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Karamba
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 Posted - 25 Jan 2010 : 21:19:43
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Interpreted different ways, there is utter dead justice in Gambia. If having to let the corrupt members of the judiciary off the hook makes sense, that is dead justice. Having to charge others whose ignorance of the law can be excusable, then justice is dead in Gambia. Oh yes, there is dead justice in Gambia.
Where members of the judiciary dip their hands in public coffers, they have done so with full knowledge of law. Is it because they know the law so well they are able to escape the hook?
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toubab1020
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Posted - 25 Jan 2010 : 21:36:37
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There are very good judges, Judge Moses Richards. Any evidence to suggest he is associated in any way with those un named members of the judiciary who you make the topic of this post.?
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Dalton1
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Posted - 25 Jan 2010 : 21:44:13
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Justice Wowo, run away justice paul, and the rest of mercenary world...
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Jan 2010 : 21:50:08
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Individual judges operate within the sphere of a judicial environment that is considered lame and unjust by curious observers. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 25 Jan 2010 : 23:37:47
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Karamba,so you are a politician  who else could frame such a statement as you have just made,it's probably true but without saying very much that anyone could disagree with,leaving the field open for those with stronger views to have infights amongst themselves, whilst you "observe" without giving your "own" opinion.
Here you are, This from The Observer,a few names here for you to comment on,the poor old magistrate here is up the creek without a paddle it appears,OK lets have another adjournment (or in normal terms lets put it off again until sometime in the future)
sine die - definition of sine die on Financial Times Lexicon. To stop something and arrange for it to continue later, without actually fixing a date for it.
I think it is quite rare in legal circles for a case that has been adjourned sine die to be reinstituted,it just remains on the court records,Kay will tell you if I am correct.
Subsist. intransitive verb. to continue to be or exist; have existence as a reality, entity, etc. to continue to be in use, force, etc. to continue to live; ...
http://observer.gm/africa/gambia/article/ex-judicial-officials-case-adjourned
Ex. Judicial officials#146; case adjourned
Africa » Gambia
Monday, 25 January 2010
The ongoing criminal trial involving the state and six former judicial officials who are alleged to have been involved in a financial scam resumed Friday, 22 January, 2010 before the presiding magistrate, Emmanual Nkea, at the Banjul Magistrates Court.
The six are: Haruna Jaiteh, former judicial secretary; Amina Saho-Ceesay, ex-master of the high court; former justice Ngui Mboob-Janneh; Ansumana Sonko; pa Modou Njie and Lamin Sonko, ex-accounts officers and bailiffs at the judiciary. When the case resumed, DPP Richard Chenge informed the court that he has written the legal opinion. DPP Chenge submitted that the legal opinion has to be submitted to his superior for approval. He therefore craved the court#146;s indulgence to grant a short adjournment.
Presiding magistrate, Emmanuel Nkea disclosed that it is more than 3 months since the case commenced and the state was yet to file a proper charge against the accused persons. Magistrate Nkea noted that he doesn#146;t take pleasure in parading the accused persons before the court every time and threatened to dismiss the case. Lead defence counsel, lawyer Antouman AB Gaye submitted that the defence position is for the state to withdraw the charges against the accused persons and come back whenever they are ready. Lawyer Gaye told the court that Amina Saho-Ceesay is a pregnant woman and it is not easy for her to be climbing the staircase of the court. Lawyer Gaye then urged the court to discharge the accused persons and strike out the case.
DPP Richard Chenge argued that if they are discharged, they will be rearrested and the issue of their police bail and subsequent re-arraignment before the court will start denovo. DPP Chenge submitted that instead of discharging the accused persons, the court should adjourn the case sine dire, so that when the legal opinion he has written is finalised, the state can then relist the case for hearing. DPP Chenge explained that if the court adjourn sine dire, the accused persons#146; bail can continue but if the charges were withdrawn against the accused persons, it would be highly embarrassing for them to be rearrested.
Presiding magistrate Emmanuel Nkea however adjourned the matter sine dire and ordered that the bail of the accused persons subsist.
Author: by Sidiq Asemota
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Originally posted by Karamba
Individual judges operate within the sphere of a judicial environment that is considered lame and unjust by curious observers.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 01:20:24
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Toubab1020,
Like you, I too so badly hate politics. May be I should put it this way that I hate the way crooked people play it.
The big issue is that we to take on people in politics for one reason that our resources run in their twisting hands. Say no to politics and permit any ruthless crook to dance on your bare skin. There are better reason to pursue people in politics than others reasons for letting them go.
Where ignorance of the law is no execuse I wonder the sense about knowledge of the law being an empowerment to escape crime. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 12:11:43
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Karamba,Thanks for that, I cannot be bothered by arguing with people who hold views that are not common sense(or as you put it "the way crooked people play it.")
ALL politicans have their own interests at heart I have yet to come across one who selflessly works JUST for the community,there may be some but I havn't come across one yet! I understand your sentiments and if it gives you a feeling of satisfaction to join in no problem.I agree that many things want fixing in this world and the only way to change things in a civilised world is by politics,for me I am happy to leave that to those who enjoy politics I am happy to just observe. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kayjatta
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 23:04:40
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Toubab, I think one can presume that the case, adjourned 'sine die' (indefinitely) is dead. Remember what I said about this case earlier? It was my opinion that at best the little guys in the case, Mr. Jaiteh and the others may sink in the end instead of the accused judges. I think you are absolutely on spot here. |
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shaka
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 02:10:09
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| If anyone needs evidence that the judiciary system has gone mad, then this is the proof. You accuse people, charge them with a crime(even detain them for a while),bring them to court and then ask for time to look for the evidence. Brilliant!! On what basis were they charged if evidence is the result of an audit finding made after charges were brought and the accused temporarily detained and brought to court? Why is seasoned lawyers like Antouman Gaye surrounded by top judges as accused persons allowing such contempt of the law to prevail? Last time we checked, the police were dilligently prosecuting the judges and the other accused on a different evidence until this ***** Chenge(remember this clown from the recent trial of six journalists?) turned up to take over proceedings. This whole business stinks and would not be worth a second of anybody's time if not for the tens of thousands of tax payer's dalasis wasted up to this point. Surely the police would not have prosecuted such high profile persons for crimes against the people if they had no evidence. Why is Chenge changing the tune and why is the defense suddenly nodding with approval to this new tune? Only in Jammeh's Gambia!!! |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 22:03:44
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Shaka,
I can't find any better way looking at state of lawlessness than how Yaya Jammeh prevails over Gambians. There are compelling reasons to believe that at least one of those judicial hands found dipping in the public coffers has some compromising connections.
In a country where lawless persons are allowed to prevail, you can't expect anything near good.
Dead justice or justice death, whatever!! Ndessan Gambia! |
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shaka
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Posted - 29 Jan 2010 : 02:53:02
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| Indeed Karamba, if only the veil of secrecy could be removed to expose this sham of a trial. There is indeed a seemingly compromising position being hatched behind the shadows, between the prosecution and the defence that did not bode well with the principles of fair dispensation of justice. It stinks!! Who knows, maybe some of these big wigs had dirt up their sleeves to throw back at the top hierachy if it risk humiliating them any longer. Their sense of injustice might probably be that they were not the only ones with dirty hands. The true story behind this façade, the Gambian people will never know it seems. Whatever the outcome, the only losers in this episode will be the masses as usual. Ndeysan indeed!! |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Jan 2010 : 21:30:50
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The unspoken word around Gambia is about criminality of Yaya Jammeh. There is no way that this bandit will become reasonable. He holds the deluded perception that inducing fear makes him invincible. Some day some other person will take him by surprise. Yaya has exhausted the better part of Gambian tolerance. He is such a tensed person full of arrogance.
The truth will one day surface no matter how Yaya thinks of fooling around. Just that lot of time would have wasted for no good. This devil-worshipping fellow does not care at all. |
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