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toubab1020



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Posted - 22 Jan 2009 :  12:11:24  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
.............from Gambian members of bantaba in cyberspace!

http://observer.gm/africa/gambia/article/re-predatory-tourist



"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

jambo



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Posted - 22 Jan 2009 :  13:09:26  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
am not a gambian, BUT HERE IS MY RESPONSE,
FOR ALL THE ILLS THAT SOME TOURISTS CAN BRING, HOW ABOUT THE ILLS THAT are given to the turists,
ie when you land at the airport, TAXES FOR MANY things, fees to get things done,
BUMSTERS/prostitutes etc,
if tourists bring sills to the country DEAL WITH IT, it cannot happen if the locals refuse. the points made could be stopped but are not

WHY NOT CORRUPTION
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fee_sweetie



United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Jan 2009 :  13:39:22  Show Profile Send fee_sweetie a Private Message
ah yes, but its easier to blame others than yourself and some Gambians are very good at that!

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you'd have good people doing good things + evil people doing evil things but for good people to do evil things it takes religion"- Richard Dawkins
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jambo



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Posted - 22 Jan 2009 :  14:09:25  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
fee_sweetie, i followed both stories, first the main story and then the comment.
not sure how many peopel read the first story

my thouhgts/remarks
one, when the man in question was asked for some information he gaveit, he was with the girls in question openly, no sneaking behind the bushes etc, out in the open.
two when he was challenged about the Girls She produceD a id CARD,
THREE, WHEN CHALLENGED ABUT THE CARD, HE CALLED HIS policeman friend WHO HELPED HIM TO ARRANGE THE ID CARDS in the first place.
FOUR, the parents of the girls knew of the arrangement,

SO LETS BE CLEAR HERE, IT IS NOT ACCEPTABE FOR THIS TO HAPPEN, but at what stage do you stop it. AND IF MONEY IS BEING PAID, THEN LET THE FAMILY TAKE RESPONSIBLIITY FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD OF MANY A GAMBIAN GIRL, 10 years upwards being married to men over 50.
get my drift.

YOU DONT LIKE THIS TOURIST, ARREST THEM, AND THROW THEM OUT OF THE COUNTRY, DO NOT TOLERATE IT IF YOU DO NOTE LIKE IT,
BUT REMEMBER THE PARANTS ARE TAKING MONEY FOR THIS, so what is their part in this story.

THE FIGURES SHOULD POINT IN OTHER DIRECTIONS


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toubab1020



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Posted - 22 Jan 2009 :  15:57:04  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
And This

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090122/twl-irish-woman-jailed-for-incest-41f21e0.html

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 22 Jan 2009 15:57:58
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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  08:34:37  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
this is not gambian
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Hiz Princess



United Kingdom
464 Posts

Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  11:21:30  Show Profile Send Hiz Princess a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by toubab1020

.............from Gambian members of bantaba in cyberspace!

http://observer.gm/africa/gambia/article/re-predatory-tourist






Wrong again Toubab
I find it very strange the lack of response
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Hiz Princess



United Kingdom
464 Posts

Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  11:23:53  Show Profile Send Hiz Princess a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by toubab1020

And This

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090122/twl-irish-woman-jailed-for-incest-41f21e0.html


Its a very sick world we inhabit
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Hiz Princess



United Kingdom
464 Posts

Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  11:26:12  Show Profile Send Hiz Princess a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jambo

fee_sweetie, i followed both stories, first the main story and then the comment.
not sure how many peopel read the first story

my thouhgts/remarks
one, when the man in question was asked for some information he gaveit, he was with the girls in question openly, no sneaking behind the bushes etc, out in the open.
two when he was challenged about the Girls She produceD a id CARD,
THREE, WHEN CHALLENGED ABUT THE CARD, HE CALLED HIS policeman friend WHO HELPED HIM TO ARRANGE THE ID CARDS in the first place.
FOUR, the parents of the girls knew of the arrangement,

SO LETS BE CLEAR HERE, IT IS NOT ACCEPTABE FOR THIS TO HAPPEN, but at what stage do you stop it. AND IF MONEY IS BEING PAID, THEN LET THE FAMILY TAKE RESPONSIBLIITY FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD OF MANY A GAMBIAN GIRL, 10 years upwards being married to men over 50.
get my drift.

YOU DONT LIKE THIS TOURIST, ARREST THEM, AND THROW THEM OUT OF THE COUNTRY, DO NOT TOLERATE IT IF YOU DO NOTE LIKE IT,
BUT REMEMBER THE PARANTS ARE TAKING MONEY FOR THIS, so what is their part in this story.

THE FIGURES SHOULD POINT IN OTHER DIRECTIONS


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Jambo where did you find these stories the link only opened a letter????
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toubab1020



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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  11:43:27  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jambo

this is not gambian



Yes agreed,but I felt it was relevent in that it showed the disgusting behaviour of mankind as did the subject of the topic that is why I posted it,not only men who are culprits in disgusting behaviour that is worldwide.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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jambo



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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  11:57:02  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
okay point taken, but she will be judge on this action, because she is guilty it is on her hands. NO MONEY WAS INVOLVED

the other case has guilt on a lot of peoples hands not just the Man involved. who will take this man to court NOBODY, money changed hands.
spot the difference


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Hiz Princess



United Kingdom
464 Posts

Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  12:02:56  Show Profile Send Hiz Princess a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by toubab1020

quote:
Originally posted by jambo

this is not gambian



Yes agreed,but I felt it was relevent in that it showed the disgusting behaviour of mankind as did the subject of the topic that is why I posted it,not only men who are culprits in disgusting behaviour that is worldwide.



Theres always this misconception that women have this maternal instinct to protect the child rather than harm.

Theres are many female predators out there
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toubab1020



12312 Posts

Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  12:33:34  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jambo

okay point taken, but she will be judge on this action, because she is guilty it is on her hands. NO MONEY WAS INVOLVED

the other case has guilt on a lot of peoples hands not just the Man involved. who will take this man to court NOBODY, money changed hands.
spot the difference



I didnt consider the money question ,all I saw were very bad things being done by both men and women.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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jambo



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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  13:57:50  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
i read the first story, and released it was a comment on a previous story, did the research and found the original story.
http://observer.gm/africa/article/predatory-tourist

i can print the whole thing if anyone wants its.
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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  14:08:40  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
toubab1020, i can print a whole page of stories, but they cannot be measured side by side, each one has to judge on its merits.
the story in gambia made the news because it was a tourist, but i bet away from the beaten track there is an older person with a younger person, in the name of marriage.
also there are some stories i could provide where girls age 10 and 12 in saudi arabia have been given in marriage to pay off the families debts, what do you say to that
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toubab1020



12312 Posts

Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  14:39:03  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jambo

toubab1020, i can print a whole page of stories, but they cannot be measured side by side, each one has to judge on its merits.
the story in gambia made the news because it was a tourist, but i bet away from the beaten track there is an older person with a younger person, in the name of marriage.
also there are some stories i could provide where girls age 10 and 12 in saudi arabia have been given in marriage to pay off the families debts, what do you say to that


I have no arguement with what you say I am sure that you are completly correct,the answer that you would be given if you made enquiry of the families concerned would be either, "its a matter of culture" or "we have to protect the family honour" the "forced marriage" of a young girl to an old man is not right in my opinion but in the opinion of others it may be seen as a process of last resort and in their minds justified,in other words sacrifice one girl to save the whole family.Would a young girl be happy with such an arrangement ? The fact that a girl in such circumstances may well be better off more food to eat, a chance to further her education, good clothes to wear etc.On the other side the husband may not be a good man and her life would be worse,in this case the fact that the husband is a tourist probably means that he has money,which he undoubtedly has as he has "bought" the girl .

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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