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jambo
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 Posted - 10 Nov 2008 : 10:59:52
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| okay but who was his sister, i have never seen a picture of her, it is all about michelles family, mother in law etc. |
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jambo
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Posted - 10 Nov 2008 : 11:26:18
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my point is this, a lot of "important people" endorse him, it was not an "Obama" o nhis own show, i do not believe that his endorsement by the kennedys did not help, do NOT BELIEVE THE HYPE, that family alone is worth millions of votes
secondly, did it harm to have Oprah in his corner
thirdly, Colin powell, another powerful endorsement,
IT WAS NOT ALL ABOUT THE DOLLARS THAT WAS SPENT. .
I hope he invites more of his blood relatives to the inaugration |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 10 Nov 2008 : 11:46:18
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lets hope he does the following
clean water for the developing countries,
achievine universal primary education, HE SHOULD BE SIGNING the education for all act, reversing spread of HIV/AIDS and TB, it is written that he will double the annual foreign assistance from $25b to $50bn. THIS IS ON TOP OF THE INTERNAL issues he has to address.
njucks, it is good to disagree, because i make an observation that other people have said/thought. I do not think the kennedys, oprah, jay-z and colin powell would have come out so family/lots of crowd for HILARY CLINTON, yes the local did give small amounts, but do not believe that large donations were made. HIS VICE PRESIDENT was selling his time for $25,000 per hour
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 10 Nov 2008 : 13:31:09
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Thanks jammin. This is the point i was missing from all the miracles –Obamanie topics.
He is elected by American and i think this should be also his 1 priority. Even his own grandma is not expecting nothing much from him except prosperity, only friend of his father wish an American Keck’s 
My motto: Don’t expect too much help from some ones, stand up on your own feet and you will be succeeds, Believe in yourself and see no barrier or stumbling blocks on your road. Stand firm with your ambition even if some says is not the right direction.
remaind yourself that you ware firstly lying as baby, then sitting- crawl-walking then I don’t know why you can’t also run.
If you want bee succeed then forget about skin colour just know you are human capable of everything.
I wish /pray and with great hopes for securing peace and prosperity for heterogeneous world.
But lets wait and seen because there no real foreseen in politics.
But am with great content by missing one face and that is the DREAD-G.W Bush and his co.Even though he do more for African than some before him.
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Originally posted by jammin
I am still trying to figure what the hoopla is about with Obama being the first Black President of the US. The near hysteria with which the world and Africans in particular greeted the news of his election has simply eluded me..... I don't get it.
For me, the question of skin color will always be relegated to the furthest recess of priority, while being exceedingly mindful of the capacity of the individual elected to lead. I have been asking myself these question, Is Obama capable of leading? Is Obama the President of the USA? or is he a skillfully marketed Proxy for the real power brokers?
I believe that these are some of the questions that need to be answered truthfully, before going into a frenzied wild abandonment about the election of a Black President.
A lot of Black people are under the delusion that an Obama's Presidency mean that US aid to their respective countries will begin to flow like Manna from heaven while others see it as " visa unlimited". to the US. Its a pity that they will soon get a reality check.
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 10 Nov 2008 : 17:47:58
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Originally posted by jambo
okay but who was his sister, i have never seen a picture of her, it is all about michelles family, mother in law etc.
Ofcourse his sister was always there. She campaigned for him too bit towards the end, she was the Caregiver to Grandma.
Well i am sure you know the defintion of family in the west. Its the spouse and children. The rest must keep a distance. May i remind you of Bristish saying: Two is company, three is a crowd" |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 10 Nov 2008 : 19:58:22
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Jammin I have heard the conspiracy theories too about Obama. But my response to them so far is WHATEVER!. The mere fact being that since 6/11/08 there has been a psychological shift which has affected the global community reaffirming the affirmation Change we need! We can Change, Change need we! Yes we can! Change things and it takes all of us to do it starting off with changes we make within ourselves, collectively, as nation and as world, Now many off us included myself never had it on my radar that an African America would become President of the US because of the racism within that nation. But one change that most people would agree is that out of Macain and Obama the best candidate won. Obama's electioneering strategy was fantastic based on the pardner strategy which was commonly used in Jamaica and Obama's colleague in Chicago a Jamaican suggested he used it when he
launched his campaign.
Obama also used Advocacy Coalition targeting different interest groups who all had one thing in common the need for change the end to Republican rule. Jammin, yes i do think that Obama has the capability to effectively govern the US. Come on when you compare the incumbent with Obama no wonder the US is in a mess,
I agree with you that Obama is President of the United States of America it is his duty to serve all Americans including those who didn't vote for him.
If there is one thing I think the US could assist Africa with capacity building of the African Union and make it stronger by bringing in the necessary checks and balances to safe guard African citizens. By amending the African Union's constitution to facilitate an elected arm of pan-continental government that is accountable to the people, and a fixed term for African Presidents. For me Obama is an inspiration because he has got where he is on the most powerful seat of power in the world (albeit just about) through hard work, determination, persistence with a purpose. He raised his campaign money of $548.000 000 from the people and employed lawyers in every polling station across America knowing full well that his opponents could go to any lengths to sabotage his campaign.
History in the making is exhilarating and for the African story it has been a long time coming for Africans and the world change has come! Time is of the essence to ring out the changes. So, what are we going to do with this opportunity? If we want change than we have to become the change we want to be, and it starts with yes we can!Free from fear!
peace
Sister Omega
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 10 Nov 2008 20:02:34 |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 10 Nov 2008 : 20:02:38
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Sister,
the last count was $700,000,000.00 being money raised. The fianl tally is not in yet. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Nov 2008 : 20:38:46
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"....By amending the African Union's constitution to facilitate an elected arm of pan-continental government that is accountable to the people, and a fixed term for African Presidents."
Lot of good sense there Sister Omega. Well stated.
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 10 Nov 2008 : 21:41:21
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Jambo,
Obama's story is unique in that he is not typical of any steroetype. kenyan father, white mother (irish roots), born in Hawaii,raised in Indonesia, in the US senate for short period, elected President. he is probably the only chap on earth with those credentials!
fine, that would raise eye brows whatever race he belonged to.
anyway as you may be aware , his mother later married an indonesain fellow and they had a daughter. that's the child i was refering to as Obama's sister. shes a teacher now and she was on the campaign with him all along. even gave some speeches during the nominations at the convention i think.
i think if Obama didnt run his capaign based on race he would not run his presidency on race either.
the bottom line is, whatever he wants to do, he has to get the money to do it, and to get that money he can start by ending a senseless war.
even if you look at the financial crisis, money is not the problem, the amount of money that has been ''injected'' by politicians (they enjoying every minute, since they can blame someone else ) is perhaps not a lot to you, but for us in the dev. world its outstanding. yet the crisis remains. the experts mentions ''confidence'' and ''uncertainty'' as if these can be only be fixed by more money.
perhaps a good leader can provide ''confidence'' and ''certainty'' that for FREE.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 10 Nov 2008 : 21:47:40
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But one change that most people would agree is that out of Macain and Obama the best candidate won. Obama's electioneering strategy was fantastic based on the pardner strategy which was commonly used in Jamaica and Obama's colleague in Chicago a Jamaican suggested he used it when he
launched his campaign.
I am not sure about that. Certainly Obama has better charisma and he is smart but McCain lost due to Dubya's being much below avarage. Obama should thank to Bush who is one of the worst president of American History. (Bush approval rate was 20s % and lower than Nixon). If Bush did a avarage job, the result would be much closer or even McCain would have won. The margin of victory would be much slimmer. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 10 Nov 2008 : 22:46:18
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Jammin,
I think President Obama's presidency and the happiness across Africa is more of the fact that most Africans see One that looks likes them becoming the world's most powerful man not like you think.
Look the world now is so muck aware of realities that any African would think an Obama presidency would mean flow of aid or visas across the continent.Those are just mare falacies! if your thoughts of African expectations of an Obama presidency is any thing to go by.
Its not only Africa that took an Obama presidency with joys and jubulations Asia,and even some parts of Europe view Obama as a symbol of hope and peace.
I don't understand some of the comments made and I wonder how do some people come to such conclusion that those are Africans expectations from an Obama presidency.
I belief all Africa needs is to go past the tribal,ethinic and religious divisions work together for a common goal.
Leaders too should bear in mind that staying too long in power breeds discontent and corruption.
Africa should come up with a mechanism where one-party rule would be abolished for ever and there would be checks and balances between varrious government institutions.
Military coups be banned and overcomed across the entire continent.
Dictators removed with the help of the entire effort of all Africans.
The dismantling of the leaders club (AU)to be replaced with a more serious African High Authoritywhich will be committed to Africa's emmancipation from self distruction.
With these in place and implimented, Africa would not need Obama's aid or visas instead Obama would need Africa's aid. |
Edited by - Janyanfara on 10 Nov 2008 22:51:36 |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2008 : 09:07:54
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sister omega ON THE BUTTON AGAIN,
" there is one thing I think the US could assist Africa with capacity building of the African Union and make it stronger by bringing in the necessary checks and balances to safe guard African citizens. By amending the African Union's constitution to facilitate an elected arm of pan-continental government that is accountable to the people, and a fixed term for African Presidents.2 UNLESS THIS ISSUE IS ADDRESS IT WILL GO AROUND IN A LOOP.
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jammin
Jamaica
149 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2008 : 17:13:49
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Obama also used Advocacy Coalition targeting different interest groups who all had one thing in common the need for change the end to Republican rule.
I am in agreement with change. However The Actions of Obama are in total contradiction with his word. take the issue of Public financing; The man said he was for public financing, yet did an about face. Whatever the reason, he had taken a principled position, then offered an excuse why he reneged. There are also multiple instances where he allude to what his Presidency would be like, and i will tell you, they are not about change. There are many clips on youtube to validate my comment,I have seen some, but you can ask TURK, am sure he will supply you with links.
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Jammin, yes i do think that Obama has the capability to effectively govern the US. Come on when you compare the incumbent with Obama no wonder the US is in a mess,
No question, Obama was the more mentally nimble of two, and mccain was not reassuring either, but the Republicans had a valid question in asking about Obama's depth( or lack thereof) as it relates to leadership skills. Another example of Obama's flip-flop tendency is how quickly he jettisoned his friendship with his pastor of 20 years and spiritual adviser. In world affairs where cooperation is essential, will he be operating likewise if he was to come under pressure from one country,turning his back on an ally, because it appear to be in his best interest? That would not be a change. Little things like the above are clues to the real Obama. Mark my word
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
History in the making is exhilarating and for the African story it has been a long time coming for Africans and the world change has come
peace
Sister Omega
I would rather have a purple leader, who remained on principle, while advocating justice for all, than a black one,who it appear has shattered the glass ceiling, but whose advocacy did not articulate a way forward for the disenfranchised in his society. |
Like a colossus He doth bestride the Narrow World |
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jammin
Jamaica
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Posted - 11 Nov 2008 : 17:25:51
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Originally posted by Janyanfara
Jammin,
I think President Obama's presidency and the happiness across Africa is more of the fact that most Africans see One that looks likes them becoming the world's most powerful man not like you think.......
The original post had little to do with Africa, outside of the hoopla generated by Obama's victory. If Black people feel a sense of victory, then it should be those that are the descendants of a slave trade. They are the ones who fought the battles of 500 years of slavery. |
Like a colossus He doth bestride the Narrow World |
Edited by - jammin on 12 Nov 2008 05:08:06 |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 11 Nov 2008 : 22:10:09
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thank you sister Omega.
I belief change for Africa has to come from within and not the other way round.
You have indeed well spoken. |
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