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kayjatta
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kondorong
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 Posted - 09 Jan 2009 : 17:50:26
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Is santa against dance? |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 09 Jan 2009 : 21:27:46
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Originally posted by kondorong
kay
Is santa against dance?
I assume not, especially this {oldest (original)} form of dance  . Thanks Kons. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 10 Jan 2009 : 12:18:43
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kay, thanks for showing us the sengalise dance vedio. i don't dance neither encourage it. i sometimes look into traditional msuic and how it evolve but i am not into it to be honest.
i never bought a yousour ndure cassette or cd, niether Jaliba etc. but when our culture is display in a modest form through traditional music, i sometimes listen to that online mainly. but yousou i believe is very much into mix setting entertainment whereby people dance and may even embrase each other, i am not in for that, as well he has taken senegalise music out the realms of its traditional setting. i am not anti-modern but our culture through music should be left the way it transmit that message decently and educatively. i use to like his original music, "mann aag suma dum, woi mane, bamako, and some others. just like i don't listen to jaliba on my own accord becus he too went out of the realms of mandingo kora music by stage performing using extrovat indecent dancers. this is against the culture of mandingo resservism. Islamicwise, there are differing opinion as to which music is allow and which is detestable. but one thing is clear, were ever the musician encourages male/female intermingling in close proximity, this is not allowed. the greater good of believer having a purify mind is compromise. i watched one of jaliba's vedio performing in Birmingham, London and Gunjure, he was telling the dancers "embrase" in mandinka, "iminina, fananya yee iminninla". i know kondo knows for sure what that entells .
music is captivating, which is a fact. our hearts should have enough space for our lord the most high. enjoy in a respectable and halal fashion. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
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kayjatta
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Posted - 12 Jan 2009 : 06:26:30
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| Absolutely Santafara! Mbai Gaye and the girls ... |
Edited by - kayjatta on 12 Jan 2009 10:42:56 |
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jammin
Jamaica
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Posted - 13 Jan 2009 : 22:30:12
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This comment I find most interesting, yet saddening
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Originally posted by Santanfara
kay, thanks for showing us the sengalise dance vedio. i don't dance neither encourage it. i sometimes look into traditional msuic and how it evolve but i am not into it to be honest.
I will be the first to admit that I don't know much about the Muslim faith, but, isn't Allah/God who gave man the capacity and gift to sing and dance?
Thus denying yourself that gift, are you not frowning on a gift provided for you by Allah?
Its just a question and I ask it for better understanding.
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Originally posted by kayjatta
Absolutely Santafara! Mbai Gaye and the girls ...
Happy new year Kayjatta
Girls?? .......is that your new interest?
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Santanfara
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Posted - 13 Jan 2009 : 23:32:01
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| jammin, God, Allah or Jah has given us lots of capabilities, if you think dancing is part of that good luck. i guess we have a different views in life, better we accept each others variations.thanks |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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jammin
Jamaica
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Posted - 14 Jan 2009 : 02:03:51
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Originally posted by Santanfara
jammin, God, Allah or Jah has given us lots of capabilities, if you think dancing is part of that good luck. i guess we have a different views in life, better we accept each others variations.thanks
Thanks for that subtle correction.
I am quite aware that all individuals are unique and as such will have different interest and perspective. while I accept your " variation" I am however still mystified by it.
There is much joy in singing and dancing and I will venture to say that both have therapeutic value for the spirit.
David, The king of Israel, so the Bible say, took much delight in the activity of "a song and a dance". I have never been exposed to the Koran, but I would wager that the subject of music and dancing was never mentioned negatively.
So, your expose~ as it relate to your personal preference, have caused me much curiosity and I was hoping that a reason would also been given.
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kayjatta
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Posted - 14 Jan 2009 : 07:10:02
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Originally posted by jammin
This comment I find most interesting, yet saddening
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Originally posted by Santanfara
kay, thanks for showing us the sengalise dance vedio. i don't dance neither encourage it. i sometimes look into traditional msuic and how it evolve but i am not into it to be honest.
I will be the first to admit that I don't know much about the Muslim faith, but, isn't Allah/God who gave man the capacity and gift to sing and dance?
Thus denying yourself that gift, are you not frowning on a gift provided for you by Allah?
Its just a question and I ask it for better understanding.
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Originally posted by kayjatta
Absolutely Santafara! Mbai Gaye and the girls ...
Happy new year Kayjatta
Girls?? .......is that your new interest?
Jammin: Girls have always been my interest. I have decided to settle with one right now and I am very privileged to to have a great woman by my aside for nearly eleven years. However, my eyes still wander around; even the celebrated Gambian Islamic scholar Bun Jeng alluded to this .
I do not want to speak for my "friend", Santafara, but if I may chip in on his behalf: I think that he is not totally against music and dance (any body with a heart and 'soul' cannot afford not to appreciate music ...)but that he appears to be averse to music and dance that has explicit sexual content or exposure of certain (romantic)areas of the body like the one in this video. I have heard an Islamic scholar said that "he/she who moves his/her body (dance) because of the love of Allah and the Prophet shall have a huge reward in the hereafter". So at least some type of music and dance is permitted even by Santafara's standard.
As far as I am concerned, music, particularly can be appreciated emotionally, intellectually or both. When I listen to or watch Senegambian Music (like the one in this video) most of my appreciation of it is emotional, a lot of my country music has to do with intellectual appreciation, while i enjoy reggae both emotionally and intellectually. So I do not restrict myself with regards to what kind of music and dance I will listen to or watch ... |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 14 Jan 2009 : 11:20:17
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Jammin, There are many things me and you agree on and can happily sit side by side and enjoy each others company. I do not blanketly against music. What i stated was a postulation driven by a spiritual world view. If David enjoy music, so said the Bible, i am not a follower of David.I respect him and his contribution to the people of his time and for those who intend to copy him or follow his teachings today.
i do not think it is necessary to get into the nitty gritty of the why's and why not of my not indulging in music.
If it is about the benfits in music, yes i agree. But similarly, there are benefits in smoking, drinking, fornicating, stealing, and many other things we all adhore. The Quran, a book i follow, even made mention of benefits in gambling, devinations, drinking etc, but that the evils outweight the benefits. so if music is terapautic to you, it is not to me.
I respect and appreciate some forms of dignified music. it is up to me to decide what i find appreciative and want i don't.
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