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MeMe



United Kingdom
541 Posts

Posted - 28 Jun 2009 :  15:02:08  Show Profile Send MeMe a Private Message
Come on, people! "Robbed of his identity as a black man" - hello, who other than himself was bleaching his skin, who other than himself submitted (craved?!) plastic surgery that changed his actual proper features??? This is a man born and raised by two black parents!! A man who became famous even before he started messing about with his face! He was indeed a musical genius but seemed to have very serious mental health issues.

And suddenly because one of his brothers has converted to islam then MJ himself is now a muslim?? Hmmmm, how come this myth is only being perpetuated here since his death? Where were the interviews and the proclamations from Michael during his lifetime?

It's beyond laughable how you lot can rewrite HISTORY to suit your own ends ..... yeah, I also mean his album ... is there any mention of his faith on it??? Classic Bantaba nonsense at its best! Sheesh, wait a minute - maybe this was a CIA plot to stop him becoming famous?! I mean who would have ever heard of Michael Jackson before his untimely death????


It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna
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serenata



Germany
1400 Posts

Posted - 28 Jun 2009 :  16:42:37  Show Profile Send serenata a Private Message
MeMe, I am not at all the only one to say that Jackson NEVER had the chance to become so famous if he stayed a normal Black - not in the 1980ies. This is not my 'paranoid' idea, but consensus among Americans who know the US showbiz. We Europeans, though we are quite 'good' at being racist, sometimes are very naive about the irrational, hysterical US racism.
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tamsier



United Kingdom
558 Posts

Posted - 28 Jun 2009 :  22:28:28  Show Profile
Meme,

'And suddenly because one of his brothers has converted to islam then MJ himself is now a muslim?? Hmmmm, how come this myth is only being perpetuated here since his death? Where were the interviews and the proclamations from Michael during his lifetime?'

You tell them Meme. I know that there were certain people from the nation of islam in his circle of friends, but I have never ever heard him say he converted to islam or read somewhere [gossip or factual] that he was muslim.

As far as I am concerned. I agree with kaanibaa when he said:

'After all is said and done here, what remains is that a human being has died . He lived his life which some described as very interesting and others as tainted, whatever it was , my opinion is that human beings are infallible and he being one has his faults too. Now that he has died I hope people would focus on the many good things that he has done , leaving the rest to him in his grave.'


Tamsier

Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.

Roog a fa ha.

Edited by - tamsier on 28 Jun 2009 22:30:13
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 28 Jun 2009 :  23:59:14  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3494296/Michael-Jackson-converts-to-Islam-and-changes-name-to-Mikaeel.html

Well there is a rumour since last year. (Now 21 2008, by the British Newspaper). Obviously now he is death, that is a news.

However, if he is a member of Nation of Islam. That is not a religion. It is a political move so he would not be considered as Muslim.


Meme

Didn't your mama tell you not to talk bad about death? Anyway. Why is it big deal to you, if Muslim Gambians are talking about his being Muslim? I am not sure what you are saying to be honest. What is your point when muslims wonder if Michael Jackson really became a muslim. He is famous. He is just died. There is a speculation that he became a muslim, so what is so negative? I am looking forward for your reply.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 29 Jun 2009 11:20:12
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 29 Jun 2009 :  11:26:43  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
quote:

....but I have never ever heard him say he converted to islam or read somewhere [gossip or factual] that he was muslim.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3494296/Michael-Jackson-converts-to-Islam-and-changes-name-to-Mikaeel.html

quote:


You tell them Meme....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD5tqRqkWCI


Ma favorite song....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHXpnZi9Hzs

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 30 Jun 2009 14:05:46
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Babylon



Sweden
691 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2009 :  00:36:44  Show Profile Send Babylon a Private Message
Why did you have to leave us so soon M.J?
There was noone like you nor will there ever be. We will always love you and miss you.
R.I.P
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Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 16 Jul 2009 :  16:41:31  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
MJ is the only human that has attempted to be one with HIS ART
MJ is MUSIC and MUSIC is MJ.

Oh MJ, thanks for showing us, the mortals
How to be one with art
How the performer is inseparable from performance

HE who becomes one with HIS art is not human

Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 17 Jul 2009 :  01:52:08  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tamsier

You tell them Meme. I know that there were certain people from the nation of islam in his circle of friends, but I have never ever heard him say he converted to islam or read somewhere [gossip or factual] that he was muslim.

As far as I am concerned. I agree with kaanibaa when he said:

'After all is said and done here, what remains is that a human being has died . He lived his life which some described as very interesting and others as tainted, whatever it was , my opinion is that human beings are infallible and he being one has his faults too. Now that he has died I hope people would focus on the many good things that he has done , leaving the rest to him in his grave.'





Thanks Kaaniba for comments above in the interests of humanity and destiny! May his soul R.I.P!

Allah is best judge and knew best!
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 17 Jul 2009 :  01:52:47  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
Excellent piece Janko.

Peace

Sister omega

Peace
Sister Omega
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