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From momodou@inform-bbs.dk Thu Feb 1 01:20:27 1996 Return-Path: <momodou@inform-bbs.dk> Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01657; Thu, 1 Feb 96 01:20:24 -0800 Received: from uucp.DK.net by mx5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19451; Thu, 1 Feb 96 01:20:21 -0800 Received: from pingnet (uucp@localhost) by uucp.DK.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id KAA17976 for gambia-l@u.washington.edu; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:20:09 +0100 Received: from inform by ic1.ic.dk with UUCP id AA16342 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for gambia-l@u.washington.edu); Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:59:10 +0100 From: momodou@inform-bbs.dk (Momodou Camara) Reply-To: momodou@inform-bbs.dk To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: We did it ! Date: 01 Feb 1996 08:45:20 GMT Message-Id: <1114111.3952051@inform-bbs.dk> Organization: Inform.BBS X-Charset: Latin1 X-Char-Esc: 29
Hi Tony ! The message has been received. Congratulations! Regards from Momodou Camara
gambia-l@u.washington.edu,Internet wrote at 4:00 on 01.02.96 to Momodou Camara about "We did it !".
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Hi Tony,
Thanks for your message and the welcmoe note. Since I am a bit far from all of you, please do me a favour by tapping yourselves on the shoulder and say eureka! What a good job!
Bye! Lamin Drammeh, Japan. From L.Konteh-95@student.lut.ac.uk Thu Feb 1 07:11:03 1996 Return-Path: <L.Konteh-95@student.lut.ac.uk> Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12320; Thu, 1 Feb 96 07:11:02 -0800 Received: from bgate.lut.ac.uk by mx5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23847; Thu, 1 Feb 96 07:05:50 -0800 Received: by hpl.lut.ac.uk (15.11/SMI-4.1) id AA24020; Thu, 1 Feb 96 15:05:06 gmt Message-Id: <9602011505.AA24020@hpl.lut.ac.uk> From: L Konteh <L.Konteh-95@student.lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Intro. from L. Konteh To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Date: Thu, 1 Feb 96 15:05:05 GMT In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.3.91l.960131174827.5839D-100000@saul7.u.washington.edu>; from "A. Loum" at Jan 31, 96 6:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0 (LUT)]
My dear Brothers and Sisters, Thank you for welcoming me through the electronic media. First, may i appologise sincerely for the delay in sending this introductory messasge. We just finished our first semester exams; that coupled with some other course works unable me to even read my mail. Enough of that flimsy excuse. Well my name is Lang Konteh, from Badibou (just in case any Kiankas are around). I did my secondary schooling at the Gambia High.[1973-'79] I worked for RVH for 9 years before i moved to GAMTEL to take up the post of an electrical engineer in 1990.I still work for Gamtel and i am currently undergoing a 3 year programme at Loughborough University here in UK. I shall be returning home 'Insha-allah' in october this year. I think you now have a gist of who i am. Oh, by the way i am also married with 2 daughters. Its indeed light heartening to know that we accept each as brothers and sisters even though some of us haven't seen each other. On the other hand it is indeed disturbing to learnt that others are baying at each others' blood in the Gambia. I am sorry for putting it in such crude terms.I hope you all will agree with me that Military rule is no solution to Africa's problems and Gambia in particular. I need not mention examples. There is very little i can say with the events back home because of my present status. So forgive me if i just generalise the issues. My major concern is the 'Human cost' of this kind of military intervention to what is universally considered as a truely parliamentary democracy ( though not perfect but better than most).Let us take note that Gambia is not endowed with any of the earth's natural resources. Compare that with our neighbouring countries and see whether we were doing badly economically prior to the military take-over. Reasons for the take-over we were told is corruption and rampant mismanagement. This will be irradicated and replaced by a truely accountable and transparent system. Let us in our heart of hearts see whether that was the case.I read the other day that money from some of the develoment projects is from God. Where is the Transparency? We were told somebody ran away with $3,000,000., where then is the accountabilty? Who awards the contracts ( any competitive tender procedure?) One should be sceptical of any regime military or otherwise who in a space of less than 19 months sacked or replaced 1 works minister, 2 health ministers, 3 finance ministers, 1 secretary general, 2 economics ministers, 2 justice ministers etc etc.Let us closely monitor events in the Gambia Ladies and Gentlemen and see whether there isn't a better way than what we got at the moment. There i rest my case. Ps this is not a criticsm but a simple observation. Adieu. Lang From tloum@u.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 08:44:15 1996 Return-Path: <tloum@u.washington.edu> Received: from saul3.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19739; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:44:14 -0800 Received: by saul3.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07458; Thu, 1 Feb 96 08:44:13 -0800 X-Sender: tloum@saul3.u.washington.edu Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:44:13 -0800 (PST) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list GAMBIA-L <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: We did it ! In-Reply-To: <199602010526.AAA01783@forest2.ffr.mtu.edu> Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91l.960201083750.16222D-100000@saul3.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Malanding, you are welcome. As the literal wollof translation goes, we all share it ( Nyoko boka ). Can I remind the rest to send a note of confirmation to the group, incase anybody's addition did not go through sucessfully. Abdourahman, did you receive your welcome message. I got a response from the host listserver indicating that yours was not processed at the time. Thanks Tony
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Anthony W Loum tloum@u.washington.edu Supervisor, Business Administration Library 206-543-4360 voice 100 Balmer Hall 206-685-9392 fax University of Washington Box 353200 Seattle, Wa.98195-3200 =========================================================================
On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Malanding S. Jaiteh wrote:
> Tony, Message received. Thanks to you all for the hard work. > > Malanding > From at137@columbia.edu Thu Feb 1 09:18:45 1996 Return-Path: <at137@columbia.edu> Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22913; Thu, 1 Feb 96 09:18:41 -0800 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu by mx5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21293; Thu, 1 Feb 96 09:18:40 -0800 Received: (from at137@localhost) by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA12082; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:18:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:18:28 -0500 (EST) From: Abdourahman Touray <at137@columbia.edu> X-Sender: at137@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Got it! Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960201121737.10298A-100000@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
HEY, This is to confirm that I have received the mailing. From at137@columbia.edu Thu Feb 1 09:28:54 1996 Return-Path: <sm@columbia.edu> Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23851; Thu, 1 Feb 96 09:28:53 -0800 Received: from parev.cc.columbia.edu by mx5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23942; Thu, 1 Feb 96 09:28:43 -0800 Received: (from sm@localhost) by parev.cc.columbia.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA03882; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:28:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:28:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199602011728.MAA03882@parev.cc.columbia.edu> From: at137@columbia.edu To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: cnet clip, Moscow, Tokyo most expensive for business travel
HI FELLOWS, I AM SENDING YOU THIS WITH SOME DOUBTS ABOUT ITS RELEVANCE. I WILL HOWEVER LET THE GROUP DECIDE WHAT KIND OF INFO. IT WANTS SENT. DO I SEND EVERYTHING THAT RELATES TO THE GAMBIA, OR DO I SEND ONLY "PERTINENT" INFO? PLEASE LET ME KNOW. -ABDOU. ANPA: Wc: 472/0; Id: a1408; Src: reut; Sel: reuff; Adate: 01-30-N.A; Ver: 0/1 Approved: e.news@clari.net Xref: news.columbia.edu clari.biz.misc:20872 clari.biz.industry.travel+leisure:501
BRUSSELS (Reuter) - Business travelers trying to keep down the costs should steer clear of Moscow, Tokyo, Buenos Aires and Hong Kong and head instead for Belarus and Albania, a survey on business travel showed Tuesday. New York ranked as the 25th most expensive destination out of the 114 cities surveyed by the European Union-supported EuroCost-Luxembourg. The study found Russia's capital to be the most expensive city in the world for business travelers, with a day and a night costing an average of $543 -- way above the $342 needed in New York. Tokyo was the second-most expensive city at $516, followed by Buenos Aires at $468 and Hong Kong at $450. Copenhagen, rounding off the top five, was the Europe Union's most expensive city, costing $427 for a day and a night stop off. At the other end of the scale, the survey indicated that plenty of deals await the truly cost conscious business traveler in Belarus, Albania, Armenia, Lithuania and Western Samoa. A day and a night in Minsk costs just $125, the survey said, one dollar less than in Tirana. Yerevan ($132), Vilnius ($138) and Apia ($140) completed the bottom five run of cheap cities. EuroCost said it had published its ``Business Travel Expenses Guide'' to help companies establish a reliable system of checking on travel costs. The guide costs $400. ``(Businesses) can either use the data to grant expenses before a business trip, or to set a maximum limit to which expenses will be reimbursed,'' it said. To come up with figures for 114 cities, EuroCost said it collected the prices for a night in a four- or five-star hotel, lunch, dinner, taxi fares, telephone calls, drinks in a hotel bar, laundry of one shirt and a daily newspaper. Hotels, not surprisingly, were the main factor in cost, with a four- or five-star abode costing $390 a night in Moscow, $359 in Tokyo and $341 in Buenos Aires. Cities with the cheapest hotels -- Vilnius ($73), Apia ($93) and Gambia's Banjul ($95) -- had something of an unfair advantage as, according to EuroCost, they have no four-or five-star hotels. EuroCost also noted that in Tblisi, Georgia, a night in the city's ``magnificent'' but only business hotel costs just $264 -- including a candle, as there is rarely electricity at night. Dinner -- main dish, dessert, coffee and half a bottle of wine -- was most expensive in Copenhagen at $68, followed by Oslo ($63), Seoul ($59), Moscow ($56) and Tokyo ($55). It was cheapest in Yerevan, at $5. Overall costs for a day and a night in well-known cities included: Ottawa ($251), Montreal ($261), Geneva ($384), Berlin ($376), Brussels ($356), London ($352), Paris ($328), Beijing ($323), Sydney ($315), Cape Town and Mexico City ($303), Bangkok ($300), Kiev ($286), Rome ($274) and Barcelona ($218). -- This is the NEW RELEASE of the ClariNet e.News! If you notice any problems with the new edition, please mail us at editor@clari.net and let us know. Thanks! More information can be found on our web site at http://www.clari.net/ or in clari.net.announce. From sarian@osmosys.incog.com Thu Feb 1 09:29:48 1996 Return-Path: <sarian@osmosys.incog.com> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23939; Thu, 1 Feb 96 09:29:46 -0800 Received: from ns.incog.com by mx4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25857; Thu, 1 Feb 96 09:29:46 -0800 Received: from osmosys.incog.com by incog.com (SMI-8.6/94082501) id JAA28472; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:27:29 -0800 Received: from thesky.incog.com by osmosys.incog.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06738; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:29:17 -0800 Received: by thesky.incog.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA25576; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:27:41 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:27:41 -0800 From: sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) Message-Id: <199602011727.JAA25576@thesky.incog.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: We did it ! X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII
I received the message yesterday and (Jarama) good job.
Sarian
> From tloum@u.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 18:10 PST 1996 > Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:00:24 -0800 (PST) > From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> > To: "Multiple recipients of list GAMBIA-L" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-To: GAMBIA-L@u.washington.edu > X-Sender: tloum@saul7.u.washington.edu > X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN > Subject: We did it ! > > > > Hi Everyone, > > Congratulations to all of us and welcome to GAMBIA-L. I have added > everybody to the list and you should all have received the standard > welcome message. We have not yet added the additional piece drafted by > Katim which will be done soon. I am taking this opportunity to take an > inventory of the list. I want to make sure that everybody has been added > on, in the event that some typos were made in the addresses. So, I am > asking that everybody responds to the list and confirms that they > received this message and the welcome. Katim and I will match it against > what we have now to ensure that everybody is properly added on. > We will finalize the administrative functions soon. So, I am > asking Katim to continue taking the lead role to ensure the smooth > functioning of GAMBIA-L. > Again, let us congratulate ourselves for sticking > together to lead ourselves to even greater heights. > Sarjo, I have made sure that Modou Kolley is included. I > will give you a call later on tonight. > Katim, I have sent you two messages on your calshp > address. I hope that you will receive them before the deadline of the > termination, otherwise I will forward them again tomorrow. > Thanks > Tony > > > ======================================================================== > > Anthony W Loum tloum@u.washington.edu > Supervisor, Business Administration Library 206-543-4360 voice > 100 Balmer Hall 206-685-9392 fax > University of Washington > Box 353200 > Seattle, Wa.98195-3200 > > ========================================================================= > > > > From AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us Thu Feb 1 11:06:15 1996 Return-Path: <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03815; Thu, 1 Feb 96 11:06:14 -0800 Received: from PSTCC4.PSTCC.CC.TN.US by mx4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16761; Thu, 1 Feb 96 11:06:13 -0800 Received: from pstcc.cc.tn.us by pstcc.cc.tn.us (PMDF V5.0-3 #11457) id <01I0P9PYRLKW8WX9MO@pstcc.cc.tn.us> for gambia-l@u.washington.edu; Thu, 01 Feb 1996 14:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 14:08:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Amadou Scattred Janneh <AJANNEH@pstcc.cc.tn.us> Subject: Re: We did it ! To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Message-Id: <01I0P9PYSXSY8WX9MO@pstcc.cc.tn.us> X-Vms-To: IN%"gambia-l@u.washington.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
I hope my confirmation message was received! I may not have sent it properly. Thanks again to Toni, Katim, etc. Amadou. From onjie@gemini.nlu.edu Thu Feb 1 11:41:37 1996 Return-Path: <onjie@gemini.nlu.edu> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06897; Thu, 1 Feb 96 11:41:36 -0800 Received: from [192.135.131.17] by mx4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24826; Thu, 1 Feb 96 11:41:34 -0800 Received: from zeus.nlu.edu by gemini.nlu.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA13950; Thu, 1 Feb 96 13:38:18 CST From: onjie@gemini.nlu.edu (Omar Njie (MBA)) Message-Id: <9602011938.AA13950@ gemini.nlu.edu > Received: by zeus.nlu.edu (NX5.67c/NX3.0X) id AA04502; Thu, 1 Feb 96 14:38:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 96 14:38:16 -0500 Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1.RR) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1.RR) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Confirmation
Ladies and Gentlemen:
This is confirm receipt of my confirnation request. I will also wanna express my confirm gratitude to katim and Tony and all the other people who initiated this project. This is a job well done.
Before we go any further, I will wanna suggest that we have all the subscribers introduce themselves. For networking purposes, this may be a good idea. After all, perhaps our discussions will be enchanced if we know a little bit about the person we talking to.
Well, my name is Omar Njie. I'm form Mbollet Ba, Lower Niumi. I went to Nusrat High (1982-87), St. Augustine's High-Sixth Form (1987-89), and then worked with the Accountant General's Dept - Treasury Unit form 1989 to 1991. I received an undergraduate degree (B.S.) form Berea College in Kentucky in May 1995 and I'm now currently working on an MBA here at Northeast Louisiana University, USA.
Again, thanks to Tony and Katim for a job well done.
Omar. From tloum@u.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 11:45:25 1996 Return-Path: <tloum@u.washington.edu> Received: from saul3.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07178; Thu, 1 Feb 96 11:45:23 -0800 Received: by saul3.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05242; Thu, 1 Feb 96 11:45:23 -0800 X-Sender: tloum@saul3.u.washington.edu Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:45:23 -0800 (PST) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list GAMBIA-L <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: We did it ! In-Reply-To: <01I0P9PYSXSY8WX9MO@pstcc.cc.tn.us> Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91l.960201113718.14205E-100000@saul3.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Your first message was bounced to Katim and myself as an error message. The reason stated was " suspicious subject " which I do not know what it means. After a further scrutiny of it, I felt that it was the address. It had the u in upper case while it should be in the lower. Although, the list name gambia-l/GAMBIA-L is not case sensitive, the rest of the address is. gambia-l or GAMBIA-L.The rest of the address should all be in lower case. For example GAMBIA-L@u.washington.edu or gambia-l@u.washington.edu So, everybody please take a note of that. Thanks Tony
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On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Amadou Scattred Janneh wrote:
> I hope my confirmation message was received! I may not have sent it > properly. Thanks again to Toni, Katim, etc. > Amadou. > From msjaiteh@mtu.edu Thu Feb 1 13:53:46 1996 Return-Path: <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17617; Thu, 1 Feb 96 13:53:45 -0800 Received: from opus.mtu.edu by mx5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27761; Thu, 1 Feb 96 13:53:44 -0800 Received: from mtu.edu (mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by opus.mtu.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id QAA06841 for <gambia-l@u.washington.edu>; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:53:43 -0500 Received: from forest1.ffr.mtu.edu (forest1.ffr.mtu.edu [141.219.149.195]) by mtu.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id QAA18566 for <gambia-l@u.washington.edu>; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:53:42 -0500 Received: from forest2.ffr.mtu.edu (forest2.ffr.mtu.edu [141.219.149.196]) by forest1.ffr.mtu.edu (8.6.10/MTU-R1.8) with ESMTP id QAA02039 for <gambia-l@u.washington.edu>; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:53:41 -0500 From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> Received: (from msjaiteh@localhost) by forest2.ffr.mtu.edu (8.6.10/MTU-C1.5) id QAA03156 for gambia-l@u.washington.edu; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:54:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199602012154.QAA03156@forest2.ffr.mtu.edu> Subject: Space, space.....! To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:54:19 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 347
Hi folks, I just want to suggest that we do not include the copy of the message in our replies inorder to help folks with 'parking space' limitations to get off the hi way. Given that we are now a 'Kaabilo'(Katim please translate kaabilo' to non-mandingo speaking folks) if not a village mail box can get crowded very quickly.
Thanks to you all. From touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu Thu Feb 1 15:07:57 1996 Return-Path: <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23274; Thu, 1 Feb 96 15:07:56 -0800 Received: from hope.soils.wisc.edu by mx5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15123; Thu, 1 Feb 96 15:07:53 -0800 Received: by hope.soils.wisc.edu; id AA25501; 4.1/42; Thu, 1 Feb 96 17:11:55 CST Date: Thu, 1 Feb 96 17:11:55 CST From: Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> Message-Id: <9602012311.AA25501@hope.soils.wisc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Greetings y'all!!
Hi everyone,
it's great to be a part of the great thing called Gambia-l. instead of wine, or champagne, i'm pouring out some 'attaya' for everyone!.
i must first apologise for the teething problems like wrong addresses, exclusions, etc. we've been having. bye and bye, i'm sure we'll fix them. i will say, too, that since i'm subscribed to the list from the 'hope' address, i can only (for now) send mail to the list from that address. which means that i'm in the very frustrating stage of learning how to use th very archaic 'mail' program. oh boy.
by the way, for those with more than one address, we can later on work out a situation where you should be able to send mail to the list from any of them by setting up some aliases for you.
i am going to be in a transition for the next 3 or so days, meaning i'm migrating from 'calshp' to 'hope'. when that's wrapped up, we'll fine-tune the list, especially on issues such as subscriptions and the info package we'd send new members.
the suggestion that we have introductions is a good idea. however, i would suggest that we try to develop a standard form that people can complete. that way, we would have uniformity in the information we are all providing. i'll draft one, and send it out, or if someone wants to voluteer and do it that would be fine. on a related note, we'll be letting people know how we've assigned duties to those who have volunteered. remember that we aim for maximum flexibility and participation. so we can always rotate.
like i said earlier on, i'm still grappling with this lousy 'mail' program, and for that reason, i would not for now, venture some opinions on the debates going on. but i *am* enjoying reading them. so keep them coming.
Abdou was wondering about how relevant to The Gambia the stuff he sends has to be. my opinion is that we should leave such to the senders' judgement. put it this way, to the extent that articles are sent out in good faith, they can be forgiven even if they might be a little general. what do you guys think?. we must though come back to the problem once in a while, especially when we start taking on other subscribers who will perhaps have less that cheap access that will be metered, and paid for on an item by item basis. Malanding also reminds us to refrain from including copies of the mail we are replying to. while the practice is a good idea, since it refreshes peoples' memories, and sets the record straight, it can also lead to a cluttering of mail boxes. again this problem might be serious enough for people with limited disk space. i would trim down whatever i'm quoting to the bare essentials, just to be nice to those who would be bothered by megatons of info they've already received.
well, i guess that's about all for now. but before i go, i'd like to say that Amadou's annoucement that he's now fasting for the first time in 13 years or so just cracked me up!. as for me, well, i'm on study-leave, and the rules have been waived for me. you might want to contact the Personnel Management Office back in Banjul for the latest regulations concerning Ramadan and those on study-leave. surely, if Ayatollah could decree death sentences on people, our PMO can at least decree to exempt them from fasting. good luck to Amadou, and i'm sure God must be impressed.
hey, y'all have a great weekend.
byek Katim From sarian@osmosys.incog.com Thu Feb 1 16:24:17 1996 Return-Path: <sarian@osmosys.incog.com> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27870; Thu, 1 Feb 96 16:24:14 -0800 Received: from ns.incog.com by mx4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22148; Thu, 1 Feb 96 16:24:13 -0800 Received: from osmosys.incog.com by incog.com (SMI-8.6/94082501) id QAA18071; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:21:57 -0800 Received: from thesky.incog.com by osmosys.incog.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA20165; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:23:46 -0800 Received: by thesky.incog.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA25698; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:22:08 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:22:08 -0800 From: sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) Message-Id: <199602020022.QAA25698@thesky.incog.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Space, space.....! X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII
Hi Malanding,
Thats a good suggestion but it really is inconvenient for me because I have my workstation customize to fit my own needs here at work, which means I have to let go of something or simply uncustomize which is a big hassle because I get tons of email a day and it makes my job much easier to reference mail so I don't get calls from forgetfull people like my self asking whats this in regards to. So sorry.
Sarian > From GAMBIA-L-owner@u.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 13:58 PST 1996 > Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:54:19 -0500 (EST) > From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> > To: "Multiple recipients of list GAMBIA-L" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Space, space.....! > X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN > > Hi folks, > I just want to suggest that we do not include the copy of the message > in our replies inorder to help folks with 'parking space' limitations > to get off the hi way. Given that we are now a 'Kaabilo'(Katim please > translate kaabilo' to non-mandingo speaking folks) if not a village > mail box can get crowded very quickly. > > Thanks to you all. > From rcole@ced.berkeley.edu Thu Feb 1 16:26:05 1996 Return-Path: <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28006; Thu, 1 Feb 96 16:26:04 -0800 Received: from coyote.ced.berkeley.edu by mx4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22499; Thu, 1 Feb 96 16:26:03 -0800 Received: from chabot.ced.berkeley.edu by coyote.ced.berkeley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19646; Thu, 1 Feb 96 16:30:47 PST Received: by chabot.ced.berkeley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22761; Thu, 1 Feb 96 16:30:02 PST Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:30:02 -0800 (PST) From: "Roddie L. Cole" <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: We did it ! In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.3.91l.960131174827.5839D-100000@saul7.u.washington.edu> Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960201162917.22702A-100000@chabot.ced.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Up and running. My Gambia-L data is accurate From rcole@ced.berkeley.edu Thu Feb 1 16:40:49 1996 Return-Path: <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28903; Thu, 1 Feb 96 16:40:49 -0800 Received: from coyote.ced.berkeley.edu by mx4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25216; Thu, 1 Feb 96 16:40:48 -0800 Received: from chabot.ced.berkeley.edu by coyote.ced.berkeley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19974; Thu, 1 Feb 96 16:45:50 PST Received: by chabot.ced.berkeley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23411; Thu, 1 Feb 96 16:45:05 PST Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:45:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Roddie L. Cole" <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list GAMBIA-L <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Greetings y'all!! In-Reply-To: <9602012311.AA25501@hope.soils.wisc.edu> Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960201164215.22702C-100000@chabot.ced.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Come on Katim. You were in Madison even before my daughter was born and she's almost 6. What kind of study leave is that? Or do you have contacts at the PMO that we should know about or --more importantly-- that Yaya Jammeh should know about. Oh well. As long as its UNPAID study leave. From rcole@ced.berkeley.edu Thu Feb 1 16:43:59 1996 Return-Path: <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29030; Thu, 1 Feb 96 16:43:59 -0800 Received: from coyote.ced.berkeley.edu by mx4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25838; Thu, 1 Feb 96 16:43:58 -0800 Received: from chabot.ced.berkeley.edu by coyote.ced.berkeley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20052; Thu, 1 Feb 96 16:48:59 PST Received: by chabot.ced.berkeley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23507; Thu, 1 Feb 96 16:48:14 PST Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:48:13 -0800 (PST) From: "Roddie L. Cole" <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list GAMBIA-L <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Intro. from L. Konteh In-Reply-To: <9602011505.AA24020@hpl.lut.ac.uk> Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960201164700.22702D-100000@chabot.ced.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Well Lang, any insights on the operations of GAMTEL you can appraise us about? A lot of stuff coming out in the investigation. From tloum@u.washington.edu Thu Feb 1 17:38:13 1996 Return-Path: <tloum@u.washington.edu> Received: from saul3.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01784; Thu, 1 Feb 96 17:38:13 -0800 Received: by saul3.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15285; Thu, 1 Feb 96 17:38:12 -0800 X-Sender: tloum@saul3.u.washington.edu Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:38:12 -0800 (PST) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list GAMBIA-L <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: cnet clip, Moscow, Tokyo most expensive for business travel In-Reply-To: <199602011728.MAA03882@parev.cc.columbia.edu> Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91l.960201171425.27049A-100000@saul3.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Abdourahman raised a valid question as to the relevance of the news article that he forwarded. Personally, I would say that although a tiny fraction of it was about the Gambia, I would say that it is relevant. Had there been no mention of the hotel in rates in Banjul, then I would have concluded that the article was outside the scope of this list. I have access to clari.world.africa and clari.world.africa.western and I am very selective with the articles that I used to forward - those that dealt specifically about The Gambia. Anyway, what is your opinion ? Thanks Tony
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Anthony W Loum tloum@u.washington.edu Supervisor, Business Administration Library 206-543-4360 voice 100 Balmer Hall 206-685-9392 fax University of Washington Box 353200 Seattle, Wa.98195-3200 ========================================================================= From gndow@auc.edu Thu Feb 1 20:15:39 1996 Return-Path: <gndow@auc.edu> Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11412; Thu, 1 Feb 96 20:15:38 -0800 Received: from king.auc.edu by mx5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10267; Thu, 1 Feb 96 20:15:32 -0800 Received: from hyena.auc.edu (hyena [144.125.230.24]) by auc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.9-auc.edu) with SMTP id XAA29806 for <gambia-l@u.washington.edu>; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:12:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:12:54 -0500 From: Gabriel Ndow <gndow@auc.edu> Message-Id: <199602020412.XAA29806@auc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: congratutlations!
Greetings folks,
I have been incommunicado for a while due to a heavy teaching load this semester, but fortunately I am beginning to have a grip on it. I see that our Jambars Katim and Tony have been successful in creating this cirtual Kabillo (is this the mandinka word for village?). Let me add my voice to the rest of the folks in congratulating both you guys for a job well done.
I am still reading mail that I received from a week ago (its up to 50!) and enjoying the discussion as it alternates from political matters to technical matters relating to gambia-l. Katim/Tony I do not know if it is too late, but if you are still looking for volunteers I am available and willing to do my share. In any case I would like a copy of the manuals.
While we are all hooked up perhaps it is time to bounce around the idea of also being hooked up via Internet Relay Chat (IRC). The advantage being that we would be able to gather the kafo (another mandinka word) together and communicate in real time! Of course the drawback is that at least two persons have to be on their terminals at the same time. Well if there is an interest this could be easily done.
LatJor Ndow. From binta@iuj.ac.jp Fri Feb 2 05:39:15 1996 Return-Path: <binta@iuj.ac.jp> Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28187; Fri, 2 Feb 96 05:39:14 -0800 Received: from mlsv.iuj.ac.jp by mx5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09118; Fri, 2 Feb 96 05:39:11 -0800 Received: from [2.48.232.202] (stpc022.iuj.ac.jp [202.232.48.86]) by mlsv.iuj.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9 mlsv[95/09/21]) with SMTP id WAA21025; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:38:31 +0900 Message-Id: <199602021338.WAA21025@mlsv.iuj.ac.jp> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:40:07 From: binta@iuj.ac.jp Subject: Re: Greetings y'all!! To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-2022-JP
Hi,
I think it is a good idea for us to know a little about one another. In that vein, I support Katim's suggestion that we have a standard form that eveyone can complete. On the issue of what news items to post, I think this can only be left to personal discretion. However, the more specific the information is on the Gambia, the better for us. That will facilitate analysis, discussions and (dis)agreements.
Thanks.
Lamin Drammeh, Japan. From L.Konteh-95@student.lut.ac.uk Fri Feb 2 06:48:52 1996 Return-Path: <L.Konteh-95@student.lut.ac.uk> Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00625; Fri, 2 Feb 96 06:48:52 -0800 Received: from bgate.lut.ac.uk by mx5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18338; Fri, 2 Feb 96 06:48:27 -0800 Received: by hpl.lut.ac.uk (15.11/SMI-4.1) id AA21277; Fri, 2 Feb 96 14:47:45 gmt Message-Id: <9602021447.AA21277@hpl.lut.ac.uk> From: L Konteh <L.Konteh-95@student.lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Intro. from L. Konteh To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Date: Fri, 2 Feb 96 14:47:44 GMT In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960201164700.22702D-100000@chabot.ced.berkeley.edu>; from "Roddie L. Cole" at Feb 1, 96 4:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0 (LUT)]
Hi Rodie,
It was all a diversionary tactic. You may not believe this, but most of the allegations made against some of the officials are not TRUE. Do not be fooled by the so-called commissions of enquiries. Most of the allegations made are not substantiated by real evidence. Sorry i cannot go into a great detail as i am still a serving officer in that company. I hope that answers your question. Lang
> Well Lang, any insights on the operations of GAMTEL you can appraise us > about? A lot of stuff coming out in the investigation. >
From momodou@inform-bbs.dk Fri Feb 2 08:02:19 1996 Return-Path: <momodou@inform-bbs.dk> Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05865; Fri, 2 Feb 96 08:02:18 -0800 Received: from uucp.DK.net by mx5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00958; Fri, 2 Feb 96 08:02:06 -0800 Received: from pingnet (uucp@localhost) by uucp.DK.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id RAA25404 for gambia-l@u.washington.edu; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:01:54 +0100 Received: from inform by ic1.ic.dk with UUCP id AA07510 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for gambia-l@u.washington.edu); Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:57:27 +0100 From: momodou@inform-bbs.dk (Momodou Camara) Reply-To: momodou@inform-bbs.dk To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Re: Greetings y'all!! Date: 02 Feb 1996 15:59:58 GMT Message-Id: <1104412671.426165@inform-bbs.dk> Organization: Inform.BBS X-Charset: Latin1 X-Char-Esc: 29
Hi Lamin, I do agree with you that we should know a little about one another as folks in the same kabillo but do we have to make an introduction of ourselves every time someone joins the group?
Thanks. Momodou Camara
gambia-l@u.washington.edu,Internet wrote at 23:40 on 02.02.96 to Momodou Camara about "Re: Greetings y'all!!": ----------------------------- >Hi, > >I think it is a good idea for us to know a little about one another. >In that vein, I support Katim's suggestion that we have a standard form >that eveyone can complete. On the issue of what news items to post, I >think this can only be left to personal discretion. However, the more >specific the information is on the Gambia, the better for us. That >will facilitate analysis, discussions and (dis)agreements. > >Thanks. > >Lamin Drammeh, Japan. > >--- Internet Message Header Follows --- >Received: from dkuug by ic1.ic.dk with UUCP id AA00160 > (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for momodou@inform-bbs.dk); Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:49:47 >+0100 >Received: from ns.dknet.dk (root@ns.dknet.dk [193.88.44.42]) by uucp.DK.net >(8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA17678 for <momodou@inform-bbs.dk>; Fri, 2 Feb >1996 14:45:57 +0100 >Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu >[140.142.56.1]) by ns.dknet.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA21417 for ><momodou@inform-bbs.dk>; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:45:50 +0100 >Received: from lists.u.washington.edu by lists2.u.washington.edu >(5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20471; >Fri, 2 Feb 96 05:39:25 -0800 >Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu >(5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28187; >Fri, 2 Feb 96 05:39:14 -0800 >Received: from mlsv.iuj.ac.jp by mx5.u.washington.edu >(5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09118; >Fri, 2 Feb 96 05:39:11 -0800 >Received: from [2.48.232.202] (stpc022.iuj.ac.jp [202.232.48.86]) by >mlsv.iuj.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9 mlsv[95/09/21]) with SMTP id WAA21025; Fri, >2 Feb 1996 22:38:31 +0900 >Message-Id: <199602021338.WAA21025@mlsv.iuj.ac.jp> >Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:40:07 >Reply-To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu >Sender: GAMBIA-L-owner@u.washington.edu >Precedence: bulk >From: binta@iuj.ac.jp >To: "Multiple recipients of list GAMBIA-L" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> >Subject: Re: Greetings y'all!! >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-2022-JP >X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN >X-Charset: MAC >X-Char-Esc: 29 > > -----------------------------
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 2 Feb 96 08:53:00 CST From: JDG.L.LANGE.LWCLK@CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US To: tloum@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: mail previously sent
Gambia-L:
Again I find myself concurring with Roddie but with a slight modification. Roddie, I am not sure what you mean when you say you do not advocate a united Africa as a political ideal. If I should understand you to mean that you are interested in political unity only because of its potential social & economic yields, I can agree. A political experiment with no social or economic relevance is a foolhardy and possibly, dangerous exercise. But here is where I am a little confused . . . Is there such a thing as a union (as a "political ideal") so barren as to be completely unyielding of anything of substance? To answer this question, one must first define "union as a political ideal." Should that task be accomplished and the question still answered in the affirmative, I would promptly dissent. I am not convinced that one can successfully define the term and exclude all substantial goals and desires of a polity.
The goal I presume we all agree is political, social and economic progress (life, liberty, and happiness). Social, political, and economic union is a means to social, political and economic stability. Stability in turn is an indispensable means to the primary end of social, political and economic progress (life, liberty, and happiness).
I am well aware that one can very well apply the means, and not attain the end. But to attain the end, one must first apply the means. The three prongs of the means--political, economic and social--are necessary to each other, at least in the African context. The simultaneous application of all three as the means ensures unity of planning and execution, which in turn are crucial to stability and hence the primary end of progress.
The prospect of social and economic dynamism (economic & social linkage) without the encumbrances of political union was and still is attractive. One may be swayed by the choice of "economic union" over out-right "political union", but this is a false choice. To succeed, it's an all or nothing deal.
If one accepts the contention that several of the ills of the African State are borne of the drive for separatism (social, economic and especially political), then one must also agree, singularity (especially political singularity) must have something to do with the cure.
Unity of action can be guaranteed only under circumstances of much greater centralization than exist today at the continental level- -African unity (as an ideal, as a very practical means to a much desired end).
And Katim: I do accept your challenge to . . . "wake me up." (and I laugh)
So long, Morro
(NOTE: THIS MAIL WAS PREVIOUSLY SENT DURING THE TRANSITION TO OUR CURRENT HOST. IF YOU HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED IT, SORRY FOR THE DUPLICATION--MORRO)
From at137@columbia.edu Fri Feb 2 09:25:04 1996 Return-Path: <at137@columbia.edu> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11297; Fri, 2 Feb 96 09:25:03 -0800 Received: from sliderule.cc.columbia.edu by mx4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27569; Fri, 2 Feb 96 09:25:00 -0800 Received: from muddhp23.cc.columbia.edu (muddhp23.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.34.33]) by sliderule.cc.columbia.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27760 for <gambia-l@u.washington.edu>; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:24:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:24:48 -0500 (EST) From: Abdourahman Touray <at137@columbia.edu> X-Sender: at137@muddhp23.cc.columbia.edu To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Affirmation Message-Id: <Pine.HPP.3.90.960202121253.6189A-100000@muddhp23.cc.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi Tony, I am indeed receiving the mail. The mistake you made was putting my address as "at37" instead of "at137". Thanks, -Abdou.
From at137@columbia.edu Fri Feb 2 10:33:42 1996 Return-Path: <sm@columbia.edu> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18683; Fri, 2 Feb 96 10:33:39 -0800 Received: from shalom.cc.columbia.edu by mx4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12853; Fri, 2 Feb 96 10:33:24 -0800 Received: (from sm@localhost) by shalom.cc.columbia.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA20461; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 13:33:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 13:33:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199602021833.NAA20461@shalom.cc.columbia.edu> From: at137@columbia.edu To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: cnet clip, Niger Coup Leader Makes Plan
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Path: news.columbia.edu!news2.clari.net!soprano.clari.net!e.news Supersedes: <Aniger-coupUR5ZO_6JU@clari.net> Distribution: clari.apo From: C-ap@clari.net (AP) Newsgroups: clari.world.africa.northwestern,clari.world.africa Subject: Niger Coup Leader Makes Plan Keywords: Africa Organization: Copyright 1996 by The Associated Press Message-ID: <Aniger-coupURR6K_6JU@clari.net> Lines: 46 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:50:20 PST Expires: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:50:20 PST ACategory: international Slugword: Niger-Coup Threadword: niger Priority: regular ANPA: Wc: 440/0; Id: V0980; Src: ap; Sel: -----; Adate: 01-30-N.A; Ver: 2/1; V: 0440 Approved: e.news@clari.net Codes: APO-1105 Xref: news.columbia.edu clari.world.africa.northwestern:604 clari.world.africa:24659
NIAMEY, Niger (AP) -- Niger's new military ruler said a national council would begin work Wednesday on a plan to return the country to civilian rule. The decree, read Tuesday on state-run radio, was the strongest signal yet that Col. Barre Mainassara Ibrahim, who led a weekend coup, was not planning to leave the military in power indefinitely. A national forum of 150 people -- including former parliamentarians, economists, university professors, and traditional chiefs -- will begin work on the transition to democracy Wednesday, he said. A military plane was dispatched to bring panelists in from rural areas, radio reported. No deadline was set for the forum to finish its work, which will involve drafting a constitution to replace the one Mainassara suspended and drawing up plans for elections. The desert nation's first democratically elected president was ousted Saturday in a violent coup, but by Tuesday, life appeared to be returning to normal. The international airport reopened, and the military was barely visible in the streets except for troops stationed at the presidential palace and government buildings. While Mainassara has said he soon will name a civilian prime minister, he plans to keep several areas of the country under tight military rule. They include the northwest region of Agadez and the eastern region of Diffa, where separatist Tuareg rebels are active. Mainassara said he staged the coup to end the political stalemate between President Mahamane Ousmane and opposition parties in the National Assembly. For more than a year, Ousmane had been unable to form a government because opponents refused to work with him. At least six people died in the gun battles that broke out as soldiers stormed Ousmane's palace. Ousmane and his prime minister were under house arrest, and Mainassara's plans for them were not clear. Mainassara has banned political parties and declared himself head of his newly created National Salvation Council. The United States and France, Niger's former colonial power, condemned the coup and suspended aid. The United Nations secretary-general, Boutros Boutros-Ghali, also denounced the takeover. The 15-member European Union on Tuesday suspended all but humanitarian aid and demanded that members of the former government be released from detention, warning that Mainassara's regime will be held responsible for their safety. Since November 1993, Nigeria, Gambia, and Sierra Leone also have had military coups. None has returned to civilian rule. -- This is the NEW RELEASE of the ClariNet e.News! If you notice any problems with the new edition, please mail us at editor@clari.net and let us know. Thanks! More information can be found on our web site at http://www.clari.net/ or in clari.net.announce. From msjaiteh@mtu.edu Fri Feb 2 13:30:03 1996 Return-Path: <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05351; Fri, 2 Feb 96 13:30:02 -0800 Received: from opus.mtu.edu by mx5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13425; Fri, 2 Feb 96 13:29:59 -0800 Received: from forest1.ffr.mtu.edu (forest1.ffr.mtu.edu [141.219.149.195]) by opus.mtu.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id QAA27992; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:29:57 -0500 Received: from forest2.ffr.mtu.edu (forest2.ffr.mtu.edu [141.219.149.196]) by forest1.ffr.mtu.edu (8.6.10/MTU-R1.8) with ESMTP id QAA05057; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:28:38 -0500 From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> Received: (from msjaiteh@localhost) by forest2.ffr.mtu.edu (8.6.10/MTU-C1.5) id QAA05381; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:29:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199602022129.QAA05381@forest2.ffr.mtu.edu> Subject: Re: Affirmation To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:29:20 -0500 (EST) Cc: gambia-l@u.washington.edu, washington.edu@mtu.edu In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.90.960202121253.6189A-100000@muddhp23.cc.columbia.edu> from "Abdourahman Touray" at Feb 2, 96 12:24:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 361
These Kacki boys continue to amaze with their flimsy excuses. If the Officer is really intent to serve Niger he should give up the gun and the uniforn and contest in the electoral process. Sending chartered planes across the country to pick a few folks is not only a waste of the tax payers valuable cfa but another bag of tricks. My good luck to them all. From touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu Fri Feb 2 15:02:43 1996 Return-Path: <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15632; Fri, 2 Feb 96 15:02:40 -0800 Received: from hope.soils.wisc.edu by mx4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06989; Fri, 2 Feb 96 15:02:39 -0800 Received: by hope.soils.wisc.edu; id AA26447; 4.1/42; Fri, 2 Feb 96 17:06:50 CST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 96 17:06:50 CST From: Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> Message-Id: <9602022306.AA26447@hope.soils.wisc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: List configuration: Phase 1
Hi folks,
i'm writing to say that i've added two list configuration options to our list. the first is the option to have everyone receive a copy of their contributions. i notice Tony has already written to his guys to do that but i went ahead and did it, just in case someone sends something overy the weekend. for those that want to get copies of what they sent, they can write to the list and ask. hopefully one of us still's got it, and can send it back. the other option is that our list is archived every Sunday, and so in the next day or 2, we should be able to retrieve a file with everything that was sent out by the list.
the second option was to add a comment line to header of mail from the list. you'll notice the previous pieces would say something like 'To multiple recipients of Gambia-L' followed by our address. this line now should read: 'GAMBIA-L: The Gambia, and Related Issues Mailing List'. i chose this comment because 'The Gambia' makes it open to all, and the 'related' business is left to the subscribers to interpret.
i've also seen talk about whether we'll *all* have to introduce ourselveseach time we get a new member. no. this will only apply to Roddie Cole (just kidding!). the reason for this is that when we get everything up and running, we'll have the intros on file (archived) and new subscribers and old ones will be given intructions on how to retrieve files, and individual introductions. we should hopefully be able to maintain current intro files, as long as the affect persons submitted updates to the archive managers.
well, that's about all for now. like i said, i'll be working more on the configuration and fine-tuning part and hopefully get everyone going here.
oh, i think Latjorr's idea is a great one, the one about using Internet Relay Chat, that is. the only problem though is the syncrhonization thing he mentioned, plus the fact that you need client software installed (and probably very similar or compatible software packages). if there are some who would like to do it, i'd say more power to you. hell, it'd save you a lot of phone bills, and also increase your typing speed!!
well, that's about all for now. really.
Katim From rcole@ced.berkeley.edu Fri Feb 2 17:25:25 1996 Return-Path: <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26800; Fri, 2 Feb 96 17:25:24 -0800 Received: from coyote.ced.berkeley.edu by mx4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01529; Fri, 2 Feb 96 17:25:21 -0800 Received: from chabot.ced.berkeley.edu by coyote.ced.berkeley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08462; Fri, 2 Feb 96 16:43:50 PST Received: by chabot.ced.berkeley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25314; Fri, 2 Feb 96 16:42:38 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:42:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Roddie L. Cole" <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list GAMBIA-L <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.3.91l.960202084437.12953C-100000@saul2.u.washington.edu> Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960202163056.25042A-100000@chabot.ced.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Should we restrict introductions to 10 lines or less? I forward the following structure for your comments: 1. NAME, VILLAGE/TOWN OF ORIGIN, HIGH SCHOOL, ETC.: 2 Lines 2. ACADEMIC, PROFESSIONAL, and OTHER RELEVANT BACKGROUND INFO.: 2 lines 3. CURRENT ACTIVITIES, INTERESTS, EMPLOYMENT, ETC.: 2 lines 4. SHORT PERSONAL (PREFERABLY GAMBIA-RELEVANT) STATEMENT: 4 lines TOTAL: 10 LINES Two possible crisis areas: 1. for the exceptionally qualified (Like Sammy Oliver) 2 lines may prove insufficient for a complete listing of degrees -- they'll just have to do some serious editing; 2. Graduates of St. Augustines High School should not hesitate to admit to this: we realize not everyone can get into GHS (.Whoops .. Sorry ..). From binta@iuj.ac.jp Fri Feb 2 21:35:44 1996 Return-Path: <binta@iuj.ac.jp> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05814; Fri, 2 Feb 96 21:35:43 -0800 Received: from mlsv.iuj.ac.jp by mx4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28215; Fri, 2 Feb 96 21:35:15 -0800 Received: from [2.48.232.202] (stpc010.iuj.ac.jp [202.232.48.74]) by mlsv.iuj.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9 mlsv[95/09/21]) with SMTP id OAA24474; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:34:22 +0900 Message-Id: <199602030534.OAA24474@mlsv.iuj.ac.jp> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:34:12 From: binta@iuj.ac.jp Subject: Re: INTRODUCTIONS To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-2022-JP
Hi,
I agree in toto with Roddie's format for our intros . Let us keep it short and precise. As well, to avoid intros any time a new member signs up, we should create an archive that interested persons can easily access as was suggested by one of us.
GAMTEL, African Unity .....etc., I will comment on later.
By the way, is membership to Gambia-L restricted to Gambians? Perhaps it may be interesting to read the views on non-Gambians on issues about the Gambia. With that we may get an outsider's about us.
Lamin. From rcole@ced.berkeley.edu Sat Feb 3 12:37:48 1996 Return-Path: <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu by lists.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01566; Sat, 3 Feb 96 12:37:48 -0800 Received: from coyote.ced.berkeley.edu by mx4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29162; Sat, 3 Feb 96 12:37:47 -0800 Received: from chabot.ced.berkeley.edu by coyote.ced.berkeley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14245; Sat, 3 Feb 96 12:43:16 PST Received: by chabot.ced.berkeley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06987; Sat, 3 Feb 96 12:42:04 PST Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 12:42:03 -0800 (PST) From: "Roddie L. Cole" <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list GAMBIA-L <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: <199602030534.OAA24474@mlsv.iuj.ac.jp> Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960203124007.6947A-100000@chabot.ced.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lamin: Methinks the qualifying factor is "interest in Gambian issues" as
opposed to nationality, origin, ethnicity, color, and so forth.
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