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dbaldeh

USA
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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  00:08:28  Show Profile  Visit dbaldeh's Homepage Send dbaldeh a Private Message
Report reaching the online blogs indicate British Authorities are at this hour threatening to deport a Gambian young activist Addou Karim Sanneh to Jammeh's Held hole for indefinite detention and possibly torture in the hands of Jammeh's tugs.

Whatever the reason is behind detaining our brother, the British authorities should not deport this youngman to a brutal regime he has been fighting against.

Let us all join hands and fload the British authorities with emails and phone calls telling them that it is a violation of Abdou Karim's rights to deport him to a hostile regime.

Below is an update from one of our brothers who spoke to Abdoukarim.

Courtesy of A. Koroma

Dear All,

I spent approximately 15 minutes with Abdoukarim. He has asked me to let
you know that he is in high spirits. he's also asked me to say to you
that although the Detention Center is not where he would like to be
presently, he did say say that he prefers it to Yahya Jammeh's Hell Hole
also known as Mile II He has been contacted by Bahoum and others in
the UK and also by Saihou Mballow and others on this side of the pond.
Tomorrow, Abdoukarim will post more contact numbers and email addresses
to supplement what brother Dave has posted this afternoon which I found
helpful.

Amnesty International UK is handling Abdoukarim's case. He has provided
me with three email addresses to be posted here. Since I am not a member
of the Gambia-L could someone please post these contacts there. For
those planning to put in a word on behalf of Abdoukarim, please find the
addressess below:

1. tbernath@amnesty.org (Ms. Tanya Bernath)
2. khairunissa.dhala@amnesty.org
3. drossele@amnesty.org

May I suggest one letter addressed to Tanya and cc the rest. I hope this
will get the letter writers started until we hear from Abdoukarim
tomorrow, Inshallah.

A. Koroma

Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  11:08:57  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
Thanks demba. I have spoken with karim throughout the past three days in his detention house. he is in high spirit and cooping well. we are lobbying for expert advice and assistance. we hope that will be able to help the situation much better.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

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fee_sweetie



United Kingdom
127 Posts

Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  15:29:36  Show Profile Send fee_sweetie a Private Message
What is he being detained for ????

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you'd have good people doing good things + evil people doing evil things but for good people to do evil things it takes religion"- Richard Dawkins

Edited by - fee_sweetie on 13 Feb 2009 15:30:03
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Dalton1



3485 Posts

Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  17:55:42  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
Hi All,

http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?A2=ind0902b&L=gambia-l&T=0&F=&S=&P=31545


Thanks LJD for taking the lead. We are not wasting any time now. Among others, I was able to speak with a Gambian working for the British Homeland office. He is trapped in a conflict of interest, but has agreed to work with the team for his release or at least stop the deportation. In as much as he has a job to keep, Karim is also his brother to help. Let us start raining the faxes and letters now as directed by LJD.

Bro. Karim himself is in high spirit and sends his regards to all of you concerned about his affairs. Because of his unselfish nature, he is more worried about Gambia’s “wounded struggle” than his own faith.

For all those who care for his safety, privacy and wellbeing please follow LJD’s directive on the links below. Writing an attestation could be as simple as stating about his peaceful nature, his good moral character, his societal involvement in political affairs especially that of the Gambia-L and Gambia-Post. The trend at home is not conductive for such active folks. You can cite examples, express the “more than likely tendency” that this man (Karim) is likely not to find comfort with their midst. Whatever information you provide should be verifiable because most of the asylum authorities will always like to double-check on facts. This should be honest about him; within transparent parameters.

Yours for the struggle,

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:

Edited by - Dalton1 on 13 Feb 2009 18:30:55
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turk



USA
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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  20:40:46  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Why is he detained?

Original post says 'whatever the reason he was detained'. Even he has a criminal activity?

Is he claiming refugee status? Is he actually econimic refugee?

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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Dalton1



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Posted - 13 Feb 2009 :  23:02:14  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
Safety tips for all Gambian immigrants

Dear Gambians,



Immigration issues are very complicated. I am sure everyone have a story to share about how they obtained legal residency or citizenship in the place where they live, even those residing in the Gambia. The best thing to do when in trouble, don't sit over a time-bomb. Please confide with people close to you who can keep your privacy. Please please always talk to a lawyer, and that is your best bet. If you can reinstate back to school, running away from immigration authorities will never solve the problem. The solution to the problem would be engaging a lawyer who can advice you of your legal rights. If you are shy with your problem, there is a danger that you will run into a worst problem.



By this, Gambians should also unite always. We shouldn't have to wait for trouble to unite, or to form organizations. Prevention is better than cure.



i wish you all the best..


D...

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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fee_sweetie



United Kingdom
127 Posts

Posted - 14 Feb 2009 :  13:25:13  Show Profile Send fee_sweetie a Private Message
so is it a secret to why he is detained????

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you'd have good people doing good things + evil people doing evil things but for good people to do evil things it takes religion"- Richard Dawkins
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Dalton1



3485 Posts

Posted - 14 Feb 2009 :  17:06:10  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
Turk ,

http://www.ncadc.org.uk:80/campaigns/youmust.htm

Just incase you are serious with your inquiries, the man is not a criminal…he was on a student visa which lapsed. He felt the need to adjust his status based on his perceived fear, because of his engagements. Apparently, authorities denied his file and threaten to take him home. What you and others can do is to follow the links and put in some words, as simple as "Free him now!" You are from Turkey I believe and must have immigrated to UK or whereever you live now. The procedure for immigrants everywhere is daunting because of some harsh laws in involved. Personally, I believe the issue of 'immigrations' is yet another slap on the face for people from developing nations. That is what I call it the "melting-pot" justice…idiocy at its best. Those on the top float while others at the bottom continually boil to death. Don't you agree??


"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:

Edited by - Dalton1 on 14 Feb 2009 17:13:17
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 14 Feb 2009 :  21:42:00  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
On the other words. He came to UK claiming UK authorities with the intension of being student (officially),but actually he could have an hidden agenda that he was planning to appy for refugee status. Once in UK, he actually did claim refugee status. I heard many similar stories.

You said 'need to adjust his status', You mean apply for refugee status right?

I am hoping he got his wishes if he is genuine refugee. If he is economic refugee, that is another story.


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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fee_sweetie



United Kingdom
127 Posts

Posted - 15 Feb 2009 :  02:23:04  Show Profile Send fee_sweetie a Private Message
its all a bit suspiscious if you ask me......

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you'd have good people doing good things + evil people doing evil things but for good people to do evil things it takes religion"- Richard Dawkins
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 15 Feb 2009 :  04:25:40  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
dalton

I don't agree. I am not sure you are talking openly. ANd you expect others to support this guy without the knowing facts and free sweetie (it happens occasioanlly) is right. Something is fishy.

Canada receive 250,000 immigrants every year wheather it is skill migration, or family reunion. Nothing daunting, or discrimination. Only 10,000 or so refuge came to Canada. Procodure of immigrants are not daunting. There is a point system for skill immigrants. Basically you are able to bring your wife, children as part of family reunion. So I have no idea what you are talking about daunting?

Australia receives many immigrants every year particularly from APAC region. They also have an excellent regugee system. They actually have offices in for example african countries and they accept refugees off-shore. Not on shore. Recently most refugees come from Sierre Leone and Sudane due to war.



in this case, this guy came to UK under student visa. When he applied for visa, he said he wants to study, he will come back to Gambia eventually. He also stated that he has some ties in Gambia such as employement, or business. Obviously he lied. Once he came to UK, he said he has a political problem. So under these circumstances, do you expect other to support this guy who lied? I don't see UK government is doing anything wrong.

quote:
By this, Gambians should also unite always


To others that may be taken as treson? no? There may be some understand from unity: 'love your country' and 'do not make up false story in order to gain individual gain'.


Gambians in Austria

http://www.allgambian.net/NewsDetails.aspx?id=870


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

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kayjatta



2978 Posts

Posted - 16 Feb 2009 :  08:13:09  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Turk just to clarify; I am not sure about the U.K. but in the U.S. eligibility for asylum or refugee status is not determined by pre-application immigration status. Instead, it is solely based on reason and credibility of the applicant's (narration) of facts. The applicants invariably only needs to prove by the preponderance of evidence (i.e. more likely than not) that his/her life was endangered or will be endangered if he/she returns to his country of origin. it does not matter whether the applicant entered the country as a student (legally) or simply just crossed the border without documentation (illegally).
Many asylum applicants do not even truthfully say how they entered the country, so at least Abdou Karim was honest enough to say that he came in as a student. In a situation like that, the immigration officers' duty will be to research the socio-political situation in the Gambia (in the U.S. they are likely to check with the Amnesty International's country reports about the human rights condition in the applicant's country of origin-in this case the Gambia). They may also try to gather as much information as possible about the applicant's own background such as education, previous employments, family, criminal history, but many of those are scanty except what the applicant provides on the application forms.
Based on the standard in the U.S. and what I have known Abdou Karim to be ( I have known him for over 15 years) there is a strong case that Abdou Karim should not be deported to his native Gambia. Even if his application is denied, there should be a stay of removal that could allow him to stay in the country (U.K.) but without the benfit of asylum.
I pray that Abdou karim is released and granted asylum in the U.K.

CAVEAT: kayjatta is not an attorney and has no legal qualifications, therefore this is not a legal advice. If anyone needs legal advice, please consult an attorney.

Edited by - kayjatta on 16 Feb 2009 08:18:33
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 16 Feb 2009 :  11:07:52  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
That is right about US process. As I said before, if he is a genuine regufee, I hope he got his wishes.


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 16 Feb 2009 :  11:10:51  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
Kay, nice words. In as much as we appreciate others having their say in our national matters, what they don't know, it is better to let such topics go rather than paranbulate for the sake of saying something. turk has being tangling himself none stop in many Gambian debate.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 16 Feb 2009 :  11:24:58  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Santa

Boo hoo! Ok next time I will be less tough on you. Because you sound like you are crying like a baby.


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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Dalton1



3485 Posts

Posted - 16 Feb 2009 :  16:53:19  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Santanfara

Kay, nice words. In as much as we appreciate others having their say in our national matters, what they don't know, it is better to let such topics go rather than paranbulate for the sake of saying something. turk has being tangling himself none stop in many Gambian debate.



Suntou,

I totally concur on the above. One only responds with the hope that you can filter the minds, incase they didn't get it. I think that we as a diaspora force got a task to tackle. Out of respect for Karim, and his family....please please go in for just that. & thanks for your hints.

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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