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BornAfrican
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 Posted - 07 Jul 2008 : 20:04:52
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Njucks,
you are very rational on this issue. infact, i was forced to write after reading yous posting. i saw so much sense in it and i felt obliged to uphold it. thanx |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 : 05:41:30
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| amin. good points born africa |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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BornAfrican
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 : 13:31:04
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amin. good points born africa
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Turk, you see we Africa needs a leader like Mustapha Kamal Ataturk. He is certainly one fo the greatest men that ever walked on the face of this earth. Inspirational, revolutionary, visionary, a clairvoyant statesman Kamal Ataturk was.
this past European cup of nations, i picked a lot of interest in the way Turkey played. someone asked why the turks had so much oomph. i asked him to read the history of that nation and maybe he will see why. "there is so much self pride put in the turks by thir father, Kamal Ataturk, i said to the man". they fight for the reflection of the star and the moon in the Turkish blood.
oh how i wish if Kamal could wake up just for one decade and give that pride to us Africans. |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 : 14:21:45
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| nice comments. born african. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 : 16:06:03
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Born,
..... human rights in Africa cannot be measured by how well '' Africans dance to the Western tunes''
you only have to read between the lines to see the racism especially here in the Bantaba. one British wrote here, '' how he/she finds Mugabe as racist as the people he liberated his country from.? amazing, Mugabe is as racist as Ian Smith, fine, yet the problem in Zimbawbe, and the British reaction to it is not about race and land? i have never seen such silly arguments before.
The long term impact of this UK campaign will backfire as it will simply to elevate the level of anti-Western resentment in Africa and this would only affect their own people who chose to live and work in Africa. mistrust or distrust is what will exist towards europeans in Africa...
the key to dealing with Europe in the long term is to remain unitied. Nothing comes out of defying the West/Western hypocrisy. the Arabs did it in 1973.
its the only language they understand.
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 : 17:00:12
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Thanks to All contributors and interesting exchanges! How can we deal with whats has been exposed in watching this video courtesy of Guardian newspaper website under:-
Zimbabwe election: The stolen ballots
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2008/jul/04/election.zimbabwe |
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 09:41:56
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Born African, ain't we all born African?
Blame the British and the West, blame Mugabe or Mbeki or white and black farmers and who pays the ultimate price? The Zimbawian people. Mugabe did not notice a pinch in his feet on what is happening to his people, does he?
We can blame the whole world, but at the end of the day you have to look at what is in the best interest of the people going forward. Yes, we can talk about the horrible past all we want, but until civility, respect for human rights and food and sanity is provided to the people of Zimbawe nothing can change.
So please let us all stop crying for a minute and see what next for the poor people of this great nation.
Britain and Mugabe and everyone else have their share of the blame, and so what is there for the people? The people voted for change regardless of where it came from. Let that change be and let Mugabe not take along the rest of Zimbawe to his shallow grave.
Decent people don't keep crying foul for ever and ever. At some point they should stop crying and do frekking something about their human race being wiped out. What is more explicit than that??????   |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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MeMe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 10:23:11
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Finally a voice of reason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now just wait for the fall-out from the usual bunch  |
It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 13:04:33
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Usual bunch,don't know what you mean
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 13:13:57
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| Ning Iyeala wullou faatingo faa dooh ta sii kiing |
Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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MeMe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Jul 2008 : 14:57:09
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Originally posted by toubab1020
Usual bunch,don't know what you mean
May I borrow the tin hat please  |
It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jul 2008 : 15:39:44
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Hello Africa, look, you most listen or perish
“The blame game” is just a hallucination; wake up from the delirium it would not help.
Africa has no feature without the wonderful humanitarian gesture of colonialism, every aspect of it is glorious that is why Africans most listen, they know what is good for Africa PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love colonialism; these wild Africans need some civilization and Christianity in their blood. I become nostalgic when I recall the British war in the Falklands, Iraq; they risked the lives of their sons and daughters all for the love and in the name of peace, human dignity and democracy. Com on Africa tell me how you doing
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Jul 2008 : 15:48:40
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Originally posted by MeMe
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Originally posted by toubab1020
Usual bunch,don't know what you mean
May I borrow the tin hat please
Yep,jump into the trench,its a bit wet though its been raining! |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Jul 2008 : 15:50:14
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Originally posted by Janko
Hello Africa, look, you most listen or perish
“The blame game” is just a hallucination; wake up from the delirium it would not help.
Africa has no feature without the wonderful humanitarian gesture of colonialism, every aspect of it is glorious that is why Africans most listen, they know what is good for Africa PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love colonialism; these wild Africans need some civilization and Christianity in their blood. I become nostalgic when I recall the British war in the Falklands, Iraq; they risked the lives of their sons and daughters all for the love and in the name of peace, human dignity and democracy. Com on Africa tell me how you doing
No No No far too radical  Get down quick, a large stone is heading your way |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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BornAfrican
United Kingdom
119 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jul 2008 : 03:29:33
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DBaldeh>> Born African, ain't we all born African?
BornAfrican>> Dbaldeh, we are the African tribe, yes we are all Born Africans. I chose that name not because i am more African than you. its just a choice and affirming my pride.
DBaldeh>> Blame the British and the West, blame Mugabe or Mbeki or white and black farmers and who pays the ultimate price? The Zimbawian people. Mugabe did not notice a pinch in his feet on what is happening to his people, does he?
BornAfrican>> Who pays the ultimate price you ask? its the Zimbabweans. You see, i would have been happier if you apply a little bit of common sense to this issue. The situation in Zimbabwe is not wholly created by Mugabe. what are you talking about blaming British, the West Mugabe or Mbeki? are they not the major players in this issue? they control the game, why should they not be blamed. i think you have to reread what you wrote. The ordinary Zimbabweans are the ones paying the price, paying the price for something not their making. Dbaldeh, you have to know that the game plan is to starve Zimbabweans so that they call for a change. the same plan was used in Iraq. what happened in there? millions of children were starved to death and in the end they were wasted with brute force.
Dbaldeh>> We can blame the whole world, but at the end of the day you have to look at what is in the best interest of the people going forward. Yes, we can talk about the horrible past all we want, but until civility, respect for human rights and food and sanity is provided to the people of Zimbawe nothing can change.
BornAfrican>> I don't think you understand why we are all writing at this Bantaba. if you don't understand, let me awaken you: 'it is for the Interest of Zimbabweans dying in that country that we are writing'.
DBaldeh>>So please let us all stop crying for a minute and see what next for the poor people of this great nation.
BornAfrican>>Dbaldeh, who is crying here on the Bantaba? i only hear those kind of Africans behaving immature to the West and not having that self belief that we Africans have to shoulder our ordeals.
please get to this link and enlighten yourself: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2008/07/200871211624827539.html
atlast, common sense has overriden that of wickedness and selfishness. We are all fighting for Zimbabweans because we are all Africans and above all, we are all human. my point has been how britain has created a situation that they use to safeguard their interest. did you see Zimbabweans protesting in London two days back? they have no rights to work here in England and yet still Britain is crying for them. Atlast, China and Russia has spoken to us that we have to solve our own problems.
Dbaldeh>>Britain and Mugabe and everyone else have their share of the blame, and so what is there for the people? The people voted for change regardless of where it came from. Let that change be and let Mugabe not take along the rest of Zimbawe to his shallow grave.
BornAfrican>> Yes, Zimbabweans voted for change. did you ever fight for Kenyans this hard to bring about changes in their country? you know why you lot did not talk about the situation in Kenya? its simply because the Superior Britain did not make an issue out of it. the situation in Kenya was more violent than that in Zimbabwe and yet still Britain fought for a government of national unity. it was clear that the oposition won the election in Kenya but what happened in the end? the thing is that we are all Africans. we want to see decency. Zimbabwe's problem is an African one. Our leaders are the ones who should solve the problem, but they are all the same corrupt type so they cannot talk to Mugabe. Dbaldeh, the situation in Zimbabwe is artificial. it was created to bring about the mess that they are in today.
Dbaldeh>> Decent people don't keep crying foul for ever and ever. At some point they should stop crying and do frekking something about their human race being wiped out. What is more explicit than that??????
BornAfrican>> Brother, you cannot preach decency to anyone here. Don't even go there. who is crying foul? you need to open up your brain and go over my writings. You are the kinda weak africans who cannot speak out for themselves. so weak that you have to let others think for you. i'm not that type. Like Tupac once said: "i am not saying i can change the world, but i can point out thing that need to be changed".
you can never correct the present without looking into the past. go back and do your assignment on not only Zimbabwe but the entire Africa and how she and her natives are being played by outside forces. |
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