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GAMBIA-L Digest 35
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) forwarding Lang's posting by ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> 2) NEWS FROM GAMBIA by ndarboe@olemiss.edu 3) Re: NEWS FROM GAMBIA by ndarboe@olemiss.edu 4) Re: forwarding Lang's posting by TSaidy1050@aol.com 5) Re: forwarding Lang's posting by <JDG.L.LANGE.LWCLK@CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US> 6) WHAT LIES AHEAD FOR THE GAMBIA by JAWARAMB@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu 7) Re: Multiple Issues by mostafa jersey marong <mbmarong@students.wisc.edu> 8) Re: NEWS FROM GAMBIA by ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> 9) Re: Multiple Issues by mmjeng@image.dk (Matarr M. Jeng.) 10) 96I22014.html by Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> 11) Re: NEWS FROM GAMBIA by Yaya Jallow <yj0001@jove.acs.unt.edu> 12) New member introduction to the list by msarr@sprynet.com 13) Re: New member introduction to the list by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 14) Reuters News From Gambia.... by YAHYAD@aol.com 15) Re: Reuters News From Gambia.... by ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> 16) Imminent political chaos. by Lamin Camara <yudris@ica.net> 17) Re: Imminent political chaos. by SillahB@aol.com 18) Re: Imminent political chaos. by Sulayman Nyang <nyang@cldc.howard.edu> 19) Re: Reuters News From Gambia.... by mostafa jersey marong <mbmarong@students.wisc.edu> 20) Re: political violence (fwd) by ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> 21) GAMBIANS BEING USED AS POLITICAL GUINEA PIGS by JAWARAMB@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu 22) CONGRESS-IMMIGRATION. by Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> 23) Re: Reuters News From Gambia.... by Yaya Jallow <yj0001@jove.acs.unt.edu> 24) cnet clip, Reuters Africa Highlights / [Sep 24] [ 47] Reuters by at137@columbia.edu 25) New member by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 26) New Members by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 27) Re: Imminent political chaos. by Sulayman Nyang <nyang@cldc.howard.edu> 28) Re: Imminent political chaos. by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 29) Ellections Greetings. by mmjeng@image.dk (Matarr M. Jeng.) 30) Fwd: Pan-African News Agency staff suspend pay strike by momodou@inform-bbs.dk (Momodou Camara) 31) Re: Ellections Greetings. by mostafa jersey marong <mbmarong@students.wisc.edu> 32) by "BOJANG,BUBA" <BBOJANG@MUSIC.TRANSY.EDU> 33) ENDORSEMENT by JAWARAMB@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu 34) GAMBIA_ELECTION_SCENESETTER. by Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> 35) cnet clip, Gambia's army rulers seek legitimacy t [ 55] Reuter / John Chiahe by at137@columbia.edu 36) cnet clip, Gambia -- one of Africa's smallest sta [ 76] Reuters by at137@columbia.edu 37) cnet clip, Voting starts in Gambia presidential p [ 34] Reuters by at137@columbia.edu 38) gopher://gopher.voa.gov:70/11/newswire/wed by ndarboe@olemiss.edu 39) gopher://gopher.voa.gov:70/00/newswire/thu/GAMBIA_ELECTION_SCENESETTER by ndarboe@olemiss.edu 40) Re: gopher://gopher.voa.gov:70/00/newswire/thu/GAMBIA_ELECTION_SCENESETTER by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 41) From PANA by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 42) INTRODUCTION AS A NEW MEMBER by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> 43) The issue of Gambians not returning home by Alieu Jawara <umjawara@cc.UManitoba.CA> 44) Re: INTRODUCTION AS A NEW MEMBER by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 45) Re: The issue of Gambians not returning home by ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> 46) New Member by Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> 47) GAMBIA_ELECTIONS-2. by Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> 48) Appreciation for introduction to GAMBIA-L by LIEDRAMMEH@aol.com 49) Re: New Member by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 50) Gambia Elections Preliminary Results by ndarboe@olemiss.edu 51) Re: New Member by ndarboe@olemiss.edu (Numukunda Darboe) 52) Corrections(Gambia Elections Preliminary Results) by ndarboe@olemiss.edu (Numukunda Darboe) 53) Re: The issue of Gambians not returning home by sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) 54) RESPONSE TO ALIEU by JAWARAMB@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu 55) Elections Update by ndarboe@olemiss.edu (Numukunda Darboe) 56) Re: Elections Update by ABALM@aol.com 57) Election results by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 58) Re: The issue of Gambians not returning home by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 59) by "BOJANG,BUBA" <BBOJANG@MUSIC.TRANSY.EDU> 60) GAMBIA_ELECTION. by Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> 61) I Hate to Say "I Told You So!" by Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> 62) Re: The issue of Gambians not returning home by binta@iuj.ac.jp 63) by sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) 64) 96I27038.html by Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> 65) Ndey Marie is back by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 66) forwarding Buba's Mail (fwd) by ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> 67) More election results by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 68) Re: More election results by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 69) Re: More election results by ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> 70) VICTORY by mafy <mafy@avana.net> 71) Re: forwarding Buba's Mail (fwd) by sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) 72) Re: forwarding Buba's Mail (fwd) by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 73) Please get my point guys by Alieu Jawara <umjawara@cc.UManitoba.CA> 74) Jammeh declared winner by AfrImports@aol.com 75) Gambia candidate takes refuge at Senegal embassy (fwd) by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 76) Gambia's army ruler wins civilian-rule election (fwd) by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 77) Re: VICTORY by SBojang@aol.com 78) Re: Please get my point guys by sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) 79) by "BOJANG,BUBA" <BBOJANG@MUSIC.TRANSY.EDU> 80) Re: BUBA'S message by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 81) The Gambia: Looking Ahead... by awali@st6000.sct.edu (Aminu Wali) 82) Re: VICTORY??????? by SBojang@aol.com 83) Appeal to GAMBIA-L members by LIEDRAMMEH@aol.com 84) Join the celebration by mafy <mafy@avana.net> 85) TIME TO CONCEDE! by SillahB@aol.com 86) Re: TIME TO CONCEDE! by binta@iuj.ac.jp 87) Re: The Gambia: Looking Ahead... by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 88) Reconcile the political distinctions. by Lamin <yudris@ica.net> 89) Re: Reconcile the political distinctions. by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 90) Let's move on by OUSMAN GAJIGO <gajigoo@wabash.edu> 91) "DECISION RENDUE" by Yaya Jallow <yj0001@jove.acs.unt.edu> 92) Re: Let's move on by binta@iuj.ac.jp 93) Re: Gambia's army ruler wins civilian-rule election (fwd) by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 94) AFPRC Dissolved by AfrImports@aol.com 95) Results Challenged by AfrImports@aol.com 96) More developments by AfrImports@aol.com
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Gambia-L,
I understand our own very efficient diplomat Tombong has been ordered out from the UK as well. He is currently in the Gambia. It must have been a very sudden decision because we didn't get any farewell from him this time. That explains why he has not been responding to Morro, Abdou and co.
With regards to my last posting and the subsequent reactions to it, i would just like to say, it wasn't a criticsm of one's choice or lack of it. Perhaps those making veil references to it should read it again and address the key issues i raised there.
On the issue of Mr. BB Dabo, i think the criticisms are unfair. Without going into too much personalities, i think that man did a lot for our country. To those who may not know him or come to contact with him, he is a man of such an impeccable character and strong principles who tries to rescue our country once again ( remember Kukoi in 1981) from within at a considerable personal risk to himself and family. When he realise that the people he is trying to work with have got their own agenda, he decides to leave. Personally, i think only a dimwit in Gambia's politcal history will accuse him of impropriety. And finally i would like to conclude by saying this: 'THOSE WHO LEAVE IN A GLASS HOUSE SHOULD NOT BE THROWING STONES'.
Lang
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 21:31:24 -0600 From: ndarboe@olemiss.edu To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: NEWS FROM GAMBIA Message-ID: <v01510100ae6bac3b73e1@[130.74.64.43]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Guys,
Do you guys smell what is approaching The Gambia? If you don't, this short message will give you a clue.
As in the campaign time table posted by Morro, today marks the day when the the UPD convoy should come from the provinces to the Kombo areas. Numerous UPD supporters dressed in the UPD T-shirts and UPD colors gathered around the road sides to receive the convoy. By coincidence, the Jammeh and his APRC contingent were booed as they passed by. He ordered the army to arrest the UPD supporters. The soldiers barricaded the road, and searched in any passing vehicles. Anyone wearing the UPD paraphernalia, he or she was stripped down tortured and arrested. Sources say there were a lot of wounded people.
I spoke with Mr. Darboe, and he said tomorrow they are going to Complain the matter to the Provisional Independent Electoral Commission(PIEC).
Guys don't you think better for Jammeh to say NO ELECTIONS than commiting this inhumane actvities? If he thinks he's done good enough a job that Gambians will love him, Why don't he be traquil and conduct a free and fare elections. It is too late trying to intimidate the Gambian people. They have had enough and "enough is enough".
Numukunda
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 22:56:00 -0600 From: ndarboe@olemiss.edu To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: NEWS FROM GAMBIA Message-ID: <v01510102ae6bc706bf81@[130.74.64.43]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I'm sorry, I'm use to using UPD as "University Police Department" that's why I keep on using UPD instead of UDP. I appologise for those who did not know what I was talking about.
By the way I forgot to add that Mr. Darboe was denied entry to the Capital city Banjul by the army by closing down the Denton Bridge on him and his convoy. He peacefully returned home.
Numukunda
>Hi Guys, > >Do you guys smell what is approaching The Gambia? If you don't, this short >message will give you a clue. > >As in the campaign time table posted by Morro, today marks the day when the >the UPD convoy should come from the provinces to the Kombo areas. Numerous >UPD supporters dressed in the UPD T-shirts and UPD colors gathered around >the road sides to receive the convoy. By coincidence, the Jammeh and his >APRC contingent were booed as they passed by. He ordered the army to arrest >the UPD supporters. The soldiers barricaded the road, and searched in any >passing vehicles. Anyone wearing the UPD paraphernalia, he or she was >stripped down tortured and arrested. Sources say there were a lot of >wounded people. > > I spoke with Mr. Darboe, and he said tomorrow they are going to Complain >the matter to the Provisional Independent Electoral Commission(PIEC). > >Guys don't you think better for Jammeh to say NO ELECTIONS than commiting >this inhumane actvities? If he thinks he's done good enough a job that >Gambians will love him, Why don't he be traquil and conduct a free and fare >elections. It is too late trying to intimidate the Gambian people. They >have had enough and "enough is enough". > >Numukunda
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:00:22 -0400 From: TSaidy1050@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: forwarding Lang's posting Message-ID: <960923080021_527946946@emout16.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-09-22 17:02:34 EDT, you write:'
<< I undrestand our own very efficient diplomat Tombong has been ordered out from the U.K as well. He is currently in The Gambia. It must have been a very sudden decision because we didn't get any farewell from him this time. That explains why he has not been responding to Morro, Abdou and co.* >>
Lang you must have a crystal ball because what you are saying is news to me. I am still in London, i have not yet "been ordered to leave" and you can call me at 44-171-937-6316 or contact me by fax at 44-171-937-9095. I didn't know you also contribute to 'Radio Kang Kang'.
I have been very busy lately that is why i have not been responding or commenting. There are certain remarks or comments from Morro and co. that do not deserve an answer or comment from me.
Tombong Saidy
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 10:01:50 CDT From: <JDG.L.LANGE.LWCLK@CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: forwarding Lang's posting Message-ID: <199609231401.HAA01046@mx5.u.washington.edu>
Lang: Bravo Lang, you got him to talk! So our long lost friend Tombong still has one hamster left on the wheel.
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In a message dated 96-09-22 17:02:34 EDT, you write:'
<< I undrestand our own very efficient diplomat Tombong has been ordered out from the U.K as well. He is currently in The Gambia. It must have been a very sudden decision because we didn't get any farewell from him this time. That explains why he has not been responding to Morro, Abdou and co.* >>
Lang you must have a crystal ball because what you are saying is news to me. I am still in London, i have not yet "been ordered to leave" and you can call me at 44-171-937-6316 or contact me by fax at 44-171-937-9095. I didn't know you also contribute to 'Radio Kang Kang'.
I have been very busy lately that is why i have not been responding or commenting. There are certain remarks or comments from Morro and co. that do not deserve an answer or comment from me.
Tombong Saidy
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:13:56 -0500 (CDT) From: JAWARAMB@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu To: GAMBIA-L@U.WASHINGTON.EDU Subject: WHAT LIES AHEAD FOR THE GAMBIA Message-ID: <01I9TAAHHLAQ8XGRX0@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
My Fellow Gambians: As we stand on the threshold of a new millenium, it is regrettable and pathetic that our country's future is gloomy and patchy. It is disheartening to learn from some of the postings this morning that scores of UDP supporters were wounded by Soldiers under directives from Jammeh. And the convoy carrying candidate Daboe was not allowed entry to the capital Banjul. My Friends these incidends if they are true , should be a point of grave concern to us all. The current environment in The Gambia, bears all the ingredients of a civil unrest the extent and dimensions of which would be hard to immagine at this point. What can be said about the situation at this time with some exactitude is that the future does not look bright for The Gambia. The question I want to throw out to all members of this E-MAIL network is that: WHAT CAN MEMBERS DO TO SAVE OUR FROM THE REIGN OF TERROR IT CURRENTLY IN ?.......RATHER WHAT CAN MEMBERS DO TO RESCUE THE COUNTRY FROM THIS NIGHTMARE? I mean to ask the later not the former. In my humble opinion the outcome of the election is a forgone conclusion. Elections are going to be held on thursday and Jammeh will declare himself a winner with overwhelming majority. Given the mendacity of the man he is capable of doing anything. Folks watch out disaster is in the making. I AM HERE BY SUGGESTING THAT WE PREPARE A VERY SERIOUS AND NO -NONSENSE RESPONSE TO JAMMEH TO PRE-EMPT THE OUT COME OF THE BOGUS ELLECTIONS. MY FRIENDS AND TO THOSE WHO HAVE INTEREST IN THE FUTURE WELL-BEING OF THE GAMBIA, IT ABOUT TIME WE FORM A UNITED FRONT TO OUST THIS GANG OF BANDITS HEADED BY JAMMEH. APPROACH: 1) EXPLORE EVERY DIPLOMATIC AVENUE POSSIBLE TO PUT FOWARD OUR CASE. 2)BRING UP TO THE ATTENTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY THE SENSELESS HUMAN RIGHT ABUSES COMMITTED BY JAMMEH i.e THE MURDER OF KORO CEESAY, THE NEAR DEATH STABING OF MR.NJIE,ALBEIT WHOLE HOST OF OTHER INFRACTIONS THAT CANNOT BE LISTED HERE DUE TO TIME. My Friends, I believe this is the trajectory we should follow if we are to liberate our country from the plight is currently in. By so doing, we must restraint ourself from Jawara and B.B bashing they do not deserve it. I will take a particular issue on this later but to highlight my point Jawara is the author of our independence and under his immpecable leadership The Gambia commands World -Wide respect and recognition. Besides the man was just doing a job if you have different views to his so be it but that should not generate this venom and hate for the man. To all his ditractors whether you agree to this or not the man's possition in history is secured. Let me remind all of you once again that the common interest at this juncture is to restore political order and a comprehensive solutions to our problems.
MUSA JAWARA VANDERBILT.
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:20:23 -0500 From: mostafa jersey marong <mbmarong@students.wisc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple Issues Message-ID: <199609231620.LAA133179@audumla.students.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 09:22 AM 9/21/96 GMT, you wrote: > >> Gambia-l: >> >> My prediction of the electoral outcome (non-scientific): >> >> (1) Jammeh is "elected" by a landslide >> (2) Opposition leaders and the international community concur that the >> entire process was marred by fraud and intimidation >> (3) Key opponents of the A(F)PRC are arrested and detained on trumped up >> charges. Other political detainees are given amnesty. >> (4) The political crisis continues; there is another coup in the making. >> >> >> I hope I am wrong, but time will tell! >> >> Peace! >> Amadou >> >Here I add a clip from the point for your first prediction. >"Whether You Vote For Col. Jammeh Or Not, He Would Win"-Captain Touray. >Captain Touray told the people that a country is ruled by the truth only and God will >never remove a truthful and straightforward ruler and replace him with a liar. The >people should unite and vote for Colonel Jammeh. >He made it clear to the people that a good incumbent president like Col. Jammeh, will >never be defeated by the opposition."So whether you vote for Col. Jammeh or not,he >will win." >What to call this? Something serious, intresting or what? mmj >---- >Matarr M. Jeng. mmjeng@image.dk > MATARR; I hate it but my brother, Malanding's prediction several weeks ago is becoming true. We were optimistic, always chiding ourselves with "no he cannot do that " or "that will not happen" when all the facts point to the diection and outcome that looks imminent now; we were hopeful when hope itself gave up. God didnt do this because it is said HE doesn't do anything bad. This is done by man. Maybe oneday man will have the wisdom and prudence to correct it. I hope it wont be too late then. MOSTAFA
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:58:32 -0400 (EDT) From: ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: NEWS FROM GAMBIA Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.960923134824.14848A-100000@hejsan.cc.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
HI folks, I called Gambia yesterday and while I was on the telephone, I could hear the commotion on the background and I was told that those were UDP memebrs being confronted by Jammeh's supporters. Things are so bad that the army openly supports Jammeh. They dance in the street with their weaponry and sing songs of praise for Jammeh. On another matter, I think it is incredulous and insulting that Mr. Saidy finds enquiries addressed to him as not being worthy of answering. Here is a government that has been caught sheltering a drug-dealer and he finds this unworthy of comment. Has the country fallen that far, as evidenced by the appoinment of such mediocrities to positions of influence, that we Gambians should be satisfied with having our country associated with drug-dealing ? This Babanding Sisokho was residing in an official residence and was being guarded by members of the GNA ! The consoling fact is that one half of this criminocracy has fallen. The other half shall follow suit one day (as they all do eventually). -Abdou.
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A FINITE IN A LAND OF INFINITY. SEEKING BUT THE REACHABLE. I WANDER AND I WONDER. ALL RESPITE IS FINAL. *******************************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 17:58:13 GMT From: mmjeng@image.dk (Matarr M. Jeng.) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu, mbmarong@students.wisc.edu (mostafa jersey marong) Subject: Re: Multiple Issues Message-ID: <M.092396.195813.07@ip71.image.dk>
> At 09:22 AM 9/21/96 GMT, you wrote: > > > >> Gambia-l: > >> > >> My prediction of the electoral outcome (non-scientific): > >> > >> (1) Jammeh is "elected" by a landslide > >> (2) Opposition leaders and the international community concur that the > >> entire process was marred by fraud and intimidation > >> (3) Key opponents of the A(F)PRC are arrested and detained on trumped up > >> charges. Other political detainees are given amnesty. > >> (4) The political crisis continues; there is another coup in the making. > >> > >> > >> I hope I am wrong, but time will tell! > >> > >> Peace! > >> Amadou > >> > >Here I add a clip from the point for your first prediction. > >"Whether You Vote For Col. Jammeh Or Not, He Would Win"-Captain Touray. > >Captain Touray told the people that a country is ruled by the truth only > and God will > >never remove a truthful and straightforward ruler and replace him with a > liar. The > >people should unite and vote for Colonel Jammeh. > >He made it clear to the people that a good incumbent president like Col. > Jammeh, will > >never be defeated by the opposition."So whether you vote for Col. Jammeh or > not,he > >will win." > >What to call this? Something serious, intresting or what? mmj > >---- > >Matarr M. Jeng. mmjeng@image.dk > > > MATARR; > I hate it but my brother, Malanding's prediction several weeks ago is > becoming true. We were optimistic, always chiding ourselves with "no he > cannot do that " or "that will not happen" when all the facts point to the > diection and outcome that looks imminent now; we were hopeful when hope > itself gave up. God didnt do this because it is said HE doesn't do anything > bad. This is done by man. Maybe oneday man will have the wisdom and prudence > to correct it. I hope it wont be too late then. > MOSTAFA
> Mostafa The saying of the chairman of the campaign committe for Col. Jammeh`s APRC Captain Yankuba Touray that "Whether you vote for Col. Jammeh or not, he would win " make me believe that Amadou`s nr:1 predicition is true. If Jammeh is going to win whether he is voted for or not, then why should there be any elections? There are many questions to be answered. It could be that he is saying it just for propaganda. Who knows? Time will tell. ---- Matarr M. Jeng. mmjeng@image.dk
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:19:53 -0500 (EST) From: Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: 96I22014.html Message-ID: <01I9TOV7ZWBM002F7L@PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 17:42:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Yaya Jallow <yj0001@jove.acs.unt.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: NEWS FROM GAMBIA Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.960923172355.14572A-100000@jove.acs.unt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Fellas,
I was one of the few who was trying to raise the banner of hope amidst the chaos, uncertainty and pessimism that befell us on this list. But the latest reports from home regarding the arrests and torture of UDP supporters are frightening realities. Coupled with this is the blatant one sidedness of the army toward Jammeh. Fellas, I'm afraid the time for complacency and wishful thinking is over. I 'm beginning to join the ranks of those who believe that we are headed for the worse. And trust me, I am not a pessimist for those who know me but the prospects for our country is turning out bleak. Yet again history has records of nations that were reborn anew and afresh out of crisis. I hope and I just hope that the Gambia we all come to love and call our home land will not go down the abyss as other fragmented African Nation-states.
Yaya
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:51:21 -0700 From: msarr@sprynet.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: New member introduction to the list Message-ID: <199609232251.PAA04913@m7.sprynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi Tony and all:
I am writing to recommend that Lie Drammeh be added to the list. Lie is a brother in the Maryland area. Once he is added and his introduction posted, we will be in for some interesting contributions from him. His E-mail address is liedrammeh@aol.com
Thanks, Mbaye Sarr msarr@sprynet.com
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:04:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: New member introduction to the list Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.92a.960923160230.14076A-100000@saul7.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Mbaye, thanks for recommending Lie Drammeh. He has been added to the list. We welcome him and will be looking forward to his introduction and contributions. Thanks Tony
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On Mon, 23 Sep 1996 msarr@sprynet.com wrote:
> Hi Tony and all: > > I am writing to recommend that Lie Drammeh be added to the list. Lie is a > brother in the Maryland area. Once he is added and his introduction posted, we > will be in for some interesting contributions from him. His E-mail address is > liedrammeh@aol.com > > Thanks, > Mbaye Sarr > msarr@sprynet.com >
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 19:35:42 -0400 From: YAHYAD@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: ydarboe@hq.walldata.com Subject: Reuters News From Gambia.... Message-ID: <960923193541_528264480@emout03.mail.aol.com>
Here is an article from Reuters:
BANJUL, Sept 23 (Reuter) - The main challenger to Gambia's military leader Yahya Jammeh in this week's presidential election said on Monday that 36 of his supporters had been taken to hospital after being beaten by soldiers.
``They brutalised my supporters and seized some of their cars,'' said Ousainou Darboe, leader of the United Democratic Party (UDP), at a news conference on Sunday's incident.
Witnesses said soldiers were called in when police failed to stop fighting between Darboe's supporters and those of Jammeh's Alliance for Patriotic Reorientation and Construction (APRC).
They said UDP supporters had lined the road at Churchill's Town, 15 km (10 miles) west of Banjul, to greet Darboe who was returning from a campaign tour in the interior.
Jammeh's motorcade was pelted with stones as it drove past, prompting an outbreak of fighting. Jammeh passed through, apparently unharmed, but some witnesses said his own car was also stoned.
``It took the soldiers more than two hours before the crisis came to an end,'' one witness said.
About 100 people were arrested, including many wearing UDP T-shirts, the witnesses said. Darboe delayed his return to Banjul for hours.
Reporters who visited the hospital said they saw about two dozen UDP supporters, most with light injuries. A few appeared to have been hit by some blunt object, they said.
Darboe, vice-president of the Gambia Bar Association, accused the army of backing Jammeh, who seized power in a 1994 coup and left the army in August to seek a popular mandate.
He said Jammeh had politicised the army, police and National Intelligence Agency, with their heads sporting Jammeh badges.
``They should be neutral and protect all citizens of this country,'' Darboe told the news conference.
There was no comment from Jammeh's camp or from the security services accused by Darboe.
The opposition leader said his campaign tour convinced him he would win 60 percent of the vote. Jammeh for his part has predicted a 99 percent electoral sweep. The winner needs only a simple majority, under the constitution.
All the four parties contesting the election were focusing their drive for votes on the capital Banjul on Monday ahead of the official close of campaigning at midnight on Tuesday.
Two lesser candidates are running but political analysts say the race was really between Darboe and Jammeh and that the race was too close to call.
15:17 09-23-96
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 21:05:06 -0400 (EDT) From: ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Reuters News From Gambia.... Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.960923202648.9817A-100000@hejsan.cc.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hello brothers & sisters,
This is Famara again from Abdou's address.
It is very said to learn about the episodes reported by reuter and others on the net. I am one of the "neverconvertible" anti-PPP, but as far as I remember, there was mainly dancing and singing and partying during election times, (those older can correct me) in addition to the personality attacks of course. I strongly believe that, that type of "politikking" was very backward, but it always took place in a peaceful atmosphere. We are not yet sure who is responsible for the violences, but we should all strongly condemn this barbaric form of "politikking". I hope Jammeh will put this to an absolute end, and if he himself is giving the green light for such activities (which I hope not) "SHAME ON HIM".
Regarding the political detainees I agree with the list members appealing for the release of all political detainees. Whether it a "bunch" or many. If the detainees are just a bunch then they should not pose any security threats to the regime. As one of the list members said we should remember that the detaineees are brothers, sisters, fathers, uncles, mothers and so on.
Lastly, I will like to say to those who believe PDOIS to be the REAL alternative, who at the same time talk about "they know they cannot win". The programme of UDP (thanks Morro for posting it) clearly shows that they are following Jawara's footsteps. The Market has never and will never eradicate poverty. We should have well thought redistributive systems which cater for social justice and which will not at the same time discourage personal initiatives or should I say innovation. If we all are thinking in that way that is PDOIS cannot win then we will never have a real change. I think it is time for us to start saying"THEY CAN WIN". It may be a bit too late to mobilise for more support, for the 1996 Presidential elections, but the parliamentary elections are coming, INSALLAH" I guess Musa likes that word. Have a nice elction day everyone. Shalom, Famara.
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A FINITE IN A LAND OF INFINITY. SEEKING BUT THE REACHABLE. I WANDER AND I WONDER. ALL RESPITE IS FINAL. *******************************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 21:54:31 +0500 From: Lamin Camara <yudris@ica.net> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Imminent political chaos. Message-ID: <3246C0C7.70A2@ica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
My fellows:
What our beloved country is heading towards, is saddening, and indeed frightening. Something has to be done, in order to rescue it from another Liberia-like situation! GOD forbids. When I initially learnt about the military takeover in our country, its future has worried me a great deal! My main concern is what is happening right now: political chaos. We all know the consequence of a military government in Africa; we've seen it.
The news of the recent incident between the supporters of UDP, and the contingent of APRC, is really frightening. This, therefore, sends a clear message to the general public (Gambians), the trend of our country, if APRC is elected to govern. Look, what has happened, and is happening, since APRC came to power: ... violation of Human Rights; blatant repeated intimidation of political opponents; blatant harassment of political opponents; detention of political opponents; a continues abuse of power; nepotism, favoritism, etc.
I do hope, and wish that the overwhelming majority of the electorates vote APRC out, on September 26.
Lamin Camara (Canada.)
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 00:29:27 -0400 From: SillahB@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Imminent political chaos. Message-ID: <960924002926_316000245@emout15.mail.aol.com>
Lamin, You could not put it any better! I also hope Jammeh and his gang of bandits be shown the Exit sign come Sep 26th. Inorder to restore respect and integrity back on the Gambia, he must be stopped. The Gambia cannot go on like this.
I have said this on the onset that, Jammeh will not entertain a free and fair election at all, and that is the primary ingredient for any post-election chaos. However, I will bet on a 60% chance to win a presidential election in a four-man race than a 99%. Probably, this prediction is out of pure arrogance by Jammeh, or the man's thought process is completely screwd-up! I hope God bless this country once again. And to those UDP supporters that stood-up against that Jammeh-force, remember "disobedience to tyrant is obedience to God." Finally, to the sophomore who taught "education is not important," I wonder why is he really in school.
Peace Baboucarr Sillah Atlanta
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 03:06:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Sulayman Nyang <nyang@cldc.howard.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Imminent political chaos. Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.960924022744.2645B-100000@spock> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
The news report from Reuter has shaken all of us.There is no doubt about it.This is unprecedented.But we cannot be too surprise.What can you expect from military rule? Soldiers who are nationalistic and loyal to the state and its people do not try to perpetuate themselves by civilianisation.How can a military man compete for popular votes with civilian politicians if the military man is still a soldier in coat and tie or a soldier passing himself off as a local marabout in grand boubou.This farce is a lesson learned from Gamal Abdul Nasser by Africa's military forces.The former President of Nigeria, Alhaji Shehu Shagari, was not wrong when he told his countrymen that there are only two political parties in Nigeria,that is, the military and the civilians.The Nigerians have been ruled for much of their post colonial life by a series of military dictators.Gambians have a chance to avoid the Nigerian destiny of military hegemony if the one million people make it categorically clear that freedom in danger is better than servitude in tranquility.It is better to live with quarreling civilians whose anger and bitterness are measured in words than to compete with rivals who count their successes by the number of bullets they fire from their guns.The September 26, 1996 elections pose a serious question to all Gambians and their friends abroad.Where are you going and how do you want to be governed? Those who feel that civilians are incompetent and corrupt and therefore do not deserve a chance,must then accept Jammeh as the gidt from the gods. Those who on the other hand strongly believe that the old regime failed to apply corrective lenses on its activities and on the performance of those civil servants under its control,must ask themselves whether they are willing to accept the political shenanigans of the AFPRC. Political freedom cannot be assumed by members of human society;it has to be earned through struggle and hard work.Africans of the twenty first century will look back at this fading twentieth century as the Great Moment of Human Triumph Over Tyranny.Africa is one of the last citadels of arbitrary rule.The political shenanigans we are now witnessing through Reuters and other news agencies are ugly reminders that Africans in general and Gambians in particular are not yet free and their claim to be in charge of their affairs is negated by the return to jungle politics.As the political philosopher of fascism says,"might is right." Are Gambians willing to put up with civlianised military rule or not? What is more vital and precious to them? Their freedom to be,even in the midst of corrupt elements, or their subjugation to a civilianised military junta that claims to be led by a savior of the masses and the voice of the betrayed paupers of Gambia.These and other related questions must be answered by all Gambians. This is no hedging here.The record of post colonial African history speaks volumes about the terrible role of the
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:32:44 -0500 From: mostafa jersey marong <mbmarong@students.wisc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reuters News From Gambia.... Message-ID: <199609241432.JAA06080@audumla.students.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 09:05 PM 9/23/96 -0400, you wrote: > >Hello brothers & sisters, > >This is Famara again from Abdou's address. > >It is very said to learn about the episodes reported by reuter and others >on the net. I am one of the "neverconvertible" anti-PPP, but as far as I >remember, there was mainly dancing and singing and partying during >election times, (those older can correct me) in addition to the >personality attacks of course. I strongly believe that, that type of >"politikking" was very backward, but it always took place in a peaceful >atmosphere. We are not yet sure who is responsible for the violences, but >we should all strongly condemn this barbaric form of "politikking". I hope >Jammeh will put this to an absolute end, and if he himself is giving the >green light for such activities (which I hope not) "SHAME ON HIM". > >Regarding the political detainees I agree with the list members appealing >for the release of all political detainees. Whether it a "bunch" or many. >If the detainees are just a bunch then they should not pose any >security threats to the regime. As one of the list members said we should >remember that the detaineees are brothers, sisters, fathers, uncles, >mothers and so on. > >Lastly, I will like to say to those who believe PDOIS to be the REAL >alternative, who at the same time talk about "they know they cannot win". >The programme of UDP (thanks Morro for posting it) clearly shows that they >are following Jawara's footsteps. >The Market has never and will never eradicate poverty. We should have well >thought redistributive systems which cater for social justice and which >will not at the same time discourage personal initiatives or should I say >innovation. >If we all are thinking in that way that is PDOIS cannot win then we will >never have a real change. >I think it is time for us to start saying"THEY CAN WIN". It may be a >bit too late to mobilise for more support, for the 1996 Presidential >elections, but the parliamentary elections are coming, INSALLAH" I guess >Musa likes that word. >Have a nice elction day everyone. >Shalom, >Famara. > >******************************************************************************* >A. TOURAY. >at137@columbia.edu >abdou@cs.columbia.edu >abdou@touchscreen.com >(212) 749-7971 >MY URL's ON THE WWW= http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~at137 > http://www.psl.cs.columbia.edu/~abdou > >A FINITE IN A LAND OF INFINITY. >SEEKING BUT THE REACHABLE. >I WANDER AND I WONDER. >ALL RESPITE IS FINAL. >******************************************************************************* > FAMARA; Thanks for your posting. I am really interested in discussing further two issues you raised and they are:
1) You said "the market has never and will never eradicate poverty". I would like you to elaborate on this more. Specifically, could provide a better alternative to market/s or a system that is better suited to eradicating poverty (with realistically attainable objectives and one that will be sustainable in the long term);
11) that "we should have well thought redistributive system" is another area i want us to talk about more. Could you please tell me what type of system you have in mind or would sugest.
Gambia-l is now blessed with highly educated people and I think discussions like this could help us put ideas together to determine the best approach/es to eradicating poverty and speeding development in Africa. This is a topic that is being hotly debated in the last couple of years in light of the controversial outcomes of economic reforms undertaken in many African countries.
Mostafa
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:16:59 -0400 (EDT) From: ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: political violence (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.960924131520.15228B-100000@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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Gambia-l:
There you have it..... intimidation and violence in the runup to the elections.
Amadou
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BANJUL, Sept 23 (Reuter) - The main challenger to Gambia's military= leader Yahya Jammeh in this week's presidential election said on Monday = that 36 of his supporters had been taken to hospital after being beaten b= y soldiers. =
=0D ``They brutalised my supporters and seized some of their cars,'' said= Ousainou Darboe, leader of the United Democratic Party (UDP), at a news = conference on Sunday's incident. =
=0D Witnesses said soldiers were called in when police failed to stop fig= hting between Darboe's supporters and those of Jammeh's Alliance for Patr= iotic Reorientation and Construction (APRC). =
=0D They said UDP supporters had lined the road at Churchill's Town, 15 k= m (10 miles) west of Banjul, to greet Darboe who was returning from a cam= paign tour in the interior. =
=0D Jammeh's motorcade was pelted with stones as it drove past, prompting= an outbreak of fighting. Jammeh passed through, apparently unharmed, but= some witnesses said his own car was also stoned. =
=0D ``It took the soldiers more than two hours before the crisis came to = an end,'' one witness said. =
=0D About 100 people were arrested, including many wearing UDP T-shirts, = the witnesses said. Darboe delayed his return to Banjul for hours. =
=0D Reporters who visited the hospital said they saw about two dozen UDP = supporters, most with light injuries. A few appeared to have been hit by = some blunt object, they said. =
=0D Darboe, vice-president of the Gambia Bar Association, accused the arm= y of backing Jammeh, who seized power in a 1994 coup and left the army in= August to seek a popular mandate. =
=0D He said Jammeh had politicised the army, police and National Intellig= ence Agency, with their heads sporting Jammeh badges. =
=0D ``They should be neutral and protect all citizens of this country,'' = Darboe told the news conference. =
=0D There was no comment from Jammeh's camp or from the security services= accused by Darboe. =
=0D The opposition leader said his campaign tour convinced him he would w= in 60 percent of the vote. Jammeh for his part has predicted a 99 percent= electoral sweep. The winner needs only a simple majority, under the cons= titution. =
=0D All the four parties contesting the election were focusing their driv= e for votes on the capital Banjul on Monday ahead of the official close o= f campaigning at midnight on Tuesday. =
=0D Two lesser candidates are running but political analysts say the race= was really between Darboe and Jammeh and that the race was too close to = call. =
=0D 15:17 09-23-96 =0D
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:39:13 -0500 (CDT) From: JAWARAMB@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu To: GAMBIA-L@U.WASHINGTON.EDU Subject: GAMBIANS BEING USED AS POLITICAL GUINEA PIGS Message-ID: <01I9UTV2SORU8XHPPV@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Politically if anything the last two years have been a period of political experimenting on the people of The Gambia. The military Junta served in the capacity of Scientists and the citizens as Guinea Pigs. Each time the experiment is conducted, the scientists claim an overwhelming success rate. The last experiment that will break the Camel's back will take place on thursday. Already Folks,the chief Scientist is predicting a 99% success rate....what a genius. Is this a new page in the books of political science OR a sheer naivite of Gambians? You answer it because I don't know. DR.KING reminds us that injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. My friends the moment is now to send unambiguous statement to our oppressed people at home that we are with them to the very end and we will not rest untill freedom and decency is restored to them. My friends this is a very serious situation and we must join heads to avoid a disaster. Please come up with suggestion as to the way to undertake this herculean task. The urgency of the situation cannot be overemphasized. MUSA VANDERBILT.
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:22:56 -0500 (EST) From: Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: CONGRESS-IMMIGRATION. Message-ID: <01I9UZ2KMIWY002SK7@PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
DATE=9/24/96 TYPE=CORRESPONDENT REPORT NUMBER=2-203568 TITLE=CONGRESS/IMMIGRATION (S) BYLINE=DAVID SWAN DATELINE=SENATE CONTENT= VOICED AT:
INTRO: THE U-S CONGRESS IS EXPECTED TO MOVE AHEAD WITH A BILL TO CRACK DOWN ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, AFTER REPUBLICAN LEADERS DECIDED TO DROP THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL PROVISION. SENATE CORRESPONDENT DAVID SWAN HAS DETAILS.
TEXT: THE MEASURE WOULD HAVE ALLOWED THE STATES TO REFUSE FREE PUBLIC EDUCATION TO THE CHILDREN OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. DESPITE SEVERAL ATTEMPTS AT COMPROMISE, THE PLAN DREW STIFF OPPOSITION FROM DEMOCRATS AND A VETO THREAT FROM PRESIDENT CLINTON.
WHILE MANY REPUBLICANS ARGUE THE PROPOSAL IS NEEDED, THEY AGREED TO SET IT ASIDE TO MOVE THE REST OF THE IMMIGRATION PACKAGE THROUGH CONGRESS AND ON TO THE WHITE HOUSE. SENATE MAJORITY LEADER TRENT LOTT SAYS THE ISSUE IS TOO IMPORTANT TO LET THE BILL FAIL OVER ANY ONE PROVISION.
// LOTT ACT //
THE REASON WHY WE WANT IT DONE IS BECAUSE THE COUNTRY NEEDS US TO FACE UP TO THIS PROBLEM OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND TO HAVE SOME GREATER EFFORT TO CONTROL OUR BORDERS, TO DEAL WITH FRAUD.
// END ACT //
THE BILL WOULD NEARLY DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THE FEDERAL BORDER PATROL AND TOUGHEN THE PENALTIES FOR SMUGGLING ALIENS INTO THE COUNTRY OR USING BOGUS DOCUMENTS. THE HOUSE AND SENATE ARE EXPECTED TO VOTE ON THE PLAN BEFORE ADJOURNING FOR THE YEAR, SOMETIME IN THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. (SIGNED)
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:54:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Yaya Jallow <yj0001@jove.acs.unt.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Reuters News From Gambia.... Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.960924113151.4380A-100000@jove.acs.unt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, mostafa jersey marong wrote:
> At 09:05 PM 9/23/96 -0400, you wrote: > > > >Hello brothers & sisters, > > > >This is Famara again from Abdou's address. > > > >It is very said to learn about the episodes reported by reuter and others > >on the net. I am one of the "neverconvertible" anti-PPP, but as far as I > >remember, there was mainly dancing and singing and partying during > >election times, (those older can correct me) in addition to the > >personality attacks of course. I strongly believe that, that type of > >"politikking" was very backward, but it always took place in a peaceful > >atmosphere. We are not yet sure who is responsible for the violences, but > >we should all strongly condemn this barbaric form of "politikking". I hope > >Jammeh will put this to an absolute end, and if he himself is giving the > >green light for such activities (which I hope not) "SHAME ON HIM". > > > >Regarding the political detainees I agree with the list members appealing > >for the release of all political detainees. Whether it a "bunch" or many. > >If the detainees are just a bunch then they should not pose any > >security threats to the regime. As one of the list members said we should > >remember that the detaineees are brothers, sisters, fathers, uncles, > >mothers and so on. > > > >Lastly, I will like to say to those who believe PDOIS to be the REAL > >alternative, who at the same time talk about "they know they cannot win". > >The programme of UDP (thanks Morro for posting it) clearly shows that they > >are following Jawara's footsteps. > >The Market has never and will never eradicate poverty. We should have well > >thought redistributive systems which cater for social justice and which > >will not at the same time discourage personal initiatives or should I say > >innovation. > >If we all are thinking in that way that is PDOIS cannot win then we will > >never have a real change. > >I think it is time for us to start saying"THEY CAN WIN". It may be a > >bit too late to mobilise for more support, for the 1996 Presidential > >elections, but the parliamentary elections are coming, INSALLAH" I guess > >Musa likes that word. > >Have a nice elction day everyone. > >Shalom, > >Famara. > > > >******************************************************************************* > >A. TOURAY. > >at137@columbia.edu > >abdou@cs.columbia.edu > >abdou@touchscreen.com > >(212) 749-7971 > >MY URL's ON THE WWW= http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~at137 > > http://www.psl.cs.columbia.edu/~abdou > > > >A FINITE IN A LAND OF INFINITY. > >SEEKING BUT THE REACHABLE. > >I WANDER AND I WONDER. > >ALL RESPITE IS FINAL. > >******************************************************************************* > > > FAMARA; > Thanks for your posting. I am really interested in discussing further two > issues you raised and they are: > > 1) You said "the market has never and will never eradicate poverty". I would > like you to elaborate on this more. Specifically, could provide a better > alternative to market/s or a system that is better suited to eradicating > poverty (with realistically attainable objectives and one that will be > sustainable in the long term); > > 11) that "we should have well thought redistributive system" is another area > i want us to talk about more. Could you please tell me what type of system > you have in mind or would sugest. > > Gambia-l is now blessed with highly educated people and I think discussions > like this could help us put ideas together to determine the best approach/es > to eradicating poverty and speeding development in Africa. This is a topic > that is being hotly debated in the last couple of years in light of the > controversial outcomes of economic reforms undertaken in many African > countries. > > Mostafa >
Famara,
I join Mostafa in pursuing further your line of thought in the kind of "redistributive" system that you believe will eradicate poverty in the Gmabian context. Remembering that Gambia is blessed with limited resources with which the government can exploit and help the poor, are you insinuating that a massive tax system be imposed on other hard working Gambians to help alleviate the poverty of other Gambians some of whom I believe are sometimes not simply willing to step up to the plate. Even if the Gambia is blessed with natural resources I do not believe that it is the role of government to get into the business of exploiting them. The record of the Gambia's public agencies speaks for themselves.
Having said the above though, I certainly do believe that government can provide the right kind of environment for businesses to flourish and survive, e.g security. Creating opportunities for Gambians is the key and not a bereucratic system of handouts.
Yaya
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:22:03 -0400 (EDT) From: at137@columbia.edu To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: cnet clip, Reuters Africa Highlights / [Sep 24] [ 47] Reuters Message-ID: <199609242122.RAA04125@shalom.cc.columbia.edu>
MOGADISHU - Ethiopian forces fired artillery across the border into a Somali town night after shells fired at each other by rival Somali factions landed on the Ethiopian side, residents said. Somali militiamen of the Muslim fundamentalist al-Ittihad al-Islam group said they had killed five Ethiopian soldiers and lost eight of their own men in the fight for Dolow town. - - - - BANJUL - Residents of Gambia's capital Banjul besieged shops to stock up, two days before presidential elections marred by campaign violence. The government has declared a two-day holiday in the tiny West African state from polling day Thursday and paid civil servants their September salaries. - - - - JOHANNESBURG - South Africa's ruling African National Congress (ANC) will hold talks with its rival Inkatha Freedom Party (IFP) on amending disputed portions of the new constitution, a spokesman said Tuesday. JOHANNESBURG - President Nelson Mandela unveiled a monument to the composer of the hymn that is the national anthem of three African states, calling it the torch that lit South Africa's path to freedom. - - - - NAIROBI - One of Kenya's biggest supermarket chains said its stores were ordered closed last week after it refused to pay a massive bribe. Nakumatt Holdings Ltd. took full-page advertisements in Kenyan newspapers to publish a statement saying a mad cow disease scare was a pretext and linking the commerce ministry's closure order with anti-Asian sentiment.
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 23:20:17 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: kolls567@qatar.net.qa Subject: New member Message-ID: <19960924221757.AAD21996@LOCALNAME>
Abdou/Tony, Please add Basirou Drammeh to the list. Bass lives in Qatar and will send an introduction as soon as he is added. His e-mail is: kolls567@qatar.net.qa
My best regards to all! Momodou Camara
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:32:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: New Members Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.92a.960924172924.32253B-100000@saul7.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Basirou Drammeh and Karamba Touray have been added to the list. Thanks to Momodou Camara and Musa Jawara for spreading the word and bringing them onboard. We will be looking forward to their introductions and contributions. We welcome them. Thanks Tony
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 03:58:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Sulayman Nyang <nyang@cldc.howard.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu>, ;@cldc.howard.edu Subject: Re: Imminent political chaos. Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.960925035509.6916A-100000@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
From: Sulayman S. Nyang (nyang@cldc.howard.edu)
I did not complete the last sentence of my brief piece on the elections.The missing words in the last sentence are "...military rule." I hope the message was loud and clear to those who had the opportunity to read it.
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 08:16:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Imminent political chaos. Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960925081530.8250B-100000@saul5.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Dr Nyang, your previous message was eloquent, loud, clear and well written. Thanks Tony
On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Sulayman Nyang wrote:
> From: Sulayman S. Nyang (nyang@cldc.howard.edu) > > I did not complete the last sentence of my brief piece on the > elections.The missing words in the last sentence are "...military rule." > I hope the message was loud and clear to those who had the opportunity to > read it. > >
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 96 18:00:45 GMT From: mmjeng@image.dk (Matarr M. Jeng.) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu (The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List) Subject: Ellections Greetings. Message-ID: <M.092596.200045.87@ip86.image.dk>
This is not Christmas Greetings but " Ellections Greetings". I wish and pray for a peaceful and free and fair presidental ellections tomorrow Thursday the 26th. September 1996. Best wishes to our country people in our mother/father land the Gambia and to all those Gambians abroad and in particular to our Gambia List Members. As we go to bed tonight, we hope and pray that tommorrows presidental elections goes free and fair and very peaceful, if not very, very peaceful. Lets hope for the best and lets keep in touch. I love my country.
Abdou, Thank you for thanking me. I really appericiate it as it will let others do the same especially now with the elections fever, everyone is eager to hear the latest or even old news that makes news. Finally, Hearty welcome to all the new members. ---- Matarr M. Jeng. mmjeng@image.dk
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Date: 25 Sep 1996 19:18:55 GMT From: momodou@inform-bbs.dk (Momodou Camara) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Fwd: Pan-African News Agency staff suspend pay strike Message-ID: <2644901854.32338901@inform-bbs.dk>
Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit
Pan-African News Agency staff suspend pay strike
DAKAR, Sept 18 (Reuter) - Journalists at the headquarters of the Pan-African News Agency (PANA) in Dakar suspended a week-long strike on Wednesday, saying they had received assurances their pay arrears would be cleared. A statement from the strikers said they had agreed to return to work on Thursday after receiving a message from Nigerian Information Minister Walter Ofonagoro, the PANA board chairman. ``Nigeria is committed to seeing that arrears owed to the PANA staff are cleared and their salaries paid regularly,'' the statement quoted the minister as saying. The journalists, working as editors at the agency's headquaters, went on strike on September 12 to back their demands for the payment of several months of arrears of salary and other benefits. PANA was established by African governments in 1979 to increase information flow within Africa and from the continent and the rest of the world. But it has has suffered from inadequate funding with member countries owing contribution arrears of up to $31 million. A recovery plan initiated in 1993 to make PANA independent and commercially viable through an expanded and diversified ownership structure has so far failed to take off.
Copyright 1996, Reuters News Service
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Momodou Camara --- OffRoad 1.9o registered to Momodou Camara
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:56:14 -0500 From: mostafa jersey marong <mbmarong@students.wisc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Ellections Greetings. Message-ID: <199609251856.NAA92909@audumla.students.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 06:00 PM 9/25/96 GMT, you wrote: >This is not Christmas Greetings but " Ellections Greetings". >I wish and pray for a peaceful and free and fair presidental ellections tomorrow >Thursday the 26th. September 1996. >Best wishes to our country people in our mother/father land the Gambia and to all >those Gambians abroad and in particular to our Gambia List Members. >As we go to bed tonight, we hope and pray that tommorrows presidental elections goes >free and fair and very peaceful, if not very, very peaceful. > Lets hope for the best and lets keep in touch. > > I love my country. > >Abdou, Thank you for thanking me. I really appericiate it as it will let others do >the same especially now with the elections fever, everyone is eager to hear the >latest or even old news that makes news. >Finally, Hearty welcome to all the new members. >---- >Matarr M. Jeng. mmjeng@image.dk
MATARR; Aaammeeen! Chi Darajai Rasooul. Mostafa
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:46:01 EDT From: "BOJANG,BUBA" <BBOJANG@MUSIC.TRANSY.EDU> To: <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Message-ID: <25SEP96.17028329.0062.MUSIC@MUSIC.TRANSY.EDU>
In the name of God the beneficient, the merciful.
Brothers and Sisters, If my message was clearly understood, I didn't say education is not important, but comparing Jawara's achievement to Yaya's,when Jawara is far more educated than Yaya, one will not be wrong to say that education matterless when a semi illiterate was able to more than well educated one. Mr. Jeng urged all of us to pray to God for Tomorrow's election to run smoothly and fairly. Thank you for the advice and I hope we will make it a point of duty to do that. Let us take that as our contri bution towards the election. No one knows whose prayer will be acc epted by God so in addition to his, after our "ISHAI" prayer or the last prayer for the day, let us all spread infront of us the HOLY QUARAN, recite as much as we can for God's assistance over the elections. As a tradition almost all the Mosque in the country will carry out recitation this night. Let us bear in mind that violence cannot be avoided Tomorrow no matter whoever wins, but we can pray to God to control it. Who ever call home Tomorrow to find out about the situation going on ther, please post the response as soon as possible,because some us are going to be with the computer for the whole day until we are clear about the results. Wish everybody a good night and I pray to God so that Tomorrow most of us can be dissapointed about our predictions on the election.May God save The Gambia and all other countries. May God makes he victoriou s who will have concern for the Gambians and through whom Gambia will get back to its recognition as the most stable country in the world. Remember we are four or five hours different so one should start prayers before Gambians get prepared to go to the polling stations. No doubt we will be protected. REMEMBER"a leaf that was blown aloof by the wing will definitely come back to the mother earth."
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 17:38:06 -0500 (CDT) From: JAWARAMB@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu To: GAMBIA-L@U.WASHINGTON.EDU Subject: ENDORSEMENT Message-ID: <01I9WIUSAAZ68XIZQI@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Members must have observed in my previous postings that I have been very critical of the Junta and was pressing the need for their ouster in the face of a great threat to our survival as a viable democratic nation. I fervently believe that the best possible chance available to remove Jammeh from power rest on Lawer Dabo's success in tomorrow's elections. However, I do have strong reservations on the terms and conditions under which the elections are being held-we must ooze ahead and make the best out of the worse circumstances as The Gambia is. DABO'S CANDIDATURE DID TWO THINGS POSSIBLE: 1) Stood up against the reign of terror 2)Proded Gambians not to give in to black mail, intimidation, or other forms terror..etc. My friends, at a tremendous risk to his personal safety , he put up a formidable challenge to Jammeh in every nook and cranny of the country. Very few of us would be prepared to do so. He is a HERO in capital letters. Against this backdrop, I whole heartedly support LAWER DABO to be the next president of the republic of The Gambia. GOOD LUCK DABO AND GOOD'S SPEED. MUSA BASSADI JAWARA VANDERBILT.
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:23:41 -0500 (EST) From: Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: GAMBIA_ELECTION_SCENESETTER. Message-ID: <01I9XH78HI36003VK8@PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
DATE=9/25/96 TYPE=CORRESPONDENT REPORT NUMBER=2-203674 TITLE=GAMBIA ELECTION SCENESETTER (L-ONLY) BYLINE=PURNELL MURDOCK DATELINE=BANJUL CONTENT=
VOICED AT:
INTRO: GAMBIANS GO TO THE POLLS TODAY (THURSDAY) TO ELECT A CIVILIAN GOVERNMENT AFTER TWO YEARS OF MILITARY RULE. FROM THE GAMBIAN CAPITAL, BANJUL, V-O-A CORRESPONDENT PURNELL MURDOCK REPORTS THE LEAD UP TO ELECTIONS HAS BEEN MARKED BY CONTROVERSY.
TEXT: WHAT HAS CONCERNED WESTERN GOVERNMENTS AND INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS IS GAMBIA'S NEWLY RATIFIED CONSTITUTION. AS GAMBIANS VOTED TO ADOPT THE NEW LAWS, CRITICS WARNED IT CARRIED PROVISIONS THAT THREATEN HUMAN RIGHTS.
AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE CONSTITUTION SET AGE LIMITS ON THE PRESIDENCY THAT SOME SAY WERE WRITTEN TO EXCLUDE POLITICAL LEADERS, SUCH AS OUSTED PRESIDENT SIR DAWDA JAWARA, AND ALLOW MILITARY RULER COLONEL YAHYA JAMMEH TO QUALIFY FOR THE HIGH OFFICE. IT ALSO ADDED PROVISIONS ALLOWING A CANDIDATE TO BE ELECTED UNOPPOSED.
SHORTLY AFTER THE CONSTITUTION WAS ADOPTED, THE MILITARY RULER BANNED THE COUNTRY'S MAIN POLITICAL LEADERS FROM CONTESTING IN THE ELECTION, CLEARING THE WAY FOR HIM TO RUN WITHOUT SERIOUS COMPETITION.
THE COMMONWEALTH OF FORMER BRITISH COLONIES CONDEMNED THE RULES GOVERNING THE ELECTION AS BEING FLAWED AND ALLOWING MILITARY LEADERS TO STRENGTHEN THEIR HOLD ON POWER.
OUSAINOU DARBA, ONE OF THREE CHALLENGERS IN THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE, AND THE CANDIDATE SEEN AS HAVING THE BEST CHANCE TO BEAT COLONEL JAMMEH, AGREES.
/// DARBO ACT ///
WHEN THE CONSTITUTIONAL REVIEW COMMISSION INTERVIEWED GAMBIANS THERE WERE SUGGESTIONS -- AND IN FACT EVEN SUGGESTIONS FROM THE PROFESSIONAL BODIES LIKE THE BAR ASSOCIATION -- THAT THE TERM OF THE PRESIDENCY SHOULD BE LIMITED TO A TWO-TERM OF FIVE YEARS EACH. BUT THEY REMOVED THAT. AND IRONICALLY, IN THE PREAMBLE TO THE CONSTITUTION, THEY MADE REFERENCE TO THE SELF-PERPETUATING RULE OF (SIR DAWDA) JAWARA. BUT THEY WOULD NOT ACCEPT LIMITING THE TIME OF THE PRESIDENCY. AND ALL THAT WAS DONE DESIGNEDLY BECAUSE THEY HAD PLANNED TO BAN ALL OTHER POLITICIANS WHO HAVE ANY CHANCE OF WINNING ELECTIONS. AND THEY WOULD JUST COME IN EASILY AND THEN PERPETUATE THEMSELVES IN POWER FOR AS LONG AS THEY WANT.
/// END ACT ///
MR. DARBO SAYS HE HAS NOT RULED OUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT ELEMENTS WITHIN THE MILITARY MIGHT INTERVENE AND RE-TAKE POWER IF THEY DO NOT LIKE THE OUTCOME OF THE POLLING. BUT HE SAYS IF THEY DO, THEY WILL HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE CITIZENS OF GAMBIA.
/// DARBO ACT ///
WHEN THE PEOPLE GO TO THE POLLS, AND EXPRESS THEIR WISH AGAINST THEM, THEN IT WILL BE THEM AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF THE GAMBIA.
/// END ACT ///
SOME OBSERVERS SAY THERE ARE DISTURBING SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE ELECTION IN GAMBIA AND OTHER RECENT POLLS IN WEST AND CENTRAL AFRICA WHERE MILITARY DICTATORS HAVE SOUGHT TO MAINTAIN POWER AND SATISFY THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY'S DEMANDS FOR DEMOCRATIC REFORMS.
SOME 80 OBSERVERS ARE ON HAND TO MONITOR THE VOTE. DIPLOMATS SAY THEY WILL CONTINUE TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE COUNTRY'S LEADERS IF GAMBIA'S ELECTION ARE NOT FOUND TO HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED FAIRLY. PRELIMINARY RESULTS ARE EXPECTED BY FRIDAY. (SIGNED)
NEB/WPM/LWM
25-Sep-96 10:25 PM EDT (0225 UTC) NNNN
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:39:15 -0400 (EDT) From: at137@columbia.edu To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: cnet clip, Gambia's army rulers seek legitimacy t [ 55] Reuter / John Chiahe Message-ID: <199609261339.JAA04254@salaam.cc.columbia.edu>
Path: news.columbia.edu!news.columbia.edu!baroque.clari.net!soprano.clari.net!e.news Comment: O:4.0H; Distribution: cl-3,cl-edu,cl-4 From: C-reuters@clari.net (Reuter / John Chiahemen) Newsgroups: clari.world.africa.western Subject: Gambia's army rulers seek legitimacy through polls Keywords: urgent Organization: Copyright 1996 by Reuters Message-ID: <RgambiaURTBZ_6SP@clari.net> Lines: 55 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:30:11 PDT Expires: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:30:11 PDT ACategory: international Slugword: GAMBIA Threadword: gambia Priority: important ANPA: Wc: 509/0; Id: a2718; Src: reut; Sel: reute; Adate: 09-25-N.A; V: (SCHEDULED) Approved: e.news@clari.net
BANJUL, Sept 26 (Reuter) - Gambians vote on Thursday in presidential elections intended to restore democracy in the West African state, but the young army officer who shot his way to power two years ago looks set to win the poll. Military leader Yahya Jammeh is expected to vote early in the capital Banjul when polls open at 7.00 a.m. (0700 GMT). They close at 6.00 p.m. when the just over 440,000 registered voters are expected to have cast their ballots in 582 polling stations. Jammeh toppled an elected government in a 1994 coup but international pressure forced him to speed up a transition to democracy, resigning from the army last month to seek election in a field including three civilian challengers. If Jammeh wins, the military would have placed themselves in a position to shape the destiny of the West African nation of one million people for some time, political analysts say. He is still the head of the military ruling council, some of whose members are the driving force of his party, the Alliance for Patriotic Orientation and Construction (APRC). Jammeh has banned the main opposition parties and politicians close to the civilian leader he overthrew -- veteran president Sir Dawda Jawara, since exiled in Britain, which ruled Gambia until independence in 1965. He has won praise from many Gambians for implementing visible social and infrastructure projects such as television, non-existent in Gambia until Jammeh took power. Jammeh has also improved electricity supply and built schools and hospitals. Many Gambians expect the race to be close between him and prominent lawyer Ousainou Darboe of the United Democratic Party (UDP), who is backed by the a much larger tribe -- Jawara's Mandinka people forming 40 percent of the population. Jammeh's Jola tribe accounts for only 10 percent. But Jammeh appears to have made up for this with effective use of state power, including virtual monopoly of state media, notably television. He gets about four hours of television exposure daily -- probably longer for state radio. Darboe and the two other opposition candidates are virtually excluded from state media. The government justified this by saying they had misused their broadcast time by abusing Jammeh. The other presidentianl contenders are Sidia Jatta of the small People's Democratic Organisation for Independence and Socialism, who stood against Jawara in 1992, and hotel manager Amath Bah of the National Reconciliation Party (NRP). Neither is expected to make a serious impact on the election. The runup to election day has been marked by violent clashes between supporters of the two main rivals, during which the army and police were accused by Darboe of beating up his supporters. Electoral commissioner Gabriel Roberts issued a statement after the worst clashes last Sunday, calling on the army to show neutrality. ``We repeat our call, issued at the beginning of the campaign for all soldiers to remain politically neutral,'' he said.
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:45:41 -0400 (EDT) From: at137@columbia.edu To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: cnet clip, Gambia -- one of Africa's smallest sta [ 76] Reuters Message-ID: <199609261345.JAA04775@salaam.cc.columbia.edu>
Path: news.columbia.edu!news.columbia.edu!baroque.clari.net!soprano.clari.net!e.news Comment: O:4.0H; Distribution: cl-3,cl-edu,cl-4 From: C-reuters@clari.net (Reuters) Newsgroups: clari.world.africa.western Subject: Gambia -- one of Africa's smallest states Keywords: urgent Organization: Copyright 1996 by Reuters Message-ID: <Rgambia-profileURuLP_6SP@clari.net> Lines: 76 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:40:08 PDT Expires: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:40:08 PDT ACategory: international Slugword: GAMBIA-PROFILE Threadword: gambia Priority: important ANPA: Wc: 675/0; Id: a2723; Src: reut; Sel: reute; Adate: 09-25-N.A Approved: e.news@clari.net
BANJUL, Sept 26 (Reuter) - Tiny Gambia, one of Africa's smallest states, holds a presidential election on Thursday with 1994 coup leader Colonel Yahya Jammeh seeking legitimacy through the ballot box. Born of British and French colonial rivalry in the 19th century and surrounded by Francophone Senegal, the West African tourist haven and groundnut producer won independence from Britain in 1965. Jammeh, 31, toppled the mainly Moslem nation's civilian independence president Sir Dawda Jawara in a bloodless coup in July 1994 accusing him of corruption. Jammeh has strengthened ties with Libya and Taiwan as links with Gambia's traditional Western partners have cooled. Critics have denounced arbitrary arrests, clampdowns on the press and frequent changes to cabinet posts but Jammeh bowed to international pressure by modifying his initial plan to delay elections until 1998. Parliamentary elections are planned for December 11. Following are key facts about Gambia: POPULATION - 1.1 million (1994 World Bank estimate). Ethnic groups: Mandinka, Fula, Wolof, Jola, Serahuli, and a small Creole, or Aku, community. LANGUAGE: English (official). RELIGION: Moslem (85 per cent), Christian and animist. CAPITAL: Banjul (population: 60,000). AREA - 11,300 sq km (4,360 sq miles). Finger-shaped Gambia is 50 km wide by 350 km long, named after the river that flows through it and is surrounded by Senegal except for a short Atlantic coastline. ARMED FORCES - 800 members of the army plus a 70-member marine unit with four inshore patrol boats. (Source: International Institute for Strategic Studies, The Military Balance 1995-96). ECONOMY - Gross National Product: $363 million (1994). Per capita GNP $330 (1994) External debt (1994): $419 million. (Source: World Bank) Currency: dalasi ($1-9.8 dalasi) Exports: groundnuts, cotton, rice, fish. Tourism from Western Europe is also a major source of foreign exchange. Gambia's economy is based on growing and processing of groundnuts, and on tourism, which was hard hit by the 1994 coup. A 1994 devaluation of the CFA franc regional currency used in neighbouring Senegal damaged a valuable re-export trade. Many foreign donors suspended or reduced development aid after the coup, though Libya and Taiwan have increased cooperation. Foreign exchange reserves have dropped, but the dalasi has maintained its value. HISTORY - A British protectorate since 1888, Gambia gained independence in 1965 as a constitutional monarchy. Jawara, a Scottish-trained veterinary surgeon, was named prime minister in 1962 after his People's Progressive Party won elections. In April 1970, Gambia became a republic with Jawara as president. Jawara survived a coup attempt by leftists in 1981 thanks to the intervention of Senegalese troops. The abortive coup, in which hundreds of people died, prompted Jawara to sign a loose confederation treaty with Senegal. The pact collapsed in August 1989, mainly because of Gambia's reluctance to speed up trade and customs union for fear of losing its identity. In July 1994, a group of young army lieutenants led by Jammeh seized power and Jawara went into exile. The Armed Forces Provisional Ruling Council suspended the constitution and banned political parties. In November 1994, Jammeh survived an attempted counter-coup from within the army in which several people were killed. In January 1995, he sacked his vice-chairman and interior minister, accusing them of planning to kill him and seize power. Jammeh initially said he planned to stay in power until the end of 1998 but reduced the transition to two years after a storm of international protest. Before the coup, Gambia had several opposition parties, including the National Convention Party led by former vice-president Sherif Mustapha Dibba, and the Gambia People's Party, led by another former vice-president, Assan Musa Camara. Jammeh, who left the army to contest the poll, barred all politicians who had served with Jawara from standing for election.
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:48:51 -0400 (EDT) From: at137@columbia.edu To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: cnet clip, Voting starts in Gambia presidential p [ 34] Reuters Message-ID: <199609261348.JAA05041@salaam.cc.columbia.edu>
Path: news.columbia.edu!news.columbia.edu!news2.clari.net!soprano.clari.net!e.news Comment: O:4.1H; Distribution: cl-3,cl-edu,cl-4 Approved: editor@clarinet.com From: C-reuters@clari.net (Reuters) Newsgroups: clari.world.africa.western,clari.world.gov.politics Subject: Voting starts in Gambia presidential poll Keywords: urgent Organization: Copyright 1996 by Reuters Message-ID: <Rgambia-votingURcOk_6SQ@clari.net> Lines: 34 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 1:50:11 PDT Expires: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 1:50:11 PDT ACategory: international Slugword: GAMBIA-VOTING Threadword: gambia Priority: important ANPA: Wc: 301/0; Id: a0366; Src: reut; Sel: reute; Adate: 09-26-N.A Xref: news.columbia.edu clari.world.africa.western:2968 clari.world.gov.politics:13596
BANJUL, Sept 26 (Reuter) - Long but orderly queues formed in front of polling stations on Thursday as Gambia voted to restore democracy after two years of military rule. Thirty minutes after polls opened at 7 a.m. (0700 GMT), many voters in the capital Banjul had cast their ballots with no visible sign of organisational chaos that has bedevilled recent elections in West Africa. Voting ends at 6 p.m. ``It's done,'' said a veiled Moslem woman at Banjul City Council polling station, showing off her finger stained with indelible ink to prevent multiple voting. A short walk up the street at the National Arts Council polling station, a long queue snaked out onto the pavement from polling booths in a courtyard. There was no obvious security force presence except for a handful of unarmed police. Voters appeared in a jovial mood, in contrast to campaign violence in the runup to voting. Military leader Colonel Yahya Jammeh looks well-placed to be endorsed at the ballot box despite a challenge from three civilian contenders, including popular lawyer Ousanou Darboe of the United Democratic Party (UD). Their rival supporters clashed in the final days of the campaign, prompting fear of unrest during and after the vote. In a statement on the eve of polling, Jammeh ordered Gambians to stay at home after casting their ballots and await the announcement of results on the radio. Results were expected to start coming in later on Thursday and the winner, to be decided by a simple majority, could be known as early as Friday, electoral officials said. The other contenders are Sidia Jatta of the small People's Democratic Organisation for Independence and Socialism, who stood against Jawara in 1992, and hotel manager Amath Bah of the National Reconciliation Party (NRP).
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:15:50 -0600 From: ndarboe@olemiss.edu To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: gopher://gopher.voa.gov:70/11/newswire/wed Message-ID: <v01510100ae6feba17295@[130.74.64.43]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hope you will enjoy some of it? Kinda stale.
Numukunda
DATE=9/25/96 TYPE=CORRESPONDENT REPORT NUMBER=2-203655 TITLE=GAMBIA ELECTION SCENESETTER (L-ONLY) BYLINE=PURNELL MURDOCK DATELINE=BANJUL CONTENT= VOICED AT:
INTRO: GAMBIANS GO TO THE POLLS THURSDAY IN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AIMED AT RESTORING CIVILIAN RULE IN THE COUNTRY, FOLLOWING TWO YEARS OF MILITARY CONTROL. FROM THE GAMBIAN CAPITAL, BANJUL, V-O-A CORRESPONDENT PURNELL MURDOCK REPORTS RECENT CAMPAIGN VIOLENCE HAS INCREASED TENSION AHEAD OF THE VOTE.
TEXT: MILITARY RULER COLONEL YAHYA JAMMEH AND HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYER OUSAINOU DARBO ARE CONSIDERED THE TOP RUNNERS IN THE FOUR-MAN RACE.
COLONEL JAMMEH, WHO RECENTLY RESIGNED FROM THE MILITARY TO RUN AS A CIVILIAN, IS SEEKING TO RETAIN HIS HOLD ON POLITICAL POWER.
CAPAIGNING FOR THE ELECTION WAS BRIEF BUT CONTENTIOUS, WITH OPPONENTS OF THE MILITARY RULER COMPLAINING THEY WERE NOT GIVEN THE SAME PUBLIC EXPOSURE AND TELEVISION AIR TIME AS COLONEL JAMMEH. THE CAMPAIGN WAS ALSO MARKED BY VIOLENCE THIS PAST WEEKEND, WHEN SUPPORTERS OF THE MILITARY LEADER CLASHED WITH MR. DARBO'S SUPPORTERS.
THE NATIONAL ELECTORAL COMMISSION HAS CALLED FOR CALM, SAYING BOTH SIDES, AS WELL AS SOLDIERS IN UNIFORM, HAD BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR NUMEROUS INCIDENTS DURING THE ELECTION CAMPAIGN.
WHILE GAMBIAN CITIZENS AWAIT THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE, SOME SAY THEY ARE POSITIVE THE ELECTION WILL BE PEACEFUL.
/// ACT OF YOUNG MAN ///
YES, 100 PERCENT. TOMORROW THERE WILL BE NO PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY. I CAN GIVE YOU THAT ASSURANCE, THAT TOMORROW THERE WILL BE NO PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY. THERE WILL BE FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS, BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE AN INDEPENDENT ELECTORAL COMMISSION, WHICH WE HAVE NEVER HAD BEFORE. AND THIS REGIME IS REALLY DOING WELL. EVEN IF THEY DON'T WIN, PEOPLE WILL KNOW THAT THEY HAVE DONE THEIR VERY BEST DURING THIS TWO-YEAR TRANSITION.
/// END ACT ///
MR. DARBO SAYS HE HAS BEEN GIVEN ASSURANCES BY THE ELECTORAL COMMISSION AND THE MILITARY GOVERNMENT THAT VOTING WILL BE CONDUCTED FAIRLY. BUT HE HAS NOT RULED OUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT ELEMENTS WITHIN THE MILITARY MIGHT INTERVENE AND RE-TAKE POWER IF THEY DO NOT LIKE THE OUTCOME OF THE POLLING.
/// DARBO ACT ///
WELL, IT IS POSSIBLE. IT IS POSSIBLE. BUT AS I SAY, THE DEGREE OF AVERSION FOR MILITARY RULE IN THE GAMBIA IS SO HIGH THAT IT WOULD BE VERY FOOLISH OF THEM (THE MILITARY) TO DO THAT. AND ONE REASON IS THAT IT IS NOT THE ENTIRE GAMBIAN ARMY THAT IS IN FAVOR OF YAHYA JAMMEH.
/// END ACT ///
COLONEL JAMMEH STAGED A BLOODLESS COUP IN JULY, 1994, CLAIMING HE WANTED TO RID GAMBIA OF THE CORRUPT GOVERNMENT THAT RULED THE SMALL WEST AFRICAN NATION FOR 30 YEARS SINCE INDEPENDENCE FROM GREAT BRITAIN.
SINCE THEN, HE HAS EMBARKED ON A NUMBER OF PROJECTS, WHICH SOME GAMBIANS SEE AS EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE YOUNG CANDIDATE CAN DO FOR THE COUNTRY.
/// ACT OF YOUNG GAMBIAN MAN ///
I HAVE PUT ALL MY TRUST ON HIM, SIMPLY BECAUSE I SEE THE DEVELOPMENT HE IS DOING IN THIS COUNTRY. I HAVE SEEN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HE MADE SINCE HE TOOK OVER. LIKE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE AIRPORT TERMINAL, BUILDING SCHOOLS, AND HOSPITALS.
/// END ACT ///
MR. DARBO SAYS YAHYA JAMMEH HAS STARTED COSMETIC PROJECTS AIMED AT BEAUTIFYING GAMBIA. BUT HE SAYS THE MILITARY LEADER HAS DONE NOTHING TO DEVELOP THE NATION.
/// DARBO ACT ///
WHEN YOU VIEW ALL THIS IN THEIR REAL PERSPECTIVE, YOU WILL SEE THAT IT IS A CALLOUS WASTE OF PUBLIC FUNDS. THOSE FUNDS OUGHT TO GO TO PLACES OR INTO SECTORS THAT REALLY NEED FUNDING. THIS IS AN AGRICULTURAL COUNTRY. OUR ECONOMY IS BASICALLY AGRICULTURAL. HE HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING TO IMPROVE AGRICULTURE IN THE COUNTRY. AND THE SECOND INDUSTRY IS TOURISM. HE HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING TO IMPROVE TOURISM IN THE COUNTRY. INSTEAD, WHAT HE HAS DONE IS TO DESTROY TOURISM IN THE COUNTRY. HE BUILDS AN ARCH IN BANJUL AND A STATUE OF AN UNKNOWN SOLDIER. THE DEVELOPMENTAL VALUE OF THAT ARCH TO THE NATION, I CANNOT SEE IT.
/// END ACT ///
THE MILITARY RULER PROMISED TO RESTORE CIVILIAN RULE IN FOUR YEARS, BUT PRESSURE FROM WESTERN GOVERNMENTS FORCED THE LEADER TO CUT THE TRANSITION PERIOD TO TWO YEARS.
GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES HOPE THAT THURSDAY'S VOTE, FOLLOWED BY PARLIAMENTARY ELECTIONS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, WILL PERSUADE WESTERN DONORS TO RESUME THE 100 MILLION DOLLARS OF AID PER YEAR THAT WAS CUT OFF AFTER THE COUP. (SIGNED)
NEB/WPM/MMK
25-Sep-96 3:02 PM EDT (1902 UTC) NNNN
Source: Voice of America ..
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:15:53 -0600 From: ndarboe@olemiss.edu To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: gopher://gopher.voa.gov:70/00/newswire/thu/GAMBIA_ELECTION_SCENESETTER Message-ID: <v01510101ae6fed1fcc2f@[130.74.64.43]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
The second article.
Numukunda
DATE=9/25/96 TYPE=CORRESPONDENT REPORT NUMBER=2-203674 TITLE=GAMBIA ELECTION SCENESETTER (L-ONLY) BYLINE=PURNELL MURDOCK DATELINE=BANJUL CONTENT=
VOICED AT:
INTRO: GAMBIANS GO TO THE POLLS TODAY (THURSDAY) TO ELECT A CIVILIAN GOVERNMENT AFTER TWO YEARS OF MILITARY RULE. FROM THE GAMBIAN CAPITAL, BANJUL, V-O-A CORRESPONDENT PURNELL MURDOCK REPORTS THE LEAD UP TO ELECTIONS HAS BEEN MARKED BY CONTROVERSY.
TEXT: WHAT HAS CONCERNED WESTERN GOVERNMENTS AND INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS IS GAMBIA'S NEWLY RATIFIED CONSTITUTION. AS GAMBIANS VOTED TO ADOPT THE NEW LAWS, CRITICS WARNED IT CARRIED PROVISIONS THAT THREATEN HUMAN RIGHTS.
AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE CONSTITUTION SET AGE LIMITS ON THE PRESIDENCY THAT SOME SAY WERE WRITTEN TO EXCLUDE POLITICAL LEADERS, SUCH AS OUSTED PRESIDENT SIR DAWDA JAWARA, AND ALLOW MILITARY RULER COLONEL YAHYA JAMMEH TO QUALIFY FOR THE HIGH OFFICE. IT ALSO ADDED PROVISIONS ALLOWING A CANDIDATE TO BE ELECTED UNOPPOSED.
SHORTLY AFTER THE CONSTITUTION WAS ADOPTED, THE MILITARY RULER BANNED THE COUNTRY'S MAIN POLITICAL LEADERS FROM CONTESTING IN THE ELECTION, CLEARING THE WAY FOR HIM TO RUN WITHOUT SERIOUS COMPETITION.
THE COMMONWEALTH OF FORMER BRITISH COLONIES CONDEMNED THE RULES GOVERNING THE ELECTION AS BEING FLAWED AND ALLOWING MILITARY LEADERS TO STRENGTHEN THEIR HOLD ON POWER.
OUSAINOU DARB0, ONE OF THREE CHALLENGERS IN THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE, AND THE CANDIDATE SEEN AS HAVING THE BEST CHANCE TO BEAT COLONEL JAMMEH, AGREES.
/// DARBO ACT ///
WHEN THE CONSTITUTIONAL REVIEW COMMISSION INTERVIEWED GAMBIANS THERE WERE SUGGESTIONS -- AND IN FACT EVEN SUGGESTIONS FROM THE PROFESSIONAL BODIES LIKE THE BAR ASSOCIATION -- THAT THE TERM OF THE PRESIDENCY SHOULD BE LIMITED TO A TWO-TERM OF FIVE YEARS EACH. BUT THEY REMOVED THAT. AND IRONICALLY, IN THE PREAMBLE TO THE CONSTITUTION, THEY MADE REFERENCE TO THE SELF-PERPETUATING RULE OF (SIR DAWDA) JAWARA. BUT THEY WOULD NOT ACCEPT LIMITING THE TIME OF THE PRESIDENCY. AND ALL THAT WAS DONE DESIGNEDLY BECAUSE THEY HAD PLANNED TO BAN ALL OTHER POLITICIANS WHO HAVE ANY CHANCE OF WINNING ELECTIONS. AND THEY WOULD JUST COME IN EASILY AND THEN PERPETUATE THEMSELVES IN POWER FOR AS LONG AS THEY WANT.
/// END ACT ///
MR. DARBO SAYS HE HAS NOT RULED OUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT ELEMENTS WITHIN THE MILITARY MIGHT INTERVENE AND RE-TAKE POWER IF THEY DO NOT LIKE THE OUTCOME OF THE POLLING. BUT HE SAYS IF THEY DO, THEY WILL HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE CITIZENS OF GAMBIA.
/// DARBO ACT ///
WHEN THE PEOPLE GO TO THE POLLS, AND EXPRESS THEIR WISH AGAINST THEM, THEN IT WILL BE THEM AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF THE GAMBIA.
/// END ACT ///
SOME OBSERVERS SAY THERE ARE DISTURBING SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE ELECTION IN GAMBIA AND OTHER RECENT POLLS IN WEST AND CENTRAL AFRICA WHERE MILITARY DICTATORS HAVE SOUGHT TO MAINTAIN POWER AND SATISFY THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY'S DEMANDS FOR DEMOCRATIC REFORMS.
SOME 80 OBSERVERS ARE ON HAND TO MONITOR THE VOTE. DIPLOMATS SAY THEY WILL CONTINUE TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE COUNTRY'S LEADERS IF GAMBIA'S ELECTION ARE NOT FOUND TO HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED FAIRLY. PRELIMINARY RESULTS ARE EXPECTED BY FRIDAY. (SIGNED)
NEB/WPM/LWM
25-Sep-96 10:25 PM EDT (0225 UTC) NNNN
Source: Voice of America ..
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:58:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: msjaiteh@mtu.edu Subject: Re: gopher://gopher.voa.gov:70/00/newswire/thu/GAMBIA_ELECTION_SCENESETTER Message-ID: <199609261658.MAA24543@hemlock.ffr.mtu.edu> Content-Type: text
I am really amazed to hear people from within and outside the Gambia waiting to see if the sept 26 elections would be conducted freely. When do we call foul? Are we waiting for the moments when armed uniformed men are found in polling boots directing voters to cast their votes in Jammeh's box? Perhaps a better time to call foul play!
> > Numukunda > > > > DATE=9/25/96 > TYPE=CORRESPONDENT REPORT > NUMBER=2-203674 > TITLE=GAMBIA ELECTION SCENESETTER (L-ONLY) > BYLINE=PURNELL MURDOCK > DATELINE=BANJUL > CONTENT= > > VOICED AT: > > INTRO: GAMBIANS GO TO THE POLLS TODAY (THURSDAY) TO ELECT A > CIVILIAN GOVERNMENT AFTER TWO YEARS OF MILITARY RULE. FROM THE > GAMBIAN CAPITAL, BANJUL, V-O-A CORRESPONDENT PURNELL MURDOCK > REPORTS THE LEAD UP TO ELECTIONS HAS BEEN MARKED BY CONTROVERSY. > > TEXT: WHAT HAS CONCERNED WESTERN GOVERNMENTS AND INTERNATIONAL > HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS IS GAMBIA'S NEWLY RATIFIED > CONSTITUTION. AS GAMBIANS VOTED TO ADOPT THE NEW LAWS, CRITICS > WARNED IT CARRIED PROVISIONS THAT THREATEN HUMAN RIGHTS. > > AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE CONSTITUTION SET AGE LIMITS ON THE > PRESIDENCY THAT SOME SAY WERE WRITTEN TO EXCLUDE POLITICAL > LEADERS, SUCH AS OUSTED PRESIDENT SIR DAWDA JAWARA, AND ALLOW > MILITARY RULER COLONEL YAHYA JAMMEH TO QUALIFY FOR THE HIGH > OFFICE. IT ALSO ADDED PROVISIONS ALLOWING A CANDIDATE TO BE > ELECTED UNOPPOSED. > > SHORTLY AFTER THE CONSTITUTION WAS ADOPTED, THE MILITARY RULER > BANNED THE COUNTRY'S MAIN POLITICAL LEADERS FROM CONTESTING IN > THE ELECTION, CLEARING THE WAY FOR HIM TO RUN WITHOUT SERIOUS > COMPETITION. > > THE COMMONWEALTH OF FORMER BRITISH COLONIES CONDEMNED THE RULES > GOVERNING THE ELECTION AS BEING FLAWED AND ALLOWING MILITARY > LEADERS TO STRENGTHEN THEIR HOLD ON POWER. > > OUSAINOU DARB0, ONE OF THREE CHALLENGERS IN THE PRESIDENTIAL > RACE, AND THE CANDIDATE SEEN AS HAVING THE BEST CHANCE TO BEAT > COLONEL JAMMEH, AGREES. > > /// DARBO ACT /// > > WHEN THE CONSTITUTIONAL REVIEW COMMISSION INTERVIEWED > GAMBIANS THERE WERE SUGGESTIONS -- AND IN FACT EVEN > SUGGESTIONS FROM THE PROFESSIONAL BODIES LIKE THE BAR > ASSOCIATION -- THAT THE TERM OF THE PRESIDENCY SHOULD BE > LIMITED TO A TWO-TERM OF FIVE YEARS EACH. BUT THEY > REMOVED THAT. AND IRONICALLY, IN THE PREAMBLE TO THE > CONSTITUTION, THEY MADE REFERENCE TO THE > SELF-PERPETUATING RULE OF (SIR DAWDA) JAWARA. BUT THEY > WOULD NOT ACCEPT LIMITING THE TIME OF THE PRESIDENCY. > AND ALL THAT WAS DONE DESIGNEDLY BECAUSE THEY HAD > PLANNED TO BAN ALL OTHER POLITICIANS WHO HAVE ANY CHANCE > OF WINNING ELECTIONS. AND THEY WOULD JUST COME IN > EASILY AND THEN PERPETUATE THEMSELVES IN POWER FOR AS > LONG AS THEY WANT. > > /// END ACT /// > > MR. DARBO SAYS HE HAS NOT RULED OUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT ELEMENTS > WITHIN THE MILITARY MIGHT INTERVENE AND RE-TAKE POWER IF THEY DO > NOT LIKE THE OUTCOME OF THE POLLING. BUT HE SAYS IF THEY DO, > THEY WILL HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE CITIZENS OF GAMBIA. > > /// DARBO ACT /// > > WHEN THE PEOPLE GO TO THE POLLS, AND EXPRESS THEIR WISH > AGAINST THEM, THEN IT WILL BE THEM AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF > THE GAMBIA. > > /// END ACT /// > > SOME OBSERVERS SAY THERE ARE DISTURBING SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE > ELECTION IN GAMBIA AND OTHER RECENT POLLS IN WEST AND CENTRAL > AFRICA WHERE MILITARY DICTATORS HAVE SOUGHT TO MAINTAIN POWER AND > SATISFY THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY'S DEMANDS FOR DEMOCRATIC > REFORMS. > > SOME 80 OBSERVERS ARE ON HAND TO MONITOR THE VOTE. DIPLOMATS SAY > THEY WILL CONTINUE TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE COUNTRY'S LEADERS IF > GAMBIA'S ELECTION ARE NOT FOUND TO HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED FAIRLY. > PRELIMINARY RESULTS ARE EXPECTED BY FRIDAY. (SIGNED) > > NEB/WPM/LWM > > 25-Sep-96 10:25 PM EDT (0225 UTC) > NNNN > > Source: Voice of America > . > >
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:34:15 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: From PANA Message-ID: <19960926192928.AAA7566@LOCALNAME>
26 Sep 96 - Gambia-Polling
Brisk Polling Continues In Gambia
>From Peter Masebu; PANA Correspondent
BANJUL, Gambia (PANA) - Brisk polling continued Thursday afternoon in Gambia's Presidential election, whose first results are expected to be available by late night Thursday.
Among the voters was the incumbent President, Col Yahya Jammeh, who cast his ballot at a polling station close to state house. He later said he was confident to win.
Workers at the Provisional Independent Electoral Commission reported that voting was going on normally in spite of some hitches involving misplaced ballot boxes, names missing on same voters' lists or symbols of some candidates being removed from a polling station.
Poll watchers said, so far, everything appeared to be normal especially in Banjul.
"We have not yet received reports from upcountry," said Barbara Reinhardus, press officer of the Canadian electoral commission, seconded to monitor the polls by the Commonwealth.
She said voter turn-out was expected to be within the range of 80 percent, as was the case during the constitutional referendum a few months ago, when 87 percent of the eligible voters cast ballots.
There were long lines of voters in Banjul by midday, despite the scorching heat. In some polling stations, men and women stood in different queues.
"This is in keeping with the muslim culture in this country,", a taxi driver who identified himself only as Lamine told PANA.
Thursday and Friday have been declared public holidays in the Gambia, apparently for the polling and vote-counting billed to end the two-year military interruption in Gambian politics since it gained independence from Britain in 1965.
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 01:00:22 +-300 From: BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <kolls567@qatar.net.qa> To: "'GAMBIA-L@U.WASHINGTON.EDU'" <GAMBIA-L@U.WASHINGTON.EDU> Subject: INTRODUCTION AS A NEW MEMBER Message-ID: <01BA8C75.F89E5BE0@kolls567> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
DEAR MEMBERS OF THE Gambia-L, My full name is:BASSIROU DODOU DRAMMEH, BUT I AM MOSTLY KNOWN AS = Bass.SINCE MY GRADUATION FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF QATAR TEN YEARS AGO, I = HAVE BEEN WORKING AS English-Arabic, Arabic-English TRANSLATOR FOR THE = DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC PROSECUTIONS IN THIS COUNTRY.
MY VERY GOOD FRIEND,Modou Camara OF DENMARK,HAD ENTHUSED ME ABOUT THE = Gambia-L WELL BEFORE INTERNET WAS INTRODUCED IN THIS COUNTRY; SO ITS NOT = AT ALL AN ACCIDENT THAT HE WAS THE ONE WHO SUBMITTED MY NAME FOR = MEMBERSHIP TO YOUR THIS VERY INTERESTING CLUB - INTERESTING BECAUSE, IN = THE SPACE OF JUST 24-HOURS AFTER BEING A MEMBER, I HAVE GOT MORE = INFORMATION ABOUT THE GAMBIA THAN IN THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOURS OF THE = TEN MONTHS THAT PRECEDED MY MEMBERSHIP.THAT IS PRECISELY WHY I CANNOT = THANK MR.CAMARA MANY TIMES ENOUGH !!
THE REST OF OF MY THANKS MUST, OF COURSE, GO TO ALL YOU NICE GAMBIAN = GUYS WHO HAVE ACCEPTED ME ONBOARD THE THE List.I AM VERY EXCITED FOR = BEING A MEMBER, AND I AM LOOKING VERY MUCH FORWARD TO PARTICIPATING = FULLY AND ACTIVELY IN THIS VERY NOBLE ENTERPRISE OF EXCHANGING IDEAS AND = VIEWS ON THE ISSUES THAT CONCERN US AS GAMBIANS AND AFRICANS.SO ONCE = AGAIN THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR WELCOMING ME TO THE GAMBIAN Bantabaa OR = Penchabi OR WHATEVER IT IS .....
= AND BYE FOR NOW.......
=20 = BASSSSS =20
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:18:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Alieu Jawara <umjawara@cc.UManitoba.CA> To: Gambia-l <Gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: The issue of Gambians not returning home Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960926163717.22236A-100000@castor.cc.umanitoba.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi Folks, I just thougth I should drop a word on the comments made by Buba, Isatou and Musa. I think Buba is very right in that we should go home after our studies. The whole U.S. is flooded with Gambians who have finished thier studies, have no intention of going back to school and just want to stay in the States to do whatever job they can find to survive. In that case I want to say, your level of education doesn't matter. Go back with whatever you have and try to contribute to the development of your country! I have taught in Gambia High School for a year together with a few other Gambian teachers, the majority of the teachers were foreigners. It was very easy to tell that these foreign teachers care very little about the education of our children, all they care about is money and this is the reason for the introduction of private tutoring (which could be afforded by very few). You will be surprised to know how many able students do poorly in their classes just because they couldn't afford the price for extra classes with thier teachers. Don't you think guys, a BSc. or a B.A degree is sufficient to fill those gaps in our schools. I hope our intelectuals will also consider going home especially with the introduction of a university in the near future. I have to quit for now, bye, Alieu.
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 00:44:36 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: INTRODUCTION AS A NEW MEMBER Message-ID: <19960926234054.AAA23204@LOCALNAME>
Welcome to Bass and all other new members who have been added to the Gambia-l recently.
Bass, the date on your computer is set one year back (1995) but I guess you did it deliberately!
Once again welcome on board.
My best regards to everyonel. Momodou Camara
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:48:46 -0400 (EDT) From: ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: The issue of Gambians not returning home Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.960926184419.4377B-100000@ahnnyong.cc.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Alieu Jawara wrote:
> Hi Folks, > teachers were foreigners. It was very easy to tell that these foreign > teachers care very little about the education of our children, all they > care about is money and this is the reason for the introduction of private > tutoring (which could be afforded by very few). You will be surprised to Hi folks, How about the teachers from the Peace Corps ? Surely they must care because they definitely are not doing it for the money. And where is the proof that there is a correlation between citizenship and productivity. I hope the Republicans do not hear you because then no Gambian would ever teach in the US ! Bye for now, -Abdou.
******************************************************************************* A. TOURAY. at137@columbia.edu abdou@cs.columbia.edu abdou@touchscreen.com (212) 749-7971 MY URL's ON THE WWW= http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~at137 http://www.psl.cs.columbia.edu/~abdou
A FINITE IN A LAND OF INFINITY.. SEEKING BUT THE REACHABLE. I WANDER AND I WONDER. ALL RESPITE IS FINAL. *******************************************************************************
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:26:28 -0500 (EST) From: Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: New Member Message-ID: <01I9Y295PI1Y003YM3@PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Benoit Dumolin added; brief intro expected from him.
Amadou Scattred-Janneh
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:31:24 -0500 (EST) From: Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: GAMBIA_ELECTIONS-2. Message-ID: <01I9Y2FP3GVM003QSY@PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
DATE=9/26/96 TYPE=CORRESPONDENT REPORT NUMBER=2-203714 TITLE=GAMBIA ELECTIONS (L) BYLINE=PURNELL MURDOCK DATELINE=BANJUL CONTENT= VOICED AT:
INTRO: VOTING GOT OFF TO A RELATIVELY PEACEFUL START IN GAMBIA (THURSDAY), WHERE CITIZENS ARE CHOOSING A CIVILIAN GOVERNMENT, FOLLOWING TWO-YEARS OF MILITARY RULE. BUT AMBIGUITIES IN THE RULES GOVERNING THE TRANSITION PROCESS AFTER THE ELECTION ARE CREATING THE POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE TROUBLE. CORRESPONDENT PURNELL MURDOCK REPORTS FROM THE GAMBIAN CAPITAL, BANJUL.
TEXT: ELECTION OFFICIALS SAY MANY VOTERS ARRIVED AT POLLING STATIONS HOURS BEFORE THE OFFICIAL OPENING TIME TO CAST THEIR BALLOTS.
MILITARY RULER COLONEL YAHYA JAMMEH ('JAH-MAY) AND HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYER OUSAINOU DARBOE ARE CONSIDERED THE TOP TWO CANDIDATES IN THE FOUR-MAN RACE. COLONEL JAMMEH, WHO RECENTLY RESIGNED FROM THE MILITARY TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT AS A CIVILIAN, IS SEEKING TO RETAIN HIS HOLD ON POWER.
THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PROVISIONAL INDEPENDENT ELECTORAL COMMISSION, GABRIEL ROBERTS, SAID SOME POLLING STATIONS REPORTED WHAT HE CALLED -- MINOR PROBLEMS.
/// ROBERTS ACT ///
OH, THERE HAVE BEEN PROBLEMS, YES. QUITE A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS. BUT I THINK (IT IS) GOING ALONG SMOOTHLY.
/// END ACT ///
ELECTION RESULTS ARE EXPECTED AS SOON AS FRIDAY. BUT THE APPARENT SMOOTHNESS OF THE VOTING BELIES THE EXPECTED CONFUSION OF THE TRANSITION PROCESS AFTER THE VOTES ARE COUNTED. OBSERVERS SAY THE NEW CONSTITUTION IS AMBIGUOUS AS TO HOW AND WHEN THE NEWLY-ELECTED PRESIDENT IS TO BE SWORN INTO OFFICE.
// OPT // ELECTORAL COMMISSION CHAIRMAN GABRIEL ROBERTS AGREES THE PROCESS IS COMPLICATED.
/// SECOND ROBERTS ACT ///
THIS IS VERY FLUID AT THE MOMENT. BECAUSE THE PROVISIONAL ELECTORAL COMMISSION IS MANDATED TO TAKE EXCERPTS FROM EXISTING CONSTITUTIONS. THAT IS TO SAY, THE 1970 CONSTITUTION, THE CONSTITUTION THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN RECEIVED BY THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY. WE HAVE TAKEN EXCERPTS FROM THOSE. BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN PARTS OF IT WHICH WE CANNOT REALLY HANDLE AND WE HAVE TO REFER THAT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S CHAMBERS.
/// END ACT /// //END OPT//
ACCORDING TO THE NEW CONSTITUTION, WHICH BECOMES LAW AFTER THE NEW PRESIDENT TAKES OFFICE, THE MILITARY GOVERNMENT REMAINS THE SUPREME GOVERNING BODY UNTIL THE SWEARING-IN CEREMONY. BUT THERE ARE NO LAWS SPECIFYING WHEN THE CEREMONY IS TO TAKE PLACE. IN ADDITION, THE COUNTRY HAS NO LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY UNTIL ELECTIONS IN DECEMBER. THUS, THE MILITARY GOVERNMENT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE WHEN THE NEWLY-ELECTED PRESIDENT IS TO ASSUME POWER AND ACTIVATE THE CONSTITUTION.
PRIVATELY, DIPLOMATS AND OTHER OBSERVERS SAY COLONEL JAMMEH'S SUPPORTERS, BOTH IN THE MILITARY GOVERNMENT AND IN HIS "ALLIANCE FOR PATRIOTIC REORIENTATION AND CONSTRUCTION" PARTY, HAVE TESTED THE LIMITS TO WHICH THEY CAN SEIZE THE STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE AND INSURE AN ELECTION VICTORY FOR THE MILITARY LEADER.
POLITICAL OBSERVERS SAY THE AMBIGUITIES IN THE TRANSITION PROCESS ARE A LOOPHOLE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE MILITARY GOVERNMENT TO REMAIN IN POWER IF THEY DO NOT LIKE THE OUTCOME OF THE VOTE. THEY SAY FEW GAMBIANS ARE AWARE OF THE AMBIGUITIES OR UNDERSTAND THEIR IMPLICATIONS, CREATING THE POTENTIAL FOR TROUBLE. (SIGNED)
NEB/PWM/PCF/RAE
26-Sep-96 12:49 PM EDT (1649 UTC) NNNN
Source: Voice of America ..
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:49:41 -0400 From: LIEDRAMMEH@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Appreciation for introduction to GAMBIA-L Message-ID: <960926194939_294277924@emout17.mail.aol.com>
My name is Abdoulie Drammeh. I live in Gaithersburg, Maryland. First of all I think an apology from me to Mbye Sarr is in order. It has been about three days since I was initially introduced to GAMBIA-L. Unfortunately due to uncontrollable circumstances, I am just now able to come around to introducing myself. I am sure we can all appreciate what we endure daily, in both our personal and professional lives.
My sincere gratitude goes to my friends Mbye Sarr and Ousainou Mbenga, who were instrumental in my coming aboard this very important medium, which in every positive way will bring together Gambians from across the globe to share ideas and educate one another. My thanks also to all members of GAMBIA-L.
On this very historic day (election day, 1996) in the history of our country, we pray for Allah's guidance and the blessings of our fore-fathers.
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:19:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: New Member Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960926170813.2196A-100000@saul7.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
With the addition of our newest member from Amadou, Gambia-l has now its 100th member. So, let us take a time our from the election thoughts and congratulate ourselves for the propagation of this forum to both Gambians/Friends of The Gambia world wide. This is a milestone. I have never envisioned this interest, enthusiam and the rate of this phenomenal growth from the onset. Many thanks to all of you especially to the regular contributors, the subscription managers and Abdou for handling the technical aspects and problems of the list. " Let us keep on keeping on " Thanks Tony
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Anthony W Loum tloum@u.washington.edu Supervisor, Business Administration Library 206-543-4360 voice 100 Balmer Hall 206-685-9392 fax University of Washington Box 353200 Seattle, Wa.98195-3200 =========================================================================
On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Amadou Scattred Janneh wrote:
> Benoit Dumolin added; brief intro expected from him. > > Amadou Scattred-Janneh >
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:40:42 -0600 From: ndarboe@olemiss.edu To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Gambia Elections Preliminary Results Message-ID: <v01510100ae70ddf8e2af@[130.74.64.43]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
These were announce over the air in Gambia:
APRC UDP PDOIS NRP
George Town 556 423 15 27
Banjul North 2491 1739 37 74
Kiang East 948 2131 37 67
Numukunda
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:50:58 -0600 From: ndarboe@olemiss.edu (Numukunda Darboe) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: New Member Message-ID: <v01510101ae70e19fbe27@[130.74.64.43]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Bravo Gambia-l! This is quite an achievement, and I hope the growth will continue and in the most positive manner. I would like to take this opportunity to recommend a niece and a dear friend to be added to the growing list.
Mariama Darboe <Mdarbo01@shepherd.wvnet.edu> Yama attends Shepherds College in West Virginia
Kemo Ceesay <ceesayk@acs.bu.edu> attends Boston University
>With the addition of our newest member from Amadou, Gambia-l has now its >100th member. So, let us take a time our from the election thoughts and >congratulate ourselves for the propagation of this forum to both >Gambians/Friends of The Gambia world wide. This is a milestone. I have >never envisioned this interest, enthusiam and the rate of this >phenomenal growth from the onset. Many thanks to all of you especially to >the regular contributors, the subscription managers and Abdou for handling >the technical aspects and problems of the list. > " Let us keep on keeping on " > Thanks > Tony > > >- >======================================================================== > > Anthony W Loum tloum@u.washington.edu > Supervisor, Business Administration Library 206-543-4360 voice > 100 Balmer Hall 206-685-9392 fax > University of Washington > Box 353200 > Seattle, Wa.98195-3200 > > ========================================================================= > > > > >On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Amadou Scattred Janneh wrote: > >> Benoit Dumolin added; brief intro expected from him. >> >> Amadou Scattred-Janneh >>
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:56:34 -0600 From: ndarboe@olemiss.edu (Numukunda Darboe) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Corrections(Gambia Elections Preliminary Results) Message-ID: <v01510102ae70e3b93cb3@[130.74.64.43]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I'm sorry the NRP column was not clear, and one under PDOIS was wrong
* correction
>These were announce over the air in Gambia: > > APRC UDP PDOIS >*NRP > > >George Town 556 423 15 >27 >>
>Banjul North 2491 1739 *97 >74
> >Kiang East 948 2131 37 >67
> > >Numukunda
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:13:28 -0700 From: sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: The issue of Gambians not returning home Message-ID: <199609270113.SAA26204@thesky.incog.com>
Hi Alieu,
So why aren't you home now?
Sarian
> From umjawara@cc.UManitoba.CA Thu Sep 26 15:31:52 1996 > Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:18:34 -0500 (CDT) > From: Alieu Jawara <umjawara@cc.UManitoba.CA> > To: "GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> > Subject: The issue of Gambians not returning home > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-To: Gambia-l <Gambia-l@u.washington.edu> > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.0 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > Hi Folks, > I just thougth I should drop a word on the comments made by Buba, > Isatou and Musa. I think Buba is very right in that we should go home > after our studies. The whole U.S. is flooded with Gambians who have > finished thier studies, have no intention of going back to school and > just want to stay in the States to do whatever job they can find to > survive. In that case I want to say, your level of education doesn't > matter. Go back with whatever you have and try to contribute to the > development of your country! I have taught in Gambia High School for a > year together with a few other Gambian teachers, the majority of the > teachers were foreigners. It was very easy to tell that these foreign > teachers care very little about the education of our children, all they > care about is money and this is the reason for the introduction of private > tutoring (which could be afforded by very few). You will be surprised to > know how many able students do poorly in their classes just because they > couldn't afford the price for extra classes with thier teachers. Don't you > think guys, a BSc. or a B.A degree is sufficient to fill those gaps in our > schools. I hope our intelectuals will also consider going home especially > with the introduction of a university in the near future. > I have to quit for now, bye, > > Alieu. >
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 21:40:22 -0500 (CDT) From: JAWARAMB@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu To: GAMBIA-L@U.WASHINGTON.EDU Subject: RESPONSE TO ALIEU Message-ID: <01I9Y5OTNM5U8XPG0O@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Alieu this is your big brother here Musa. I cannot agree with you more on the underlying facts of your piece.I can understand where you are comming from, however, I guess you meant to say do as I say not as I do. The idea you put together is wonderful in its generality but defficient in its fractionating columns.In short, if you live in glass house do not throw stones. With regard to my response to Buba, I failed to understand what connection that has with your piece.Buba was making a comparison between Sir Dawda and Yahya Jammeh on the level of their education and accomplishments as leaders. Please refer to that posting. I have to sign off for now ......NDOKE I'm busy. Regards Balake.
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:43:15 -0600 From: ndarboe@olemiss.edu (Numukunda Darboe) To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Elections Update Message-ID: <v01510103ae7118319095@[130.74.64.43]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
These might not be the latest, but still might be useful.
These were announce over the air in Gambia:
APRC UDP PDOIS *NRP
George Town 556 423 15 27
Banjul North 2491 1739 *97 74
Kiang East 948 2131 37 67
Kiang Central 1344 1655 52 222
Niamina West 1306 971 71 565
Niamina Dankunku 1155 737 39 472
Numukunda
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:55:52 -0400 From: ABALM@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Elections Update Message-ID: <960927015549_294589926@emout08.mail.aol.com>
from gambia air
APRC UDP
Upper noimi 4952 2552
Foni Kansalla 4063 162
Update from gambia air at 6am gambian time.
abba
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:33:15 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Election results Message-ID: <19960927112834.AAA7950@LOCALNAME>
Hi Gambia-l! Here are more updates of the election results. Note that there are two more constituencies namely; Tumana and Basse. I hope that I can get the results under the right parties. THESE ARE NOT THE FINAL RESULTS! THERE ARE STILL ABOUT 15 CONSTITUENCIES MORE TO COME.
APRC UDP PDOIS NRC
Banjul North 2491 1739 74 97 Banjul Central 3604 1665 154 91 Banjul South 3045 1613 133 73
Bakau 4843 6279 279 152
Kombo East 6257 2927 178 512
Foni Kansala 4063 162 56 78 Foni Bondali 1719 230 20 131 Foni Jarrol 2051 467 24 162
L- Niumi 4958 2572 135 375 L- Badibou 1653 3841 62 254
Jarra East 1894 2546 70 281 Jarra Central 1511 1232 54 297 Jarra west 2510 4264 98 286 Kiang East 948 2131 37 67 Kiang central 1344 1655 52 222 Kiang west 823 4825 119 336
L-Saloum 3877 923 142 829 U-Saloum 3244 697 186 1365 Niani 3336 2447 157 608 Nianija 1722 601 73 317 Sami 3358 2856 140 354 Jangjanbureh 556 423 15 27 Niamina W. 1306 971 71 565 Niamina E. 4326 2391 91 608 --"- Dankunku 1155 737 39 472
Basse 5554 3877 240 723 Tumana 4345 4285 403 646
-------- TOTAL 76493 58356 3102 9928 ---------
Momodou Camara ******************************************************* URL http://home3.inet.tele.dk/mcamara
**"Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible and suddenly you are doing the impossible"***
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:18:22 -0400 (EDT) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: The issue of Gambians not returning home Message-ID: <9609271418.AA08362@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On Thursday, Sept. 26, 1996, Alieu Jawara wrote:
> Hi Folks, > I just thougth I should drop a word on the comments made by Buba, > Isatou and Musa. I think Buba is very right in that we should go home > after our studies. The whole U.S. is flooded with Gambians who have > finished thier studies, have no intention of going back to school and > just want to stay in the States to do whatever job they can find to > survive. In that case I want to say, your level of education doesn't > matter. Go back with whatever you have and try to contribute to the > development of your country! I have taught in Gambia High School for a > year together with a few other Gambian teachers, the majority of the > teachers were foreigners. It was very easy to tell that these foreign > teachers care very little about the education of our children, all they > care about is money and this is the reason for the introduction of private > tutoring (which could be afforded by very few). You will be surprised to > know how many able students do poorly in their classes just because they > couldn't afford the price for extra classes with thier teachers. Don't you > think guys, a BSc. or a B.A degree is sufficient to fill those gaps in our > schools. I hope our intelectuals will also consider going home especially > with the introduction of a university in the near future.
Alieu, your comments are both unfounded and ignorant. You must not criticize any foreigners let alone foreign teachers. I think Gambia is one of the few countries in West Africa where foreigners, from all over the globe, are always welcome. I know of no inherent reason why foreign teachers have a negative effect on the satus of education in any country.
Look around you and visit any college or university in the U.S and abroad. You will find that the facaulty is made up of different nationalities. During the economic collapse of Ghana in the early 80's, for example, many Ghanians teachers came to find jobs as teachers in the Gambia. The result was the creation of a more dynamic and elaborate culture in the majority of the High schoos. On the one hand, the schools had peace corpse most of whom were volunteers. On the other hand,they had very educated Ghanian(and other African and European) teachers whose pay was just average.
Ludicrous as all this sounds, most of these foreign teachers were more self-sufficient in providing services to the students better than even some of the native Gambian teachers. They show more patience with the students simply because of the diverse cultural issue. They want to understand us just as we want to understand them. Atleast, that was my experience at Gambia High School.
It would,of course, be a noble accomplishment if the educated Gambians could go home to protect and save our schools, among other things.But to condemn the Gambian for not doing so is to impose African standards on a situation in which they are irrelevant. What sounds good in theory is not always easy to promote in practice. And I believe that is why you aquiring a higher education (in a foreign country).....so that you can be more self-sufficient in the outside world. You have to understand that the quest for knowledge can never be secondary, and that education should not be an end to itself.
Regards, Moe S. Jallow
Product Support Engineer Hayes MicroComputer Norcross, GA 30092
______________________________________________________________________________ mjallow@sct.edu ______________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:32:04 EDT From: "BOJANG,BUBA" <BBOJANG@MUSIC.TRANSY.EDU> To: <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Message-ID: <27SEP96.12457437.0076.MUSIC@MUSIC.TRANSY.EDU>
In the name of God, the beneficient, the merciful. Guys, as the election results are coming, I think it is clear to all that Colonel Yaya Jammeh is already the choice of the Gambians. I think at this point what we have to do is to write ajoint congratu latory letter to the colonel congratulating him on his victory. So Tony or Abdou or who ever leads this list can go ahead and do so. I know most of will be against Yaya's victory but remember we pray to Go d to give victory to a better one and here he is YAYA. Whether we like it or not he is the one given to us. Let us now put all political differences aside and help Yaya in any way can whether we are there or here in the development of our mother land. I'm with our positive contribution, the next thirty years can be used to remedy the former. I wish Yaya all the best in his effort in uplifting the country and I pray to God for a guidance over his efforts. I wish Gambians an enjoyable and success in the second republic. (AMEEN) REMEMBER"a leaf that was blown aloof by the wind will definitely come b ck to the mother earth" Bada
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:53:47 -0500 (EST) From: Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: GAMBIA_ELECTION. Message-ID: <01I9Z0QOFWEQ0040W0@PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
DATE=9/27/96 TYPE=CORRESPONDENT REPORT NUMBER=2-203777 TITLE=GAMBIA ELECTION (L) BYLINE=PURNELL MURDOCK DATELINE=BANJUL CONTENT= VOICED AT:
// ENGLISH MUST CUT TAPE TO CONFORM //
INTRO: PRELIMINARY RESULTS INDICATE MILITARY RULER COLONEL YAHYA JAMMEH IS MAINTAINING A LEAD IN GAMBIA'S PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION HELD THURSDAY. BUT AS V-O-A CORRESPONDENT PURNELL MURDOCK REPORTS FROM THE GAMBIAN CAPITAL, BANJUL, ELECTION OFFICIALS SAY THE POLLING WAS MARKED BY IRREGULARITIES.
TEXT: WITH MORE THAN HALF OF THE VOTES COUNTED, COLONEL JAMMEH LED THE FOUR-MAN RACE WITH MORE THAN 53 PERCENT OF THE BALLOTS. HIS NEAREST OPPONENT, HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYER OUSAINOU DARBO, RECEIVED ALMOST 40 PERCENT.
ELECTION OFFICIALS SAID MOST OF THE REMAINING DISTRICTS WOULD NOT CARRY ENOUGH VOTES TO THREATEN THE MILITARY RULER'S LEAD.
UNDER GAMBIA'S ELECTION LAWS, A CANDIDATE HAS ONLY TO RECEIVE AN SIMPLE MAJORITY TO WIN. THERE IS NO RUN-OFF BETWEEN THE TOP TWO CANDIDATES.
ALTHOUGH COLONEL JAMMEH APPEARED POISED TO WIN THE ELECTION, POLITICAL OBSERVERS SAID HE STANDS TO LOSE HIS BID FOR INTERNATIONAL LEGITIMACY AS A POLITICAL LEADER.
ELECTION OFFICIALS HAVE COMPLAINED OF VOTING IRREGULARITIES AT MANY POLLING STATIONS. THEY SAID AMONG OTHER THINGS, SUPPORTERS OF THE MILITARY RULER USED INTIMIDATION TO CAST THEIR BALLOTS AT WHICHEVER POLLING STATION THEY CHOSE, SAYING COLONEL JAMMEH AUTHORIZED THEM TO DO SO.
PRIVATELY, DIPLOMATS AND OTHER POLITICAL OBSERVERS SAY THE 31-YEAR-OLD FORMER ARMY OFFICER AND THOSE WHO FORM HIS INNER CIRCLE LACK THE MATURITY AND EXPERIENCE TO EARN THE RESPECT THEY WANT FROM THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY. AND THEY SAY THE CONDUCT OF THE TRANSITION TO DEMOCRACY, WITH ITS ILL-CONCEIVED CONSTITUTION AND FLAWED ELECTION, HAVE ALREADY ALIENATED THE MILITARY RULER. (SIGNED)
NEB/WPM/PCF/MMK
27-Sep-96 11:07 AM EDT (1507 UTC) NNNN
Source: Voice of America ..
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:58:08 -0500 (EST) From: Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: I Hate to Say "I Told You So!" Message-ID: <01I9Z0V5EXWI0046N2@PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Gambia-l:
Please read the VOA piece on the elections and tell me if my predictions have so far been on the mark!
Amadou
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 01:53:34 JST +900 From: binta@iuj.ac.jp To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: The issue of Gambians not returning home Message-ID: <199609271651.BAA02235@mlsv.iuj.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Gambia-l,
Alieu may have struck the right chord at the wrong time and with some wrong people. Some of us have been away from home for so long that we have lost touch with the base of things. Whether Gambians or foreigners anywhere must go back to their home countries is never my concern, however, I do know that it is a common feeling among Gambians of all shades that our education system would have been better with more Gambian teachers. Teaching is a noble profession yet not all of us a born to teach. Some can do it better than others. The world over the on the average low salary of teachers is lamented. The Gambia is no exception. But when those teachers devise various means to get students into `extra-classes', the nobility of those teachers comes into question. Perhaps Gambia is not yet saturated with degree holders for when that happens, we cannot avoid the classroom. I know Gambians who obtained BEd. certificates and HTCs but shun teaching. I do fully agree with Alieu that some of our teachers are more concerned about their pockets that with the well-being of our young. Suffice it to say that a country that depends on others for the health, education and the carriage of justice of and for its people is not very progressive. Many have given the example of the US. But you must remember that very few, if any, non-nationals are involved in providing secondary education to American children. That is the monopoly of Americans. Foreign teachers at American universities are there simply because they need to be there. Even the land of immigrants does have `foreigners'! While for personal reasons we need not go home , we must treat issues with more reasoning than passion. The truth is always bitter.
Lamin Drammeh (Japan).
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:50:59 -0700 From: sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Message-ID: <199609271650.JAA26473@thesky.incog.com>
Hi Buba,
Who the hell are you to tell people to write a congratulatory letter to Jammeh? Will you please refrain from telling us how to run our lives and what to say? If you want to write a letter who is stopping you from doing that, must you impose your wishes on people? Do whatever you have to do and leave it at that.
Sarian
> From BBOJANG@MUSIC.TRANSY.EDU Fri Sep 27 08:37:30 1996 > Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:32:04 EDT > From: "BOJANG,BUBA" <BBOJANG@MUSIC.TRANSY.EDU> > To: "GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> > X-To: <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.0 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > In the name of God, the beneficient, the merciful. > Guys, as the election results are coming, I think it is clear to all > that Colonel Yaya Jammeh is already the choice of the Gambians. > I think at this point what we have to do is to write ajoint congratu > latory letter to the colonel congratulating him on his victory. So > Tony or Abdou or who ever leads this list can go ahead and do so. > I know most of will be against Yaya's victory but remember we pray to Go > d to give victory to a better one and here he is YAYA. Whether we like > it or not he is the one given to us. > Let us now put all political differences aside and help Yaya in any > way can whether we are there or here in the development of our mother > land. I'm with our positive contribution, the next thirty years can > be used to remedy the former. > I wish Yaya all the best in his effort in uplifting the country > and I pray to God for a guidance over his efforts. I wish Gambians > an enjoyable and success in the second republic. (AMEEN) > REMEMBER"a leaf that was blown aloof by the wind will definitely come b > ck to the mother earth" > Bada > > >
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:06:23 -0500 (EST) From: Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: 96I27038.html Message-ID: <01I9Z7GHGKFM003JKR@PSTCC6.PSTCC.CC.TN.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Panafrican News Agency News Stories | Environment | Economics | Science and Health | Sports | Africa Press Review Copyright 1996 Panafrican News Agency and Africa News Service. All rights reserved. Material may not be redistributed, posted to any other location, published or used for broadcast without written authorization from the Panafrican News Agency. B.P. 4056, Dakar, Senegal. Tel: (221) 24-13-95 | Fax: (221) 24-13-90 | E-mail: quoiset@sonatel.senet.net 27 Sep 96 - Gambia-Elections Jammeh Leads In Presidential Polls From Peter Masebu ; PANA Staff Correspondent BANJUL, Gambia (PANA) - The incumbent Gambian president, Yahya Jammeh, is leading in the country's presidential elections held on Thursday, according to provisional results released by the Electoral Commission on Friday. The commission said Jammeh polled 126,073 votes from 34 constituencies, compared to his closest rival, Ossainou Darboe, who obtained 89,833 votes. But a panel of poll watchers featured on Gambia radio expressed surprise at Jammeh's performance, especially in Banjul, where he took 61.84 percent of the vote as against Darboe's 33.95 percent. The panelists did not rule out the possibility of Jammeh, who seized power in a military coup July 22, 1994, winning the highly populated Serekunda east and west, which together with Bakau, have 83,839 registered voters. The panelists views were influenced by Jammeh's unexpected performance in Bakau, where he received 41.92 percent of the votes in an area where people usually vote against incumbents. Darboe won 54.35 percent of the votes here. Jammeh's highest score was in Brikama, his stronghold, where he got 66.33 percent of the votes, compared with 27.72 percent for Darboe. Full results are expected later Friday, when the candidate who secures a simple majority of all votes cast will be declared the winner. _________________________________________________________________ AFRICA NEWS Home Page | AFRICA NEWS CENTRAL | The Nando Times
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:18:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Ndey Marie is back Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960927121035.14219B-100000@saul6.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi Everyone,
I am taking this opportunity to welcome Ndey Marie Njie back to Gambia-l after taking a few weeks off to make the transition to her new school. As can be recalled, Ndey Marie was a prolific contributor to the list. Upon completion of her masters at Iowa State, she has now started her doctoral program at Ohio State University. Welcome back Ndey Marie and we will be looking forward to your contributions again. Thanks Tony
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:23:43 -0400 (EDT) From: ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: forwarding Buba's Mail (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.960927152159.12265A-100000@ciao.cc.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
/* The following was forwarded AT*/
Hi Sarian, I am a concern Gambian like any one on the list. What is wrong about writing a congratulatory letter to the winner of the election. Whether you like it or not, whether we write it or not, people will do it. Heads of states and other diplomats will very soon be congratulating the incumbent and the chosen Colonel Jammeh(Jah May). Jammeh gets it whether you like it or not. Please put your anger aside and accept the man. Where is Lawyer Darboe? can somebody answer this question for me. It is clear that we(Gambians) do not want him. Seven consequences out of twenty-seven. What a big dissapointment. Sarian you have no choice but YAYA.
.. Alieu, you get it. There is no other way to put it than how you do it. I myself was a victim of the bad behavior of those foreign teachers at Muslim High School. Do you think Yaya is wrong by controlling the issuing of Gambian passport when we never want to go back when we are done with our programms? REMEMBER" Aleaf that was blown aloof by the wind will definitely come back to the mother earth" BADA Who knows the results of the remaining consequences? please post
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:51:17 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: More election results Message-ID: <19960927204639.AAA22898@LOCALNAME>
Gambia-l, Here are more results from the elections. Amadou, all your predictions are right! Acording to these results there are some new constituencies compared to the referandum in August. Results of two counsituencies are still missing. They are Serrekunda West and Foni Bintang.
Constituency APPRC UDP PDOIS NRC
S.Kunda East 19904 12325 944 774 Kombo Central 10982 7699 329 446 *Kombo North 18330 9765 685 1046 Kombo South 9580 4581 320 556 Foni Brefet 2735 882 59 125 **L-Niumi 9712 2483 274 658 Jokadou 3570 1379 128 253 U-Badibou 5006 6654 185 532 C-Badibou 1365 4353 72 281 *Sabahh Sanjal 5580 1975 129 863
*L-Fuladou West 5594 4951 462 792 *U-Fuladou West 7900 5056 420 1151
Kantora 6742 2096 294 782 Sandou 3334 2507 502 510 Wuli 5915 3190 2289 1051 *Jimara 6609 2783 346 1241
* Constituencies that were not there or had other names during the referandum. I compared the constituencies with the statement of results of the referandum from the PIEC in August. Fuladou East is no more, perhaps due to the many complaints.
** Correction to my first posting earlier today: I wrote L-Niumi but it should be U-Nuimi 4958 2572 135 375
THERE MIGHT BE SOME ERRORS IN THE FIGURES BUT THOSE ON THE LIST WHO HAVE OTHER RESULTS THAN THESE ARE WELCOME TO NOTIFY.
Momodou Camara
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:09:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: More election results Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960927130731.15991A-100000@saul1.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Momodou, great job providing the election results and numbers. We really appreciate your efforts and willingness providing this information. Thanks Tony
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On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Camara, Momodou wrote:
> Gambia-l, > Here are more results from the elections. > Amadou, all your predictions are right! > Acording to these results there are some new constituencies compared > to the referandum in August. Results of two counsituencies are still > missing. They are Serrekunda West and Foni Bintang. > > > Constituency APPRC UDP PDOIS NRC > > S.Kunda East 19904 12325 944 774 > Kombo Central 10982 7699 329 446 > *Kombo North 18330 9765 685 1046 > Kombo South 9580 4581 320 556 > Foni Brefet 2735 882 59 125 > **L-Niumi 9712 2483 274 658 > Jokadou 3570 1379 128 253 > U-Badibou 5006 6654 185 532 > C-Badibou 1365 4353 72 281 > *Sabahh Sanjal 5580 1975 129 863 > > *L-Fuladou West 5594 4951 462 792 > *U-Fuladou West 7900 5056 420 1151 > > Kantora 6742 2096 294 782 > Sandou 3334 2507 502 510 > Wuli 5915 3190 2289 1051 > *Jimara 6609 2783 346 1241 > > > > * Constituencies that were not there or had other names during the > referandum. I compared the constituencies with the statement of > results of the referandum from the PIEC in August. Fuladou East is no > more, perhaps due to the many complaints. > > ** Correction to my first posting earlier today: > I wrote L-Niumi but it should be U-Nuimi 4958 2572 135 375 > > THERE MIGHT BE SOME ERRORS IN THE FIGURES BUT THOSE ON THE LIST WHO > HAVE OTHER RESULTS THAN THESE ARE WELCOME TO NOTIFY. > > Momodou Camara >
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:26:35 -0400 (EDT) From: ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: More election results Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.960927162432.23881A-100000@sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, A. Loum wrote:
> > > Momodou, great job providing the election results and numbers. We really > appreciate your efforts and willingness providing this information. > Thanks > Tony > Hi, I would like to second that. Big thanks are also due to Numukunda. These are the types who make the list what it is. My hearty thanks, -Abdou.
******************************************************************************* A. TOURAY. at137@columbia.edu abdou@cs.columbia.edu abdou@touchscreen.com (212) 749-7971 MY URL's ON THE WWW= http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~at137 http://www.psl.cs.columbia.edu/~abdou
A FINITE IN A LAND OF INFINITY. SEEKING BUT THE REACHABLE. I WANDER AND I WONDER. ALL RESPITE IS FINAL. *******************************************************************************
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:08:08 -0700 From: mafy <mafy@avana.net> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: VICTORY Message-ID: <324C6C68.3F86@avana.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Buba Bojang/Gambia-L
Thank you very much for a thoughtful piece. It is time for us to focus on rebuilding, reconciliation and reorientation. The Gambian people, (except for a couple of districts) have elected Col. Jammeh to continue his reconstruction and rebuilding.
To the list members who swore that they will dance naked etc. etc. etc... if Jammeh wins! Well, you're excused for your premature, preposterous, and totally ludicrous statements about the outcome of the elections. Like I told you before, the Gambian people want DELIVERY, and not a bunch of so called bureaucratic self-serving intellectuals. This is no the time to cry "foul play at the polls" etc. etc... Jammeh clearly swept the votes. The army for the most part stayed at home except for a few unarmed security personnel.
The election clearly shows that all your pessimistic cry of tribalism, and ethnic affiliation was unfounded. For all I know, Gambia is blessed by our size and population "WE ARE FAMILY". (Sister Sledge) Those of us that yearn for a government that is an arbitrator of fairness, this is the time to rejoice. For those of us that yearn for a return to elitism and disdain, WAKE UP FROM YOUR DREAM WORLD. Let reality set in.
MAFY aka MANLAFY (DeVry Institute of Technology)
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:06:40 -0700 From: sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: forwarding Buba's Mail (fwd) Message-ID: <199609272206.PAA26658@thesky.incog.com>
Hi,
You know what the problem with you is, its how you always write and tell people what to do. That is what bothers me and not the outcome of the elections. Why don't you just write whatever you want to say and send it to the man, why do you have to tell us to do the same? Leave it to individuals to send in their congratulatory notes as they see fit but don't take it upon yourself to tell us to write. That is the only problem with you! STOP! STOP! IMPOSING your wishes, we are all adults and capable of making our own decisions, we don't need you to decide for us. So please stop it, enough is enough. To answer your curiousity, I don't dislike/hate Jammeh nor Darboe, I just wouldn't cast my vote for neither. I'm just glad there was peace and no major problems. Truth be known I would rather be stuck with Jammeh than have the old Jawarra regime back.
You can still be a concerned Gambian and not father us. So stop the bull**** and write to Jammeh, you, as well as I, know theres nothing wrong about a congratulatory note but let it be that individual's decision to write,its not your place to tell us. Go command your children and your family not Gambia-l and certainly not me.
Good day to all.
Sarian > From at137@columbia.edu Fri Sep 27 12:31:46 1996 > Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:23:43 -0400 (EDT) > From: ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> > To: "GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> > Subject: forwarding Buba's Mail (fwd) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-Sender: at137@columbia.edu > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.0 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > /* The following was forwarded AT*/ > > Hi Sarian, > I am a concern Gambian like any one on the list. What is wrong about > writing a congratulatory letter to the winner of the election. Whether > you like it or not, whether we write it or not, people will do it. > Heads of states and other diplomats will very soon be congratulating > the incumbent and the chosen Colonel Jammeh(Jah May). > Jammeh gets it whether you like it or not. Please put your anger aside > and accept the man. > Where is Lawyer Darboe? can somebody answer this question for me. It > is clear that we(Gambians) do not want him. Seven consequences out of > twenty-seven. What a big dissapointment. > Sarian you have no choice but YAYA. > > . > Alieu, you get it. There is no other way to put it than how you do it. > I myself was a victim of the bad behavior of those foreign teachers at > Muslim High School. Do you think Yaya is wrong by controlling the > issuing of Gambian passport when we never want to go back when we are > done with our programms? > REMEMBER" Aleaf that was blown aloof by the wind will definitely come > back to the mother earth" > BADA > Who knows the results of the remaining consequences? please post > > > >
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:24:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: forwarding Buba's Mail (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960927152237.29620A-100000@saul7.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Sarian, Buba and Abdou, let's cool it down and not blow this thing out of proportion. Thanks Tony
On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Sarian Loum wrote:
> Hi, > > You know what the problem with you is, its how you always write and tell people what to do. That is what bothers me and not the outcome of the elections. Why don't you just write whatever you want to say and send it to the man, why do you have to tell us to do the same? Leave it to individuals to send in their congratulatory notes as they see fit but don't take it upon yourself to tell us to write. That is the only problem with you! STOP! STOP! IMPOSING your wishes, we are all adults and capable of making our own decisions, we don't need you to decide for us. So please stop it, enough is enough. To answer your curiousity, I don't dislike/hate Jammeh nor Darboe, I just wouldn't cast my vote for neither. I'm just glad there was peace and no major problems. Truth be known I would rather be stuck with Jammeh than have the old Jawarra regime back. > > You can still be a concerned Gambian and not father us. So stop the bull**** and write to Jammeh, you, as well as I, know theres nothing wrong about a congratulatory note but let it be that individual's decision to write,its not your place to tell us. Go command your children and your family not Gambia-l and certainly not me. > > Good day to all. > > Sarian > > > From at137@columbia.edu Fri Sep 27 12:31:46 1996 > > Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:23:43 -0400 (EDT) > > From: ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> > > To: "GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> > > Subject: forwarding Buba's Mail (fwd) > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > X-Sender: at137@columbia.edu > > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.0 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > > > /* The following was forwarded AT*/ > > > > Hi Sarian, > > I am a concern Gambian like any one on the list. What is wrong about > > writing a congratulatory letter to the winner of the election. Whether > > you like it or not, whether we write it or not, people will do it. > > Heads of states and other diplomats will very soon be congratulating > > the incumbent and the chosen Colonel Jammeh(Jah May). > > Jammeh gets it whether you like it or not. Please put your anger aside > > and accept the man. > > Where is Lawyer Darboe? can somebody answer this question for me. It > > is clear that we(Gambians) do not want him. Seven consequences out of > > twenty-seven. What a big dissapointment. > > Sarian you have no choice but YAYA. > > > > . > > Alieu, you get it. There is no other way to put it than how you do it. > > I myself was a victim of the bad behavior of those foreign teachers at > > Muslim High School. Do you think Yaya is wrong by controlling the > > issuing of Gambian passport when we never want to go back when we are > > done with our programms? > > REMEMBER" Aleaf that was blown aloof by the wind will definitely come > > back to the mother earth" > > BADA > > Who knows the results of the remaining consequences? please post > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:34:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Alieu Jawara <umjawara@cc.UManitoba.CA> To: Gambia-l <Gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Please get my point guys Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960927165352.6527A-100000@antares.cc.umanitoba.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
Hi everyone, =09Thanks for your comments Sarian, Musa, Moe and Lamin. I think the=20 one that is closest to understanding what I mean is Lamin Drammeh. I'm=20 not by all means trying to be nationalist because my religion forbids=20 that. "Private classes" in Gambia is a big market and teachers rely on=20 it more than they do on their salaries. Imagine an Economics teacher=20 who gives "private classes" to 400 students (by the way this is a fair=20 number) and gets atleast D150 from each, why would he care about his=20 salaries. There is a lot of struggle from these students to get classes=20 from their teachers. The teachers ofcourse explin things better at=20 their private classes than they do at school. Why should we allow this?=20 I played my part when I was there, even though I only had an A'level=20 then, I offered free tutoring to students taking Math and Sciene at both=20 O'and A'levels. The Private classes coursed a lot of frustration amongst=20 most Gambian teachers because of the way the market is driven towards the= =20 foreigners. I can't blame Moe Jallow for his comments because I don't=20 think he Knows what happens down there. =09About the question why I'm not going home....If you read my posting=20 carefully I'm refering to those who have no intention of going back to=20 school or atleast not in the near future. I am currently doing my=20 Masters in Civil Engineering and hopefully, God willing, do my PhD.=20 afterwards. After my studies I'll be the first to return and help=20 develop my country and, more important than that go back and teach=20 the Qur=E1n. This is my goal folks! =20 Thanks very much,=20
Alieu. =20
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 19:55:22 -0400 From: AfrImports@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Jammeh declared winner Message-ID: <960927195520_112727288@emout18.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0.9966.emout18.mail.aol.com.843868520"
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Gambia-l:
This report, among other things, underscores what some of us expected all along. Darboe has reportedly sought refuge in the Senegalese Embassy; soldiers are openly celebrating Jammeh's victory; the opposition is crying foul now .....etc. Apparently many underestimated the military's determination to stay at the helm.
Jawara got us in this mess! (I expect some negative reactions. So what?)
Peace! Amadou
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BANJUL, Sept 27 (Reuter) - Gambia's military strongman Yahya Jammeh= won presidential elections held to end two years of army rule in the sma= ll West African state, a final declaration showed on Friday. =
=0D An official printout of results from the Provisional Independent Elec= toral Commission said Jammeh polled 220,011 votes, or 55.76 percent of th= e total, to 141,387 votes, or 35.84 percent, for his strongest civilian c= hallenger, Ousainou Darboe. =
=0D The two other civilian candidates, Amath Bah of the National Reconcil= iation Party and Sidia Jatta of the People's Democratic Organisation for = Independence and Socialism, got 21,759 votes or 5.5 percent and 11,337 vo= tes or 2.9 percent respectively. =
=0D Wild celebrations broke out in the streets of the capital Banjul afte= r electoral chief Gabriel Roberts announced the results on television. =
=0D Soldiers in uniform were shown on televison dancing with Jammeh's min= isters at an impromptu state house party, while Jammeh appeared in a flow= ing gown and dark glasses shaking hands with ministers, cheering women an= d office staff. =
=0D About 88 percent of the electorate voted peacefully on Thursday, but = Darboe later took refuge in the Senegalese embassy in Banjul with some re= latives and political associates. It was not immediately clear why he did= so. =
=0D 18:11 09-27-96 =0D
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:06:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Gambia candidate takes refuge at Senegal embassy (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960927170616.29620B-100000@saul7.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 9:20:42 PDT From: Reuters <C-reuters@clari.net> Newsgroups: clari.world.africa.western, clari.world.gov.politics, clari.news.refugees, clari.news.immigration Subject: Gambia candidate takes refuge at Senegal embassy
DAKAR (Reuter) - Lawyer Ousainou Darboe, main rival to Gambia's military leader Yahya Jammeh in the presidential election, has taken refuge in Senegal's embassy in Gambia's capital Banjul, official Senegalese sources in Senegal said on Friday. Darboe, they added, had been in the embassy with members of his family since Thursday evening when polls closed and vote counting began in the election designed to restore the tiny West African country to civilian rule. Jammeh, who toppled civilian president Sir Dawda Jawara in 1994, led the four-man field with results from over half the constituencies officially declared. Electoral officials said Jammeh had 76,790 votes to Darboe's 58,356 but commentators said the race was still open as results had not yet been announced for two of Darboe's strongholds.
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:06:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Gambia's army ruler wins civilian-rule election (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960927170640.29620C-100000@saul7.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:10:21 PDT From: Reuters <C-reuters@clari.net> Newsgroups: clari.world.africa.western Subject: Gambia's army ruler wins civilian-rule election
BANJUL, Gambia (Reuter) - Gambia's military leader Yahya Jammeh coasted to an emphatic victory Friday in presidential elections to end army rule in the tiny West African country, provisional results showed. His main rival, lawyer Ousainou Darboe, took refuge in the Senegalese embassy in Banjul along with some family members, according to Senegalese officials in Dakar. With 45 of 47 constituencies or 81 percent of the vote counted, Jammeh's tally was 199,650 votes or 55 percent of the total. Darboe received 131,035 votes or 36 percent, according to official returns issued by the electoral commission. With the remaining constituencies accounting for just 70,000 votes, Jammeh's victory was assured. Two marginal civilian candidates -- hotel manager Amath Bah of the National Reconciliation Party and Sidia Jatta of the small People's Democratic Organization for Independence and Socialism -- polled 20,977 and 10,571 votes respectively. Electoral commission chairman Gabriel Roberts was expected to make a formal declaration of results later. It was not immediately clear if there had been any direct threat to Darboe, who was reported by state television to have cast his vote in Banjul Thursday, polling day. Some of his aides were arrested during campaign violence and many said they were beaten up by soldiers after a clash with Jammeh supporters a few days before voting. Jammeh's win is bound to alarm democracy campaigners in West Africa faced with a new political challenge: coupmakers exploiting the advantage of incumbency to legitimise their rule through the ballot box. Such elections left political tension in their wake in Niger and Chad. Jammeh, 31, seized power in a 1994 coup, toppling elected president Sir Dawda Jawara who had ruled the tiny country of one million people from independence from Britain in 1965. Jammeh resigned from the army last month to contest the elections that he brought forward from 1998 following Western pressure. Western creditors froze aid and some put a temporary ban on their nationals travelling to the tourist haven. -- C O P Y R I G H T * R E M I N D E R
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:39:08 -0400 From: SBojang@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: VICTORY Message-ID: <960927203908_112757732@emout19.mail.aol.com>
My Dear Brother Mafy:
You ought to be ashamed of your self celebrating our nations tragidy. There is no uphoria anywhere in the Gambia tonight. A vast MAJORITY of the Gambian People who voted, and they know they voted to elect Ousainou Darboe not Yaya and trying to come to terms with their victory they have benn stripped of by the military. My friend even Yaya and his stoogies anre not celebrating any victory 'cause they know they manipulated the election results to guarantee a victory for Yaya. In captain Touray's own words "Jammeh will win whether you vote for him or not..." So the outcome was decided before people went to the polls. W'll see what's going to happend the next few days to come. I hope our economy will not crash.
I am very bitter about this ratification of the African style militaricracy. I will call you when I calm down.
Take care.
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:50:09 -0700 From: sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Please get my point guys Message-ID: <199609280050.RAA26803@thesky.incog.com>
Hi Alieu/Buba,
You're welcome! Hurry up and finish your studies and go back home but don't tell others to do the same. Get it! my point is stop telling people when to go back home and what to say or write. That's all I care about, it doesn't matter who you support you're entitled but I just don't want to here you should do this and that.
good weekend to all!
Sarian
> From umjawara@cc.UManitoba.CA Fri Sep 27 15:42:23 1996 > Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:34:20 -0500 (CDT) > From: Alieu Jawara <umjawara@cc.UManitoba.CA> > To: "GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Please get my point guys > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE > X-To: Gambia-l <Gambia-l@u.washington.edu> > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.0 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > Hi everyone, > Thanks for your comments Sarian, Musa, Moe and Lamin. I think the > one that is closest to understanding what I mean is Lamin Drammeh. I'm > not by all means trying to be nationalist because my religion forbids > that. "Private classes" in Gambia is a big market and teachers rely on > it more than they do on their salaries. Imagine an Economics teacher > who gives "private classes" to 400 students (by the way this is a fair > number) and gets atleast D150 from each, why would he care about his > salaries. There is a lot of struggle from these students to get classes > from their teachers. The teachers ofcourse explin things better at > their private classes than they do at school. Why should we allow this? > I played my part when I was there, even though I only had an A'level > then, I offered free tutoring to students taking Math and Sciene at both > O'and A'levels. The Private classes coursed a lot of frustration amongst > most Gambian teachers because of the way the market is driven towards the > foreigners. I can't blame Moe Jallow for his comments because I don't > think he Knows what happens down there. > About the question why I'm not going home....If you read my posting > carefully I'm refering to those who have no intention of going back to > school or atleast not in the near future. I am currently doing my > Masters in Civil Engineering and hopefully, God willing, do my PhD. > afterwards. After my studies I'll be the first to return and help > develop my country and, more important than that go back and teach > the Qurán. This is my goal folks! > Thanks very much, > > Alieu.
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:10:00 EDT From: "BOJANG,BUBA" <BBOJANG@MUSIC.TRANSY.EDU> To: <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Message-ID: <27SEP96.25020113.0020.MUSIC@MUSIC.TRANSY.EDU>
In the name of God,the beneficient, the merciful. Fellas, I think Moe Jallow has done a great job for us,on that note Moe on behalf of everybody thank you for the good work. A lot of Gambians are here with me in Lexington,Ky.who are also saying thank you for making
available the results. Tony, your advice taken but I think it was Sarian who didn't seem to und erstand what I was putting across. Anyway let's forget about that now. yes, yes, Sarian, I can't wait for 1999 to leave this country. If I can do something to bring it closer, I will do so. Maybe I will even be there before Alieu.(INSHA ALAHU) REMEMBER"A leaf that was blown aloof by the wind will definitely come back to mother earth" BADA Pa Mambuna will use my address sometime later to say hi to the list members.
I hope we will appreciate that.
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:38:58 -0400 (EDT) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: BUBA'S message Message-ID: <9609280338.AA47406@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Buba, you wrote:
> In the name of God,the beneficient, the merciful. > Fellas, > I think Moe Jallow has done a great job for us,on that note Moe on > behalf of everybody thank you for the good work. A lot of Gambians are > here with me in Lexington,Ky.who are also saying thank you for making > available the results.
Buba, I think that you meant to thank Momodou Camara for providing the results of the elections. He was the one who provided us with all the updated information.
I would also like to thank Numukunda Dardo, Amadou Janneh and Abdou Touray for updating us with the results.
Thanks Guys.
Moe S. Jallow
_____________________________________________________________________________ mjallow@sct.edu _____________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 00:07:52 -0400 (EDT) From: awali@st6000.sct.edu (Aminu Wali) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: The Gambia: Looking Ahead... Message-ID: <9609280407.AA36882@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello List members,
This is the Nigerian brother saying: Assalaam Alaikum to all of you. I have been quiet for quite a while due to other things but I have browsing through your messages from time to time.
I just want to send a short note about the elections:
I would like to say congratulations for winning the elections. However, you must remember that winning is not everything. You have to be able to DELIVER allthose promises. The Gambians didn't elect Jammeh in office to be better of, but to be better.
To Darbo's supporters, I would like to say it is time to move on. I understand your fear. You may be working towards the same common goals but you may have to take different routes to get there. It is to start implementing your plans for the future of the country. If Jammeh fails his people, then you will be in for threat. You still have a chance.
I thank you all.
Alhagi Aminu Wali
P.S Moe, we need to discuss the elections sometime when you have time.
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 00:25:10 -0400 From: SBojang@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: VICTORY??????? Message-ID: <960928002509_295373698@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Subj: Re: VICTORY Date: 96-09-27 20:39:23 EDT From: SBojang To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu
My Dear Brother Mafy:
You ought to be ashamed of your self celebrating our nations tragidy. There is no uphoria anywhere in the Gambia tonight. A vast MAJORITY of the Gambian People who voted, and they know they voted to elect Ousainou Darboe not Yaya and trying to come to terms with their victory they have benn stripped of by the military. My friend even Yaya and his stoogies anre not celebrating any victory 'cause they know they manipulated the election results to guarantee a victory for Yaya. In captain Touray's own words "Jammeh will win whether you vote for him or not..." So the outcome was decided before people went to the polls. W'll see what's going to happend the next few days to come. I hope our economy will not crash.
I am very bitter about this ratification of the African style militaricracy. I will call you when I calm down.
Take care.
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 00:35:36 -0400 From: LIEDRAMMEH@aol.com To: Gambia-L@u.washington.edu Subject: Appeal to GAMBIA-L members Message-ID: <960928003533_295380983@emout07.mail.aol.com>
This is a personal appeal to all members of GAMBIA-L to exercise restraint, respect and civility towards one another. Frankly I was disappointed to see the use of obscene language by a few members. It is obvious that tempers are high for or against events that are currently unfolding in The Gambia, however this is not the time for bickering amongst ourselves. We can have mature intelligent discussions without name-calling; moreover none of us here is running for office (laugh)!
Our country, at this point is at a cross-roads, it is time we set our differences aside, put our heads together and exploit the richness of our ethnic diversities. We may not all have the same political affiliations or convictions, but I can bet that we all share one common concern, and that is the well-being of The Gambia and ALL its people.
So please my friends, let's tone it down a little, we can honestly have fun and not be mean to each other. This is by no means talking down anyone, it is simply another opinion from one of us who does not agree that the use of foul language on a medium of this kind may not be welcome by others. If indeed anyone is offended by these comments, my apologies.
May the forces of good prevail in The Gambia.
Abdoulie Drammeh Gaithersburg, Maryland
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:38:45 -0700 From: mafy <mafy@avana.net> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Join the celebration Message-ID: <324CC7F5.7979@avana.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
SARJO/GAMBIA-L
The election of Col. Jammeh was free and fair. It was monitored with the assistance of an international panel who by all account declared it free and fair. All the sporadic skirmishes preceeding election day were caused by Darboe supporters. Like I said in my earlier piece, WELCOME ONBOARD, join the rebuilding process. Meanwhile, we are having a victory party in Atlanta on Saturday 09/27/96.
Mafy aka Manlafy (DeVry Institute of Technology)
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 02:01:00 -0400 From: SillahB@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: TIME TO CONCEDE! Message-ID: <960928020059_531897216@emout09.mail.aol.com>
Fellow brothers and sisters, It seems the verdict is in, and unfortunately some of us do not like it including myself but lets just accept it. This election has divided us(gambia-l) considerably over the last months, and I think we need to come together as a family again. Just like any undertaking in life, you win sometimes and loose at times, this time we lost! We need to start healing those wounds! You may have stepped on a lot of toes during the game, suddenly the game is over and you looked up the score-board, it shows you lost, grab your nearest opponent and wish them luck as they move on. This is character, it is integrity and it is spotsmanship or call anything within that framework. To those peolple I disagree with I hope you get the picture.
Now the APRC must understand that they are given the mandate not to better themselves but to better the Gambia. This mandate does not call for continuous human rights violations nor the end of transparency and accountability. This means freedom of speech, and any freedoms within the guidelines of the newly adopted constitution. As we wait for the next elections in the year 2001, you will be carefully monitored from every possible angle.
To the guy that suggested a congratulatory note, I will sign it if writtten only to concede to victory and nothing at all. I will still maintain my position until proven wrong, and yet still willing to work towards the uplifting of the country as none of us should loose that goal. To the fellows partying in north Atlanta, you dont have to invite me but it would have been hell-of-a-character to do so. To Tombong, you can now be the official mouth-piece of the APRC on the list(atleast some legitimacy).
Finally, I'd like to welcome all new members particularly Bass Drammeh in Qatar whom I have not seen in ages. Love ya!
Baboucarr Sillah Atlanta, Ga
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 17:20:42 JST +900 From: binta@iuj.ac.jp To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: TIME TO CONCEDE! Message-ID: <199609280818.RAA05880@mlsv.iuj.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Gambia-l,
It is time for Sarian and Buba to forget the past. I hate to see us taking on each other one on one. That clearly defeats the purpose of a discussion group. Why not I make this suggestion to all members: If you post something to the List and only you and one other person take turns to debate, do stop after the second round. It simply shows that we are not interested in, or are disturbed by, that exchange.
I and many others would have loved to see the back of Yahya and his henchmen. More than anything I was, and still am, afraid that they will not get the respect and support of our friends abroad--a factor and asset no nation can do without. Besides this, I have little to complain about. While Gambians would not easily stake their heads for anyone, they are always ready to vote the way they desire. That is one thing they will not readily compromise. That is guaranteed by our democratic norm. If the election suffered from foul play, it may not be large enough to account for the difference between Yahya and Darbo.
The Gambian people have given their voice to Jammeh. We should all bear the positive and negative consequences of our collective action. There is no time to fret; no need for more political gimmicks; no place for a permanent divide. VOX POPLI VOX DEI.
Let us march on. No need for mockery or digging of old graves. I rest my case.
Lamin Drammeh(Japan).
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 09:32:43 -0400 (EDT) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: The Gambia: Looking Ahead... Message-ID: <9609281332.AA05706@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Aminu Wali, wrote:
> Hello List members, > > This is the Nigerian brother saying: Assalaam Alaikum to all of you. > I have been quiet for quite a while due to other things but I have > browsing through your messages from time to time. > > I just want to send a short note about the elections: > > I would like to say congratulations for winning the elections. > However, you must remember that winning is not everything. You have > to be able to DELIVER allthose promises. The Gambians didn't elect > Jammeh in office to be better of, but to be better. > > To Darbo's supporters, I would like to say it is time to move on. I > understand your fear. You may be working towards the same common > goals but you may have to take different routes to get there. It is > to start implementing your plans for the future of the country. If > Jammeh fails his people, then you will be in for threat. You still > have a chance. > > I thank you all. > > Alhagi Aminu Wali > > > > P.S > Moe, we need to discuss the elections sometime when you have time.
Oga sir,
Thank you for your piece. It is indeed a victory for the APRC but no one is celebrating as you see from the list. Just as expected, the did everything possible to win. It was not a free and fair election from the beginning, and that is why they will have a had time convincing the international community. I think the APRC should be dubbed "Another Political Rage Creators"
Regards, Moe S. Jallow
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 11:19:49 +0500 From: Lamin <yudris@ica.net> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Reconcile the political distinctions. Message-ID: <324CC385.58A@ica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My dear fellows:
Foremost, I wish to thank the following people for bringing us the results of the election: Momodou Camara, Numukunda Darboe, Amadou Janneh, and Abdou Touray!
Secondly, I wish to appeal to all the members of the list, to reconcile our political distinctions, and look forward to the future of our beloved country. There have been quite some heated exchanges among some list members. It's now time to put those political distinctions aside, and work toward the betterment of our country. There is a saying in French that goes=97=97: "Le temps perdu ne se retrove jamais." Meaning: T= ime and tide wait for no man.=20
We must accept, and respect the choice of the people. Even though, some of us wish it hadn't happened that way. The reason being the notorious reputation of some military regimes in our continent.=20
The people of The Gambia, I believe, have elected APRC for the betterment of the country, and not only for [themselves]. Let's hope, and wish that it delivers its promises it made to the people.
=C0 bient=F4t,
Lamin Camara (Toronto, Canada).
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 19:03:27 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reconcile the political distinctions. Message-ID: <19960928175824.AAA19768@LOCALNAME>
Here are the last two results from home.- APRC UDP PDOIS NRC Serrekunda West 15696 9714 700 581 Foni Bintang 4665 638 56 201
There were a few errors from the previous posting: Banjul North PDOIS had 97 and not 74, NRC had 74 and not 97 L-Badibou APRC had 1053 and not 1653 Kombo south PDOIS had 328 Foni Brefet PDOIS had 328 Niani APRC had 3633 and not 3336
I just got the PIEC statement of results and the rest of the figures are correct.
----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Gambian people have elected Yaya Jammeh and gang and we should accept and respect their decision. Most of us are disappointed because the parties we support have lost but that is not the end of the world. It was not a surprise knowing the record of the military elsewhere in Africa. Lets all hope and pray for a peaceful and prosperous future for our beloved mother land.
"The parlimentary elections should be the most interesting one because that is what will decide, ultimately, the composition of our National Assembly. The more members we can have in the Assembly from different political affiliations, the more interesting and vibrant our democratic process would be. Lets pray that the opposition would be able to get into parliment a lot of compitent young men and women who would be fearless and tireless in checking on the Government on our behalf. If that can happen, our country will soon be on its way to where no African country , save Bostwana and South Africa, has been able to get before."
I hope that all political detainees are released immediately!
Momodou Camara
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 13:12:47 -0500 (EST) From: OUSMAN GAJIGO <gajigoo@wabash.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Let's move on Message-ID: <406FFA5513@scholar.wabash.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Hi everyone
I for one, I do not believe Yahya Jammeh was the choice of the Gambian people. I believe the only reason he won was because most people were afraid of what might happen if he looses. The possibility for another coup was very likely. Whether Darboe got the same media attention as Jammeh wouldn't have made any difference. As a friend of mine rightly just told me, this election "was a vote to maintain stability in the country....."
Well, the decision has been made and it is final for the next 5 years. Let's just hope that the development will continue and our freedoms of expression and speech will be restored and also an end to countless decrees.
Ousman Crawfordsville, IN
ps. I won't be a signatory to any congratulatory letter to Jammeh. Ousman Gajigo Crawfordsville, IN
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 13:36:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Yaya Jallow <yj0001@jove.acs.unt.edu> To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: "DECISION RENDUE" Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.960928124546.29968A-100000@jove.acs.unt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Fellas,
Well, beloved friends, the Gambian populace has spoken, and Jammeh and Co. has managed to stir through. This is the beauty of Democracy and the will of the people must be respected. While we all must recognize that the playing field prior to election day was never leveled, at this point we cannot be caught up in the past but to forge ahead. The battle is lost to those who oppose Jammeh but the war is not lost. Those who fought and lost will fight another day. One important thing is that, ruling Gambians by decrees will no longer be the order of the day. And come the opening of the National Assembly after those elections, Gambia will begin to re-take its rightful place in the community of democratic nation-sates. Jammeh and Co. will then realize that the military style governance will no longer function in an environment of real accountability and check and balances. So what we can do is to help strengthen the institutions and improve upon the process already set in motion.
On another note, the international community should now come out of the woodwork and their veil of isolationism and commend the Gambian people for taking this courageous and important step. Assisting the Gambia in its economic development endeavors should now be forthcoming, for we all know true democracy cannot thrive in the midst of poverty and economic degradation. Fellas, the Gambia is blessed and to appreciate that is to look at some of our neighbors, e.g, Nigeria with all of its monumental resources and intelligentsia is still locked up in the era of military governance (No offense to our Nigerian Pals on the list). So to quote our dear friend, Reverend Jesse Jackson, "Keep Hope Alive".
Good Weekend to 'ya all.
Yaya
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Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 04:16:58 JST +900 From: binta@iuj.ac.jp To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Let's move on Message-ID: <199609281914.EAA08168@mlsv.iuj.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Gambia-l,
Moving on is the talk of the day but how do we achieve that. My worry before and now is that the separation of the presidential and parliamentary elections was not only economically imprudent, but a measured tactic to create a `yes-man' parliament. Since the APRC is now also assured of overwhelming victory come Dec., I doubt if the responsible parliament we crave will ever come to life. Without disrespect to anyone, our new parliament may very well resemble the previous one and our democracy will laugh at us. A toothless Assembly with an impotent masculinity.
No wonder the incumbent disregarded the desire of Gambian people for a limit to the term of the presidency. Until another political milestone comes to bear on the Gambia, Yahya has a free ride!
Let us rest our case with Allah. That is what it has come to.
A very early good morning from Japan.
Lamin Drammeh.
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 17:37:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: msjaiteh@mtu.edu Subject: Re: Gambia's army ruler wins civilian-rule election (fwd) Message-ID: <199609282137.RAA03452@hemlock.ffr.mtu.edu> Content-Type: text
Can someone tell us the latest info on Lawyer Darboe's whereabout? What might have prompted him seek refuge in the Senegalese High Commission and the reaction of the Government?
Malanding Jaiteh
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 19:13:17 -0400 From: AfrImports@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: AFPRC Dissolved Message-ID: <960928191316_295882937@emout03.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0.848.emout03.mail.aol.com.843952396"
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Note: AfrImports@aol.com (African Imports) is Amadou Janneh's second address.
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BANJUL, Sept 28 (Reuter) - Gambia's newly-elected civilian presiden= t, Yahya Jammeh, said on Saturday that he had dissolved the military coun= cil which had ruled the small West African state since he took power in a= coup in 1994. =
=0D ``The Armed Forces Provisional Ruling Council (AFPRC) stands dissolve= d, the existing transitional cabinet having taken over all its functions = and responsibilities,'' he said in a statement on state television and ra= dio. =
=0D Jammeh, who was declared the winner of Thursday's election with 56 pe= rcent of the vote, said the disbanding of the council showed that he and = fellow junior officers who seized power in 1994 ``were soldiers with a di= fference.'' =
=0D ``We unflinchingly committed ourselves to the implementation of the T= ransition Programme (leading to restoration of democracy),'' he said. =
=0D All five members of the military council will also hold office in the= cabinet. Jammeh did not say when he expected the new government to be sw= orn in. =
=0D 18:27 09-28-96 =0D
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 19:17:24 -0400 From: AfrImports@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Results Challenged Message-ID: <960928191724_295885757@emout09.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0.17427.emout09.mail.aol.com.843952643"
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Gambia-l:
Well, here is a report underscoring item #2 of my predictions!
Peace! Amadou
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BANJUL, Sept 28 (Reuter) - Gambia's chief opposition leader, who so= ught refuge in the Senegalese embassy in the middle of presidential elect= ions, said on Saturday his party did not accept the poll results. =
=0D Military ruler Yahya Jammeh has been proclaimed winner in Thursday's = election with 56 percent of votes. Chief opposition leader Ousainou Darbo= e of the United Democratic Party (UDP) was second with 36 percent. =
=0D A UDP statement signed by Darboe from his refuge referred to the ``ho= stile electioneering environment and unlevel nature of the political fiel= d.'' =
=0D ``Consequently the UDP does not accept the result until all informati= on relating to the condition, conduct and counting procedures and other m= atters are collected and analysed,'' said the statement distributed to re= porters by a UDP official. =
=0D The statement made no reference to Darboe's flight but a senior aide = told British Broadcasting Corporation radio by telephone from the embassy= that he and Darboe were still inside the mission. He said Gambian secret= police had surrounded Darboe's house, which is close to the embassy. =
=0D 14:51 09-28-96 =0D
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 19:22:14 -0400 From: AfrImports@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: More developments Message-ID: <960928192214_295888879@emout10.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0.538.emout10.mail.aol.com.843952934"
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More news...
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=2Ec The Associated Press =
=0D By DEMBA JAWO =
=0D Associated Press Writer =
=0D BANJUL, Gambia (AP) -- With his closest rival in hiding, Gambia's ruler h= eaded to victory Friday in presidential elections that will end army rule= in this tiny West African nation. =
=0D Results from all but two of the country's polling stations showed Yayha J= ammeh with more than 60 percent of the vote, trailed by Ousainou Darbo wi= th about 35 percent. Two other candidates, who were not expected to do we= ll, received less than 5 percent each. =
=0D Jammeh, a former army captain who seized power in a July 1994 coup, promi= sed a return to civilian rule, then retired from the military last month = so that he could run. =
=0D Darbo, a prominent lawyer from the United Democratic Party, sought refuge= in the Senegalese Embassy after results from Thursday's voting became cl= ear. Darbo did not make a public statement but apparently feared retaliat= ion from Jammeh's supporters, who include the military. =
=0D At a recent news conference, he claimed to have received death threats du= ring the campaign. =
=0D Jammeh, 31, was an army captain when he led a coup in July 1994 that oust= ed the civilian government of Dawda Jawara, whom the military accused of = massive corruption and fraud. =
=0D Jammeh maintained a ban on all political parties from the time of the cou= p until last month. =
=0D There were no reports of violence during voting or during the campaign, w= hich lasted barely three weeks. Jammeh was in a clear position to win bas= ed on his previous two years in power, his monopoly of state-run radio an= d TV, and his decrees banning any members of the ousted government from p= olitics. =
=0D That ruled out Gambia's most seasoned politicians. =
=0D During the campaign, Jammeh's opponents accused him of wasting millions o= f dollars on useless projects such as a decorative arch built at the entr= ance to Banjul, and a new airport terminal. =
=0D Jammeh cited these same projects as evidence of his commitment to improvi= ng Gambia's development and attractiveness to tourists, who are the natio= n's second-biggest industry. =
=0D About 450,000 people were eligible to vote in the country of about 1 mill= ion people. Gambia, a sliver of about 11,000 square miles sandwiched in t= he middle of Senegal, became independent from Britain in 1965. It had onl= y one leader, Jawara, until Jammeh's coup. =
=0D AP-NY-09-27-96 2354EDT =
=0D Copyright 1996 The Associated Press. The information contained in the A= P news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise di= stributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. =
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