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BornAfrican
United Kingdom
119 Posts |
 Posted - 22 Dec 2005 : 21:40:58
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I have never trusted Ousainou Darboe. That man is a traitor. He is a proper Judas. All the little push and pulls within NADD pushes our dreams further into the horizon. Ousainou knows he's got the largest political party within NADD so he always want to play his cards differently. With his **** i n ugly head, i swear, if that man becomes the president of the Gambia, he will be worse than Yaya Jammeh. His heart is filled with ill feelings and would want to settle scores with all his old "enemies". Such leaders we don't need. People, believe me, i am the least optmistic person out here about the Gambia's socio-economic future. There are so many bad and corrupted people out there and Ousainou Darboe is one of them. **** i n *****.
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Nyancho
Switzerland
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Posted - 22 Dec 2005 : 23:26:56
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| My brother,the only political heavyweight in the country today,is NADD.Should Darbo decide to call it quits,he probably may stand there alone.Gambians are more resolved than ever before to see the back tyranny and abuse of office by the APRC government,if Darbo is fooled to believe he still command strong support opposition support,he is been led to his disgrace.NADD was not conceive out of nothing,but with lot of planning and sacrifice by all ligitimate oppositions and friends of democratic principles.What Darbo did for the political life of the country particularly after the coup,should not be ignored but the situation today demands a different approach. |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 23 Dec 2005 : 01:00:41
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What we cannot afford to have at this hour is any division of any sort. I do not believe in loosing Darboe , Hamat or any of them.
I have great respect for Darboe, being the learned person he is, like written down by AMNA, which was the exact autobiography (Composed by cherno Bah) i read about him before the crowd when he came to Minnosta to address Gambians.
We certainly know that the composition of the UDP was NCP (as the case for Kemeseng Jammeh), PPP (as the case for OJ and his wide teamsters), NDAM (as the case for Juwara and his real combatants), and the many sympathisers, who all are galvanized to be NADD sympathisers.
For the records now, and for ever, i have enormous respect for each and everyone of these fellows. My only problem is some sentiments, based on dividing Gambians cannot be tolerated from any one. These are problems that jammeh is committing, and we should be committed to burrying them once and for ever.
Needless to say, i had a close door interview with Darboe, and i know we had a long talk (off records), some of which is private about his life, and that of his associates, and that does not have room in any forum. It is my love for Darboe, that i had him make clarifications over, what his enermies and close associates are saying about him.
One should not be fooled (as African mentioned above)-either by majority composition, tribal or any of that. I think Darboe needs counselling, and certainly i can name upto 10 prominent Gambians engaging these fellows directly on the ground. We know Hassan Musa, being the respected elder he is, is one such, whose age is gone, and yet still sacrifice his life to sideline the whole struggle.
Gambians should not give Darboe, Hamat or any of them a chance to break away. The Gambia is ours. Everyone's positive opinion counts.
If we give Jammeh one more time to win elections, i swear by whatever one believes in, he will finish the rest of his uncompleted job, of sinking the Gambia to the gutters, and taking many to jail and others to the under world.
Now we get a plan. Lets engage the two of them. It's not only Darboe, and Hamat looks more selfish and name seeking than even Darboe. They should be hammered, and i mean now. Hamat should have beeen wise enough to utilise the sympathy Gambians have for him over his loss, and recent arrestation. But no- he wants a name, where to- i don't know.
One thing that i will let all Gambians know, Darboe started the game- when he visited Atlanta, in a close door meeting with STGDP officials, he accused them of favouring individuals, and he was questioned to explain, and he understood the stance of neutrality of STGDP. He left at a time, when his traits of withdrawal were being jubilated at kanilai statehouse by jammeh and his cohorts.
I confirmed from reliable sources, the story reported by Ibrima Jaw Manneh about Darboe or the UDP threatening to back out, was true and done on purpose by an active and committed NADD executive. He did it with the sole intention, to have Darboe withdraw from what he intended, and it worked then, and it will work this time too.
Darboe, and his supporters suffered more than any other political party in the history of the Gambia. We know Darboe's murder trial is still dragging, with the kind of kangaroo courting in our country in the hands of Nigerian judges helping jammeh finish us. That's number one reason to force darboe to unite.
When Haliaf, OJ and Hamat were arrested recently, and STGDP officials had all of the others (darboe, Waa, Sidia etc...) on a conference call, for athem to take to the streets. Darboe's coward comments were "if they jail all of us, who will be a flagbearer.", and that he was not going be responsible for the march. In that case, if he have any fear, i cannot blame him, but if he wants to back out, we will not let him.
Secondary to that, Darboe was the trusted leader by many respected Gambians for two consecutive terms, and by nature he didn't win. That was more or less the coalition, and he should be careful in forcing himself to be there.
And Darboe and Hamat, openly threatened the coalition- by refusing to see the coalition as a political party. And what means, they will all contest as individuals (individual party tickets), and then become one in the run up. (if any.) The divided votes will go to Jammeh.
If any threatens the union, then as afar as i am concerned, the individual is far from being the one to be looked onto in uniting Gambians come tomorrow.
To be continued.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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BornAfrican
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Dec 2005 : 01:25:42
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Dalton,
i have been following your postings for a long time. i definately have lots of respect and admiration for you. you have contributed positively to the bantaba all along, yet, i am not prepared to agree with you on Ousainou Darboe's issue. These people know the kind of problem the Gambia is in. They know that breaking up will just hammer the nail into the Gambia's coffin. We heard about when at particular moment during the second war war, brithish soldiers and german soldiers came out of their trenches to play football, then went back to their trenches to slaughter one another after the game. i can't remember what particular event it was about during the war but i remember reading about the footie. i know the whole thing doesn't make sense; being friends one minute then going back to become enemies the next minute.
but the morale of my story is that during this this "brief" moment of NADD, they know (the leaders) know that they can achieve something that none of their individuall parties could achieve. Why give Gambians hope just to **** it all up at the dying moment. these kinda things **** me up. but this is the history of the black people; betrayal. from our founding fathers to the present day, we always betray one another. |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 23 Dec 2005 : 02:16:33
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African,
I know your lines are positive always. I have equal regards for your brilliant thoughts and ideas-for a long time.
I agree with our last minute betrayal idealogy, and my piece was meant to support.authenticate your writing. They know very well, more than those of us outside.
Monkeys surrounnded by the hunter and his dogs, and they surround themselves in a circle that they cannot escape an inch. That's where nadd is trapped. Nadd is surrounded by Jammeh, and they have their own issues.
Thanks African, and long live you !
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Dec 2005 : 23:50:29
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What other alternatives do you have?
The most important thing in The Gambia is to resolve differences of opinion peacefully and democractically.
People being arrested and held without trial is very undemocratic.
How much further do things need to go before we see militant action on the streets against the government?
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Dalton1
3485 Posts |
Posted - 24 Dec 2005 : 01:45:24
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It looks like it is getting under control. Word is that they have a meeting this saturday with Hassan Musa, who is chairing the meetings. Also there will be conference call mounted by STGDP officials this saturday (hopefully if it doesn't fail) to talk with the key members of each party. That's a good move.
We expect the guidance of common sense from where ever to rain on the brains of these fellows.
This is the time, we will know who truly is patriotic, to sacrifice their first "want" to the victory of the whole nation.
Follwoing constant monitor, all Gambians at home and abroad-should sharpen their pens, buy phonecards etc.. and be ready to mount messages once they want to screw up.
If any cannot listen to us (Gambians), then that proves we don't need him/her.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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alieo baba norho
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Posted - 24 Dec 2005 : 15:15:28
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Hello peoples,
I do notknow who is this or that.Gambia need a very strong Govement and that is what this present govement is. An African Contry cannot develop wihtout a govement that have a dream to do something for its country,and this present govement have that dream,they are there to develop so please let them continue dowing their jobs.
Gambia has never been better than now and it is going much better for the young people.
Do not blame the president orhis govement those people sent to jail are not innocent they dont go to jail for notting they did something thats why they are in jail.You have to blame those in jail rather than the govement.The Gambia system is working and it ower kids that wil enjoyed the benifet of what we old people are suffering.we have to thing of the feature not today.
One thing i also want to say about the death of that jonalist Deyda Hydara he is death and gone for ever,Why do not the Gambians forget him and contuine there lives? A dead man is a dead man but live must a on.
All the opposision are dowing is to great confistion and those old people that are against the govement never did notting fo gambia.
Jawara and his followers are the worst ellement for Gambia.
Let this present govement continue there job. |
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sankahjang
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 25 Dec 2005 : 00:45:52
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| Mr It sound to me that you are one fo those people who hardly use their mind to figure out for themself whatis going on around them, and hence they rely on the saying of the those who are perhaps putting a drop of sweet in their mouth. The fact is most of the people who contribute to this forum reason about the things they talk about. If you should come here and tell us that all the present government is doing is right, then I will suggest you try and reason about things going on in Gambia. To uproot injustice, you have cocider the past. Thats why we are still crying about Deyda and many more like him. PEACE! |
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alieo baba norho
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Posted - 26 Dec 2005 : 00:30:45
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Please Mr,
Dont misunderstand me i do not know who/when/why kill this deyda,my point is Gambia as a Nation cannot stopp because of one dead mann.There are over 1.5 mil gambians to live.the death of Deyda is should not effect the development off Gambia.I dont know who is deyda and what he mean to you or others but he is not a national herio.what do he do for Gambia? compaire to the present Govement.Action speak higher than voice,the govement is working hard for gambia and deyda open his voice.Every one have the right to say what they feel about things but you dont have the right to distopt/delay others jobb.Sorry about my bad english,much better for me to write in norweagen.
One thing we Gambian do not want is to support the govement that is here to develop this country but in stead wi always support the currupt govement just to have some money for our oune benifet.You can compair jawara 30
years of ruling and this present govement 10 years of ruling.the result tells its words.
Was there any justice in the past? No not in ny time 30 years ago.Ower fathers/grandfathers were the loosers they have been used by the jawara govement and Mr P.S.Njie(UP) (the former opposition leader).There was no system in ower beloved country before, but now things are getting better as fare as justice concern.You can cry for Deyda untill your death. You should cry for the young developing Gambia and your kids instead of those corupt old people that have lost every thing and their prevelages they werw having under jawarw govement.If you have some thing you have to have get document that proves that it is yours and how you afford it.This is justice. |
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Amna
Gambia
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Posted - 26 Dec 2005 : 08:16:24
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Dear All,
I am sure Junkung and his accolytes are having a laugh at our expense. Just read the frantic, self induced panic regurgitation and insults we direct now at NADD executive Ousainou Darboe based on little or flimsy evidence. The Wollof have a saying " bagga def akk mann def", which literally translates to "wanna do and can do". First Waa Juwara is quoted as saying " Darboe insists that NADD is an Alliance not a party" which is legally and technically both fact and fiction. How?
1. NADD - National Alliance for Democracy and Development is an alliance of opposition parties, UDP, PDOIS, PPP, NDAM, NRP, GPP? [Assan Camara's party] and came into being with the signing of an MOU.
2. But when it registered as a party with the IEC, Junkung, the wily hyena 'jalgatti' them [a wrestling term - when one is thrown over head] and the UDP, PDOIS and NRP seats in the second National Assembly were declared vacated and NADD stood for re-election winning 3 out of the 4 seats.
So earlier, i pointed out Darboe's strength as a Constitutionalist and weakness as a Political leader, Legalese - speaking law instead of politics, where OJ, Waa and even Hamat run circles around him. The fact is he is just being as honest as always, stating the bedrock of the NADD MANIFESTO - a five year alliance to rectify and restore democratic governance and rule of law in The Gambia. I am sure Halifa, OJ, Hamat and even Waa, will relish the day when in a free. democratic Gambia, the PPP, UDP, GPP, PDOIS, NDAM and maybe even APRC will have a free debate and democratic discourse and allow the Gambian electorate to chose the government and democratic dispensation of their choice. But, there is a time for everything. Now is the time for NADD to coalesce and defeat Junkung and the APRC monster strangling our nation.
To Waa, Darboe and NADD, I say if you cannot agree to disagree without exposing and making us a laughing matter, then you are indeed unworthy of the high hopes and expectations we have in you.
WORDS OF HUMBLE ADVICE
1. WAA- the time of grandstanding and political gadflying are over for now. For too many years, I have admired you but this is the time for tact, patience and diplomacy as OJ practices with former NCP, GPP and PDOIS adversary. It goes to the heart of your own political maturity, we have no doubts of your honesty, bravery and dedication but now MATURITY is the issue.
2. DARBOE- Honourable Lawyer, this is the time for POLITICSPEAK not LEGALESE. Time for you to stop being a lawyer and act like a Politician not because you want to but because you have to, you need to on behalf of your family, UDP and all of us who continue to repose our confidence in your character.
3. To Chairman Hassan Camara, OJ, Halifa and Sedia - time for the rest of you to bring the others on line as in a democracy. Freedom without responsibility, limits and restrictions is anarchy. NADD is in danger of transforming from a democratic organization into an anarchy. Everyone must know when to speak and when to hold one's tongue. Only the designated spokesperson should speak for the organization. And it is quoted in the Hadith that the Prophet said anyone who cannot keep secrets is not a Muslim and NADD members and executives must learn this fundamental rule of any form of struggle.
4. LASTLY TO ALL GAMBIANS and SUPPORTERS OF NADD or OPPONENTS OF THE JUNKUNG/APRC MONSTROSITY - if we panic and resort to name calling at the first sign of trouble, then we are unworthy for the sacrifice of our leaders and deserve the Junkung monster. Darboe has been harassed, accused of murder, gone to court immeasurable times while we enjoy our lifes and wallow in our self pity, Waa spent months if not years in jail fighting for our collective liberties, Shygle Nyassi was tortured and nearly killed, OJ, Hamat, Halifa all continue to struggle on our behalf, and yet, at every liitle miss step we turn on them with GUSTO..SHAME ON US...SHAME ON US..I recall Jesus in the Gospel, when it was said, that on a boat in the sea of Galilee, Jesus was sleeping and there rose a storm and the disciples panicked and woke him saying "Master, save us, we are finished" and he rebuked them saying "O ye of little faith" and he commanded the storm in the name of God to abate and it did. So once more, I say, keep faith KEEP FAITH KEEP FAITH. Again, I quote the scriptures, Gospel, Injil, Good News, Glad Tidings - Jesus said to his disciples, " Dont you know that faith can move mountains". I bid you all peace and God's Blessings in the festive season of our Christian co-religionists.
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Rainbow
Gambia
114 Posts |
Posted - 26 Dec 2005 : 10:34:35
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Yes Deyda is dead and gone; but i wish the next to be gun down to be you or a close relative of yours - then you will understand the difference between death and alife!!!
Rainbow
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Originally posted by alieo baba norho
Hello peoples,
I do notknow who is this or that.Gambia need a very strong Govement and that is what this present govement is. An African Contry cannot develop wihtout a govement that have a dream to do something for its country,and this present govement have that dream,they are there to develop so please let them continue dowing their jobs.
Gambia has never been better than now and it is going much better for the young people.
Do not blame the president orhis govement those people sent to jail are not innocent they dont go to jail for notting they did something thats why they are in jail.You have to blame those in jail rather than the govement.The Gambia system is working and it ower kids that wil enjoyed the benifet of what we old people are suffering.we have to thing of the feature not today.
One thing i also want to say about the death of that jonalist Deyda Hydara he is death and gone for ever,Why do not the Gambians forget him and contuine there lives? A dead man is a dead man but live must a on.
All the opposision are dowing is to great confistion and those old people that are against the govement never did notting fo gambia.
Jawara and his followers are the worst ellement for Gambia.
Let this present govement continue there job.
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alieo baba norho
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Posted - 29 Dec 2005 : 21:48:21
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Hei rainbow,
It thing that it is better to thing and do some thing positive for gambia rather than writing about a dead man.This world is moving very fast ,start thinging of your feature than the grave yard.On my side this is the end of deyda topic,have no time for it.Thanks |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 30 Dec 2005 : 00:35:30
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The man died for trying to be free! For trying to write the truth!
That is the point. In a country trying to be democratic people should be free to write and say what they like, without fear of imprisonment or death. Until this is the case, Gambia is no democracy. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 30 Dec 2005 : 00:37:42
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You have NO TIME for a man that gave his life for his country??? That makes me SO angry!!!!!!!   |
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Bigchiefin
USA
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Posted - 06 Jan 2006 : 11:45:51
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Bornafrican: What is it with you? It seems like you have something personal against Darbo or perhaps personal feelings you are in qualms with. I am 24 and have been abroad for the past 10yrs, which definitely makes me a novice on Gambian politics.The only reason I mentioned my goegraphical status is to show you my meager knowledge of gambian politics but it doesnt mean that am totally unaware of whats happening. I read news on Gambian affairs on a regular basis and understands the country's dire need for changes within the political arena. Darbo as a beligerant politician stood up against the APRC in two consecutive elections just to help safe us from the ills of Jammeh. Society cannot remain stangnant and people cannot likewise. darbo might change his political strategy but that doesn't make him a traitor. He is a hero and should be praised for exposing the APRC on numerous occasions. Excuse my vernacular "Don't hate the player, hate the game."
I do not wish to offend you or anybody that shares the same views as you. I've been checking this site for a while but never subscribed to it until lately, but bornafrican, please dont feel too emotional. try to destroy that cankerworm inhibited in you and have a better view on Gambia's political landscape. Please watch your language because this site is viewed by people of different demographies. We need the likes of Dabo and sallah. i would appreciate your understanding. |
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