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toubab1020
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 Posted - 09 Jun 2008 : 14:40:35
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Any Comments from Bantaba Members?
http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/2008/6/9/central-bank-set-to-tackle-money-laundering
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Monday, June 09, 2008
The Central Bank of the Gambia has undertaken restructuring and reorganisation measures geared towards fighting against money laundering by setting up a Financial Intelligence Unit at the bank.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kaanibaa
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jun 2008 : 15:31:22
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| At a glance one sees a prudent economic move on the part of the CBG. What remains to be seen is the modus of implementation of all these laws ,especially the sprouting of all kinds of security/intelligence units which could at times be counter productive , chasing off potential investors wary of too much state interference in all matters .There is no doubt that every country needs to secure itself and most importantly in the security of national finances and financial operational apparatus thus need some sort of surveillance to avoid sinking us all.Too many cooks surely spoil the broth!Hey man! we do have the Big Brother syndrome every where though; take a look at the CCTV mode in UK .This now speaks volumes on spying of the citizenry even if the intent is deemed honorable, it makes one feel stalked and watched none stop.Can you beat this? |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 09 Jun 2008 : 16:36:15
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I agree,MOST people are honest,the UK model that you speak about is a case of the government wanting to know EVERYTHING, and of course saving money on not employing more police on the street,I am told that in the UK that there has been a case of a local council using survaillence on parents to find out if they really lived where they said they did,because the council thought that they only said they lived at a particular place in order to get their child into a good school ,the powers that they used were (allegedly! )designed by the government to gain information on terrorists ,councils can get phone records and a lot of other stuff,ID cards with chips(not cut up fried potatoes either!! ) are supposed to be coming next,if you carry this ID card,experts say that it can be read by a scanner that could be placed on the street!BIG BROTHER for sure!
Everyone will no longer have a name just a string of numbers and symbols to identify them.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Edited by - toubab1020 on 09 Jun 2008 16:40:23 |
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kaanibaa
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jun 2008 : 16:43:55
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| So brutus said; they are all honorable men.I rest my case sine die. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 09 Jun 2008 : 17:24:42
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| Smashing, I like that!!! |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Jack
Belgium
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Posted - 10 Jun 2008 : 09:08:58
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Toubab,
In Belgium we have ID-cards for decades and since a couple of years ID-cards with a chip where all information is on for identification: place of birth, date of birth, adress, social security number, maritial status, children and so on.
And yes these ID card can be read by a card reader within the local administrations, banks, pc-banking, hospitals, etc.
I think this is very easy. No need to fill in a million times the same elemenentary information on registration forms.
I don't see it as a big brohther society. Of coarse it has to be used in a proper way within a certain framework and with respect on the privicy of the individual.
Only those who have to hide something are against it i suppose. :) |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 10 Jun 2008 : 12:05:11
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| Jack,I understand all that you have said and very useful too but my thoughts are that is the ID card really about helping the ordinary person to live an easer life and have LIMITED information available about a person to those who should have access to it OR is it about CONTROL of the population,I am by no means a member of "the left" but how are you to know what information is held on the ID chip issued to you by some government department? It is a fact that almost all information held about people is on computer now in western countries and computers can talk to one another.If governments were GENUINE about what information would be held on an ID card then as you say no problems BUT its too great an opportunity for the politicians to miss not to obtain EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYBODY,that is really what I think is bad about computerised id cards. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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inez
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Posted - 10 Jun 2008 : 15:39:36
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| We have social security number for every person and that is also shown in your id card, driving license and so on. You canīt do a thing without that (some exceptions...) and different authorities can get different information about you with that number. There is also laws that prevent that information to be passed between authorities anyhow and they use specifik secured programs. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 10 Jun 2008 : 16:00:40
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[quote]Originally posted by inez
We have social security number for every person ......... also laws that prevent that information to be passed between authorities anyhow and they use specifik secured programs.
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Do you believe all that you are told by the authorities ? Do these cards that are already in use have a computer chip in them? or are they just plastic cards with printing on? |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Edited by - toubab1020 on 10 Jun 2008 16:04:49 |
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inez
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Posted - 11 Jun 2008 : 15:32:33
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| Yes T1020, Iīm stupid...actually, Iīve worked for covernment, at the office for social security and because of that has the experience, and know for sure that everyone is not allowed to see everything, itīs impossible since the info is blocked! There are laws that protect citizens and people working with the information are watched by big brother...you can loose your job if you as a employeed check out things that you donīt need for your job. No,no computer chip on them... |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Jun 2008 : 15:49:24
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Inez, no one said you were stupid,the system that you discribe would be fine and safeguards are built in No chip great no problem yes I would have one of those cards for sure.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Jack
Belgium
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Posted - 11 Jun 2008 : 15:54:19
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Toubab,
To your information : there is a chip in our ID-cards and the new international passports are chipped to. No chip (yet) in the social security cards.
Even our dogs have/needed a chip (placed in the neck, under the skin) so that the vets can identify the dog and can see who is the owner
chippy country dont you think so ? lol
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Jun 2008 : 18:20:43
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Too many "chips" will make you overweight!!
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 12 Jun 2008 : 19:55:16
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All this without ID cards! have a look.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7431919.stm |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Edited by - toubab1020 on 12 Jun 2008 19:56:14 |
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