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Moe
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 Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 01:06:13
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Prince, sister O is right!! they are in some serious crap if you ask me. Of course if of interest to the state most of these fools barely knowing their bearings can be extradited and charged or classified as WANTED MEN............................................................Peace quote:
Originally posted by Prince
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Thou shall not Kill my ass, Thou shall kill if necessary brother man.
Moe, I am a staunch advocate of capital punishment but I am not for using it as liberally as you'd like. Come on, even quote:
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these guys are guilty of what they are accused of, it is a mere conspiracy, they never actually carried out anything. Nobody was denied life, property, or liberty as a result of their actions.
Please stop taking whatever is influencing you into making these outrageous pronouncements !
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Senegambia
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Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 01:15:10
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Turk,
Your lack of faith in the opposition, esp. the UDP, is something I accept and respect. That should not in anyway make you insensitive to their plight in the country. Because after all they are citizens and the nation's shareholders. What would make you think that they will venture into corrupt practices when they take over? Have you ever questioned your idol's (Jammeh) accountability with regards to his mass wealth? You are way too partisan Turk, really. Yes we need positive change in the Gambia, a change that will be conducive to the development of democratic values, the rule of law and the protection of the citizenry as a whole, with or without Jammeh, because such change is what we Gambians truly deserve. Now this topic is in respect of the recent court rulings (death penalties) so I wouldnt want to divert the readers' attentions from that.
Regarding our different perspectives on issues, atleast we agree to disagree. And sorry for the late reply.
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Senegambia
Not really. Jammeh is product of Gambian society. I believe there are lots of issues in Gambia and most issues are due to realities of Gambia. And one could blame Gambians in general. Have you heard the expression, 'People get the government they deserve'? I am not someone who dreams that when Jammeh is gone, everything will be OK. If he is gone, I am not sure who ever replaces him will do any better. Sorry, you and I have totally different perspective on issues about Gambia and root cause of the issues. It is always to easy to point someone else for failure. What about you? I tell you, if today UDP replace the Government, the second day they will try exploring how to corrupt. The members of UDP not any different from members of ruling party. They are from the same village, street, they are even relatives. Do you think member of UDP have higher moral values and ethics from the members of ruling party. Member of ruling party did not come from Mars. Neither are you.
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Dembish
Gambia
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Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 01:21:11
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Here we are again, Aprc pros hypocritically forgetting that if not by Coup Jammeh himself will NEVER EVER rule The Gambia.
But like i said ealier, can not careless what happen to these guys,if Jammeh thinks its in his best interest to kill them, let it be so,if I have my ways they will NOT be killed, but Guys we should not forget that these guys are the very pillers of the Dictatorship that has engulfed our dear motherland.They refused to stay in the barrack like other good solders do in other parts of the world.They use the military resources to campaign for Dictator jammeh,harassing inocent civilians during election campaign.We have seen what happen in 1996 election at westfield, when the solders maltreated civilians and force young girls to undresses the UDP Tshirt in public and left them have naked just for supporting the opposition party.So guys this is another price to pay for cowardly dinning with a Dictator. |
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 01:27:19
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Okay prince I will stop monkey see monkey do business. Okay this will be a quick lesson , Lets say 1+1=2, Anyone found guilty of a coup will be sentenced to death, whether they succeeded or not is not the issue at hand. The question goes back to did they try to commit a coup? if the answer is yes am assuming you already know that it is justifiable to have them shot not even hung.They are military personnel and know exactly what they swore to uphold and what the punishment for mutiny is if you fail. in reference to the Jammeh's coup that was successful Karamba, due to every Gambians effort and collaboration which I will get into later. They were granted immunity or else their fate would have been the same. If Jammeh out of the fact that they share something in common such as a coup plot, decides that they deserve to be forgiven thats up to him but the fact remains, they were not successful to an extent that the law would make provisions assuring their safety and immunity, Now they are up for grabs. According to the law they should be shot..........................................................Peace quote:
Originally posted by Prince
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Thou shall not Kill my ass, Thou shall kill if necessary brother man.
Moe, I am a staunch advocate of capital punishment but I am not for using it as liberally as you'd like. Come on, even quote:
IF
these guys are guilty of what they are accused of, it is a mere conspiracy, they never actually carried out anything. Nobody was denied life, property, or liberty as a result of their actions.
Please stop taking whatever is influencing you into making these outrageous pronouncements!
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
Edited by - Moe on 17 Jul 2010 01:30:34 |
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 01:34:34
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C'mon now Prince you showing signs of hatred, whats sourff about what Omega elaborated on. You have to explain your self bro...............................................Peace quote:
Originally posted by Prince
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It seems that you Guys are in serious ****.
What say you?
Who are you guys? It is very obvious that you're ethically challenged and your pettiness is becoming too sourff around here.
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 01:42:10
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Dembish don't get your eyes off the Ball. Try separating Jammeh from the State for a second. You are one confused dude, just because they were the so called pillars ,tell me why you are willing to kill them all of a sudden because they were involved. Then again most of ya'll don't have a clue about democracy and the rule of law. Ya'll bunch of idealist,survivalist and just plain ignorant about procedure. This is why it's scary to have any Gambian take over the affairs of the state at this point , the air spells and smells like incompetent foul stench. What it takes to be a garden master is rare in Gambians. Jammeh is it...................................................Peace quote:
Originally posted by Dembish
Here we are again, Aprc pros hypocritically forgetting that if not by Coup Jammeh himself will NEVER EVER rule The Gambia.
But like i said ealier, can not careless what happen to these guys,if Jammeh thinks its in his best interest to kill them, let it be so,if I have my ways they will NOT be killed, but Guys we should not forget that these guys are the very pillers of the Dictatorship that has engulfed our dear motherland.They refused to stay in the barrack like other good solders do in other parts of the world.They use the military resources to campaign for Dictator jammeh,harassing inocent civilians during election campaign.We have seen what happen in 1996 election at westfield, when the solders maltreated civilians and force young girls to undresses the UDP Tshirt in public and left them have naked just for supporting the opposition party.So guys this is another price to pay for cowardly dinning with a Dictator.
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Dembish
Gambia
284 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 02:34:48
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Moe can't you read english or am I writing in spanish?I have clearly stated that I do not want them killed and you trying to do what you are best at i.e. twisting stories.
Shame on you for not reflecting that we are faced with a terrible Dictator thanks to Coup.you jellyfish...............hahahaaaaaaa,u see like I said ealier,I cannot careless when it comes to this case WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.TAKE IT FROM ME MOE if you dare come home to join Jammeh, YOU Will be next. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 02:38:34
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Dembish July 22nd is celebrated every year so how can the Coup be forgotten. Since then Gambia's had three elections in 1997, 2001 and 2006 so, bro are you suffering with amnesia? Let's not get it twisted you Guys spin so much that you get so tied up into knots not being able to see the truth from all the lies you keep on spinning. Each time an attempted coup fails you walk on egg shells, and start whimpering after spending so, much time online instigating BS to all and saundry who will listen. Talking about "crying wolf" what do you mean about about hypocrisy! Where is Freedom Newspaper now and its famous writers. It was only last week that Karamba posted on Essa Sey's comments down with tyranny. What a bunch of Jokers Sey was the biggest advocate of July 22 he was the APRC's Ambassdor to France, Taiwan and Washington DC. Travelling around the world at Gambian Tax Payers expense what did he actually achieve for Gambia? The trouble with Mr Sey was he thought he had a job for life but was unable to do the job effectively that's why he was fired.
His dellusion is a fermentation of sour grapes, whichis haram amongst practicing Muslims so metaphotically speaking when cunning and deceptive natured foxes acted out in different pseudyms simultaneously over the years on certain individuals perceives themself to be far too clever for their own good. It will be very interesting Moe to see how these Guys squam their way out this sewer. Very interesting indeed about Ethically challenged Prince I suggest you check your own ethics for greater consistency.
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 03:13:46
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Sister Omega "Bokarr hebb baney Permit" He is still pretending that he is fromn Kuntaur but something tells me "Kuntaur" was after leaving Guinea. There is not a single Gambian that would reduce themselves to the status of peasant like former Ambassador by mistake Bokarr Sey. He is incompetent , Unprofessional and a dictator if given a chance. Just observe and you will notice all the characteristics.....................................Peacequote:
Originally posted by Sister Omega
Dembish July 22nd is celebrated every year so how can the Coup be forgotten. Since then Gambia's had three elections in 1997, 2001 and 2006 so, bro are you suffering with amnesia? Let's not get it twisted you Guys spin so much that you get so tied up into knots not being able to see the truth from all the lies you keep on spinning. Each time an attempted coup fails you walk on egg shells, and start whimpering after spending so, much time online instigating BS to all and saundry who will listen. Talking about "crying wolf" what do you mean about about hypocrisy! Where is Freedom Newspaper now and its famous writers. It was only last week that Karamba posted on Essa Sey's comments down with tyranny. What a bunch of Jokers Sey was the biggest advocate of July 22 he was the APRC's Ambassdor to France, Taiwan and Washington DC. Travelling around the world at Gambian Tax Payers expense what did he actually achieve for Gambia? The trouble with Mr Sey was he thought he had a job for life but was unable to do the job effectively that's why he was fired.
His dellusion is a fermentation of sour grapes, whichis haram amongst practicing Muslims so metaphotically speaking when cunning and deceptive natured foxes acted out in different pseudyms simultaneously over the years on certain individuals perceives themself to be far too clever for their own good. It will be very interesting Moe to see how these Guys squam their way out this sewer. Very interesting indeed about Ethically challenged Prince I suggest you check your own ethics for greater consistency.
Peace
Sister Omega
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 03:36:51
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Originally posted by Senegambia
Turk,
Your lack of faith in the opposition, esp. the UDP, is something I accept and respect. That should not in anyway make you insensitive to their plight in the country. Because after all they are citizens and the nation's shareholders. What would make you think that they will venture into corrupt practices when they take over? Have you ever questioned your idol's (Jammeh) accountability with regards to his mass wealth? You are way too partisan Turk, really. Yes we need positive change in the Gambia, a change that will be conducive to the development of democratic values, the rule of law and the protection of the citizenry as a whole, with or without Jammeh, because such change is what we Gambians truly deserve. Now this topic is in respect of the recent court rulings (death penalties) so I wouldnt want to divert the readers' attentions from that.
Regarding our different perspectives on issues, atleast we agree to disagree. And sorry for the late reply.
Like I said. We have completely different perspective on politics. My priority is development, stability and security. While I condemn death penalty not only in Gambia, anywhere in the world, I think those who attempt to take over government, especially with violence need to be punished. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Senegambia
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Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 09:55:00
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You did not answer my questions.....but never mind.
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Originally posted by turk
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Originally posted by Senegambia
Like I said. We have completely different perspective on politics. My priority is development, stability and security. While I condemn death penalty not only in Gambia, anywhere in the world, I think those who attempt to take over government, especially with violence need to be punished.
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 12:41:47
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| You said you don't wanna divert reader's attention. Open another topic on corruption than we discuss. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 12:52:55
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I am following this topic which for once is being treated seriously with very few entrenched views being forced to be read, this topic is a discussion,me post ? no thanks,The Gambians are discussing sensibly,don't want a toubab poking his nose in on this topic. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 13:23:50
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Bread man I suppose it depends on whether you agree with the Death penalty or not. As Gambia has the Death Penalty on its statute books it can still be used. The Law is the Law it doesn't have emotions. The reality is cold in its execution and what I think is unusual about this case that it wan't heard in a Military Court. I can understand that you're anti Capital Punishment period and do respect your views. However it doesn't seem to be on Gambian list of priorities under Jawara or Jammeh Administrations to abolish the Death Penality. Peace
Sister Omega
There you go again Sister Omega. Ex president Jawara actually abolished the death penalty in the 1980s. It was only reinstated by president jammeh through a military decree which was later incoporated into the constitution and ratified by parliament.
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Dembish
Gambia
284 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2010 : 14:26:24
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Sister I want you to understand it this way, celebration of any military Coup wheater successful or otherwise is it self immoral and put a wrong massage across the military worldwide that military coup is alright.This is the problem Africa in general is faced with.Thanks to people like sister O and Moe military coup will never be sweep out of africa.
besides I want you lot (APRC MONKS) to know that there is NO difference between an attempted coup and a successful coup.They' re both illegal and the result of both is sadly what the Gambia is faced with today.
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Dembish July 22nd is celebrated every year so how can the Coup be forgotten. Since then Gambia's had three elections in 1997, 2001 and 2006 so, bro are you suffering with amnesia? Let's not get it twisted you Guys spin so much that you get so tied up into knots not being able to see the truth from all the lies you keep on spinning. Each time an attempted coup fails you walk on egg shells, and start whimpering after spending so, much time online instigating BS to all and saundry who will listen. Talking about "crying wolf" what do you mean about about hypocrisy! Where is Freedom Newspaper now and its famous writers. It was only last week that Karamba posted on Essa Sey's comments down with tyranny. What a bunch of Jokers Sey was the biggest advocate of July 22 he was the APRC's Ambassdor to France, Taiwan and Washington DC. Travelling around the world at Gambian Tax Payers expense what did he actually achieve for Gambia? The trouble with Mr Sey was he thought he had a job for life but was unable to do the job effectively that's why he was fired.
His dellusion is a fermentation of sour grapes, whichis haram amongst practicing Muslims so metaphotically speaking when cunning and deceptive natured foxes acted out in different pseudyms simultaneously over the years on certain individuals perceives themself to be far too clever for their own good. It will be very interesting Moe to see how these Guys squam their way out this sewer. Very interesting indeed about Ethically challenged Prince I suggest you check your own ethics for greater consistency.
Peace
Sister Omega
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