prominent political figures of which party.?

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 17 Jan 2012 22:55:08
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 18 Jan 2012 :  17:11:43  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
I TRUST THIS FOROYAA NATIONAL NEWS UPDATE WILL CLOSE THIS EPISODE;


Edited by - kobo on 18 Jan 2012 17:26:09
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toubab1020



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Posted - 18 Jan 2012 :  20:32:32  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Kobo,an olive branch held out to Fabakary B Ceesay,
"We wish him well but would wish to advice him to come to Sam Sarr to discuss the issue of resignation. It deprives him of many benefits. We can arrange something that allows him to follow his designs without losing benefits."
Very nice words,but in reality neither the paper nor Fabakary could get on again,things have progressed too far ,if THE MANAGEMENT had listened to staff dissatisfaction and worked together the boat would not have been rocked so badly that it caused big waves.
If you cannot or do not want to answer my previous post that's OK I will not press the point and you can consider my participation in this topic at an end,others may wish to continue though.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 18 Jan 2012 :  23:55:03  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Who's Who in Foroyaa?

Prominent founder mebers of PDOIS and Foroyaa are Sidia Jatta, Sam Sarr, Halifa Sallah & Madam Amie Sillah. Founder members of PDOIS pioneered Foroyaa and ownership is floated for the party and its citizens bureau. I stated earlier that Foroyaa is the heart and engine of PDOIS political propaganda organ. However it thrived on sensitising citizens and creating awareness of the masses transformed to be impartial and transcends covering only politics but variety of topics (including national & international news).Now Foroyaa is commercialised as an independent national newspaper. And hope you can gather better understanding from these statements quoted from Foroyaa;
quote:
  • "We are therefore proud to have founded an organ of a political party which could metamorphose to be a newspaper that its reporters would want to take over as their own not because they belong to a political party but because of its incontestable integrity as the mouthpiece of all those who want truth and justice. "

  • "The pioneers are here to protect the integrity and values of the paper. All those who pass through Foroyaa know that the value of truth, good faith and the public interest constitute the basis of its operation and no journalist had ever been influenced to depart from this in favour of any personality or partisan interest. None has ever been persuaded to give political support."

  • "Foroyaa will never sleep until the pioneers are in their graves."

  • "However no good thing should remain the same. This is why the new Foroyaa is in the making. In fact, we will do what no corporate body would do by putting the blue print of the new Foroyaa in the public space so that others would share their views with us."


Edited by - kobo on 19 Jan 2012 00:27:51
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toubab1020



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Posted - 19 Jan 2012 :  00:06:26  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
I read what you have written,and I think that I now understand the concept of Foroyaa,a bit difficult for a toubab to get his head around though Thanks KOBO,

"Founder members of PDOIS pioneered Foroyaa and ownership is floated for the party. I stated earlier that Foroyaa is the heart and engine of PDOIS political propaganda organ However it thrived on sensitising citizens and creating awareness of the masses transformed to be impartial and transcends covering only politics. And hope you can gather better understanding from these statements quoted from Foroyaa;"

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 19 Jan 2012 00:09:45
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