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GAMBIA-L Digest 58
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) New members by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 2) Re: New members by J GAYE <J.Gaye@Bradford.ac.uk> 3) Fwd: Africa To Lose 3 Billion Dollars Under World Trade by Latir Downes-Thomas <latir@earthlink.net> 4) New member by "Jarju Malafy" <mafy@avana.net> 5) Re: New member by ASJanneh@aol.com 6) FAMILY SEARCH by Tamsir Mbai <mba4224@etbu.edu> 7) Re: FAMILY SEARCH by Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> 8) RE: faith by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 9) Fwd: USA: State Dept. Hypocrisy on Human by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 10) Fwd: SIERRA LEONE-POLITICS: First Civil by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 11) new member by gndow@spelman.edu (Gabriel Ndow) 12) new member by gndow@spelman.edu (Gabriel Ndow) 13) new member by gndow@spelman.edu (Gabriel Ndow) 14) Re: FAMILY SEARCH by Tamsir Mbai <mba4224@etbu.edu> 15) Re: FAMILY SEARCH by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 16) To Moe by Senessie Turay <9210077@talabah.iiu.my> 17) Re: FAMILY SEARCH by ASJanneh@aol.com 18) Re: FAMILY SEARCH by ASJanneh@aol.com 19) Re: FAMILY SEARCH by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 20) Fwd: AFRICA-POLITICS: Anything New From by momodou@inform-bbs.dk (Momodou Camara), newsdesk@igc.apc.org 21) TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN by Tamsir Mbai <mba4224@etbu.edu> 22) " CAN WE ALL JUST GET ALONG" by Mbk007@aol.com 23) Re: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN by binta@iuj.ac.jp 24) Re: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 25) List rules by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 26) Re: New Member by J GAYE <J.Gaye@Bradford.ac.uk> 27) Re: To Moe by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 28) Re: To Moe by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 29) Unsubscribe by "Fatou N'Jie" <gs01fnn@panther.Gsu.EDU> 30) Re: List rules by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 31) New Member by Alias431@aol.com 32) Let's Move On by Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> 33) New Member by sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) 34) How to Subscribe or Unsubscribe to Gambia-l by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 35) Original Draft Message by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 36) New members by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 37) New member by Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> 38) Deported Malians Revolt by Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> 39) Re: New member by "William O'Donnell" <billod@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> 40) Re: New member by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 41) Just a tip - by Ceesay Soffie <Ceesay_Soffie@ems.prc.com> 42) Re: new member by Yama Darboe <mdarbo01@shepherd.wvnet.edu> 43) Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT by Musa Sowe <chemsm@panther.Gsu.EDU> 44) Gambian/Malian Businessman jailed by ASJanneh@aol.com 45) Channel Africa News Brief. by Latir Downes-Thomas <latir@earthlink.net> 46) do what you like by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 47) Fwd: The Lord's Prayer in Ebonics (fwd) by binta@iuj.ac.jp 48) RE: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Let=B4s?= move on & Proposal/Food for thought by Olafiaklinikken Olafia <olafia@online.no> 49) Intoduction by Ellen Lewis <elewis@acvb.com> 50) Re: polygamy, violence, troublemakers ... by "ALPHA ROBINSON" <garob1@cip.hx.uni-paderborn.de> 51) Re: Intoduction by EThomas246@aol.com 52) RE: polygamy, violence, troublemakers ... by Ceesay Soffie <Ceesay_Soffie@ems.prc.com> 53) Self introduction by "A BITTAYE" <mae96ab@wye.ac.uk> 54) Re: Self introduction by binta@iuj.ac.jp 55) FWD: Female Genital Mutilation: Sources of Information by latir@earthlink.net (Lat) 56) MOMODOU CAMARA by Senessie Turay <9210077@talabah.iiu.my> 57) Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT by MJagana@aol.com 58) Re: MOMODOU CAMARA by KBadjie338@aol.com 59) New Member by sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) 60) ISSUE OF PRIVATE MAILS by MAKE THAT VISION A REALITY <ABARROW@rr5.rr.intel.com> 61) Forwarded news story by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 62) Africa: How bad is it? by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 63) Re: Forwarded news story by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 64) Re: Africa: How bad is it? by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 65) Self intruduction. by "omar" <omar@avana.net> 66) Help!! by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 67) Re: Forwarded news story by Ousman Gajigo <gajigoo@wabash.edu> 68) Re: Africa: How bad is it? by "Inqs." <nfaal@is2.dal.ca> 69) FWDing Intro by ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> 70) Re: Africa-How bad is it ? by JAWARAMB@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu 71) Re: Africa-How bad is it ? by binta@iuj.ac.jp 72) Re: Self intruduction. by "PA-MAMBUNA O. BOJANG" <paomar@iglou.com> 73) INTRODUCTION! by Muwanaidi Syonya Abdalla <9420057@talabah.iiu.my> 74) Re: Africa: How bad is it? by Abdou Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 75) Introduction by Buba Njie <Buba.Njie@econ.uib.no> 76) Re: ISSUE OF PRIVATE MAILS by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 77) Re: Introduction by Buba Njie <Buba.Njie@econ.uib.no> 78) do what you like by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 79) Re: Help!! by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 80) Greetings from Armenia by oleary@arminco.com 81) Re: ISSUE OF PRIVATE MAILS by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 82) Re: Greetings from Armenia by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 83) (Fwd) (Fwd) Black Internet Users? by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 84) cnet clip, African tycoon sentenced in export flap by at137@columbia.edu 85) Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT by Francis Njie <francis_njie@il.us.swissbank.com> 86) Re: ISSUE OF PRIVATE MAILS by Andrea Klumpp <klumpp@kar.dec.com> 87) Re-posting mail by Alias431@aol.com 88) Re: cnet clip, African tycoon sentenced in export flap by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 89) Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT by "Inqs." <nfaal@is2.dal.ca> 90) NGO/Initiative Info Request by Francis Njie <francis_njie@il.us.swissbank.com> 91) Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT by "Al M'Ballow" <al@orgear.com> 92) Re: Africa: How bad is it? by "Inqs." <nfaal@is2.dal.ca> 93) Re: Social Responsibility for Shell Oil! by Ndey Drammeh <NDRAMME@wpo.it.luc.edu> 94) Re: NGO/Initiative Info Request by Raye Sosseh <gt8065b@prism.gatech.edu> 95) Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT by MJagana@aol.com 96) Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT by MJagana@aol.com 97) Re: ISSUE OF PRIVATE MAILS by MAKE THAT VISION A REALITY <ABARROW@rr5.rr.intel.com> 98) Re: ISSUE OF PRIVATE MAILS by ASJanneh@aol.com 99) Re: ISSUE OF PRIVATE MAILS by binta@iuj.ac.jp 100) Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 101) Re: NGO/Initiative Info Request by MAKE THAT VISION A REALITY <ABARROW@rr5.rr.intel.com> 102) Re: Re-posting mail by EThomas246@aol.com 103) Re: NGO/Initiative Info Request by "William O'Donnell" <billod@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> 104) Questions on the "Transition" by ASJanneh@aol.com 105) Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 106) Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT by ASJanneh@aol.com 107) Re: Africa-How bad is it ? by Yaya Jallow <yj0001@jove.acs.unt.edu> 108) Female Genital Mutilation. by Ebrima Jawara <aeujawra@reading.ac.uk> 109) Re: NGO/Initiative Info Request by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 110) Gambian Cabinet ( forwarded news ) by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 111) Gambia's president takes over defence ministry (fwd) by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 112) Tobaski by ABALM@aol.com 113) Meningitis in West Africa by ASJanneh@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 19:26:28 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: New members Message-ID: <19970302182442.AAA28798@LOCALNAME>
Gambia-l, Both Norman Dyer and Rohey Khan have been added to the list and as a custom, we expect to have introductions from them. Welcome to the Gambia-l Norman and Rohey, please send your introductions to the list and we look forward to your contributions.
Best regards Momodou Camara
******************************************************* http://home3.inet.tele.dk/mcamara
**"Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible and suddenly you are doing the impossible"***
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Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 19:06:21 +0000 (GMT) From: J GAYE <J.Gaye@Bradford.ac.uk> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: New members Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970302190343.6508B-100000@kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Can you please add Alieu Bittaye's name on the list. His address is A BITTAYE mae96ab@wye.ac.uk Thank you.
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Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 17:21:05 -0500 From: Latir Downes-Thomas <latir@earthlink.net> To: GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Fwd: Africa To Lose 3 Billion Dollars Under World Trade Message-ID: <3319FD51.5F6C@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Africa To Lose 3 Billion Dollars Under World Trade=20
Mar. 1, 1997
Mildred Mulenga PANA Staff Correspondent=20
LUSAKA, Zambia (PANA) - Africa is expected to lose three billion US dollars by the year 2002 under the liberalisation programme of the World Trade Organisation (WTO), it has been revealed here.
A trade consultant with the Lusaka-based Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa (Comesa), Afwilile Mwakijungu, said on Friday in Lusaka that contrary to the African losses, all the other regions in the world will gain from multilateral trade liberalization.=20
Some countries would gain up to 60 billion US dollars, he added.
Speaking at a two-day, Mwakijungu said Africam countries will nonetheless have to liberalise their trade regimes.=20
Mwakijungu regreted that it is still in africa where countries question the importance and value of regional integration when donor countries are establishing economic groups to increase their muscle for dominating international trade.=20
Big and strong as they are economically, the United States, Canada, Britain, Germany and Japan are frantically working for economic allies. Africa is reluctant, sluggish and unsure why it should consolidate and expand its own regional groupings, Mwakijungu said.=20
He said that in view of the liberalisation programme, it was important that Comesa deepen and expand regional economic and trade organisations to ensure that the regional market is secure for member-states' products.=20
Mwakijungu said Comesa has already put up a spirited effort to promote and facilitate intra comesa trade. He cited the gradual reduction and eventual elimination of tariffs on Comesa manufactured products and the elimination of non tariff barriers.
Comesa as well as some donors have been advocating a merger with the Southern African Development C ommunity (SADC) which also includes 10 of Comesa member states. The two bodies are said to be carrying out similar projects.=20
Comesa has accussed SADC of frustraing efforts to resolve the dispute over the merger of the two organisations.=20
The Urguay round agreements trade liberalisation being administered by WTO, were signed in 1994 at Marrakesh, Morocco. The agreement is known as the Marrakesh Treaty .=20
Copyright =A9 1997 The Panafrican News Agency. All Rights Reserved.
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Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:08:27 -0500 From: "Jarju Malafy" <mafy@avana.net> To: <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: New member Message-ID: <199703030407.XAA29706@tiger.avana.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi Momodou Camara, Please add Mr. Omar Manjang to the list. His address is Omar@avana.net
Thanks Mafy (DeVry Institute of Technology)
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Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:57:32 -0500 (EST) From: ASJanneh@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: New member Message-ID: <970302235730_-2008545252@emout02.mail.aol.com>
Mafy & Others:
You have done a wonderful job attracting new members to our electronic "bantaba." And Momodou Camara has been an invaluable asset to the group, as evidenced from his role as one of the managers. A special thanks to all of you (Tony, Abdou, Sarian, Basss, Lamin, Malanding, etc.) for keeping things going!
>From a somewhat inactive subscription manager, Amadou Scattred Janneh
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 02:38:05 -0600 From: Tamsir Mbai <mba4224@etbu.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: FAMILY SEARCH Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970303021729.2957bf56@etbu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
HELLO OMAR F MBAI, WHAT'S UP OMAR. I WROTE A LITTLE OVER A WEEK AGO BUT HAVEN'T GOTTEN A REPLY YET. AS AN UPDATE, WRITE TO ME DIRECTLY AT "TAMSIR@HOTMAIL.COM". SAY HELLO TO BAI, OUS, AND THE REST OF THE FAMILY. PEACE AND GOOD LUCK. ------------- IT'S TAMSIR ------------------.
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Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 08:51:58 -0500 (EST) From: Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: FAMILY SEARCH Message-ID: <01IG265GSPKM008ND3@PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
New members:
to cut down on the number of irrelevant messages on the "bantaba," it was suggested that personal messages be directed to the individual(s) concerned and not to the List!
Peace Amadou Janneh
PS: Any of the managers could provide you with the e-mail addresses of the membership. (The List Managers, that is.)
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:49:28 +0000 From: "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: RE: faith Message-ID: <199703031847.SAA10226@netmail.city.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
well alhagie it appears to me that you're just amongst a the handful of the list members who would only read postings , respond AQAP, WITHOUT giving any thought to whatyhey have read. writing about what you know is completely different from answering a specific question. i was not making any comparisons between moslems ,christians or pagan. my topic as far as i can remember is simply for one to practice what one preaches. i think that speaks for itself.
I would not expect to see one who speaks highly against adultery to commit adultery or one who speaks bitterly against alcohol to drink. i said this because for the past few weeks the dominating topic was ISLAM. so i posted "faith" and said if all those guys out thereSPEAKING highly about islam do actually practice what Islam preaches. its very important for one to believe in what one is preaching otherwise one is a hypocrite.
if you said that you understood my postings , then i would say that the CAP FITS YOU.
NOTHING PERSONAL JUST A POV.
M'BAI OMAR F.
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 20:51:47 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Fwd: USA: State Dept. Hypocrisy on Human Message-ID: <19970303194950.AAA10764@LOCALNAME>
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Edited/Distributed by HURINet - The Human Rights Information Network --------------------------------------------------------------------- ## author : janet@wwpublish.com ## date : 05.02.97 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Via Workers World News Service Reprinted from the Feb. 13, 1997 issue of Workers World newspaper -------------------------
STATE DEPARTMENT ON HUMAN RIGHTS: RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION COVERS DOUBLE STANDARD By Pat Chin
On Jan. 30 the United States government issued its 20th annual report on human rights. The document, prepared by the State Department, targets 193 countries for various failures in human rights.
Nowhere in the report is the United States mentioned.
Of course, most of the report's fire was aimed at socialist countries or those that have resisted imperialism.
It attacks the Peoples Republic of China. It classifies Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Syria and north Korea as "terrorist states."
But U.S.-backed Israel--where the Palestinian people were brutally driven from their lands and where torture against political prisoners is institutionalized--was given a slap on the wrist. So was Britain, despite its massacres, imprisonment and torture of Irish freedom fighters.
Turkey, home to U.S. military bases and to a brutal war against the Kurdish national-liberation movement, gets off light. So does south Korea, the "democratic miracle" where workers just had to shut down the country to fight anti- labor repression and where a trip to the north means a lifetime prison sentence.
Cuban Foreign Ministry spokesperson Miguel Alfonso dismissed the State Department report as a "crude exaggeration." He designated its importance as "practically nil."
The State Department review came two days after the White House had dangled "the prospect of billions of dollars of aid and investment to Cuba if the island reforms its political system and dumps President Fidel Castro," according to a Reuter report.
Castro had responded, "Cuba is not for sale."
During the same week that Washington issued its so-called human-rights report, three striking pieces of news about the state of human rights in this country also hit.
RACIST ABUSES IN U.S.
In Alabama, a federal magistrate ruled against use of the "hitching post" in state prisons. During court hearings, prisoners had testified that "in the broiling heat of Alabama's summers, the damp cold of its winters and rain in all seasons, they have stood shackled for as long as seven hours ... deprived of food, water, and the opportunity to use a toilet." (New York Times, Jan. 31)
A lawsuit had also sought to end the use of chain gangs, reinstituted last year. The state had agreed to discontinue the chain gangs. But Alabama has refused to stop shackling prisoners, and will appeal the magistrate's opinion.
Nationwide, 14 percent of Black men are not allowed to vote, according to a study released Jan. 30.
An estimated 1.46 million Black men are currently or permanently disenfranchised because they are either serving time for a felony conviction or have been convicted of a felony in the past.
The analysis is by the Sentencing Project. It also found that the disparity between Black and white people who are incarcerated has continued to grow.
Some 51 percent of all inmates in state and federal prisons are Black--even though people of African descent make up only 14 percent of the general population.
Meanwhile, the average income of Latinos has declined sharply. In 1991, for example, median income fell by 5.1 percent for Latinos.
As a result, according to new Census Bureau statistics, Latinos now make up 24 percent of the poor in this country-- an increase of 8 percent since 1985 and more than double the proportion of Latinos in the population.
DOUBLE STANDARD
Under bourgeois definitions, basic human rights like jobs and decent affordable housing and health care are ignored. Emphasis is placed instead on ideas like "freedom" of speech and the press, the right to vote and assemble, religious "freedom," and so on.
Of course, the claim that there is no freedom in socialist Cuba, for example, is simply untrue. But even in this country, supposedly the bastion of bourgeois demo cracy, where are all those freedoms?
What about those 15 million Black men who can't vote? Many of them were imprisoned because of economic deprivation and racist sentencing practices.
What about the decline in Latino income and the medieval torture of Alabama's hitching posts?
What about the growing gap between rich and poor, and a prison population that is bursting at the seams?
Foreign policy reflects the same contradictions. Washington has long supported regimes that engage in mass murder, and that imprison, torture and kill dissenters. In fact, the U.S. government selectively ignores those human- rights violations that fall within even the narrow parameters of bourgeois definition--when capitalist economic interests and the U.S. profit system are at stake.
"A number of countries with deplorable records of human- rights observance are also countries where we have important security and foreign-policy interests," asserted President Jimmy Carter in a 1977 report to Congress. Today nothing has changed, as the Pentagon war machine continues to grow in the narrow interests of the rich.
The United States grew rich and powerful on the spoils of the most brutal slave system in history, and on the near- extermination of the Native peoples, and on the theft of their lands and the lands of others. This government is in no position to criticize human-rights violations of other countries, whether real or contrived.
Does the country that uses the death penalty as a tool of racist oppression, that unleashes police, FBI and CIA terror against workers and the poor, that tries to starve and terrorize nations like Cuba and Iraq into submission--does the only country that ever used atomic bombs--have the right to self-righteously judge others?
Like the often-manipulated concepts of freedom and democracy, the use of "human rights" critiques by U.S. imperialism is but another cover in the drive for world domination.
- END -
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 20:51:47 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Fwd: SIERRA LEONE-POLITICS: First Civil Message-ID: <19970303194950.AAB10764@LOCALNAME>
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Copyright 1997 InterPress Service, all rights reserved. Worldwide distribution via the APC networks.
*** 21-Feb-97 ***
Title: SIERRA LEONE-POLITICS: First Civil War, Now Ethnic Strife
By Lansana Fofana
FREETOWN, Feb 21 (IPS) - Sierra Leone's emergence from civil war is being jeopardised by a conflict between rebels and a militia made up of traditional hunters that has degenerated into inter- ethnic feuding.
The ethnic nature of the conflict came to the surface this week when the Revolutionary United Front (RUF) rebels, who are mainly >From the Temne ethnic group, vowed to continue fighting against what they described as the hegemony of the Mende.
''We (RUF) know for sure that the local hunters' militia are made up of Mende thugs who are fighting to eliminate their Temne ethnic counterparts,'' claimed RUF spokesman Gibril Massaquoi, ''and we can't take this.''
The militia, known as the Kamajors, fought alongside the government army during Sierra Leone's civil war, which started in 1991. An accord signed in November last by the government and the RUF -- and which included a cease-fire -- has brought some peace to most parts of the country, but there have been clashes between rebels and Kamajors in others.
''Cease-fire or no cease-fire, we think these Kamajors have to be halted,'' said Massaquoi. ''they think that they would reintroduce tribalism in our country and send us several years backward.''
The Mende and Temne, traditional rivals, are the largest of the country's 16 ethnic groups. The former make up 35 percent of the estimated 4.5 million Sierra Leoneans, while 40 percent are Temne.
The fighting between rebels and Kamajors has been concentrated in the southeast, which is mainly Mende, and the north, where the Temne are in the majority. According to some reports, the hunters have killed more than 100 rebels since the cease-fire, while RUF soldiers have been killing civilians, soldiers and Kamajors.
''If we can't get them (Kamajors), we will attack their shields -- the civilians who harbour them,'' one rebel was quoted as saying by a local paper.
The rebels have reportedly been searching passenger vehicles for their foes. Some commuters said their buses were stopped told the media that RUF men had killed the Kamajors among them on the spot, but had left civilian passengers unharmed.
Over the past three days, state radio and TV have been countering the RUF's claims that the hunters are being used in an anti-Temne witchhunt.
President Ahmed Tejan Kabbah said the allegation that the Kamajors were ''Mende thugs'' was ''unfounded, baseless and an attempt (by the RUF) to divert world attention from its non- compliance with the terms of the peace accord.'' He also appealed for national unity.
A senior official in his administration admitted Friday to IPS that, given the latent tension between the two ethnic groups, the RUF allegation was cause for concern. ''This claim by the rebels could only plunge the country into chaos and we don't want a Liberia-style carnage here,'' he said.
Some people here feel the answer is to disband the militia. ''The Kamajors boast all around the provinces that this is their government and that no one can take power from Mendes,'' says 35- year-old truck driver Fayia Ansumana. ''They must be disarmed and completely demobilised.''
Tejan Kabbah's Sierra Leone People's Party (SLPP) is viewed as largely Mende. He himself is half-Mende, while his vice president and about half of his ministers are Mende.
On the other hand, RUF leader Foday Sankoh is Temne and most of his lieutenants are said to come from that group, to which the leader and many top officials of the main opposition United National People's Party (UNPP) also belong.
The rebels' allegations have come amid complaints that the SLPP has been marginalising non-Mendes, with critics of the ruling party accusing it of basing political appointments on ethnic origin.
Political analyst Ansumana Fornah of the University of Sierra Leone feels they could have a point. ''More than 50 percent of all heads of parastatals, boards of directors, top civil servants are Mendes and I find this a strange coincidence,'' he said.
''I think the government should be seen to practice democracy properly,'' he added. ''What happens to the 15 (other) ethnic groups? Isn't this a recipe for fresh war?'' (END/IPS/LF/KB/97)
Origin: Harare/SIERRA LEONE-POLITICS/ ----
[c] 1997, InterPress Third World News Agency (IPS)
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:13:34 -0500 From: gndow@spelman.edu (Gabriel Ndow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: new member Message-ID: <199703032213.RAA08487@angola.spelman.edu>
Greeting:
I have added Ellen Lewis to the list. She will be introducing herself shortly.
I also want to thank the other managers for filling in for me during my long silence from the group.
LatJor
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:27:18 -0500 From: gndow@spelman.edu (Gabriel Ndow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: new member Message-ID: <199703032227.RAA08501@angola.spelman.edu>
Nyang (Daddy) Njie has been added. Welcome back Daddy.
LatJor
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 17:53:58 -0500 From: gndow@spelman.edu (Gabriel Ndow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: new member Message-ID: <199703032253.RAA08514@angola.spelman.edu>
Dr. Gabriel Mendy has been added to the list. He will introduce himself shortly.
Welcome to our bantaba.
LatJor
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 22:43:09 -0600 From: Tamsir Mbai <mba4224@etbu.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: FAMILY SEARCH Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970303222233.2967a146@etbu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 08:51 AM 3/3/97 -0500, you wrote: >New members: > >to cut down on the number of irrelevant messages on the "bantaba," it >was suggested that personal messages be directed to the individual(s) >concerned and not to the List! > >Peace >Amadou Janneh > >PS: Any of the managers could provide you with the e-mail addresses >of the membership. (The List Managers, that is.) > what kind of stupid message is this? you don't think to search for a family member is important? no wonder our nation is suffering all the brain-drain. once people like you are out of the country, you forget all about family and national ties. reconsider your language next time, amadou. my sincere apologies to anyone that this does not concern. thank you. Tamsir.
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 00:23:22 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: FAMILY SEARCH Message-ID: <9703040523.AA06946@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Amadou Janneh wrote:
> >New members: > > > >to cut down on the number of irrelevant messages on the "bantaba," it > >was suggested that personal messages be directed to the individual(s) > >concerned and not to the List! > > > >Peace > >Amadou Janneh > > > >PS: Any of the managers could provide you with the e-mail addresses > >of the membership. (The List Managers, that is.)
Tamsir Mbai replied:
> what kind of stupid message is this? you don't think to search for a family > member is important? no wonder our nation is suffering all the brain-drain. > once people like you are out of the country, you forget all about family and > national ties. reconsider your language next time, amadou. > my sincere apologies to anyone that this does not concern. thank you. > Tamsir.
Mr. Mbai & list members,
As members of the net community, we often do not know one another in person but we should still try to offer the same premium of politeness as in the real world. I hope that what I am about to say does not culminate into any kind of flaming.
I believe that Mr. Janneh, as a list manager, was merely making a fortright comment that was not meant to be a personal attack directed to you or anyone else but to the entire list (especially the new members). Before getting into an argument, I think that it is fairly important not to misinterprete the other person, as context is often difficult to read in e-mail.
I will admit that I have, in the past, sent out personal messages to other members but I do agree with Amadou that they (personal memos) should be kept off the list. For one thing, it is a watse of people's time, adds nothing to the discussion at hand and therefore, often irritating to other members.
On the other hand, I feel that freedom of speech is prized as a way of life on the internet and people will often say things that anger or upset you. In this case, I can understand your stance. However, we still need someone to censor us otherwise we would be calling each other names that are more appropriate to a play ground than an adult forum.
I believe that is why we have list managers (Amadou, being one of them) to control the flow of activities on the listproc. I think that a more appropriate step that should be taken by list managers, would be to send private e-mail, objecting politely, to those individuals who continually send personal messages to the list.
Please, let's respect one another and keep our e-mail exchanges as civilized as possible.
Tamsir & Amadou, this is nothing personal, I hope =))).
Regards, Moe S. Jallow
=============================================================================== mjallow@sct.edu mjallow@hayes.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:46:22 +0800 (SGT) From: Senessie Turay <9210077@talabah.iiu.my> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: To Moe Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.970304133410.23172A-100000@talabah.iiu.my> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Assalamu alaikum, Could you kindly enlist Matar Njie's address on the net; g90matar@cc.um.edu.my. He is a Gambian pursuing a postgraduate degree in business administration in Malaysia. He is very much interested in keep abreast with the current development in Gambia. May God bless you all.
Sanusi.
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 01:10:03 -0500 (EST) From: ASJanneh@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: FAMILY SEARCH Message-ID: <970304010959_-1473599183@emout01.mail.aol.com>
Tamsir:
you have the right to characterize my request as "stupid," and that's fine with me. I will not respond in kind. It was nothing personal to ask that personal messages be directed to the individual(s) concerned. I don't know you and I have no reason whatsoever to engage in such a petty exchange with you. It's my last word to you on the matter!
Salaam! Amadou Scattred Janneh
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 01:17:57 -0500 (EST) From: ASJanneh@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: FAMILY SEARCH Message-ID: <970304011755_-1808347721@emout07.mail.aol.com>
Tamsir:
well, I am sorry, you 've not heard the last word from me yet.
Questions:
Did I sayanything about "family reunions" not being important? Or did I merely state what was already a consensus?
About family: I made sure I got four brothers here primarily to study. One is at the University of Tennessee; another at Pellissippi State Tech Comm College.
Forgetting Home: No! I just returned from one of many trips I 've made to The Gambia since I 've been here.
I hope this sheds some light!
Amadou Scattred Janneh
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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 09:05:25 +0300 From: BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: FAMILY SEARCH Message-ID: <313A8824.32DB@QATAR.NET.QA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Modou Jallow wrote: >=20 > Amadou Janneh wrote: >=20 > > >New members: > > > > > >to cut down on the number of irrelevant messages on the "bantaba," i= t > > >was suggested that personal messages be directed to the individual(s= ) > > >concerned and not to the List! > > > > > >Peace > > >Amadou Janneh > > > > > >PS: Any of the managers could provide you with the e-mail addresses > > >of the membership. (The List Managers, that is.) >=20 > Tamsir Mbai replied: >=20 > > what kind of stupid message is this? you don't think to search for a = family > > member is important? no wonder our nation is suffering all the brain-= drain. > > once people like you are out of the country, you forget all about fam= ily and > > national ties. reconsider your language next time, amadou. > > my sincere apologies to anyone that this does not concern. th= ank you. > > Tamsir. >=20 > Mr. Mbai & list members, >=20 > As members of the net community, we often do not know one another in > person but we should still try to offer the same premium of politeness = as > in the real world. I hope that what I am about to say does not culminat= e > into any kind of flaming. >=20 > I believe that Mr. Janneh, as a list manager, was merely making a > fortright comment that was not meant to be a personal attack directed t= o > you or anyone else but to the entire list (especially the new members). > Before getting into an argument, I think that it is fairly important no= t > to misinterprete the other person, as context is often difficult to rea= d > in e-mail. >=20 > I will admit that I have, in the past, sent out personal messages to ot= her > members but I do agree with Amadou that they (personal memos) should be > kept off the list. For one thing, it is a watse of people's time, adds > nothing to the discussion at hand and therefore, often irritating to ot= her > members. >=20 > On the other hand, I feel that freedom of speech is prized as a way of > life on the internet and people will often say things that anger or ups= et > you. In this case, I can understand your stance. However, we still need > someone to censor us otherwise we would be calling each other names tha= t > are more appropriate to a play ground than an adult forum. >=20 > I believe that is why we have list managers (Amadou, being one of them)= to > control the flow of activities on the listproc. I think that a more > appropriate step that should be taken by list managers, would be to sen= d > private e-mail, objecting politely, to those individuals who continuall= y > send personal messages to the list. >=20 > Please, let's respect one another and keep our e-mail exchanges as > civilized as possible. >=20 > Tamsir & Amadou, this is nothing personal, I hope =3D))). >=20 > Regards, > Moe S. Jallow >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > mjallow@sct.edu mjallow@hayes.com > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= --------
MR.JALLOW! you are absolutely right! Mr.Janneh was exercising his mandate as a list manager,and to label that as STUPID was totally UNNECESSARY!!
REGARDS BASSS!! --=20 SZDD=88=F0'3Af=A8=03
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 08:45:34 +0100 From: momodou@inform-bbs.dk (Momodou Camara), newsdesk@igc.apc.org To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Fwd: AFRICA-POLITICS: Anything New From Message-ID: <1281224670.3989953@inform-bbs.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable
Copyright 1997 InterPress Service, all rights reserved.
Worldwide distribution via the APC networks.
*** 28-Feb-97 ***
Title: AFRICA-POLITICS: Anything New From Commonwealth Mini-Summit?
By IPS Correspondents
GABORONE, Feb 28 (IPS) - As Commonwealth African leaders met this
week in Botswana, in nearby Swaziland four union leaders were
being freed by a court after spending 26 days in jail.
They were imprisoned for their part in a general strike the
Swaziland Federation of Trade Unions (SFTU) began four weeks ago
to press for political and labour reforms in the landlocked
monarchy, where political parties have been banned since 1973.
And as the 16 leaders pursued their Feb. 26-27 discussions in
the northern Botswana resort town of Kasane, students in Kenya
were protesting against the murder of one of their leaders,
suspected to have been killed by the police in one of numerous
human rights violations imputed to the Kenyan state.
But the leaders, who included Kenyan President Daniel Arap Moi
and a member of Swaziland's cabinet, highlighted ethnic division,
poverty and under-development among hindrances to the smooth
development of democracy in Africa, according to a statement
issued at the end of their two-day retreat.
The meeting -- a Roundtable on Democracy and Good Governance --
did, however, include the weakness of some institutions essential
to sustainable democracy among the drawbacks.
They also identified another hindrance: some non-governmental
organisations (NGOs). According to the statement, the African
leaders expressed concern about ''the role of those NGOs which,
with foreign funding, were promoting activities detrimental to a
stable democratic process''.
''We are not saying they (NGOs) are all politically
undesirable,'' Botswana President Ketumile Masire said here at a
press conference Thursday at which the statement was released.
''...it's those that come dressed in sheepskins.''
Neither Masire and Commonwealth Secretary-General Emeka
Anyaoku, who also addressed the press conference, identified the
NGOs or the nature of their activities.
Thus few except the participants in the private discussions
held in Kasane know if the offenders included groups like the
Kenya Human Rights Commission (KHRC) which has been blowing the
whistle on abuses in Kenya or the many NGOs which have criticised
the handling of a controversial presidential election in Zambia
last November.
Still, the leaders did declare their determination to work
towards consolidating democracy in their countries, reaffirming
their commitment to a declaration on the protection and promotion
of democracy, issued at a 1991 Commonwealth Summit in Harare,
Zimbabwe, according to Anyaoku.
Anyaoku reported that the nine heads of state and top
government officials from seven other countries also acknowledged
the importance of opposition parties as partners in ensuring
democracy.
But they made no joint commitment on proposals worked out at a
Feb. 24-25 preparatory conference by government representatives,
opposition politicians and academics from their countries, and
which were presented to the summit.
The proposals included the setting up of constitutional
frameworks and state structures that would facilitate democratic
practice, as well as the establishment of a democratic culture in
the various Commonwealth African nations.
Anyaoku said the heads found the recommendations ''to be useful
and worthy of wider debate in Africa and within the
Commonwealth''. However, the meeting left it up to each government
to implement the proposals, according to the Commonwealth
Secretary-General.
If the preparatory meeting's submissions are implemented by
governments, opposition parties would receive funding from the
state which, Anyaoku said, is already the case in countries such
as Malawi, the Seychelles and South Africa.
Not so in Zimbabwe, where state funding is reserved for parties
which obtain at least 15 of the 120 elected seats in parliament.
Only the governing Zimbabwe African National Union-Patriotic Front
(ZANU-PF) has thus far qualified.
The countries represented by their heads of state in Kasane
were Botswana, Gambia, Kenya, Malawi, Mozambique, South Africa,
Tanzania, Zambia and Zimbabwe.
Cameroon, Ghana, Lesotho, Namibia, Seychelles, Swaziland and
Uganda sent top government officials -- vice-presidents, prime
ministers and deputy prime ministers. Nigeria, suspended from the
Commonwealth in late 1995 following the execution of nine minority
rights activists, was not invited.
If the statement is anything to go by, the two-day retreat was
nothing to write home about. However, the heads did not go to
Kasane with the idea of coming up with a panacea for Africa's
governance problems, judging from a statement made by Masire.
''It was not a meeting of perfectionists,'' he said. ''It was
to check on and help progress towards democracy in our
countries.'' (END/IPS/MM/KB/97)
Origin: Harare/AFRICA-POLITICS/
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 02:02:46 -0600 From: Tamsir Mbai <mba4224@etbu.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970304014211.400f20e6@etbu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN, JUST A FINAL WORD ON THIS WHOLE ISSUE. I FIND IT REALLY ABSURD AND HYPOCRITICAL FOR FOR SOME OF YOU TO ADVOCATE A CIVIL AND DIPLOMATIC APPROACH TO THE RESOLUTION OF ANY APPARENT PROBLEM, YET ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU TURN AROUND AND START POINTING FINGERS IN AN ATTEMPT TO BLAME ME FOR BEING RUDE TO MR JANNEH. IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS UNDERSTANDING THE SEMANTICS OF MR JANNEH'S REMARK, THEN I THINK IT APPROPRIATE TO QUOTE THE SENTENCE THAT I FOUND "STUPID." IN RESPONSE TO A MAIL THAT I POSTED IN SEARCH OF A FAMILY MEMBER, MR JANNEH WROTE "to cut down on the number of irrelevant messages on the bantaba ......" NOW YOU TELL ME WHAT IRRELEVANT MEANS. AS SOME OF YOU SAID, AND RIGHTLY SO, THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ME, YOU WILL FIND THAT I AM A VERY RESPECTFUL INDIVIDUAL. WHAT I WILL NOT TOLERATE THOUGH IS FOR SOMEONE TO CHARACTERIZE MY ACTIONS OR EFFORTS AS irrelevant. WHEN I POSTED MY RESPONSE, I DID APOLOGIZE TO ALL THE LIST MEMBERS THAT THE MESSAGE DID NOT CONCERN. IF YOU READ MY MESSAGE CAREFULLY, IT WAS MORE OF AN ATTEMPT TO CAUTION MR JANNEH TO USE APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE WHEN DEALING WITH PEOPLE RATHER THAN ENGAGE IN A DIATRIBE THAT WAS TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR. AS A CO-MANAGER OF THIS NETWORK, I'M SURE MR JANNEH COULD HAVE GOTTEN MY EMAIL ADDRESS FROM ONE OF THE OTHER MANAGERS AND WRITTEN TO ME DIRECTLY IF HE HAD ANY OBJECTION ABOUT MY MESSAGE. ON THE CONTRARY, HE USED THE NETWORK AS A PLATFORM TO VOICE HIS OPINION AND YET INSISTS THAT OTHER PEOPLE NOT DO THAT. I HAVE RECEIVED SO MANY IRRELEVANT MESSAGES THROUGH THIS NETWORK AND NEVER ONCE MADE A PERSONAL RESPONSE TO ANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS CONCERNED. THE REASON I DIDN'T IS BECAUSE NOBODY IS OBLIGATED TO READ ANY OF THE MESSAGES YOU RECEIVE. I HAVE FOUND MESSAGES FROM PEOPLE THAT JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THEY ARE BACK FROM SOMEPLACE. WHO CARES? IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO CONTRIBUTE, THEN DO SO AND THEN PEOPLE WILL RESPOND IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY. I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO KNOW WHO IS BACK OR NOT ESPECIALLY IF WE DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER ON A PERSONAL LEVEL. MY POINT IS THAT IF YOU FIND ANY MESSAGE NOT TO BE IMPORTANT, SIMPLY DISCARD IT AND MOVE ON. IT DOES NOT TAKE ANY EFFORT TO DO SO. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL WOES OF OUR LEADERS HAS BEEN A LACK OF DILIGENT LEADERSHIP SKILLS. THIS SETBACK HAS AGAIN MANIFESTED ITSELF. IF WE AS A PEOPLE HAVE TO GAIN FROM THE MANY WONDERFUL MINDS THAT OUR DIVERSITY HAS TO OFFER, THEN I RECOMMEND THAT WE START BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSIDERATE TO THE OPINIONS AND EFFORTS OF OTHER PEOPLE. IT TAKES AN ENTIRE NATION TO BUILD A MIMICABLE IDENTITY, NOT JUST THE LEADERS OF THAT PARTICULAR NATION. AND MR JANNEH ABOUT YOUR BROTHERS DOING SO WELL, TELL THEM I SAID TO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. I HOPE THEIR EDUCATION WILL ACCOMODATE THEM WITH THE NECESSARY TOOLS TO DEAL WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN AN ATMOSPHERE OF PEACE, LOVE, HARMONY AND MAXIMUM RESPECT FOR EVERYONE ELSE. DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD LIKE OTHERS DO UNTO YOU. MY PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRESS IS "TAMSIR@HOTMAIL.COM"
TO THE REST OF GAMBIA-L, SORRY AGAIN. I HAD TO DEFEND MYSELF. I DON'T NEED THE SERVICES OF OTHER PEOPLE TO DO THAT. THANKS AND GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY IN ALL YOUR ENDEAVOURS. IT'S TAMSIR.
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 04:01:17 -0500 (EST) From: Mbk007@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: " CAN WE ALL JUST GET ALONG" Message-ID: <970304040116_1747278919@emout06.mail.aol.com>
ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS BANTABA ,IS TO EXCHANGE AND DEBATE ABOUT IMPORTANT ISSUES, SO PLEASE REFRAIN FROM PETTY FIGHTS.
PEACE ON EARTH
M. B.KRUBALLY.
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:08:25 JST +900 From: binta@iuj.ac.jp To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN Message-ID: <199703040903.SAA02427@mlsv.iuj.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
The issue of sending personal mails through the List has been discussed countless times that we all need to take heed. But if it happens that somebody utters a cautionary remark in that regard, I think we owe ourselves the privilege of accepting it as such. This is one issue that requires no further elaboration.
"It takes more than a man to accept the truth and apologise". Perhaps, an eye for an eye leaves all of us half blind.
Lamin.
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:51:58 +0000 From: "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN Message-ID: <199703040949.JAA07634@netmail.city.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL. ITS EITHER TO SIT UP OR SHUT UP . YOU HAVE INDEED DONE THE RIGHT THING. SOMEONE HAS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE UN- NECESSARY AND SILLY LITTLE COMMENTS MADE BY CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE LIST .I WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME THING.( MAYBE ITS A M'BAI THING).
WELL MR. JANNEH I THINK MY COUSIN HAS CLEARLY EXPRESSED HIS P.O.V AND I HOPE YOU DO GET THE MESSAGE. ITS VERY IMPORTANT TO THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE WRITING ANYTHING ESPECIALLY FOR A PERSON IN YOUR POSITION AS "CO-ORDINATOR".
I DON'T THINK IT IS "IRRELEVANT " TO SEARCH FOR A FAMILY MEMBER ON THE NET. IT WAS ME HE WAS ACTUALLY SEARCHING FOR AFTER ALMOST 6 YEARS. I SUGGEST TO YOU TO APOLOGISE TO ALL THE LIST MEMBERS OR RESIGN NOW.
" KELIFA DENG KOI NURU". ( KOCC BARMA)
M'BAI OMAR F.
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:51:14 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: List rules Message-ID: <19970304104919.AAA27412@LOCALNAME>
One of the rules of the list is that; " slandering and libelling of people will not be accepted, and will result in immediate and permanent loss of subscription"
Peace! Momodou Camara
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:37:10 +0000 (GMT) From: J GAYE <J.Gaye@Bradford.ac.uk> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: New Member Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970304133337.21492B-100000@kite.cen.brad.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Can you please add Alieu Bittaye's name to the list. His address is A BITTAYE<mae96ab@wye.ac.uk> Thanks in advance.
J.Gaye
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:19:06 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: To Moe Message-ID: <9703041419.AA22418@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
To all members:
Please, direct all subscription requests to one the following individuals: Abdou Touray Tony Loum Latjor Ndow Amadou Janneh Sarian Loum Momdou Camara
Also, if you need any other help such as finding e-mail addresses of old friends & family members, you may direct your requests to these list managers.
Thank you for your co-operation.
Regards, Moe S. Jallow
============================================================================== mjallow@sct.edu mjallow@hayes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Could you kindly enlist Matar Njie's address on the net; > g90matar@cc.um.edu.my. He is a Gambian pursuing a postgraduate degree in > business administration in Malaysia. He is very much interested in keep > abreast with the current development in Gambia. > May God bless you all.
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:31:58 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: To Moe Message-ID: <9703041431.AA26516@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Alternatively, you can quietly send your requests to: GAMBIA-L-owner@u.washington.edu
> To all members: > > Please, direct all subscription requests to one the following individuals: > Abdou Touray > Tony Loum > Latjor Ndow > Amadou Janneh > Sarian Loum > Momdou Camara > > Also, if you need any other help such as finding e-mail addresses of old > friends & family members, you may direct your requests to these list > managers. > > Thank you for your co-operation. > > Regards, > Moe S. Jallow > > ============================================================================== > mjallow@sct.edu mjallow@hayes.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:30:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Fatou N'Jie" <gs01fnn@panther.Gsu.EDU> To: Gambia-L <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Unsubscribe Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970304103039.23165A-100000@panther.Gsu.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
******************************************** * Fatou N'Jie * * Decision Sciences Department * * Georgia State University * * * * Email: fanjie@gsu.edu * * http://www.gsu.edu/~gs01fnn/index.html * ********************************************
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:55:44 -0500 From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: msjaiteh@mtu.edu Subject: Re: List rules Message-ID: <199703041555.KAA06111@oak.ffr.mtu.edu>
> From GAMBIA-L-owner@u.washington.edu Tue Mar 4 05:53:14 1997 > Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:51:14 +0000 > From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) > To: "GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> > Subject: List rules > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > One of the rules of the list is that; " slandering and libelling of > people will not be accepted, and will result in immediate and > permanent loss of subscription" > > > > Peace! > Momodou Camara >
Perhaps it would be appropriate to inform new members that a year ago one of the founding members resigned from the list because of differing views on how serious we should take rules guiding discussions on this group. Some of us liberals (then and still) believe that we do not need such as members should be mature and considerate enough to keep off from slandering one another.
I don't think recent communications have been helpful to that liberal course. As others pointed out the issue of personal messages had been discussed earlier. Omar and Tamsir, the only battle here that needs to be won is the rule of commno sense. If we believe that Amadou comment was inappropriate, please let him know without the 's'word. And I am sure he does not need to be a subscription manager to say let go personnal messages.
Please, please we should not force the group dictate what we have to say or not to say by putting up rules.
Thanks
Malanding Jaiteh
Ps Tony or Momodou Camara could you please re-post the draft list protocol for all to revisit. May be that would help.
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 12:40:36 -0500 (EST) From: Alias431@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: New Member Message-ID: <970304124035_1847130600@emout05.mail.aol.com>
List managers:
Could you please add Essa Thomas to the list. His email address is
EThomas246@aol.com
Thanks
Haddijatou Secka
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 13:09:49 -0500 (EST) From: Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Let's Move On Message-ID: <01IG3TF3IBFU0088IJ@PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Gambia-l:
Please let's move on to issues such as: improving the healthcare system in The Gambia; ensuring democratic governance; increasing agricultural production; the "transition"; access to education and training; ingraining the concept of civilian supremacy in our military; and more.
It's my humble suggestion.
Salaam! Amadou Scattred Janneh
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:44:00 -0800 From: sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: New Member Message-ID: <199703041844.KAA13273@thesky.incog.com>
All,
Essa Thomas has been added to the list. Welcome aboard and please send in your intro to gambia-l.
Sarian
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:52:52 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: How to Subscribe or Unsubscribe to Gambia-l Message-ID: <19970304185103.AAA6474@LOCALNAME>
Here is a tip of how to Subscribe or Unsubscribe to the Gambia-l without sending a message to the whole list:-
1. The message should be sent to <listproc@u.washington.edu>
2. Leave the 'Subject' field empty
3. In the message area just write:-
subscribe gambia-l <your name> (not the e-mail) or unsubscribe gambia-l
YOU CAN'T ADD A FRIEND THIS WAY BECAUSE IT IS THE SUBSCRIBER HIM / HERSELF WHO SHOULD SEND THE ABOVE MESSAGE!!!!!!
-------------------------------------------------------------------- Example:- To add myself to the list, I just send an e-mail
TO: listproc@u.washington.edu Subject: Cc:
subscribe gambia-l Momodou Camara
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:52:52 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Original Draft Message Message-ID: <19970304185103.AAB6474@LOCALNAME>
Here is the original Draft Message as requested by Malanding. This message was intended to be sent to all new members.
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DRAFT MESSAGE -------------------------
YOU'RE ON ...
WELCOME to GAMBIA-L, a mailing list for discussions on The Gambia, and related issues. The Gambia is a small country in West Africa with a strong tradition of peacefulness, in a generally turbulent region. GAMBIA-L is geared toward providing a forum for the exchange of ideas and information between people interested in developments in The Gambia, and issues relevant to the welfare of the country.
The mailing list is an open, collaborative one aimed at being as inclusive as possible, and at the same time fostering an atmosphere for healthy dialogue and debate. It is our sincere hope that you find the list enjoyable, and worthy of your while. This file describes the background, purpose, and features of GAMBIA-L as well as guidelines on getting the most out of the service.
THE GAMBIA
The Gambia is a small (4,000 square miles or 11,295 sq. km) country in West Africa. It is surrounded by Senegal on all sides, except on the Atlantic coast, and for this reason the two countries have a lot of ethnic and cultural ties. In contrast to Senegal, a former French colony, The Gambia was colonized by Britain and gained it's Independence on February 18, 1965.
From Indepdence in 1965 to April, 1970 the country had a parliamentary democracy with a Prime Minister, and the Queen of England as the Head of State. The country became a Republic in April 1970, with an Executive President as the Head of State, and the Parliament as the Legislative body. In contrast to a number of African countries, The Gambia retained a democratic tradition, holding universal adult suffrage elections every 5 years. These elections were contested by a number of parties, again in contrast to the single-party 'democratic' systems that were popular in a variety of African countries. The election system was slightly modified in 1982, with a change to the direct election of the President, rather than indirectly by the Members of Parliament.
The democratic tradition of The Gambia was briefly interrupted in July, 1981 with an abortive attempt to overthrow the government by the then paramilitary Field Force. This attempt was crushed by Senegalese troops, who intervened on the pretext that the coup attempt was foreign inspired, and a threat to the welfare of the Senegalese community in The Gambia. President Jawara was thus restored to power, and in the aftermath of the events, entered into a Conferedation called Senegambia with Senegal. This confederation however, was to be dissolved in September, 1989 following irreconcilable differences between the parties.
A major milestone in The Gambia's political history was the overthrow of the Jawara government in July, 1994, by young, and junior officers of the Gambian military which had been built up by Jawara himself. The military officers, under the leadership of now Captain Yaya Jammeh, alleged rampant corruption and incompetence as the main reason for overthrowing the Jawara government. The military takeover was roundly condemned by the International community, most especially because Jawara had in the almost 30 years of his rule managed to establish an international reputation for adherence to democratic rule and human rights. Following intense pressure from both within The Gambia, and without, the military-led government announced a timetable for transferrring power to civilians in 1996, following a review of the constitution, probes in the wealth of public servants, and elections. The transition program is presently on.
On the economic front, The Gambia has been a primarily agricultural country. An estimated 81% of the population is engaged in agriculture, while groundnuts (peanuts) account for about 85% of export earnings (Country Profile 1993/94: The Gambia, and Mauritania. The Economist Intelligence Unit. 1993). With a trade policy traditionally more liberal than it's neighbours, because of a smaller industrial base to protect, The Gambian economy has always had a brisk re-export sector. Tourism, has been a large component of the service sector, which has accounted for up to 60% of the gross domestic product (GDP).
Despite it's size, The Gambia is relatively densely populated, with a predominantly Muslim population of slightly over 1 million (1993 census figures), and growing at an annual rate of approximately 3%. Major ethnic groups are Fula, Jola, Mandinka, Serahule, and Wollof. The illiteracy rates is very high (73%), and this generally reflects the low Human Development Index (HDI) scores the country has. Thus, for 1992 The Gambias' HDI ranked 173 out of 192 countries. Per capita income, estimated at $360 (US) in 1991 was also amongst the lowest in the world.
Despite the economic poverty and political setbacks, The Gambia has always active in the International arena, being a member of the United Nations, the Organization of African Unity, and the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS). The Gambia has also provided troops to regional peace-keeping efforts, most notably in Liberia, as well as being an active participant in mediation efforts. This strong tradition of peacefulness, and respect for human rights was the reason why the African Center for Democracy and Human Rights Documentation was headquartered in The Gambia.
Given the relatively short but eventful history of The Gambia, it is obvious that fostering debate and dialogue is not only a Gambian tradition, but also particularly important now that the country is embarking on a transition that will lead to a return to civilian and democratic rule. GAMBIA-L hopes to provide another forum for such much needed debate and exchange of ideas.
GAMBIA-L
Developments in communications technology in general, and the Internet in particular has resulted in great opportunities for people in far-flung places in engage in almost instantaneous exchange of ideas. The most popular, and probably most powerful, of these technologies is electronic mail, e-mail for short. It is around this technology that an off-shoot service, mailing lists, have developed.
A few years ago, mailing lists linked people all over the world who had common interests that they wanted to exchange ideas and conduct debates on. The focus of these interest-groups varied from recreational to regional political developments. For example, a number of lists focusing on African and development-oriented issues were formed, and to this day some of them continue to thrive.
With increased access to the Internet, it was going to be long before the interest groups became more specialized. Thus, a variety of specialized, and country-specific groups started cropping up. These mailing lists generally were geared to linking nationals of different countries, as well as Internationalists with particular interest in these countries. Examples of these country-specific mailing lists include SENEGAL-L, and ZAIRE-L.
You can now add GAMBIA-L to that list.
Although GAMBIA-L is only being formed in early 1996, much after a number of lists have left the gates, it has an respectable pedigree based on voluteerism and cooperation. The fact of the matter is that a manual mailing list on Gambian issues has been running for since 1994, following the overthrow of the Jawara government. The time has now come to formalize the list, and thus open opportunities for more people subscribe, thereby enriching the debate.
GAMBIA-L is aimed providing Gambians and those interested in Gambian and related issues, a means to communicate with each other, and exchange ideas and information of common interest. In the process, it is hoped that a spirit of cooperation, of exchange of ideas, of healthy debate and dialogue for the National good will be cultivated. True, ours might the one of the more recent lists, but be sure that we intend to make it one of the very best lists in cyberspace.
To attain the excellence we're talking about, GAMBIA-L will make maximum use of it's #1 ingredient: subscribers. Thus, management of the list will be shared by a number of volunteers, that will be rotated as and when needed. Further, the list will be organized such that all subscribers will be visible to others. We will not habor any concealed subscribers on this list. GAMBIA-L will also provide a rudimentary directory service, based on the requirement that each request for subscription be approved conditional on submission of a brief self-introduction by the applicant. These intros will be archived, and accessible to all list members. For this very reason, each applicant will be expected to have an intro on file, since it's only fair other's have access to theirs, if they're going to be able to obtain info about them.
As alluded to above, subscription to GAMBIA-L will be open, but conditional upon approval by designated list owners. This approval will depend only on applicants submitting a self-introduction to be archived. Subscribers will be expected, and required to maintain a mature, and responsible tone in the contributions they send to the list. Political partisanship is definitely out. Further, slandering and libelling of people will not be accepted, and will result in immediate and permanent loss of subscription.
The main features of GAMBIA-L are as follows:
1. Subscription is open to all, conditional upon submitting a self-introduction to the list 2. Subscribers will get copies of whatever they send to the list 3. Subscribers will be able to get a list of other subscribers, and their e-mail addresses and names 4. Subscribers will NOT be able to conceal their e-mail addresses and names from other subscribers 5. The list will be unmoderated, that is, all contributions will be distributed without intervention 6. The list will be published globally, meaning that it will be added to the global list of lists 7. A sister ARCHIVE will be available to subscribers to enable them retrieve old messages
The above features, and other more mundane ones such as the maximum number of messages to be sent out per day, have been chosen to provide the greatest convenience, security, and use to subscribers. Thus, sending contributors a copy of their submissions will enable them to keep track of debates going on. Also, denying subscribers the option to CONCEAL their subscriptions will ensure that everyone knows everyone on the list, or would if they so choose. This will hopefully allay fears about who is snooping, who isn't.
COMMUNICATING WITH THE LIST
We are sending a file called INFO under separate cover, detailing simple instructions on how to communicate with the mailing list. If you have any further questions, please do not hesistate to contact the list owners, or the list itself. Alternatively, you can also send an e-mail to the following address:
listproc@u.washington.edu
Leave the 'Subject' field empty, and put the word 'help' as your message.
CONCLUSIONS
The above was aimed at providing a brief introductory overview of the purpose, uses, and features of GAMBIA-L. It is hoped that all subscribers to the list will find it most useful, and enjoyable. In addition, it is hoped that the list will provide great opportunities for subscribers to not only get to know new people, and each other more, but also to find it useful in getting information about information. In the end, that is the greatest key to the prosperity of The Gambia.
Finally, all this would come to naught if subscribers do not discharge their responsibilities with diligence. It is absolutely important that an atmosphere of cooperation, collaboration, and mutual respect be created and maintained. That, quite simply, is the only way to ensure that GAMBIA-L grows to be the very best it can be.
On behalf of all subscribers, we would like to welcome you to GAMBIA-L, and wish you a most rewarding experience.
Listowners
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:52:51 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: New members Message-ID: <19970304185103.AAC6474@LOCALNAME>
Gambia-l, Both Matar Njie and Alieu Bittaye have been added to the list and as a custom, we expect to have introductions from them. Welcome to the Gambia-l Matar and Alieu, please send your introductions to the list and we look forward to your contributions.
Best regards Momodou Camara
******************************************************* http://home3.inet.tele.dk/mcamara
**"Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible and suddenly you are doing the impossible"***
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 14:24:36 -0500 (EST) From: Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: New member Message-ID: <01IG3W1SA7B8007YKB@PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Gambia-l: William O'Donnell has just joined our ranks; a formal intro is expected.
Amadou S. J.
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 14:30:07 -0500 (EST) From: Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Deported Malians Revolt Message-ID: <01IG3W8KKAP6007YKB@PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822
Return-path: <owner-africa-l@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU> Received: from PSTCC4.PSTCC.CC.TN.US (PSTCC4.PSTCC.CC.TN.US) by PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US (PMDF V5.0-7 #16797) id <01IG2K4YIEGG0092H9@PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US> for AJANNEH@PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US; Mon, 03 Mar 1997 15:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from listserv.brown.edu by pstcc.cc.tn.us (PMDF V5.0-3 #16797) id <01IG2JVW6EPC8X0BB7@pstcc.cc.tn.us> for AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us; Mon, 03 Mar 1997 15:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stanley.cis.Brown.EDU (stanley.cis.brown.edu [128.148.128.155]) by listserv.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA07525; Mon, 03 Mar 1997 14:50:01 -0500 Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LISTSERV release 1.8b) with NJE id 0846 for AFRICA-L@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU; Mon, 03 Mar 1997 14:46:22 -0500 Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin SMTP@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4703; Mon, 03 Mar 1997 14:46:22 -0500 Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 03 Mar 1997 14:46:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 9899; Mon, 03 Mar 1997 14:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (NJE origin JOSCU@CUNYVM) by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (LMail V1.2c/1.8c) with RFC822 id 2813; Mon, 03 Mar 1997 14:35:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 14:20:44 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Dunkel <JOSCU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Subject: revolt of deported Malians Sender: "FORUM PAN-AFRICA (Peer Distribution List)" <AFRICA-L@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list AFRICA-L <AFRICA-L@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU> Reply-to: "FORUM PAN-AFRICA (Peer Distribution List)" <AFRICA-L@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU> Message-id: <AFRICA-L%97030314462321@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
I realize that this has been a very quiet list, but this story I just couldn't pass passing on.
67 Malian deported from France last Thursday on a charter subsidiary of Air Francd revolted when they reached Bamako; they destroyed part of the airplane and wounded 23 French cops who were guarding them, 5 seriously. It took the intervention of the Malian gendarmerie to put an end to the revolt.
One of Malians told AFP (Agence France Presse) "We did it for revenge. They not only humiliated us in France, but handcuffed us on the flight."
One of them was picked up on Wednesday and deported the next day, without a change to tell his family much less wind up his business in France.
This is the 36'th such expulsion ordered by Jean-Louis Debre, the interior minister of France, since he took office.
Debre was the author of the recent bill on immigration just passed by the National Assembly 100,000 people came out in the streets of Paris last weekend to protest its provisions, which many termed fascist and similar to those in force during the regime of Marshal Petain, the Vichy collaborator of the Nazis.
/greg
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 14:36:20 -0500 From: "William O'Donnell" <billod@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: New member Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970304142930.1507A-100000@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hello, Okay, formal introduction: I am a second year graduate student in African History at Johns Hopkins University under Sara Berry and Philip Curtin. My dissertation is on Liberated African and Jola labor migrants to the British colony at St. Mary's in the 19th century. I've completed some prelim work at the National Archives in Banjul (may-aug 1996) and am currently preparing for 16-20 month of field work in the Gambia and Cassamance. I am unpublished to date but my NP papers include : "Is this not slavery?" : Merchants, Missionaries, and Liberated Africans, The Gambia 1816 - 1836
and most recently : 'Considering Ourselves as Libereated Africans': Community Formation in Early Colonial Gambia (to be presented March 11 at the Institute for Global Studies in Power, Culture and History.)
On a less academic level - i love the beaches, the food, the music, and my Gambian friends. I'm studying Fula and hope to pick up Acco and Jola soon.
cheers bill
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ William O'Donnell Dept. of History The Johns Hopkins University 3400 N. Charles St. Baltimore, MD 21218 http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~billod /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 15:38:11 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: New member Message-ID: <9703042038.AA55534@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
William wrote:
> On a less academic level - i love the beaches, the food, the music, and my > Gambian friends. I'm studying Fula and hope to pick up Acco and Jola > soon.
Welcome to G-L Bill and.... looking forward to your contributions. Maybe we can even speak some Fula sometime :=).
Regards, Moe S. Jallow
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 16:37:00 -0500 From: Ceesay Soffie <Ceesay_Soffie@ems.prc.com> To: "'gambia-l@u.washington.edu'" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Just a tip - Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=PRC%l=CRY1-970304213700Z-707@mcl2.prc.com>
I'm not much in favor of strict memorization, but sometimes, to be on the ball, it becomes necessary. So here is a list of terms and other oddities in computing that IMHO, some of us can use to communicate on the same level. Some of these may seem obvious, so please, don't jump on me if you already know them (just sharing). Internet: * Email and Newsgroups: * Usenet - A big part of the internet (along with Email and the Web), these Newsgroups allow for everyone to interact in thousands of different forums ranging from academics to hobbies to product support. It's like a huge world wide town meeting, where everyone gets to take turns asking questions or making statements. * SPAM - Basically, junk mail and waste of time advertisements through emails and the Usenet. * FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions. A very useful document on whatever topic at hand. * Flame - When someone brutally insults you and/or your ideas. * Waste of Bandwidth - When people reply to messages and include the other person's whole message while themselves only saying a couple of words. In a reply over the internet, especially in newsgroups, it's courteous to trim down enough of the included message to minimize load time while maintaining enough so that people can understand what you're referring to in your reply. Long signatures with quotes that nobody care about is also a waste of bandwidth. One person wasting bandwidth is not a big deal, but imagine if millions of people make this a common practice. The internet is slow enough as it is, with no real relief in the near future, so be courteous to your virtual neighbors. * LD - Long distance. * IMHO - In my humble opinion. * BTW - By the way. * FS - For sale. * WTB - Want to buy. * :) - Various forms of happy faces. These things were once meant to be used to show that you were kidding around. Like if I wrote,"Somebody really messed up your hair today! :)" As you can see, without the happy face, that could have been taken totally differently. Please try to use these things sparingly, because there is an underground movement afoot on the internet against the overuse of happy faces.(You would think more time would be spent fighting the phone companies intent only on their bottom line!!!)
Windows: * Maneuvering: * When activating, it's one-click for a button, two-clicks for an icon. I don't know how many people I've seen get this wrong. It could get you in some trouble if you double-click on a button. * Icon - The little pictures with words underneath it describing what the picture is. You can click once on the icon to select it and drag it around, but you need to double-click on the icon if you want to activate it. * Button - These things appear on toolbars and dialogue boxes. Buttons look like icons except they appear to be three-dimensional (like a real life button). Press only once on a button to activate it. * Minimize - In Windows 3.1, it's the little down-arrow in the upper right corner of the window (underscore in Win95). Minimizing a window only gets it out of the way. It does not reduce the amount of memory used. * Maximize - The up-arrow in Windows 3.1 (square in Win95). The makes the window cover the who area. * Restore - The other state of a window between minimized and maximized. It's flexible and allows you to resize as well as move the window. * Scroll bar - At the right and bottom of a window, it allows you to maneuver around you documents. Clicking on an area of the scroll bar where the solid piece is not would scroll the screen faster than clicking on the arrows at both ends of the scroll bar. Holding on to the solid piece in the scroll bar and dragging it, maneuvers you even faster.
* Types of Windows and menus: * Program Group - In Windows 3.1 and 3.11, a program group is a holder of icons, and it is also itself an icon. Examples of common program groups are: Main, and Accessories. * Dialog Box - These things pop up to make a statement or ask you a question. Usually one will appear to tell you "___ printed" or "Are you sure you want to ___". Dialog boxes usually have an "OK" and/or "Cancel" button inside of it. * Pull-Down Menu - That's what those menus at the top of your applications or the Program Manager are called. * Toolbar - Holds those buttons that appear below the Pull-down menus. Common toolbar buttons are Bold, Italics, and Underline. * Tab - These things look like real tabs on a real folder. They are used to separate common items that you can configure. If you were in MS Word, and you went into "tools" then "options", you'll find a whole bunch of tabs ranging from "General" to "View" to "Spelling". * Taskbar - In Windows 95 and Windows NT 4.0, the taskbar is usually at the bottom of the screen and allows quick access to applications. That way, you won't have to worry about applications and icons that are covered up. Use this to your advantage. * Tool tray - At one end of the taskbar, the tool tray is similar in function to the taskbar except applications are represented by icons instead of buttons with long text. * Start Menu - Big start button in Windows 95 that allows you to get to all installed applications.
The "fly-out" menus are coming
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 17:16:02 -0500 From: Yama Darboe <mdarbo01@shepherd.wvnet.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: new member Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970304221602.0067c598@mail.shepherd.wvnet.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 05:27 PM 3/3/97 -0500, you wrote: >Nyang (Daddy) Njie has been added. Welcome back Daddy. > >LatJor >welcome bck to the g-list daddy
yama
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:10:56 -0500 (EST) From: Musa Sowe <chemsm@panther.Gsu.EDU> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970304190509.25042A-100000@panther.Gsu.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
HELLOW EVERYONE; How about adopting a school or some other institution back home and providing some of the school's needed supplies, text books etc. on an occasional basis? Or does something like that already exist? If so I would like to know about it. If not, who will be interested to start a nucleus to begin to look into the logistics of setting up something. Thanks. Musa
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 23:29:14 -0500 (EST) From: ASJanneh@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Gambian/Malian Businessman jailed Message-ID: <970304232907_1981238193@emout05.mail.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0.10104.emout05.mail.aol.com.857536147"
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This may be of interest to you!
Amadou Scattred Janneh
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MIAMI (Reuter) - A Gambian businessman who bribed a U.S. customs ag= ent in a bid to ship two military helicopters to Gambia was sentenced Tue= sday to eight months incarceration and fined $250,000 by a Miami judge. =
=0D Foutange Dit Babani Sissoko, head of Negoce International, had pleade= d guilty in January to making illegal payments. =
=0D Three business associates were also given fines and custodial sentenc= es. =
=0D The U.S. Attorney's Office said Negoce International purchased two Be= ll TH-IF helicopters in Miami but failed to have the necessary State Dep= artment approval and licences to export them. =
=0D Customs agents seized the helicopters in Miami after the company trie= d to ship them out. Serge Comminges, a French senior vice-president of Ne= goce International, and Moumouni Dieguimde, a Gambian, paid a customs age= nt part of a bribe in exchange for releasing the helicopters. =
=0D Negoce International office manager Mariama Darboe, also from Gambia,= later made a second payment, the Attorney's Office said. =
=0D Judge Michael Moore sentenced Sissoko to eight months incarceration -= - four months in jail and four under house arrest -- and a $250,000 fine.= =
=0D Comminges was given four-and-a-half months in jail and a $5,000 fine,= Dieguimde four months in jail and a $5,000 fine, and Darboe was sentence= d to four months house arrest and three years probation. Negoce was also = fined $50,000. =
=0D The four men have been free on bond since they were first charged las= t August and must surrender to the authorities to begin their sentences. =
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17:47 03-04-97 =0D
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 21:52:21 -0800 (PST) From: Latir Downes-Thomas <latir@earthlink.net> To: gambia-l <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Channel Africa News Brief. Message-ID: <857552061@mail.earthlink.net>
The following is a news brief (that I transcribed) from SABC Channel Africa's "Dateline Africa" radio news programme.
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Gambia's opposition chief Ouseinou Darboe says police have arrested four of his followers after breaking up a welcoming party at his home.
Mr. Darboe said police beat up his supporters who welcomed him at Banjul airport on his return from Botswana and who then traveled in a procession of vehicles for a party at his residence.
Mr Darboe, who is leader of the United Democratic Party in Gambia, said the four arrested men were held at the Kombo police station outside Banjul.
No police comment was immediately available and it was not clear if the procession had been authorized.
Mr Darboe, a prominent lawyer, was a civilian candidate in Gambia's presidential elections last year. [Channel Africa, 4 March 1997]
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If you have a web browser with RealAudio sound, you can listen to most the daily broadcast of "Dateline Africa" at:
http://www.wrn.org/stations/africa.html
You can also read the programme headlines at the Channel Africa home page:
http://www.sabc.co.za/units/chanafr/index.html
Peace.
Lat
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:28:31 +0000 From: "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: do what you like Message-ID: <199703051025.KAA08140@netmail.city.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
malanding , or whatever your name is , may i respectfully tell you that none of the comments that i made are libellous or slanderous. it appears to me that people like you don't want to be told the truth . you just want to do things as it pleases you and don't care about other peoples feelings , well i'm sorry i'm not the sort of person who would tolerate that . if anything comes to my mind and i feel i have to do or say something about it , i will do exactly that at whatever expense.
people like you don't want anybody to challenge you in whatever you do or say even when wrong, you don't want to be criticised all that you want is "PRAISES, PRAISES, PRAISES" . when on earth will you know where things are going wrong for you if all that you get is praises.
now as far as views and opinions are concerned , i will continue to express them the way i see them and the way any other reasonable and prudent man would . the only way you can stop me from doing so on the net is to "U-N-S-U-B-S-C-R-I-B-E me and to tell you the truth I JUST DON'T CARE AND I'M NOT THE LEAST BOTHERED WHEN YOU DO .
It just shows how unrealistic, unreasonable and insincere some people can be. what is wrong with someone expressing his or her points of view or opinion. a criticism is not supposed to make one happy and all laughters , it is supposed to make one react and swept one of his or her feet not with delight but with devastation . A criticism is meant to make something a better person because it makes one think and work harder UNLESS ONE HAS A VERY PERSONALITY WHICH SEEM TO BE THE CASE HERE .
once again i will not stop expressing my opinions simply because you said so, if you like you can unsubscribe. that is that.
M'BAI OMAR F.
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 22:25:41 JST +900 From: binta@iuj.ac.jp To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Fwd: The Lord's Prayer in Ebonics (fwd) Message-ID: <199703051325.WAA21853@mlsv.iuj.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1560502--279565594-78138:#1936982016"
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Without prejudice!
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With the proliferation of so many modern translations of the Bible (viz.Klingon) and many with questionable Biblical scholarship. I feel that it is only a matter of time that some one would feel compelled (it could even be the 42nd St. Israelites) to translate the Bible into Ebonics.
Here is a head start for them.
EBONICS ENGLISH
Big Daddy's Rap The Lord's Prayer
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:41:30 +0100 (MET) From: Olafiaklinikken Olafia <olafia@online.no> To: <Gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: RE: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Let=B4s?= move on & Proposal/Food for thought Message-ID: <199703051341.OAA06116@online.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Concern, Engagement; Commitment, Willingness, and all that is positive to a safer and better social agreement.
Amadou Scattered Janneh wrote please let=B4s move on to issues such as: improving the health care of The Gambia. Amadou this issue of health care in The Gambia have i taken up on numerous occasions but it was not pursued on the net as a necessity in our motherland. There we many excuses like I don= =B4t know much about health. But the signs of symtoms always worrird us to rush to the doctor. As i can see the matter is that we are living in the west and have access to a sophisticated health system then we are independent.
Musa Sowe wrote about adopting a school, class or buying school materials. Moses this also have i written about but to no avail. It seems to me that people see this issues more or less as state affairs like goverment issue. Even in the so called civilised west people do adopt school children, schools and donating books. Musa concerning looking up into the logistics of setting up something have i taken up earlier seriously but no response.
I gave significant and concrete example how to go forward. I went so far as proposing a network or forum which will be assisted by Gambia-l. But the sound of the ringing bell was not heard. I gave examples of primary and chronic communicable diseases/infections which we can do something about if we are really concern and dedicated. As for me whether or not people are engaged as a team or individuals i will still continue my contributions towards health and education in The Gambia.
Musa and Amadou Scattered I hoped you have read the numerous issues on this topics i wrote earlier.
I sincerely hope that with the PLEASE Amadou Scattered Janneh started his appeal will trigger an awakening of enquiry among us.
With kind regards
OMAR S. SAHO, CONSULTANT ULLEVAAL UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL DEPT FOR STD & HIV pOSTUTTAK GRONLAND P.K. N-0133 OSLO NORWAY
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:04:33 -0500 From: Ellen Lewis <elewis@acvb.com> To: "'gambia-l@u.washington.edu'" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Intoduction Message-ID: <01BC2944.407BC760@elewis.acvb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings,
I would like to introduce myself as a new member to the group. I am = presently residing in Atlanta and working as an accountant for The = Atlanta Convention Bureau. I had my undergraduate degree in 1985 from = SUNY - Oneonta (upstate New York). =20
I am aspiring to pursue a doctorate degree at Cornell University or an = MBA program at Fuqua Duke University this fall 1997.
I am glad to be part of the group and hope to contribute to the forum = shortly.
Ellen Mahoney Lewis
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:38:22 + 0100 MET From: "ALPHA ROBINSON" <garob1@cip.hx.uni-paderborn.de> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: polygamy, violence, troublemakers ... Message-ID: <46A6A795EA2@cip.hx.uni-paderborn.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable
Hi Du,
Das hier ist eine Friedensnachricht (keine Violence, keine Troublemakers . Ich konnte gestern kein Mail schreiben, weil die Verbindung irgenwie nicht stimmte. Nun ist das Bill Gates. Ich sa=DF stunden lang hier um meine Mails los zu werden. Die Finger tun schon weh. ueber 1000 mails waren es! So wie geht es Dir denn? Also, ich bin immmer noch auf die Suche nach einem Auto. Den Renault habe ich doch nich genommen. Mein Herz klopft jetz fue ein Toyota in Hamburg. Ich glaube den nehme ich. Kein Lust mehr. Ich melde mich demnaechst. Ich finde deine Mails toll. Du sollst Dir echt ueberlegen, ob das Schreiben doch nich dein Ding ist. Irgendwie denke ich doch.
La=DF es Dir gut gehen.
Gruesse Alpha
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:28:48 -0500 (EST) From: EThomas246@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Intoduction Message-ID: <970305112848_-1004248287@emout11.mail.aol.com>
hello group: I introduce myself as a Gambia currently residing in Atlanta,GA. I am currently working as a major account rep for AT&T and had my undergraduate degree in Economics and international business. I plan to pursue a master in Management Of Technology. I do a lot of desktop publishing, projects and so forth, web pages as well. I do currently have one under construction and will let you know when I get through. It is nice to have this thing going on and maybe we can have an address in the future for direct online correspondence. Thanks for having me, Essa Thomas
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:29:04 -0500 From: Ceesay Soffie <Ceesay_Soffie@ems.prc.com> To: "'gambia-l@u.washington.edu'" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: RE: polygamy, violence, troublemakers ... Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=PRC%l=CRY1-970305162904Z-1117@mcl2.prc.com>
TRANSLATE, PLEASE.
SOFFIE.
>---------- >From: ALPHA ROBINSON[SMTP:garob1@cip.hx.uni-paderborn.de] >Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 1997 11:38AM >To: GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List >Subject: Re: polygamy, violence, troublemakers ... > >Hi Du, > >Das hier ist eine Friedensnachricht (keine Violence, keine >Troublemakers .
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:46:31 GMT From: "A BITTAYE" <mae96ab@wye.ac.uk> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Self introduction Message-ID: <21861615C15@lister.wye.ac.uk>
My apologies goes to all those who have been patiently waiting this self introductory courier since I was welcome to the group.
I am a postgraduate student at Wye College, University of London. I am pursuing an MSc. course in Agricultural Economics, specializing in environment economics but as well interested in agricultural development. My thesis is focused on the socio-economic and environmental impact of new Technology uptake by Gambian farmers.
Back at home, am an researcher by profession; working with the department of agricultural research But as well, am very much interested and involved in community development through youth organizations.
Sports, (soccer in particular), listening to music are some of my hobbies. However, I prefer and enjoy spending my leisure periods 'SOCIALIZING'.........But anything good will do for me.
Thanks!!!! Bittaye.
................................................................................ ALIEU BITTAYE MCR WYE COLLEGE WYE, ASHFORD, KENT TN25 5AH UK.
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 03:02:02 JST +900 From: binta@iuj.ac.jp To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Self introduction Message-ID: <199703051802.DAA25049@mlsv.iuj.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Bittaye,
Welcome to the List. Soon you will realise that you have joined an interesting group. Your views on our country's agricultural situation and the road ahead will be most welcome.
Lamin Drammeh.
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 17:15:24 -0500 From: latir@earthlink.net (Lat) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: FWD: Female Genital Mutilation: Sources of Information Message-ID: <MPG.d87ba88d3e2cfaa11e1a301@mail.earthlink.net>
This message is forwarded from the newsgroup "soc.culture.african".
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Subject: Female Genital Mutilation: Sources of Information From: qsmd@datasync.com (John Erickson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:42:46 +0800 (SGT) From: Senessie Turay <9210077@talabah.iiu.my> To: gambia-l <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: MOMODOU CAMARA Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.970306093427.13146B-100000@talabah.iiu.my> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Could you please add Mwanaidi Sonya Abdulla to the list. (9420057@talabah.iiu.my) Thanks a lot and have a nice day. Sanusi.
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:26:53 -0500 (EST) From: MJagana@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT Message-ID: <970305202057_686108701@emout14.mail.aol.com>
Dear Gambia lers,
Musa Sowe has come with a point that is really worth discussing and arguing about.
momodou jagana
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:33:20 -0500 (EST) From: KBadjie338@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: MOMODOU CAMARA Message-ID: <970305233316_-2108637256@emout10.mail.aol.com>
Sanusi i have replied Isatou her e- mail but she never returned back my mail, would you kindly inform her for me to check her mails please or let her just send me a notification of receipt of my mails.
kawsu
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:52:26 -0800 From: sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: New Member Message-ID: <199703060452.UAA14203@thesky.incog.com>
All,
Mwanaidi Sonya Abdulla has been added to the list. Welcome aboard and please send in your intro to the list.
Sarian
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 97 21:44:07 PST From: MAKE THAT VISION A REALITY <ABARROW@rr5.rr.intel.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: ISSUE OF PRIVATE MAILS Message-ID: <9703060544.utk1496@RR5.intel.com>
'TRUTH IS AN OFFENSE BUT NOT A SIN....." The Late Bob Marley
I have been following the issue of sending private mails to the list and I felt this needs our immediate attention. It seems as we are shy from addressing the truth and that is hypocritical.
After reading the sending "do what you like" from Omar F. M'bai, in respond to Malanding's posting to address the issue, I felt obligated to throw in my views. Organisation are governed by rules and in every organistion there are people assigned to the execution of those rules and duties. Mr M'bai had label Malanding "people like you" as I have followed in another prevoius postings of his and he called upon Amadou to apologise the list members. I strongly believed that If Mr M'bai really stood for what he advocate, he would not have written the posting "do what you like". The critisms in those posting are more confrontaional than constructive. When we critize, we critize so that an opponent can learned from our critisms. Mr. M'bai on the other hand critized and speaks of advocating freedom of speach and yet, he does't want to come in consesus with the list's demand. He could have approach this issue in matured manner than asking the list managers to "do what you like" manner.
All that Malanding is asking for, is for you to do abide by the rules of our List. Evidently that what you suggested to Scattered base on your own perspective of the issue, which could very well be narrow.
On your defense, I would say the rules of the list need to be available to every new subscriber. Subsribers can base their arguments on being ignorant about the Ground Rules of the organisation. I was just about to write to list proposing that we have Ground Rules that everyone have to abide by, or face with whatever the rules say. I just learned that there are Ground Rules already in place today.
On the other hand, the issue of sending private messages has been brought up quite a number of times for someone to be ignorant about it .I still have the file from that Omar Camara send on the 8th of February, that contains the names of all open list members and their e-mail addresses. So there is no excuses for overfloading people's mails with what Amadou Scattered considered "irrelevant mails". And I strongly agree with him, for the fact that, it is irrelevant to me and him and the rest of the list. I am sorry if that offend you, but it is the truth.
The issue of not sending private mail to the list is pretty simple to understand. Some of us have to go out-of-state for couple of days and sometimes weeks, 'cause our jobs require us to. And if private mails, that are irrelevant whatsoever to me and my mail reaches its maximum capacity, I will definately loose or not receive some mails that are more important to me than a private mail that doesn't concerned me.
So I you would come to your terms with list and apologised if thats what you are both of you and Tamsir need to do to have a win-win situation.
Accept when you are wrong!
With much Respect to every one!
Pa-Abdou Barrow Albuquerque
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:18:59 -0800 (PST) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Forwarded news story Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970305231053.21137C-100000@saul6.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Nigeria-Gambia : Gambian president leaves Nigeria
ABUJA, March 1 (AFP) - Gambian President Yahya Jammeh left here Saturday at the end of a 24-hour official visit to Nigeria during which he held talks with the Nigerian head of state, General Sani Abacha, a reliable source said here.
Bilateral, sub-regional and continental issues of interest to the two countries were discussed during the talks, which were held behind closeddoors, the source said.
The forthcoming elections in Liberia were one of the issues discussed by the two leaders, said the source.
General Abacha gave a private dinner here late Friday in honour of his guest, the source said.
In another development, General Abacha Friday received the letters of credence of three new ambassadors accredited to Nigeria.
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Anthony W Loum tloum@u.washington.edu Supervisor, Business Administration Library 206-543-4360 voice 100 Balmer Hall 206-685-9392 fax University of Washington Box 353200 Seattle, Wa.98195-3200 =========================================================================
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:24:39 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Africa: How bad is it? Message-ID: <9703060924.AA26400@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Listmembers,
First, I would like to welcome all the new members to G-L. I hope that you will contribute to the list by participating in ongoing discussions about Gambia and Africa in general. With the number of members that we now have on this list, I believe that we can achieve the common goals of bringing forth any issues that requires discussing for the benefit of all.
Having said that, I would like introduce a new discussion topic to the list. My analysis may sound too harsh to the African ear but if the truth is to be accepted, it must be told first.
To begin, I would like to ask you some pertinent questions about Africa: Why are our societies so unsatable? What are the reasons behind widespread poverty, deprivation, exploitation and oppression in our societies? Why are corruption, bribery and violent conflict so rampant in our societies? Why is the control of authority in our societies in the hands of individuals, parties or groups that have absolutely no integrity. Should we place the blame for all these on Africa...or is it because of these problems that Africa is failing?
I think that it would be very unwise and dangerous to ignore our wordly problems and cherish our success in life (wherever we are) by attributing these problems to destiny. Yet, if we are to deal with the problems mentioned above, it is vitally important that we undersatnd the legacy of European colonialism and corruption, which I cannot seem to separate.
When the talk turns to corruption though, then atleast we are moving closer to home. But as professor Grotnes once noted, there is also corruption everywhere else in the world . Asia's Indonesia,for example, is the world's most corrupt country but it has managed to reduce poverty more than any other developing country in the world. What about South Korea's former president who has been jailed for taking bribes from buisnessmen?
What roles do our tribalistic and liguistic differences have to play in Africa's despair? Nothing, if you ask me. Once again let's take Indonesia as an example: Here is a group of scattered Islands comprising more than 360 tribes and ethnic groups with a mix of languages and religions. This country has managed to eradicate poverty as fast as any other country in the world despite its diversity. How about the question of Natural resources? For example, In the Gambia, we love to cry foul about the lack of Natural resources. Once again, let's turn our eyes to tiny Singapore, where a country...a tiny Island with almost no resources is proud to have one of the most successful economies in the world.
So what's the problem with the African continent? First, they were colonized, became independent, countries' names were Africanized and power was simply passed from the white colonial dictator to the black one. What are the results? Almost no change! There is still repression, brutality and suffering.
Now, let's ask ourselves some final questions: Considering that both Africa and most of Asia were colonized at about the same time, what are the reasons behind Asia's success while Africa is still fighting to regain itself? Why is Asia the model for economic success while Africa is buried with poverty and hunger? Why is the Asian student using a computer to access the internet while the African student is still using the slate and blackboard in the classroom? Why are the Asian leaders finding ways to ease trade barriers while the Africans are killing each for no other reason than they belonged to the wrong tribe.
I keep wondering: Are we just lazy or do we bear the curse of illiteracy?
Regards, Moe S. Jallow ============================================================================== mjallow@sct.edu mjallow@hayes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:32:20 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Forwarded news story Message-ID: <9703060932.AA24512@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Forwarded message reads:
> Nigeria-Gambia : Gambian president leaves Nigeria > > ABUJA, March 1 (AFP) - Gambian President Yahya Jammeh left here > Saturday at the end of a 24-hour official visit to Nigeria > during which he held talks with the Nigerian head of state, General Sani > Abacha, a reliable source said here. > > In another development, General Abacha Friday received the > letters of credence of three new ambassadors accredited to Nigeria. > > Nigeria-Gambia : Gambian president leaves Nigeria > > ABUJA, March 1 (AFP) - Gambian President Yahya Jammeh left here > Saturday at the end of a 24-hour official visit to Nigeria > during which he held talks with the Nigerian head of state, General Sani > Abacha, a reliable source said here. > > In another development, General Abacha Friday received the > letters of credence of three new ambassadors accredited to Nigeria.
Here we go again! I am sick of Nigeria and its dictators. Greed, corruption and murder have been Abacha's backbone for all these years. Here is a country that is making its wealth from Europeans..i.e SHELL OIL company, and enriching itself whilst destroying its own people. This is a country that is an example of Africa's ailments due to corruption.
There is SHELL OIL, a European company that is looting the country and dumping chemicals everywhere due to the lack of environmental protection plans. Nigeria is covered with all kinds of harzadous chemicals while Abacha and his cronies fill up their pockets with their Swiss bank accounts. At the other end we have the United States, a country that imports 89% of Nigeria's oil, and has refused to impose sanctions on Abacha and his followers because some minority firms are taking Nigerian lobbying money and keeping the US government from leading sanctions effort against the dictator. At one time Nigeria was a model for All of Africa, now it is just another example.
What about Saro Wiwa, who was executed, and 19 of his followers imprisoned for no apparent reasons except that they belonged to the wrong tribe? Why are black men killing black men so that a white company can pump oil which is shipped to the United States so that we (the drivers) can sit in traffic at rush hour, one person to a car? Given that lobbyists have been able to buy off western sactions to this point, will threats of sanctions against Abacha mean anything?
Where is Bill Clinton & Jesse Jackson when you need them?.... Or is this a situation that the African has to deal with?
Regards, Moe S. Jallow
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:18:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: msjaiteh@mtu.edu (Malanding S. Jaiteh) Subject: Re: Africa: How bad is it? Message-ID: <199703061518.KAA07446@oak.ffr.mtu.edu> Content-Type: text
Moe, I hope it would not be too ambitious to deal with all of Africa's problem from our limited position.
In response to what is so unique to Africa that other colonized countries do not have. I think is two things. Developed human resources and heterogeinity. Also I feel that we are too soon in judging Africa. Others may say that its been 40 yrs since independence. I believe that 40 yrs isn't enough to change societies. It is barely more than 100 yrs since the scramble for Africa and the creation of these entities call countries. It is during this period that the old power houses of the contitinent were unceremoneously dismantled. Nations with established systems of governance were destroyed and re-packaged into so-called countries for the convenience of the colonizers. The most disloyalled groups (often the most powerful) marginalized themselves through non-compliance with the colonizers and not adopting their ways or were marginalized because they were 'babaric and war-like'. Coming out of such a chaos with vivid memories of how ones group were forced out just to be succeeded by a 'non-traditional' ruling group, it was not difficult for Africans to go back to the politics of groups after start of self rule.
The 'boxing' of the many traditionally different peoples/nations into countries, in which they do not only had to assume a new identity, but also new ways of live and value systems have made this issue of development more difficult. The same is true for countries in Europe. It took the United Kingdom several hundred yrs to come to this stage. Yet you would not know how far away they are from that dream when you live in Wales or Scotland. Other examples are still found in Belgium Switzerland, Spain where ethnic differences remained even after centuries of nationhood. I wonder how long it will take European Union to realize their dream of Federal Europe?
The next point I would make here is the human resources. Africa or Gambia for that matter still needs to develop her human resources. Until every Gambian sees education as a way of live and not some means of making money off the government we will not have a developed human resources sector. A well-educated populace is both necessary for economic developent as well as preventing the rise of dictators in democratic setting. Looking at Asian countries many have attained over 80% literacy rate. Many Africa countries are struggling to achieve 20%. I do not know about Gambian figure but could be much less even if you take high school education level. With that type of literacy we would not be able to effectively maintain a land Rover if we buy it. I use land rover because its one of the oldest vehecles in the gambia and I am yet to find more than two people who can maintain it with 7 days waranttee or your money back!
I must go now.
malanding
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:18:15 -0000 From: "omar" <omar@avana.net> To: <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Self intruduction. Message-ID: <199703061518.KAA17946@tiger.avana.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello my fellow Gambians, I connot express in words how happy I am to be a member of banta-ba.I think banta-ba is a real good thing that could happen for all. My name is Omar Manjang, currently residing in Atlanta Ga. This name would not be strange to some of you like Dr Amadou Janneh,Mafy Jarju etc.I am a student at Devry Institute. I was born in Gunjur ,kombo south.Attended Gunjur primary school then St Augustine high shool from 1981 to 1985.
If this name ring a bell please do not hesitate to contact me at omar@avana.net.
Thanks to all.
Oma.
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:52:14 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Help!! Message-ID: <9703061552.AA43340@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi,
Could any member provide me with the address and phone number of the Gambian Embassy in Saudi Arabia?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Regards, Moe S. Jallow
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Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 12:04:28 -0500 (EST) From: Ousman Gajigo <gajigoo@wabash.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Forwarded news story Message-ID: <8A0EFA3AB6@scholar.wabash.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
>There is SHELL OIL, a European company that is looting the country and >dumping chemicals everywhere due to the lack of environmental >protection plans. Nigeria is covered with all kinds of harzadous >chemicals while Abacha and his cronies fill up their pockets with >their Swiss bank accounts.
None of the blame should go to Shell Oil. The only group of people who deserve 100% of the blame is the corrupt Nigerian military leaders who irresponsibly squander their country's wealth. Shell Oil is just taking advantage of the Nigerian junta's traitorous activities. It is a company looking for a minimum cost at max. profit and if the Nigerian leaders created that suitable atmosphere for them, I see no reason to blame Shell. The junta is the looter, because they have the responsibility to safeguard their country's interest.
>Where is Bill Clinton & Jesse Jackson when you need them?.... Or is >this a situation that the African has to deal with?
We don't need Bill Clinton and Jesse Jackson. You are right, this IS an African problem and unless we make it ours and take responsibility, it is going to stay here for a long time.
Ousman
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:16:59 -0400 (AST) From: "Inqs." <nfaal@is2.dal.ca> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Africa: How bad is it? Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.970306130701.186324C-100000@is2.dal.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I think the problems of Africa stem primarily from the fact that we don't seem to understand that personal interests and public ones need not be mutually exclusive. We are too busy trying to fufill our individual wants and needs, at any cost, which usually turns out to be the development of our nations, as is so aptly demonstrated in our leadership. We are missing the connection between national development and a higher standard of living (and i'm using the western measure of living standard), because like it or not that is what the majority is aiming for. Rome was not built in a day all well and good, but we had better START building rather than tearing down the little we have. Colonialism, racism, exclusion from the world market, 'false' nations, are all the legacy of our history. Its sad to say, but ISN'T IT TIME WE MOVED ON? We can't change the past, and it affects the present, but the future is ours to mold. We may have below-standard raw materials. but that's what we have, LETS WORK WITH IT!!!! Nkoyo.
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:21:20 -0500 (EST) From: ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: FWDing Intro Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.970306122042.17993B-100000@terve.cc.columbia.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi, my name is Ebrima Jawara, I am a finalist at Reading University, studying agricultural economics. I found out about the mailing list today, and would appreciate it if I could be included in it. Hope to hear from you sometime soon.
Ebrima Jawara.
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Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 15:05:47 -0600 (CST) From: JAWARAMB@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Africa-How bad is it ? Message-ID: <01IG6KAZYZB68WWVU7@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
It's spring break over here at Vanderbilt, as a consequence, I have time to share my thoughts on this very intriquing questions raised by Moe Jallow about Africa. Africa is now a continent which cannot feed itself, meet its external financial obligation or the bill for its essential imports, protect its increasing population, prevent environmental degradation, or exert any meaningful influence in the international decition-making process....A subatantial number of Africancountries are now in danger of national disintegration, including some which as recently as the late 1980s, were held up as success stories (cited in Africa Recovery, june 1995; p.8) Sierra Leone is a microcosm of what is occuring, albeit in a more tempered and gradual manner, throughout West Africa and much of the underdeveloped World: the withering away of central governments the rise of tribal and regional domains, the uncheched spread of disease, and growing pervasiveness of war. West Africa according to Robert Kaplan, is reverting to the Africa of the victorian atlas. Nigeria, the comatose giant of Africa, may go down in history as the biggest country ever to go directly from colonial subjugation to complete collapse, without an intervening period of successful self-rule. So much promise, so much waste; such a disappointment. Such a shame. Makes you sick. Nigeria is a disaster by all account. The statistics on Africa's postcolonial development record are horrifying. Sub-Saharan Africa is wracked by never-ending civil wars, carnage, chaos and instability. Since the mid-1980s, economies in this region have been collapsing with deafening staccato while other parts of the third world have been making some progress.Between 1980 and 1989, for exaple, black Africa's real GDP per capita contracted by an average 1.2 percent while East Asia grew by 6.2 percent and South Asia by 3.0 percent. This contaction continued into the 1990s.... only God knows when it will bottom out. It's projected folks, in less than four years from now by the year 2000 to be exact, more than 304 million of Africa's 700 million population will live in abject poverty. Malnutrition is rife. Infrastructure has crumbled in many African countries. Telephone don't work; they bite back. Roads, schools and hospitals are in complete state of disrepair. In addition, civil war ,political instability, carnage, banditry and naked corruption pervade the continent. As one Ghanaian journalist put, if God is to visit earth, he wouldn't go to Ghana because of corruption. I might add that Nigeria would not be mentioned to him atall. Some schools of thought have it that Africa's problems originated from two defective systems established in the post-colonial period by African leaders: SULTANISM and STATISM. Sultanism or personal rule isn the monopolization of political power by one individual, the grotesgue forms being "president-for- life" and military dictatorship. By statism is meant state hegemony in the economy and the direction of economic activity or development by the state through such devices as price controls, legistative acts, regulations, ownership of the means of production and operation of state enterprises. The statist behemoth, with wide-ranging powers, is backed by a coercive military and judicial force.Its two distinguishing features that are pertinent to development are its political and economic systems, which are themselves characterized by the concentration of enormous powers in the lands of the state and ultimately one individual. Some believe that ideology is not particularly relevant in the analysis of Africa's crisis. Most regimes, regardless of their professed ideology, have been statist....(Do you agree????). On a sombre reference, the economic and political systems established in the post-colonial Africa gradually evolved into a mafia state with its own internal logic and ethic. This monstrocity is neither "colonial" nor "indigenous African". The colonial state structure benefited the European powers while the current systems benefit the ruling elites, a tiny minority...an "elite apartheid". In country after country in Africa, the story has been the same :The monopolization of both economic and political power by a tiny group, which uses its governing authority to extract resources from the peasantry and spend it to enrich itself and in conspicuos consumption. All others, the majority, were excluded......THE POLITICS OF EXCLUSION. Coups d'etat are generally the option to correct Afriac's never ending problems.The truth of the matter is that coups compound the probems to exponential proportions. Nkrummah writing in Conakry after he was ignominiously been ousted from power asserted that "then very nature of the politico-economic relationship between neocolonialism and puppet regimes in a Balkanised Africa means that coups d'etatwill continue to take place in Africa untill the political unification of the African continent is achieved." I will be the first to argue that this idea, as fantastic as it may sound, it's not feasible. There are dire consequences for all of us in the plight of Africa....and we must debate for solutions just for the sake of debating (these problems are beyond this medium). Finally, let me anchore this essay with a point or two about The Gambia. This will be some news to you that not too long ago I attended a meeting at the World Bank where it was disclosed that , the Gambia government had requested or sought the assistance of the Bank to probe into the INTERNATIONAL ACCOUNTS of the former regime, the Bank consented to the request upon condition that it will include the members of the current regime as well. The Gambia government withdrew their request insisting that the accountability probe should not include the current regime....a devastating proof of a corrupt juggernaut. On the issue of the subversion, destruction and demolition of the constitution of the land by Jammeh...a document he literally dictated is an eloquent testimony that in the Gambia we are not only dealing with a corrupt regime but a MAD-LEADER. We must support Ousainou Darbo and others who are standing up for the future of The Gambia against the evil our country is bedevil.
REASONABLE LIST MEMBERS-LET US BE TRUE TO OUR PURPOSE AND SAVE THE GAMBIA FROM UTTER RUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU FOR READING THROUGH,
MUSA BASSADI. VANDERBILY.
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:29:40 +0900 (JST) From: binta@iuj.ac.jp To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Africa-How bad is it ? Message-ID: <199703070222.LAA15187@mlsv.iuj.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Gambia-l,
Recounting Africa's problems is of course the first stage to finding solutions to them. Musa Jawara, among others, has eloquently enumerated the problems of the sub-continent. The word sub-continent used with intent to highlight the wedge that already exists in our continent---Arab-Africa and sub-Sahara Africa! The detractors use it and we follow them. Is the use a distinction of wealth or colour?
Aren't we getting tired of narration upon narration telling us about Africa's problems without the necessary prescriptions. The problems are well known to all of us; the solutions, on the other hand, always elude us. What can be done to salvage the continent? Highly theoretical and schoolboy ideas of how to go about it must now be left behind while we start looking at ourselves. To me, Africa's problems are a problem of the self despite all our talk about communalism. The socialisation process has become extremely flawed, an understanding of our societies a thing we do not want to engage in. Our education is seen by us only as a means to make a good living, not much as how to upgrade the nation. In such a situation, personal greed overrides communal development.
As a suggestion, let us start with ourselves. Ask what have I done for my community given my abilities? Better still, what do I really want to do for my community? To my mind, such a self-evaluation is the first step to a better Africa. To acquire knowledge and stay away abroad is a personal decision, however, that arduous task of nation- building will always await us. Foreign people, nations and NGOs can never do that for us. Talking about a non-conducive environment in Africa is a rational thing to do, but change must come only from within.
I anticipate differing views. In any case, 'the more, the merrier'.
Lamin.
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Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 21:51:45 -0500 From: "PA-MAMBUNA O. BOJANG" <paomar@iglou.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Self intruduction. Message-ID: <331F82C1.2C71@iglou.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Omar Manjang, welcome to the family of Gambia-l. Feel free to express your views anytime.
Pa Mambuna Lexington.
omar wrote: > > Hello my fellow Gambians, > I connot express in words how happy I am to be a member > of banta-ba.I think banta-ba is a real good thing that could > happen for all. > My name is Omar Manjang, currently residing in Atlanta Ga. > This name would not be strange to some of you like Dr > Amadou Janneh,Mafy Jarju etc.I am a student at Devry Institute. > I was born in Gunjur ,kombo south.Attended Gunjur primary > school then St Augustine high shool from 1981 to 1985. > > If this name ring a bell please do not hesitate to contact me at > omar@avana.net. > > Thanks to all. > > Oma.
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Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 20:52:52 +0800 (SGT) From: Muwanaidi Syonya Abdalla <9420057@talabah.iiu.my> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: INTRODUCTION! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.970306204222.444A-100000@talabah.iiu.my> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
HELLO EVERYONE......... MY NAME IS MWANAIDI, I AM A STUDENT AT INTERNATIONAL ISLAMIC UNIVERSITY MALAYSIA.I'M HAPPY TO JOIN THE LIST AND LOOKING FORWARD TO LEARN MORE FROM MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
THANKS M'IDI.
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Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 10:29:33 +0100 From: Abdou Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Africa: How bad is it? Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970307092933.0068f94c@golf.uib.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 13:16 06.03.97 -0400, NKOYO wrote: > I think the problems of Africa stem primarily from the fact that >we don't seem to understand that personal interests and public ones need >not be mutually exclusive. We are too busy trying to fufill our >individual wants and needs, at any cost, which usually turns out to be the >development of our nations, as is so aptly demonstrated in our leadership.
NKOYO! This is so very true, only less elaborate. Not only our leadership should be held accounted for "personal interest" but some "ordinary people" too. Say in our case (Gambia), when one's family member is in high office and puts personal interest above national interest, that is "OK" for the family members. In fact it's not just OK but "things are going quite perfect". Here goes a common saying: "RAACHA TAYE SA KANAM" ("SCRAP AND PASTE BY YOUR SIDE"). In most cases, only when one has lost all those privileges, that is when one sees what is going wrong. Our leaders can't be held entirely responsible, our individual morals have a mutual role too.
MUSA JAWARA wrote:
"We must support Ousainou Darbo and others who are standing up for the future of The Gambia against the evil our country is bedevil.
REASONABLE LIST MEMBERS-LET US BE TRUE TO OUR PURPOSE AND SAVE THE GAMBIA FROM UTTER RUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Here we go.... MR. JAWARA, comparing the former and present regimes, where was our country heading to under the former regime with it's long years (30 yrs.) of leadership? I must say that you must have been blind to see at that time that our country was not only going into "UTTER RUINS" but was already in "UTTER RUINS". As NKOYO puts it, "personal interests and public ones need not be mutually exclusive". I suggest you redefine the two for yourself first, face the reality and accept it second, and then a major step will be taken towards what you would "like" to see happen in our country.
NOTHING "PERSONAL" BUT "NATIONAL"
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Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 13:32:53 +0100 From: Buba Njie <Buba.Njie@econ.uib.no> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Introduction Message-ID: <2.2.16.19970307123253.36f704a4@hermes.svf.uib.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hello fellow brothers and sisters,
I've finally managed to set aside time to introduce myself to the net. My name is Buba Njie and I'm a graduate student in Economics at the University of Bergen, Norway. At the moment, I writing my desertation on Privatization of State owned Enterprices in the Gambia and have resently arrived foron a field trip in the Gambia My interests varies from developmental to social issues and I hope to contribute to the net soon.
Best regards
Buba Njie
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:03:33 +0000 From: "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> To: "GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu>, gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: ISSUE OF PRIVATE MAILS Message-ID: <199703071300.NAA27268@netmail.city.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Well ,well, well Mr Judge Dread , could you please tell me how visible your rules are or are we to imagine what your rules are. It would have being a good idea if you first state what your rules are to the applicant before subscribing anyone . You fail to do so simply because of your incompetence and your inability to vision and or- ganise like a reasonable , skillful and competent man would.
Actually i think its a complete waste of time replying to your cheap , unsound and inconstructive posting and if you are waiting for my apology , you will rot there . Again just like i said before you can do what you like , i just don't care . You can unsubscribe me if you want MR. CO-ORDINATOR or whatever you are. It just don't bother me .
AGAIN JUST LIKE" DIGITAL UNDERGRONND" YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU LIKE .
M'BAI OMAR F.
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Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 14:10:30 +0100 From: Buba Njie <Buba.Njie@econ.uib.no> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Introduction Message-ID: <2.2.16.19970307131030.36f7f414@hermes.svf.uib.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 13:32 07.03.97 +0100, you wrote: >Hello fellow brothers and sisters, > >I've finally managed to set aside time to introduce myself to the net. My >name is Buba Njie and I'm a graduate student in Economics at the University >of Bergen, Norway. At the moment, I writing my desertation on >Privatization of State owned Enterprices in the Gambia and have resently >arrived from a field trip from the Gambia >My interests varies from developmental to social issues and I hope to >contribute to the net soon. > > >Best regards > >Buba Njie > > >
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 12:55:48 +0000 From: "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: do what you like Message-ID: <199703071252.MAA25821@netmail.city.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
malanding , or whatever your name is , may i respectfully tell you that none of the comments that i made are libellous or slanderous. it appears to me that people like you don't want to be told the truth . you just want to do things as it pleases you and don't care about other peoples feelings , well i'm sorry i'm not the sort of person who would tolerate that . if anything comes to my mind and i feel i have to do or say something about it , i will do exactly that at whatever expense.
people like you don't want anybody to challenge you in whatever you do or say even when wrong, you don't want to be criticised all that you want is "PRAISES, PRAISES, PRAISES" . when on earth will you know where things are going wrong for you if all that you get is praises.
now as far as views and opinions are concerned , i will continue to express them the way i see them and the way any other reasonable and prudent man would . the only way you can stop me from doing so on the net is to "U-N-S-U-B-S-C-R-I-B-E me and to tell you the truth I JUST DON'T CARE AND I'M NOT THE LEAST BOTHERED WHEN YOU DO .
It just shows how unrealistic, unreasonable and insincere some people can be. what is wrong with someone expressing his or her points of view or opinion. a criticism is not supposed to make one happy and all laughters , it is supposed to make one react and swept one of his or her feet not with delight but with devastation . A criticism is meant to make something a better person because it makes one think and work harder UNLESS ONE HAS A VERY PERSONALITY WHICH SEEM TO BE THE CASE HERE .
once again i will not stop expressing my opinions simply because you said so, if you like you can unsubscribe. that is that.
M'BAI OMAR F.
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Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 17:43:28 +0300 From: BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help!! Message-ID: <313EF60F.4BDE@QATAR.NET.QA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Modou Jallow wrote: > > Hi, > > Could any member provide me with the address and phone number of the > Gambian Embassy in Saudi Arabia? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks. > > Regards, > Moe S. Jallow > > =============================================================================== > mjallow@sct.edu mjallow@hayes.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MR.JALLOW!! THE GAMBIAN EMBASSY P.O.BOX 94322, RYADH 11693 KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA TEL:(0966(1)) 4560273
THE CONSUL IS : MUSTAPHA BOJANG TEL:-(2)6696819 (JEDDA)
REGARDS BASSSS!! -- SZDDˆð'3Af¨
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:48:50 GMT From: oleary@arminco.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Greetings from Armenia Message-ID: <199703071548.PAA03565@arminco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hello to all Gambia-L'ers!
I have been meaning to greet you all since I signed up some time ago and am only now getting around to it. I am known as Momodou Kumba Jallow to my brothers and sisters in the Gambia. I lived in the Gambia for 16 years and only left there in October of 1996. I was a Peace Corps Volunteer in Diabugu for two years and worked in Bansang for Save the Children for two years. The rest of my days in Gambia I worked with USAID until they closed the office on September 30,1996. I am now working in Yerevan, Armenia. I wish you all peace!
MKJ Sean O'Leary USAID/Yerevan Washington,DC 20520-7020 Home Phone:(3742)15137 E-mail address: oleary@arminco.com
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Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 18:59:32 +0300 From: BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: ISSUE OF PRIVATE MAILS Message-ID: <313F07E4.35B7@QATAR.NET.QA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
M'BAI OF wrote: > > Well ,well, well Mr Judge Dread , could you please tell me how > visible your rules are or are we to imagine what your rules are. It > would have being a good idea if you first state what your rules are > to the applicant before subscribing anyone . You fail to do so simply > because of your incompetence and your inability to vision and or- > ganise like a reasonable , skillful and competent man would. > > Actually i think its a complete waste of time replying to your > cheap , unsound and inconstructive posting and if you are waiting > for my apology , you will rot there . Again just like i said before > you can do what you like , i just don't care . You can unsubscribe > me if you want MR. CO-ORDINATOR or whatever you are. It > just don't bother me . > > AGAIN JUST LIKE" DIGITAL UNDERGRONND" YOU CAN > DO WHAT YOU LIKE . > > M'BAI OMAR F.
MR.NBAYE!! MANY OF US HAVE MADE MISTAKES HERE.I HAVE MADE A LOT OF IT SINCE I JOINED THIS LIST AND I HAVE SAID,AS A RESULT,A LOT OF "I AM SORRY" OR "I APPOLOGIZE".THAT IS WHY I AM VERY DISTURBED BY THE FACT THAT YOU NOT ONLY REFUSED TO ACCEPT THAT WHAT YOU AND Tamsir DID WAS AGAINST THE RULES, BUT, MORE THAN THAT,YOU HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY DEFENSIVE AND CONFRONTATIONAL ABOUT IT.PLEASE,PLEASE STOP THIS CONFRONTATIONAL ATTITUDE AND START WRITING ABOUT GAMBIAN AND AFRICAN ISSUES THAT WOULD BENEFIT ALL OF US.
THIS LIST IS A FANTASTIC PLACE! AND ITS A PLACE OF BOTH LEARNING AND ENTERTAINMENT FOR ALL OF US.SO, PLEASE, LET US NOT DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD DESTROY SUCH A BANTABAAAAA ATMOSPHERE!! I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT A FUTURE LAWYER WOULD BE MUCH MORE RESPECTFUL OF Rules AND THE Guardians Of The Rules THAN I AM WITNESSING HERE!!
REGARDS BASSSS!! -- SZDDˆð'3Af¨
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Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 19:07:56 +0300 From: BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Greetings from Armenia Message-ID: <313F09DC.953@QATAR.NET.QA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
oleary@arminco.com wrote: > > Hello to all Gambia-L'ers! > > I have been meaning to greet you all since I signed up some time ago and am > only now getting around to it. > I am known as Momodou Kumba Jallow to my brothers and sisters in the Gambia. > I lived in the Gambia for 16 years and only left there in October of 1996. I > was a Peace Corps Volunteer in Diabugu for two years and worked in Bansang > for Save the Children for two years. The rest of my days in Gambia I worked > with USAID until they closed the office on September 30,1996. I am now > working in Yerevan, Armenia. > I wish you all peace! > > MKJ > Sean O'Leary > USAID/Yerevan > Washington,DC > 20520-7020 > Home Phone:(3742)15137 > E-mail address: oleary@arminco.com
WOOW!!from DIABUGU to YEREVAN!! WELCOME TO THE BANTABAA, MR.MODOU KUMBA JALLOW! THIS PLACE IS YOURS,SO FEEL AT HOME,AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES IN THE GAMBIA WHENEVER YOU HAVE TIME.
REGARDS BASSSS!! -- SZDDˆð'3Af¨
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:59:48 +0000 From: "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: (Fwd) (Fwd) Black Internet Users? Message-ID: <199703071656.QAA13149@netmail.city.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "ADADE-BOAFO KD" <K.D.Adade-Boafo@icsl.ac.uk> To: "ABANULO AO" <A.O.Abanulo@icsl.ac.uk>, "E.C.Esuman-Gwira" <ah6269@qmw.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:31:39 +0000 Subject: (Fwd) Black Internet Users? Cc: DebsDom1@aol.com, E.M.Sissoho@icsl.co.uk, o.f.m'bai@icsl.ac.uk, a.s.ezekiel@icsl.ac.uk, p.a.rollins@icsl.ac.uk, ADUSEI-POKU IRENE <ai241@greenwich.ac.uk>, un460@greenwich.ac.uk, E.MYERS@icsl.ac.u Priority: normal
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 12:54:05 -0500 (EST) From: at137@columbia.edu To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: cnet clip, African tycoon sentenced in export flap Message-ID: <199703071754.MAA07322@parev.cc.columbia.edu>
This section is from the document '/clari/usa/military/4989'.
Path: news.columbia.edu!news.columbia.edu!maestro.clari.net!duet.clari.net!e.news Comment: Update Pending; Supersedes: <Uus-tycoonUR6CV_7M5.RPMF_7M5@clari.net> X-Fn: bs/Uus-tycoon.R6CV_7M5 Distribution: cl-4 Approved: editor@clarinet.com From: C-upi@clari.net (UPI) Newsgroups: clari.local.florida,clari.usa.military,clari.usa.law.misc,clari.news.crime.misc Subject: African tycoon sentenced in export flap Keywords: legal, criminal proceedings, military, military weapons, human interest, people, international, US government, non-usa government Organization: Copyright 1997 by United Press International Message-ID: <Uus-tycoonUR6CV_7M5.R1MN_7M5@clari.net> Lines: 28 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 7:51:53 PST Location: Florida ACategory: regional Slugword: us-tycoon Threadword: us Priority: regular Format: regular ANPA: Wc: 292/0; Id: u9045; Src: up; Sel: ade-u; Adate: 3-5-N.A; Ver: 0/2 Note: (UPI Focus) Xref: news.columbia.edu clari.local.florida:7591 clari.usa.military:4989 clari.usa.law.misc:6707 clari.news.crime.misc:4643
MIAMI, March 5 (UPI) -- A Gambian businessman convicted of trying to bribe a customs officer to free a shipment of military helicopters from Miami plans to appeal his conviction and prison sentence. Foutanga Dit Babani Sissoko, who holds dual citizenship in Gambia and Mali and made a fortune from hotels, gold mines and casinos in Africa and the Middle East, was sentenced in Miami federal court Tuesday to four months in prison followed by four months' house arrest. Sissoko also was ordered to pay a $250,000 fine. His attorneys indicated (Wednesday) they will appeal the case to the World Court in the Netherlands. Gambian officials have said Sissoko is considered an ambassador-at- large for the country and his attorneys suggest he has diplomatic immunity. They argue his arrest and conviction violate a Vienna Convention that protects diplomats. Sissoko was convicted of offering a U.S. Customs Service agent $30, 000 in exhange for clearing a shipment of two military helicopters from Miami International Airport without the proper export license. Sissoko contends the decommissioned choppers were intended for business and humanitarian purposes in his homeland and he offered a gift in the mistaken belief it would speed up the legal processing of the shipment. Prosecutors successfully argued the money was intended as a bribe to circumvent a law that forbids the export without government approval of equipment which can be used for military purposes. During the trial, Sissoko was free on $20 million bail, reportedly a record amount for any south Florida case.
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 12:45:08 -0600 From: Francis Njie <francis_njie@il.us.swissbank.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT Message-ID: <9703071845.AA03891@new_delhi> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3risc v124.8483.5) Content-Type: text/plain
>> HELLOW EVERYONE; How about adopting a school or some other institution >> back home and providing some of the school's needed supplies, text books >> etc. on an occasional basis?
Musa,
I think this is a decent idea which I certainly would give both time and money to. We could (and should) leverage the relative strength of the foreign currencies we have access to and do considerable good-- A few dollars would go a long way in the Gambia.
An American friend visited Ghana recently and was compelled to give the few pens and notepads he had on him to primary school students he met. I had (shamefully) almost forgotten this dimension of need!
One question however... how do we go about selecting a school?
- Francis
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Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 20:20:14 +0100 From: Andrea Klumpp <klumpp@kar.dec.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: ISSUE OF PRIVATE MAILS Message-ID: <33206A6E.658B@kar.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear All,
I've ONLY appreciated the work of the list-managers, the list would not be there and running smoothly without their competence and vision !!! And I don't need any rule published in order to communicate in a respectful manner.
Peace ! ? ! Please !!
Andrea
BAI OF wrote: > > Well ,well, well Mr Judge Dread , could you please tell me how > visible your rules are or are we to imagine what your rules are. It > would have being a good idea if you first state what your rules are > to the applicant before subscribing anyone . You fail to do so simply > because of your incompetence and your inability to vision and or- > ganise like a reasonable , skillful and competent man would. > > Actually i think its a complete waste of time replying to your > cheap , unsound and inconstructive posting and if you are waiting > for my apology , you will rot there . Again just like i said before > you can do what you like , i just don't care . You can unsubscribe > me if you want MR. CO-ORDINATOR or whatever you are. It > just don't bother me . > > AGAIN JUST LIKE" DIGITAL UNDERGRONND" YOU CAN > DO WHAT YOU LIKE . > > M'BAI OMAR F.
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 14:06:35 -0500 (EST) From: Alias431@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re-posting mail Message-ID: <970307140633_1450788445@emout05.mail.aol.com>
Dear list members,
Could we please stop re-posting mail. For example, We always write : "Mr. X wrote: ..." and then re-post whatever Mr. X wrote (sometimes, a rather long article). Re-posting just unnecessarily uses up space, since we all already have whatever Mr. X posted. Thank You
Haddijatou Secka
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 14:53:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: msjaiteh@mtu.edu (Malanding S. Jaiteh) Subject: Re: cnet clip, African tycoon sentenced in export flap Message-ID: <199703071953.OAA08440@oak.ffr.mtu.edu> Content-Type: text
> Gambian officials have said Sissoko is considered an ambassador-at- > large for the country and his attorneys suggest he has diplomatic > immunity. They argue his arrest and conviction violate a Vienna > Convention that protects diplomats.
Here we go again! Who is this Mr Sissoko to be an 'ambassodor-at-large' for the Gambia government/the gambian people?
All these make me feel that there this is another version of the Jawara-Nigerian oil efforts. I just hope that the gambian people do not end up paying for Mr Sissoko's legal bills!
Malanding jaiteh
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:17:40 -0400 (AST) From: "Inqs." <nfaal@is2.dal.ca> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.970307171349.32224B-100000@is2.dal.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I second this idea, and i think we had better get started. Which school(s)? On what level, ie primary, secondary etc. Are you going to help equip the school, sponsor needy kids or both. How much will be needed? Perhaps we should start out with sum'n like the observer online, interested members, should sign-up, and a steering committee should be formed. What does the list think?
Nkoyo.
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 15:18:17 -0600 From: Francis Njie <francis_njie@il.us.swissbank.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: NGO/Initiative Info Request Message-ID: <9703072118.AA03983@new_delhi> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3risc v124.8483.5) Content-Type: text/plain
I will be adding some info to my Web page this weekend about the budding/established non-governmental organizations and initiatives I know of that are (directly) relevant to the Gambia. I hope this addition becomes a useful repository for anyone interested in getting things done in/for the Gambia.
I don't have much of a list presently. Please help me make the content worthwhile by sending along summaries of initiatives you have started, are thinking of starting, or simply know of... along with contact names, contact e-mail/snail-mail addresses, phone/fax numbers, etc, if possible...
Thanks...
- Francis PS: Here's a list of the orgs I know of and intend to post info about... I. GaSTech (Gambians in Science & Technology) II. The Gambia Islamic Organisation For Technical Training III. NACOMM (National Communiquo) IV. Crossroads Africa, Inc
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:41:33 -0800 (PST) From: "Al M'Ballow" <al@orgear.com> To: Francis Njie <francis_njie@il.us.swissbank.com> Cc: "GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT Message-ID: <Pine.D-G.3.93.970307132430.21278A-100000@aviion.orgear.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Like Francis njie,my self,and others wouldn't mine contributing towards this,but to what school isit going to.Again,if you said, sending money to the gambia government for the schools,to who is that money going to directly,because for me is just like working till the end of the month,get your paycheque,and give it to Bill Gates. I am saying this,simply because things are not going the way they should,whereby we can put money together and give it away to people that we don't know or trust. All i want to know is,to who is the money going directly, and how much did you guys trust this individual. Thanks Mballow.
On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Francis Njie wrote:
> > >> HELLOW EVERYONE; How about adopting a school or some other institution > >> back home and providing some of the school's needed supplies, text books > >> etc. on an occasional basis? > > Musa, > > I think this is a decent idea which I certainly would give both time and money > to. We could (and should) leverage the relative strength of the foreign > currencies we have access to and do considerable good-- A few dollars would go > a long way in the Gambia. > > An American friend visited Ghana recently and was compelled to give the few > pens and notepads he had on him to primary school students he met. I had > (shamefully) almost forgotten this dimension of need! > > One question however... how do we go about selecting a school? > > - Francis > > > > >
m
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 14:08:09 -0400 (AST) From: "Inqs." <nfaal@is2.dal.ca> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Africa: How bad is it? Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.970307140035.30878I-100000@is2.dal.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Abdou Gibba wrote:
> At 13:16 06.03.97 -0400, NKOYO wrote: > > I think the problems of Africa stem primarily from the fact that > >we don't seem to understand that personal interests and public ones need > >not be mutually exclusive. We are too busy trying to fufill our > >individual wants and needs, at any cost, which usually turns out to be the > >development of our nations, as is so aptly demonstrated in our leadership. > > > NKOYO! This is so very true, only less elaborate. Not only our leadership > should be held accounted for "personal interest" but some "ordinary people" > too.
Just to clarify, when i said "we" i meant the entire population (with the exception of a few dedicated individuals). Corrupt leadership, not just in government but on every level, illustrates the best, i think the habit of putting personal interests before, and at the cost of public interest, the responsibility is not that of the leaders, but of every African adult. This does not stop there, apathy is one of the greatest diseases that we face, people simply do not care or are not bothered enough to get up and DO something about our problems, and until we can change that, I'm sorry, we will stagnate in the backwater that is Africa, and be trampled on my every Tom, Dick or Harry, be they our fellow Africans or others.
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Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 18:21:56 -0600 From: Ndey Drammeh <NDRAMME@wpo.it.luc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Social Responsibility for Shell Oil! Message-ID: <s3206031.069@wpo.it.luc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline
On 3/6/96, Ousman Gajigo wrote:
>None of the blame should go to Shell Oil.........
Ousman,
I disagree!! Shell Oil should be blamed for contributing to the environmental degradation of African's most populous country. Like all businesses, Shell Oil is connected to any community it operates in. As such, the company needs to be socially responsible in all communities, INCLUDING NIGERIA. Trying to minimize costs and maximize profits is no justification whatsoever, to devalue any society. The company should be held responsible and accountable for the damage it has caused to the environment, be it in Nigeria or anywhere else. Just because the Nigerian leaders don't give a ****! (excuse my language), does not give the company the right to deface and violate the society.
We need to make it clear to companies like Shell Oil that we will not tolerate social irresponsibility in our communities; the same degree of social responsibly practiced in other regions is demanded and expected in our region as well. I for one, will not buy the products of any business that I know contributes to the degradation of my community because all I have in this world is my beloved community!
Good weekend to you all.
Ndey Kumba
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 20:15:40 -0500 (EST) From: Raye Sosseh <gt8065b@prism.gatech.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: NGO/Initiative Info Request Message-ID: <199703080115.UAA20899@acmez.gatech.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Instead of supporting one particular school, we should either work with Mrs. Jow and the Ministry of education, the library or some other local organization in providing services that everyone can use. Not for profit bookstore/Cyber center - where students can get info., buy books and do basic computing. This could be somewhere in the library or the ministry could provide space. We will initiate the project and monitor how well it does..... if the feedback is good, we'll then work on extending it to individual schools....or atleast hope the ministry or someone else extends it to other schools or other locations.
************************************************************** * Raye Sosseh * * George Woodruff School of Mechanical Engineering * * Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 * * Internet: gt8065b@prism.gatech.edu * * * * Quote of the week * * ----------------- * * "You can live to be a hundred if you give up all * * the things that make you want to be a hundred." * **************************************************************
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 20:42:26 -0500 (EST) From: MJagana@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT Message-ID: <970307204226_-1071091004@emout09.mail.aol.com>
it is this proposal that needs to be really discussed. please pass on any good ideas.
THE MIND IS AN ENDANGERED SPECIES.KEEP IT ALIVE. READ A BOOK.
momodou jagana
THE JAGANA FOUNDATION.
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 20:53:49 -0500 (EST) From: MJagana@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT Message-ID: <970307205347_-1205006384@emout14.mail.aol.com>
Daer Mballow and interested Gambians,
I have few suggestios about this proposal and the following are the few.
1) Adopt a school> Here i suggest you personal adopt a schoo,a nd send the materails ie books etc. or you can personally sent the money to the school, rathner than to any government.
2) adopt a student>
You could adopt a student and follow through thier track of studieds via the school or some kind of programmes.
3) give awards>
you can send books to be given to the best performing students during prize giving or speech days ( if they still have such things).
and I invite list members to come up wiyh some ideas.
"A MANS IDEA IS AN IDEA, A TEAMS' IDEA, ARE IDEAS"
looking forward to your ideas.
momodou jagana
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 17:58:16 PST From: MAKE THAT VISION A REALITY <ABARROW@rr5.rr.intel.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: ISSUE OF PRIVATE MAILS Message-ID: <9703080158.utk12302@RR5.intel.com>
Mr M'bai,
"IF YOUR ONLY TOOL IS A HAMMER, ALL YOUR PROBLEMS BECOMES NAILS..."
You have lebeled every single person that respond constructively to your postings on the list, so I am the least bothered by lebels.
All I can tell you is, it doesn't take an unorganized, incompetence and unreasonable 24 year old to be a team leader in designing for the microprocessor division of Intel Corp.
Your labelling of people would not change the fact of the matter that you were wrong, yet you didn't want to acknowledge it. And it takes only a person with selfish personality not to admit their mistakes. Because we all make mistakes and learn from them.
I apologized if anyone find this disturbing.
Much respect to all.
Pa-Abdou Barrow Albuquerque
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 21:26:12 -0500 (EST) From: ASJanneh@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: ISSUE OF PRIVATE MAILS Message-ID: <970307212611_510174916@emout04.mail.aol.com>
Pa Abdou & Others:
don't be bothered a bit by the labels and apparent insults directed at us all. If anything, you have displayed a great degree of maturity by not sinking to the same low level as our one or two detractors. We should all find solace in the fact that there has been near unanimous agreement on the need to guarantee unfettered free speech while cutting down on messages that are nongermane to the List.
Peace! Amadou Scattred Janneh
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:54:34 JST +900 From: binta@iuj.ac.jp To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: ISSUE OF PRIVATE MAILS Message-ID: <199703080249.LAA29193@mlsv.iuj.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Fellow Gambia-l netters,
Will we forget about this private mail issue and move on. We may not know each other, but I assume we are different in age and responsibility. Age and seniority do still have a place in our communities. More and more responses on this issue lead us nowhere. Let us move on, please!!!!
Lamin.
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Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 08:36:19 +0300 From: BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT Message-ID: <313FC753.1D7F@QATAR.NET.QA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> I am saying this,simply because things are not going the way they > should,whereby we can put money together and give it away to people > that we don't know or trust. > All i want to know is,to who is the money going directly, > and how much did you guys trust this individual. > Thanks Mballow. >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > m
MR.NBALLOW!! DON'T WORRY ABOUT GIVING YOUR MONEY TO SOMEONE YOU DON'T KNOW.I DON'T THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THIS CASE.ANYTHING ARRANGED BY THIS LIST WOULD BE GIVEN TO A MEMBER ON THIS LIST GOING FOR VACATION.AND HE OR SHE WOULD BE GIVEN VERY CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS AS TO WHAT TO DO AND WHAT NOT TO DO.WE ARE AN ARM OF THE GAMBIAN PEOPLE AND NOT OF THE GOVERNMENT.
REGARDS BASSSS -- SZDDˆð'3Af¨
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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 22:22:56 PST From: MAKE THAT VISION A REALITY <ABARROW@rr5.rr.intel.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: NGO/Initiative Info Request Message-ID: <9703080622.utk10103@RR5.intel.com>
I think that we should invest whatever the organization comes up with at schools and children that are really in need. For example, in the provinces where parents have to come up school furniture and other stationaries when they can not even carter for their daily basic needs. This are the type kids who are being victims of circumstances of a "dysfunctional government". I do not think we should entrust that responsibility to the ministry of education. There is no confidence in a government which does hold to their commitments as we have learned in the vice-president issue, the scandal of transfer of money from central bank to private accounts, and so on and so forth.
Much respect to all.
Pa-Abdou Barrow Albuquerque
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:02:58 -0500 (EST) From: EThomas246@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: Alias431@aol.com Subject: Re: Re-posting mail Message-ID: <970308020257_719901467@emout05.mail.aol.com>
haddijatou, thanks for the subscription, but i am yet to understand what kind of cue this whole thing is all about, there r people just writing to bugggggg, i thought this is supposed to be a very constructive forum of defined acts of maturity and decency....not. I just hope we can stop criticizing each other and use this services to a more advantageous use than finger pointing each other.
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Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 02:19:49 -0500 From: "William O'Donnell" <billod@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: NGO/Initiative Info Request Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970308021634.14802B-100000@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Well I was not going to chip in on this matter since as a grad student I barely get by as it is but I have to agree with this suggestion - thinking of aid I do believe that it is better to strengthen pre-existing or forming lines of communication - that is working for the betterment of the Gambian Educational System as a whole rather than just one school - the imediate pay-off my be less visable but the long term potential is greater - in my opinion
good luck bill
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ William O'Donnell / / Dept. of History \ \ The Johns Hopkins University / / 3400 N. Charles St. \ \ Baltimore, MD 21218 / / http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~billod \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:58:10 -0500 (EST) From: ASJanneh@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Questions on the "Transition" Message-ID: <970308025809_447306429@emout17.mail.aol.com>
Gambia-l:
Is the "transition" to democratic rule moving according to schedule? If not, what are the implications? Have the so-called Secretaries of State been named yet? I have not heard much about about these matters. What's going on?
Amadou Scattred-Janneh
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:53:14 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT Message-ID: <19970308105118.AAA13588@LOCALNAME>
I wouldn't mind contributing towards this, but I would like to suggest that we join existing organizations with the same purposes. Francis has just named a few such as; GaSTech (Gambians in Science & Technology) and The Gambia Islamic Organisation For Technical Training etc., and I am sure there are other organizations in the different countries we live in.
Asbjcrn and I are also members of " Gambias Venner" Danish Gambian Friendship Society which has been sending hospital beds, x-ray machine, ambulances, books and individual members sponsoring school children. There are the local Gambian Organizations abroad one could join or form one in town/city you live in.
We are still taking names here on the list, of those interested in subscribing to the Daily Observer Online and there was a suggestions that a small percentage of the revenues go to a development fund managed by ourselves that will be used for development-oriented activities in the Gambia. Out of the 200 members of this list, we only have 50 who have shown that they are interested in paying the $10 per year.
My point is that before talking about starting a new project, lets try to realize the ones we have already started.
Peace Momodou Camara ******************************************************* http://home3.inet.tele.dk/mcamara
**"Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible and suddenly you are doing the impossible"***
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:17:12 -0500 (EST) From: ASJanneh@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: PROPOSAL/FOOD FOR THOUGHT Message-ID: <970308091712_-1272067781@emout20.mail.aol.com>
Momodou:
How does one contribute to the organization(s) that you already have? It appears from your list of activities that it would make better sense to reinforce rather than duplicate your organization(s). What are your current projects?
Salaam! Amadou Scattred-Janneh
PS: Have you done anything in Kombo South yet?
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 13:23:40 -0600 (CST) From: Yaya Jallow <yj0001@jove.acs.unt.edu> To: binta@iuj.ac.jp Cc: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu>, ; Subject: Re: Africa-How bad is it ? Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970308130121.25322A-100000@jove.acs.unt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hello Fellas,
Lamin, I whole heartedly agree with you that for so long now we've taken the journalistic view of our continent, i.e identifying problems upon problems and never reciting any solutions. However, I do not think acquiring education for creating personal wealth is at all bad nor do I think personal greed should be condemned as long it is all pursued within the realm of the private sector and the confinement of the law. In fact we need more educated and wealth motivated Africans to invest them shelves in our nations' private economies. While I do not believe in an expanded public bureaucracy, those who decide to take governmental positions should serve the public interest and not their personal needs.
In summary, I just think that we have depended far too long on public institutions both domestically and internationally for our continent's development and have given very little thought to the need of strengthening the African Entrepreneur.
Good day to you all
Yaya
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:47:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Ebrima Jawara <aeujawra@reading.ac.uk> To: Gambia-L <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Female Genital Mutilation. Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95q.970308211607.7672B-100000@suma3.reading.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII"
FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION
Or female circumcsion as it is sometimes called, is widely practised in The Gambia. The 'operation' is rarely performed with surgical tools, skill, any knowledge of anatomy or the use of anaesthetics.
Its aim is to prepare girls for marriage by helping to ensure their premarital purity. It lessens sexual desire, and so reduces the temptation for girls and women to have intercourse before marriage - very important where virginity is an absolute prerequisite for a bride-to-be. Some Moslem groups beleive it is demanded by the Islamic faith. Any proof of this? Other groups hold beliefs about human biology and use circumcision as contraception. In some cultures, female genitals are considered unclean, and circumcision serves literally to smooth and ritually purify them.
Genital Mutilation has staggering physical and mental health consequences for women. Infections (frequently fatal), haemorrhage, and other extreme long-term physical complications are common. The extent and degree of sexual and mental health problems can only be guessed at, because circumcised women are often hesitant to discuss a subject that means little to them, or is embarrassing - their sexuality.
THE ABOVE WAS TAKEN FROM WOMEN IN THE WORLD.
I do believe that: Female Genital Mutilation is PRIMITIVE and BARBARIC. With no real place in a modern society. However one's culture should be respected and preserved, But at what cost? Is it good for the society as a whole? The whole act of female circumcision is a strain on already stretched medical services. The women have to see gynaecologists for horrendous complications brought about by the primitive butchering of their private parts. The celebrations cost a lot of money. The families have to give sacrifices as well as pay a fee to have their daughters ciurcumcised. Costing more money. Any type of development must include increases in life expectancy and the general welfare of the whole of the society. By mutilating women are we not depriving them of their own development, and thus the development of the country? I will do my bit to eradicate this primitive act by ensuring that any daughters I do have in the future will not be subjected to any forms of genital mutilation. If one other person reading this long and perhaps boring piece, should decide that their daughters will not be mutilated, I think some good would have been done.
I HOPE I HAVE NOT OFFENDED ANYONE, AND IF I HAVE, I DO APPOLOGISE. ANY FEEDBACK, NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE WILL BE MUCH APPRECIATED.
GOD BLESS,
EBRIMA JAWARA.
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:53:02 -0500 From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: NGO/Initiative Info Request Message-ID: <199703082153.QAA09234@oak.ffr.mtu.edu>
Bill O'Donnell wrote: > Well I was not going to chip in on this matter since as a grad student I > barely get by as it is but I have to agree with this suggestion - thinking > of aid I do believe that it is better to strengthen pre-existing or > forming lines of communication - that is working for the betterment of the > Gambian Educational System as a whole rather than just one school - the > imediate pay-off my be less visable but the long term potential is greater > - in my opinion > > On a similar note I sent the following to a few guys in the list for reasons mentioned:
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>From msjaiteh@mtu.edu Fri Jan 31 20:18:33 1997 From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: hemlock.ffr.mtu.edu: Host aspen.ffr.mtu.edu claimed to be aspen Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 20:18:29 -0500 To: at137@columbia.edu, binta@iuj.ac.jp Subject: Proposal for NGO for education in the Gambia. Cc: msjaiteh@mtu.edu
Hi folks, I am proposing that we present Gambia-l and the greater Gambian community with proposal to establish a charitable organization for the advancement of Education in the Gambia. The primary role of the organization will be to facilitate the the effective utilization of Gambian expertise and resources particularly outside the Gambia in the advancement of education in the Gambia.
Among ohters the main functions will be: -Gather funds and materials to assist individuals and institutions in need. -develop mentorship and guidance programs to prepare kids for higher education. -Provide a forum through which matters relating to advancement of the education in the Gambia can be discussed and channeled to authorities in the Gambia.
If need be we can invite a few able guys and develop a framework to present to the Gambia-l.
If you think its good a try get the ball rolling.
Malanding Jaiteh
Ps. The organization must at all times be free of political affiliation.
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As Nkoyo mentioned It would be a good idea if we have a team sign up to develop a framework on how to go about it. Amadou and Momodou also pointed out existing organizations that could be strengthened.
I believe that much could be achieved with the following steps: The organization must be not be affiliated to any existing political organization. The goals must be more than just supporting a school or few individuals. A local affiliate based in the Gambia would be ideal in overseeing the organizations activities.
To get things moving Nkoyo with your permission can go ahead to get names of the volunteer steering committee.
Malanding jaiteh
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:16:37 -0800 (PST) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Gambian Cabinet ( forwarded news ) Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970308211349.22855A-100000@saul6.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Gambia-politics-list : Make-up of new Gambian government
BANJUL, March 8 (AFP) - Following is the make-up of the government appointed Friday by Gambian President Yahya Jammeh:
President: Yahya Jammeh Minister to the Presidency: Edward Singhateh Interior: Momodou Bojang Foreign Affairs: Omar Njie Trade, Employment, Industry: Famara Jatta Lands and local government: Yankouba Touray Justice: Awa Ceesay-Sabally Finance and Economic Affairs: Dominique Mendy Health and Social Affairs: Isatou Njie-Saidy Education : Satang Jow Tourism and Culture: Suzanne Waffa Ogoo Agriculture: Musa Mbemga Public Works, Communications, Information: Ebrima Ceesay dh/mb
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02:34 GMT, 08 March 1997
AFP 1997 Gambia-politics : Gambian president names new government
BANJUL, March 8 (AFP) - Gambian President Yahya Jammeh announced a new government Friday which saw three new ministers brought in and four dismissals, an official announcement said.
Like the previous administration formed after Jammeh's military coup in July 1994, the new cabinet has 13 members, but no youth and sports minister was appointed.
The post of vice-president, which had been earmarked for Captain Edward Singhateh, 27, was not attributed, as the minimum age limit under the constitution is 30.
Instead Singhateh, the former defence minister, was named minister to the presidency with wide-ranging responsibilities, including presidential matters, relations with parliament, the civil service, fisheries and natural resources.
The three new ministers are retired major Momodou Bojang at the interior ministry, Omar Njie at foreign affairs and Famara Jatta at trade and industry.
After heading a military administration for more than four years, Jammeh was elected president under a new constitution in September last year. General elections followed in January 2, giving victory to Jammeh's supporters.
For the past few weeks the opposition frequently boycotted parliamentary sessions, demanding that a government and a vice-president be named.
Gambia is still waiting for foreign donors to resume the aid that was frozen in the wake of Jammeh's coup.
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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 21:19:42 -0800 (PST) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Gambia's president takes over defence ministry (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970308211841.22855B-100000@saul6.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
FYI-
Tony
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 6:20:24 PST From: Reuter / Pap Saine <C-reuters@clari.net> Newsgroups: clari.world.africa.western, clari.world.gov.politics Subject: Gambia's president takes over defence ministry
BANJUL, March 8 (Reuter) - Gambian President Yahya Jammeh has sacked his finance, foreign and interior ministers and has taken charge of the defence ministry in his first cabinet appointments as civilian leader. The full cabinet list, published in the official Gazette on Saturday, showed a government of 12 members, excluding Jammeh, who seized power in a 1994 army coup and won the presidency in disputed elections last September. Each minister has the new title of Secretary of State in line with a new constitution that returned the West African state to democracy in January after over two years of army rule. Jammeh replaced Foreign Minister Blaise Jagne with Omar Njie while the finance and economy portfolio passed from Bala Garba Jahumpa to Dominic Mendy. Jammeh sacked Interior Minister Captain Lamin Bajo and replaced him with Retired Major Momodou Bojang. He also sacked Amina Faal Sonko, the youth and sports minister and scrapped that job. Civil Service Minister Mustapha Wadda also goes. Former vice-president Edward Singateh takes the new post of Secretary of State in the president's office, with responsibility for the National Assembly, the civil service, fisheries and natural resources. Singateh, a retired army captain and one of the young officers who staged the 1994 coup with Jammeh, was responsible for defence in the last administration. Jammeh now holds that post. Political analysts said Singateh would effectively remain vice-president but could not be formally named as such because of a constitutional requirement that the holder be at least 31. Jammeh toppled the elected government of Gambia's independence leader Sir Dawda Jawara, now exiled in Britain. Jammeh's party won a commanding majority in parliamentary polls in January.
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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 01:39:24 -0500 (EST) From: ABALM@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Tobaski Message-ID: <970309013923_-2075286533@emout06.mail.aol.com>
Hi everybody !
Could somebody please inform me of the exact date of Tobaski, is it March 20. ?
Please reply as soon as possible.
Thank you
Abba
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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 02:12:00 -0500 (EST) From: ASJanneh@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Meningitis in West Africa Message-ID: <970309021159_-1338968177@emout03.mail.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0.9962.emout03.mail.aol.com.857891519"
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