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badala1968
Gambia
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 Posted - 08 Apr 2006 : 03:46:51
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Gatekeeper,
Thanks you for your part in the Artile On Mr. Deen.I know Abdou Deen very wel.He studied In the state for 8 years ,after completing his Masters in Accounting.He left to go and contributes to Economic growth of our Dear Land.In fact he left Atlanta 4 months ago visiting his wife.
He is a man of Principles and I would not hestitate to tell you that his side of the story is most believeble.Working under Yahya Jammeh's regime would not means Everyone is like him.All Gambia knows that Yahya Is a Dictator,still there are few good one who are working with him and wanting to make some Changes.
Correction needed to be made,Mr. Deen is in Burkina Faso not in Senegal.He left Gambia on friday March 24th to attend an official mission in Guinea bissau,He left Bissau Tuesday for Burkina faso.Now he stood complating wheather to go back or not.He had a lot to loose when he don't go back. When he go back he would be in the Hands of a Dictator with court marshall where you are foud Guilty before trail and murder before the Prelimary Hearing.
Fellow gambians Our Noble land is in Danger.Our Interluctual are all in custody.Our Soilders is Getting killed everyday,without not going to war.
What can we do. [I HAVE CHERISH THE IDEA OF DEMODRATIC AND FREE SOCIETY,IT'S AN IDEA WHICH I WILL LIVE FOR AND DIE FOR. (Nelson Mandela) |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Apr 2006 : 08:02:55
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| Not only is Abdou Deen a victim but all Gambians are victims of Jammeh's nefarious actions, system of self-imposition as yhe most eligible son to rule Gambia and who would no cmpromise any challenge to his authority and a paranoid dictator. This is one of those typical cases of why the brain drain is affecting Africa. The leagers always pretend that they need technocrats and in their overseas tours appeal for citizens to return home and contibute to the development process as they are assured of opportunities. However you would end up being dragged into politics and end up victimised and demoralised at home. Abdou your version of the story is very convincing in my opinion but make sure to make a sober reflection before returning home. Human rights abuse is rampant and not safe to return as there is no justice system to defend or protect you. Look at Dibba;s predicament amonst others. |
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badala1968
Gambia
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Posted - 08 Apr 2006 : 20:54:58
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Now Gambians My question is how safe it is to make investment home?When nothing is Safe under the eye of a Dictator.Knowing Abdou deen and what he had been doing in the Gambia for the Past 10 years is all flossing into yahya's ignorance.
We all left the Gambia for green pasture hoping one day to return there and feel like you back at home.Enjoy friends and our lovely extended families>Now how can we.The entire country is Scared and in total darkness.Oh Gambian what went wrong.The lovely gambia,What had happen? |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 09 Apr 2006 : 02:34:39
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| What happen has happen already as Jammeh has criminalise the civil service and corrupt all organs of government i.e Executive, Legislative and Judiciary. Furthermore really people live in fear of his agents and the Police, Arm Forces and National Intellegence Agency are sub-servient to him to protect ONLY HIM and not promote national interests' without fear and favour. When he seized power from Jawara many thought he would promote national development projects better than Jawara through ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY and DEMOCRACY, which he advocated with promising speeches over and over again; becoming very popular during the hey days of Jammeh's coup. He rally overwhelming trust and support from Gmabians as the young pretender. However POWER CORRUPTS as now Jammeh is a self-imposed dictator 100% and a terrorist to any opponent to his ideals. There is always arbitary arrests, torture, detention and other mysterious operations done illegally against the populace and Gambian community. Law and order is not working because of his divide and rule policy and average Ganbians are petrified of challenging his authority as now the country has been high-jacked under his domain to rule in anyway he deemed fit. Poverty is on the increase as the economy is not working because cost of living is very high nowadays. However "Gambian wait and see attitude?" is still the order of the day. |
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badala1968
Gambia
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Posted - 09 Apr 2006 : 08:38:58
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AS THE SAYING GOES IN MANDINGO
MINNING MINNING TAFAL TAFAL TONYA LA BE LABANNA
It's sad to say that one day our sons and daughters, have to open their History book and finds Yahya Jammeh as a President.
Lets all pray for that day that Gambians would smell Democracy and Rule of Law.That day Hon General Dr Yahya J.J. Jammeh or what ever title be crown on him would face Justice Like Charles Taylor,Indicted and sentence to Kanila Prison for CRIMES OF HUMANITY>That day he and all his Military Juntas would feel the same way other families are feeling now.
This stories comming from Gambia lately are unBelievable and very uncomfortable.
Thanks you all readers I always lose it when talking about Gambia and the Present Political episode.
I have cherished the idea of a democratic and feel society.It's an idea,which I will live for and die for.](Nelson Mandela)
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Apr 2006 : 09:11:21
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| Badaala 1968 please don't get panic as we cherished some of our good traditional, cultural values, customary or religious values to maintain discipline, social order and continue our normal daily lives as peace loving peoples'. However the constitution is not working because of lack of political and civil rights, the power struggle and high level of corruption of the government; civil service, local authority, police and arm forces being manned by few elites and 'true sons and daughters' of the nation being enslaved and being used as stooges by a dictator and sycophants rallying under APRC. Lets hope that this era is doomed and next generation live up to expectations to change the system for peace, progress, prosperity and stability. |
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badala1968
Gambia
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Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 03:37:25
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kOBO
I am very Panic right now,For I did a lot of investment in the Gambia ,and the way things are,I don't really know.reflecting on Mr.Abdou Deen's present suituation and all he had loosen in the Gambia alarmed me very well.His wife Rohey Touray was soppossed to live for Gambia on the 24th march 2006.Now she cannot, and from reliable source in the Gambia they (NIA)have gone to their compound twice to arrest her.What can She do Now?
Abdou Deen's two cars were all Impounded from his Compound.One of the car was bought in Atlanta when he was finally going back.That car is now under The Dictator's custody.It's just crazy.Now Alieu Jobe is said to be Dead under heavy Beating.Alieu Jobe is Abdou Deen's Boss at Ministery of Finance.
Where is the America Government and all this so called human right organisation.Where is democracy and it's Watch dogs.Gambia really needs some help.
I HAVE CHERISHED THE IDEA OF DEMOCRACY AND FREE SOCIETY,IT'S AN ISEA WHICH I HOPE TO LIVE WITH AND DIE FOR.(NELSON MENDALA) |
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salimina
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Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 16:58:02
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| Badala, calm down i dont think it will reach that stage. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 18:13:25
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| Generally average gambians don't bother about coscription of justice, human rights abuse and the tense political situatiom some of us are very sensitive to as normal life and stability still exist at home. Gambia is very different from other countries within the sub-region taht experience these crises with massive destruction of property and other losses. Be calm as your investments are safe. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 18:34:15
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Badala1968
Do not look up to America for help. Gambians have to solve Gambian problems. Unless we stand up and show th world that we mean business, no body will care. Charity begins at home and this is why i say Gambians deserve yaya. In reality Gambians want yaya in power because they elected him twice. Until the silent majority changes their mind, do not expect any change on the ground.
Why should americans sacrifice their sons and daughters for us. Dont we have sons and daughters in the gambia. I hate foreign interventions in any form. Local resistance is more sustainable than foreign occupation. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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salimina
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Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 18:39:42
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| Kon, thats always my line of thought. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 18:52:15
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Gambians want other people to die for them. That is not going to happen. Even in other conflicts, nations are only willing to put their citizens in harms way if there is any national interest or gain for them. What do we have to offer the world- Peanuts. Besides we are not growing enough these days to suffice for local consumption. Even MBUDAKEH is expensive beacsue of peanut butter.
Gambians have to rise up and defend what they believe in. No one will do it for us. We claim to be a sovereign nation. There are expectaions that we must fulfill and that includes being capable of bringing about change and developemnt on our terms. No MADIW will come to help us. We have to solve our own problems. Musa traore was pushed out by the women of Mali through series of demonstrations. Some died but they atleast got rid of him. Mali is the only example in Africa where women forced a sitting president from power.
We are all capable of bringing about change if we want to. Right now GAMBIANS ARE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH YAYA AND THEY DO NOT WANT TO TO SEE HIM GO. THIS IS THE HARD REALITY. ONLY A SMALL MINORITY WANT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT AND THE STRUGGLE IS AN UP-HILL BATTLE. COME NOVEMBER, YAYA WILL SWEEP THE POLLS. DEMOCRACY HAS ITS OWN WEAKNESSES BUT IT IS THE ONLY WORKABLE SYTEM FOR NOW. SOMETIMES THE MAJORITY IS WRONG BUT IN A DEMOCRACY, THEY ARE RIGHT. IN THE KINGDOM OF THE BLIND, ONE EYE IS THE KING. IN THE GAMBIA WHERE MORE THAN 70% OF THE POPULATION HAVE NO IDEA HOW A GOVERNMENT IS RUN, IT IS EASY TO PULL WOOL OVER THEIR EYES. YOU CAN TELL PEOPLE TO GO TO HELL AND THEY WILL LOK FORWARD TO IT. THE ROAD OF IGNORANCE LEADS TO A CITY OF SELF DESTRUCTION. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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salimina
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Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 18:59:47
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| And the most annoying thing about gambians is, those that we are trying to wane from the captivity of poverty are the very ones who will tell you that God created MANSA and lets wait till his time is up.Then in the longrun we will all die of starvation.Jammeh is good for the gambia.We created him lets wait till his time up. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 19:11:54
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You see salimina, there are very few people in the Gambia who really understand the Quran. There is an advise for muslims to respect their leaders. However the type of leaders being talked about are those wo rule based on the shariah where public wealth is for the common good, justice is dispensed without favour, corruption is not acceptable, even hihger intersts are considered RIBBAH.
There was a story of a Caliph who aplied the shariah on his son and did not hesitate that justice is done. Those leaders are not rich, or fat or line thir pockets with public wealth.
Sometimes, i have this feeling that the west has all the attributes of a true Muslim leader. The difference is we only have the text and do not practice it. There is no doubt that there is corruption in the west, but to alarge extent they are more commited to their people and more sincere. Every strata of society is catered for. You just need to know how the system works. Even those unemployed can get some allowance. Tell that to our leaders.
We complain of being poor but we are rich. In 1994, as part of my graduate programme, we visited the ACP Secreatariat in Brussels. Guess what, their major problem is parking space. Reps. from Developing countries where driving the most expensive cars and even ran out of space to park. When we went to the British government representatives office to the ACP, we saw very small two door cars and very old indeed. parking was not a problem A lot of them use the train to work. yet they have money to donate us. Infact the head of the ACP secratariat was an African. Our University booked an apointment with him three months in advance before we left the UK and it was okayed. This was a class of more 20 stuents. When we arrived at the office he was too busy to see us and did not delegate anyone to meet us. We only had basic questions for our development studies project. We saw many staff who were there for over 18 years and certainly very competent to talk to us. But in Africa the big boss is every thing. We left for England without meeting our objective and no one would speak to us because they were never told about the visist. Over 40, 000 pounds was wasted for nothng. It was the biggest embarassment of my life since then and i hate to talk about it.
Another example was when we went to Strassbourg when France was taking the presidency of the European Union, African students were expecting armored cars and machine guns to escort Mitterand to the EU Parliament. We stood looking for a semblace of that kind of escort. Infact he passed right before our eyes and we did not notice. Some one asked did he come, and some one said yes and pointed to his car. It was a Renault that even our permanent secrataries will not like to drive. I even had to take a photo of the car to show it to friends in the Gambia.
We have a culture of waste. period. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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salimina
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Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 19:26:03
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Yes kon, we think a lot about the quran.I always tell people that when we talking about modern economy lets froget about the quran because they are incompatible.Our system of governance is contarary to islamic principles.
For whites, i respect them.All their riches is not true labour. They manipulate a lot from the so called third world countries.But look at how they manage it.Even if you are not working you can live comfortably. I envie them for that.
No doubt they only represent 17-18 percent of the world population but they are overwhelming responsible for setting the global agenda, for determining what is discussed and what is not.We are just spectators and if we dont mind we will stay like that till the end. |
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