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MADIBA
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toubab1020
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 Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 12:59:23
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Je ne parle frances! pardon,je parle Anglaise!
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Lily
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 15:39:44
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From what I understood - interesting and increasingly obvious..... You see it everywhere you go.
Damning? I'm not sure |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 16:20:49
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Originally posted by Lily
From what I understood - interesting and increasingly obvious..... You see it everywhere you go.
Damning? I'm not sure
Is there a problem ? just depends on your point of view dosn't it? |
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Lily
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 17:06:33
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 17:57:56
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While the documentation is certainly revealing, it is not all that damning. The people involved have gone far enough to manifest personal freedom of association defying all national and racial boundaries. In the absence of this documentation, the facts lay flat on the ground for all to see. Why Gambia was selected for this documentation is where I cannot connect the dots. The sex enterprise is a booming industry and Gambia is only a dot along the West Coast and so insignificant on the global Sex Map to be given this prominence. Someone may have some reason for this. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 19:20:34
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| It may depend on ones point of view. But why Gambia? Is The Gambia the hottest tourist destination in Africa where the local or tourist forge relationships? Damning becos the doc suggests that its one sided issue where the prostitutes are the young Gambian Males. Why not the tourists?It takes two to tango. Besides the Frenchman interviewed in Senegambia area by Ali Baba Restaurant is the biggest liar i have even seen. He told the lady/journalist that all the local people driving flashing cars who frequent the AliBaba made it thru this prostitution/bumsterism or drugs. Ali Baba is frequented by all people. Decent civil servants and foreign experts. Can he identify who owns which car? who does wat as trade? Some of these loose and irreponsible statements should be condemn. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 19:34:27
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Ali baba is a great place for people watching!   |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 19:56:50
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Madiba,
You have a valid point there. There is certainly something sinister about choosing Gambia for this documentation. Another very good point I quite agree with you is where you hold it "it takes two to tango." In all fairness, this documentation reveals more about tourist prostitutes RAIDING Gambian male youth. There is a total prejudice exposed in the documentation. This is a brialliant input Maddis. You have a particular role in handing down materials released in French. This one is just a good eye opener about how other ugly cameras focus our dear land. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 20:09:58
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The Website was a Senegalise website,in the present climate perhaps Gambia was the natural selection.
Vive La France ? |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 20:26:02
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Tanx Karamba. I think attimes we are treated unfairly. Male prostitution in The Gambia? We made alot of noise wen Gambia gov't arrested female prostitutes in the Gambia sometime ago. Are males not human too? Dnt we have rights?
I will always bring any piece i think will be useful to the bantaba. Where possible translate it into English. Toubab may have a point. I visit Seneweb as much as i do Gambian online fora and newspapers. But frankly most of the time they give us bad press.
Mbour in Senegal has been famous not only for its beaches but for its sex tourism and paeddophilia. Its hardly mentioned ion Seneweb. NO good article is published abt Gambia on Seneweb. But as said somewhere n this forum, the authorities of Gambia and Senegal should do all to defuse the tense situation for a long lasting peace and genuine mutual respect. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 21:42:34
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It depends on your definition of a prostitute. To me it is a man or women who does sex acts for money without any relationship forming.
An escort is someone who takes money for 'escorting' someone to events, meals etc. Usually this doesnt involve sex. Sometimes sex will be part of the equation. Sometimes a genuine friendship will develop.
A gigalo is a young man who accompanies an older lady and has sex with her. She will buy him presents and help him out financially in return. There is a relationship of kinds, but it is inbalanced because the women has the money and therefor the power. He possibly likes her, or even fancies her, but the main motive is self interest.
Young women 'golddiggers' will do the same in reverse and searchout an older man to 'look after' them. They get looked after in return for sex.
When it is an older man with a younger women people seem much less critical than when it is a younger man with an older women.
I think most intelligent people would prefer an equal relationship. Loving, but economic equals. Then you can know for sure the love is pure as there is no financial gain.
In the UK many men go to thailand to find a bride. This seems acceptable, whereas for a women to go to Africa for a husband is less acceptable.
To me I think young African men are of the gigalo model. They may THINK they have some feelings for the women, but economic self interest is the driving force.
But would you really call these men and women prostitutes? |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 23:44:09
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Originally posted by gambiabev
It depends on your definition of a prostitute.
Thats about right,I wouldn't argue with that at all,except to say that if religion and social acceptance are brought into the subject peoples perceptions may be different,who knows. |
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jambo
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Posted - 20 Jun 2007 : 10:46:26
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i agree with madiba, this man had a motive for saying what he did, and making the videoing, we on the bantaba know the area, but tother watching the video will judege this for what they see, a report on something that happens their. something was behind this. i think it is to give gambia a ruined reputation, people see this in a ~"developing country" and think the wrong thing. how sad |
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MeMe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Jun 2007 : 10:59:30
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| I agree, Jambo, I'm glad I didn't see this before my first or subsequent trips to the Gambia as I like going to Ali Baba Garden for the live band and although I did see lots of older tourists dancing with younger guys, I never for one minute thought that it was a sort of 'brothel'! Well that's how it was portrayed in this film and I would have avoided it like the plague if I'd not already visited the Smiling Coast! |
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jambo
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Posted - 20 Jun 2007 : 12:48:20
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exactly, i wonder if that is the message, do not go there |
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