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toubab1020



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Posted - 13 Jul 2010 :  12:58:43  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
64 killed in Uganda terror blasts
Monday, July 12 06:47 am

Simultaneous bombings bearing the hallmarks of international terrorists ripped through crowds watching the World Cup final in Uganda's capital, killing 64 people.
The deadliest attack occurred at a rugby club in Kampala on Sunday night as people watched the game between Spain and Holland on a large-screen TV outdoors.

The second blast took place at an Ethiopian restaurant.

Kampala's police chief said he believed Somalia's most feared militant group, al-Shabab, could be responsible for the attack. Al-Shabab is known to have links with al Qaida, and counts militant veterans from the Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan conflicts among its ranks.

Body parts found at the rugby club suggested a suicide bomber may have been to blame, a reporter at the scene said.

Among the victims of the attack, one American was killed and several were wounded. At least three Americans - part of a church group from Pennsylvania - were injured at the restaurant. One was Kris Sledge, 18, of Selinsgrove, Pennsylvania.

"I remember blacking out, hearing people screaming and running," Mr Sledge said from the hospital, where his right leg was bandaged and he had burns on his face. "I love the place here but I'm wondering why this happened and who did this. At this point we're just glad to be alive."

US secretary of state Hillary Clinton "strongly condemned" the explosions and vowed the United States will work with the Ugandan government "to bring the perpetrators of this crime to justice."

Police chief Kale Kaihura originally said at least 30 people had been killed, though the toll could be higher. Later, a senior police officer at the scene said that 64 people had been killed - 49 from the rugby club and 15 at the Ethiopian restaurant.

Mr Kaihura said he suspected al-Shabab, that country's most hardline militant group. Its fighters, including two recruited from the Somali communities in the US, have carried out multiple suicide bombings in Somalia. If so it would be the first time the group has carried out attacks outside of Somalia.

Printed from http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100712/tuk-64-killed-in-uganda-terror-blasts-6323e80.html

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 13 Jul 2010 13:02:01

sab



United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Jul 2010 :  20:14:50  Show Profile Send sab a Private Message


Toubab do you view the Aljazeera UK news?

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2010/07/2010711212520826984.html


The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary)
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toubab1020



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Posted - 13 Jul 2010 :  21:56:32  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Sab, Thanks for the link.The men and sometimes women who perform these murders are so brainwashed that they will do anything they are told to do by the very evil men who lead them. !

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk



USA
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Posted - 15 Jul 2010 :  16:39:15  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Murderer, terrorist, rebel, freedom fighter are confusing terms usually.

murder or terrorist act


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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toubab1020



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Posted - 15 Jul 2010 :  17:37:41  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message

Turk. I read what you have written,although you invite discussion.Killing innocent people is wrong,no excuses,unless it was a genuine accident with no intent wahtever, which is not covered in the collection of "confusing terms".I know you enjoy and welcome discussion on all possible subjects Killing innocent people with intent is wrong whoever or whatever you are.End of story.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk



USA
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Posted - 15 Jul 2010 :  19:30:56  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Touby

That is obviously wrong. I am not discussing killing if some one is wrong or right. But you are missing the point. Or you don't get it. There are significant difference when you use the different terms.

There is significant difference when you kill someone during robbery or when you killed some one because of you are racist, or when you kill some one because of your ideology. Militants, freedom fighter, terrorist, islamic terrorists, christian terrorist, nationalists, rebels have different meanings.

For example, if you called someone 'rebel' or 'freedom fighter' while they kill, but some other may be called 'terrorist' while they can be called 'freedom fighter'. Are Afghans rebels or terrorists? For example, why are palestinian called islamic terrorist, while they are nationalist who want their independents and land, they could have been called freedom fighters. Are the militia? For example, the link I provided call the jewish rabbi 'murderer'. But he had a 'religious' and 'political' motivation to kill civilian, he or she could have been called 'terrorist'. But he was not called terrorist. Timothy who bombed the Oklahama could have been called terrorist. For example, for IRA, I never hear the term 'Catholic Terrorist' even thought they could have been qualified as they want the catholic irish be independent from protestant irish which is Northern Ireland.


Let me introduce you a man called Peter Ustinov and his quote: "Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is the terrorism of the rich."

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 15 Jul 2010 19:36:07
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toubab1020



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Posted - 15 Jul 2010 :  19:37:53  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Turk, I understand what you want to discuss,I refer you to my previous posting
"Killing innocent people with intent is wrong whoever or whatever you are.End of story."
Therefore discussion with me is not an option on this topic,others may like to discuss with you but not me.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk



USA
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Posted - 15 Jul 2010 :  21:29:52  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
So if you want no discussion, why bother open a topic? I condemn those who killed innocent people in Uganda. I guess that is the scope of your topic.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 15 Jul 2010 22:00:07
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toubab1020



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Posted - 15 Jul 2010 :  22:23:03  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
That's exactly the scope of my topic,Thanks.

quote:
Originally posted by turk

So if you want no discussion, why bother open a topic? I condemn those who killed innocent people in Uganda. I guess that is the scope of your topic.


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kayjatta



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Posted - 16 Jul 2010 :  11:41:27  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by turk

...I condemn those who killed innocent people in Uganda. I guess that is the scope of your topic.



Exactly Turk!!! Afterall there is nothing confusing about that, huh?

Edited by - kayjatta on 16 Jul 2010 11:43:03
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turk



USA
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Posted - 16 Jul 2010 :  13:06:30  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
I am confused because usually people are selective what to condemn i.e. I am sure, the original author condemned a murder or terrorist act of 9 'civilian' in the international waters by a rogue state.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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