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Momodou
Denmark
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 Posted - 13 Mar 2006 : 21:22:11
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Do you have an idea why the district boundries are drawn the way they are in The Gambia?
I know for sure that Niani covers more than the current district of Niani. People in Sami District term themselves as Nianinkas. The many villages are called Niani such as Niani Bani, Niani Kunting, Niani Karantaba, Niani Salikene and many more.
I also know from oral history that Niani extended from Kataba (somewhere in current Upper Badibu) to the Sandu bolong. It also included Kunguel and Ndungusine in Senegal.
However, I can't find any thing in the history books about this.
According to Francis Moore´s map (1732), Niani was byfar the largest Kingdom along the Gambia River. The western boundary was somewhere along the creek strectching from west of Carrol Wharf to Panchang. West of the creek we have Bati Khai, Bati jamagen, bati Yungo, leba Amat Jallow, Panchang Wharf town and Panchang Sancha Taba. East of the creek we have Kerewan (north of Carrol Wharf), Sare Alpha, Njai Kunda and Tuba Madadi. The eastern boundary goes to today´s Sami. According to the same sketch Nackway which is interpreted as Nyakoi was part of Upper Nyani extending way into present Senegal.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 14 Mar 2006 : 00:09:54
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I am not offay with this question. I have been told that there was a strong ruler in Niania called Kemintang Camara who fought his enemies with bees. I do not what became of him and where he lived. it may be worth some research.
Niani is now smaller and i believe it may have something to do with Cameroom when the british reduced the size of the Gambia to the French to gain more lands around Nigeria hence the war between nIgeria and Cameroon i think in Bamenda. Cameroon is both English and French speaking. Sami seems recent and more predominant during the colonial period. Infact Demfai was the seat of the Travelling Magistrate from Georgetown. May be the Jawlas who ruled Sandu and the Kommas from Manna may know something. |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 17 Mar 2006 : 01:55:29
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Was it niani or fulladu/I think Niani was second largest because Fulladu under Alpha Molloh,(Father of Musa Molloh) had his kingdom starting from Amdanllai in senegal through to sare patteh in near Kantora.He had a convenant with the then ruler of Jarra, jasseh who had his base at Badume(latter a small settlement near Tikogi[a hill near Bureng]),Mansa Buray sanneh of Jimara who had his capital at Suma kunda,He borders the king of kantora kewuleng Sanyang who had his capital at Sun kunda(Koring San san),.
Maybe your story is true but How far then were the Kingdoms Saloum,Sami and WuliAs these were the known kingdoms that borders Niani.
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 17 Mar 2006 : 01:59:45
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| Certainly precolonial history is very muddy. Sami i believe is part of what use to be Niani. the problem is that a chronological sequencing of events is very hard to find. Niani extend to up to Kunghel in present dya senegal. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2006 : 02:42:29
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My boy classmate,
I know one day,one day,all our history will be thought to our childreen at school.Thats the vission and it shall be achieved by the power of the MOST HIGH.
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sankahjang
USA
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Posted - 17 Mar 2006 : 10:01:45
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| I believe that is a posibility especially if people like you teaching us here do something more than teaching. so far what i learn here is a whole book. And the one thing that made me like it most is because most of you are talking about histories that were rarely taught in our school if at all.may the vissions come through by his power.Peace! |
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Momodou
Denmark
11717 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2006 : 10:11:41
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This is what someone wrote to me privately about the boundries:
"Districting started sometime around 1900. Francis Bisset Archer 1905 Francis Archer mentioned about using creeks and Bolongs as boundaries to districts. I believe it was during this time that some of the boundaries were drawn eg between Sami and Sandu along what was Sami river (Moore´s map). Also one must note that most of these boundaries were very fluid before British control. Conquering kingdoms often annexed the territories they defeat and up until the British consolidated their control in early 1900s, the entire Senegambia area had a lot of wars." |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2006 : 18:59:07
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| You are right. Senegambia was plagued with a lot of wars and the boundaries had shifted very often that there are overlaps depending on what era of history you are talking about. No wonder niani went all the way to kaolack but saloum also covered part of this area too depending on the time in history. The problem is to find a time line in our history which would have clearly shown the changes as history unfolded. |
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