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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 29 Apr 2007 : 13:18:37
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This musical group whom i have come to adore alittle late due to the fact that in my youthful days we were more interested in foreign music. Now a man, i realized the music these guys played were not only nice but rich culturally and quite original. I learnt that unfortunately most of them are poor or died poor.
Were they successful or failed? Why?
I would like to know more about the group(members, their backgroud)their history in short.
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 May 2007 : 17:04:11
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Madiss,
Success is what will fit the group. They have succeeded in blending traditional instruments much to the taste of a wider audience. On the material count of success, it was not the way many in the group saw success. Some cunning individuals have taken advantage of that and tapped the opportunities for personal gains. The legacy of pace setting is still theirs. The rest is history. |
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 07 May 2007 : 19:32:36
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Madiba, I think thay have been misused as Karamba stated.
Ifangbondi in the early 1980s. Pa Touray, Samson Gassama, Badou Jobe, Senemi Taylor.... (I don't recognise the others in the photo)
Ifang Bondi, meaning "reveal yourself" in Mandinka language, grew out of the former Gambian band called the Super Eagles. Founded in the 60's the Super Eagles was the undisputed top group in the Gambia and Senegal. In 1968 they toured Ghana, making an enormous impact with their very African sound in a country which was shortly to produce Osibisa.
In 1970 Super Eagles was disbanded only to rise up again in 1973, as Ifang Bondi. The name was new as the sound, featuring for the first time indigenous Senegambian rhythms, melodies and instruments. They integrated traditional instruments as kora, balafon, sabar, talking drum, bugarabu and djembe with mordern instruments as the electric guitar, base and keyboards.
As such they have been credited to be the true originators of the current "Afro-Manding" sound as extemporised by stars such as Yousou N'dure, Salif Keïta and Mory Kante.
Among the original members of Super Eagles were: late Pa Touray, Badou Jobe, Edu Hafner, Ousou Njie, Senemis Taylor and late Malando Gassama. Others include: Samson Gassama, Pa Nije Drums, Late Pa Njie Bass, The late Ali Harp, Karamo Sabally.
Badou Jobe who is the leader of the current Ifangbondi and is the only original member in the band. Badou is based in the Nederlands and had been named Africa's Best Music Arranger in 1999 Kora Music Awards.
The group that came to Copenhagen in 2000 was:
Badou Jobe - bass
El Hadj Samb - vocals, percussion
Jali Momodou Suso - kora, vocals
Juldeh Camara - riti, vocals
Lin Diaw - guitars
Bassirou Mbaye - percussion: sabar, bugarabou, tama, djembe
Tafa Ndiaye - keyboards
Ibou Gueye - drums
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Santanfara
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Posted - 07 May 2007 : 21:24:00
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momodou ,ofcourse i am not a music man but the word IFANBONDI IS TRANSLATED WRONG IN ENGLISH. ifanbondi is name for a mythical character or person in mandinka culture .this person is call ifanbondi because unlike the kankuran whom people decorate in his leave and tree body which is pounded custume (redish and green ) , ifanbondi is self dressed and decorated. so ifanbondi mean unveil yourself or reveal yourself. but a more accurate meaning will be making reference to the mythical nature of this person whom many wouldn't know .he can mix with people but he is not allowed to reveal his id. so the term ifanbondi came out the secrecy of the person .knowbody dress you but you custume yourself and dress yourself. . the term bondi means taken out so ifan here would mean yourself. so a befitting term is showing yourself. this mythical character are still in villages but rearly perform in traditional circles. i am an ifanbondi just a joke. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2007 : 23:47:52
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Karamba N Momodou thanks for the info and images of the great IFANG as some affectionately called them.
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salimina
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Posted - 07 May 2007 : 23:59:08
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2007 : 01:02:25
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Originally posted by salimina
i can remember one of their singles called KOTO WALLI. That was inspirational.
Bro you sound like someone from BrufutCos i had a buddy from Brufut who introduced me to that single i think it was a tribute to their dance hall(Brufut). |
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Momodou
Denmark
11840 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2007 : 08:35:55
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Originally posted by Santanfara
momodou ,ofcourse i am not a music man but the word IFANBONDI IS TRANSLATED WRONG IN ENGLISH.....
Sasntanfara, thanks! Its now rectified. |
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ylowe
USA
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Posted - 08 May 2007 : 14:11:08
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| Momodou, i think Charlie Valentine was part of the group(bass guitarist). He later settled in the uk. |
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 08 May 2007 : 14:33:52
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Modou,
Malando was part of Super Eagles and not Ifang. He had already left for Sweden when Ifang was formed. I think it was after their first drummer(Babucarr Gassama)died.
I think some of the guys outside could be Charlie Valentine, Dan Joof, Cheeks and the guy from Cameroon who played gutarr. Don't forget the late Pa Lamin Drammeh(BOTI MUS)and John N'gate their mixer.The Alhaji Samba with ppresent Ifang. is called Seikh Tijan Samba. There is an older pic. some where.
There are even serries of CDs called Senegal Flash contaning their old sounds together with the former GELEWARR band. Jalikunda has these cds. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2007 : 17:22:58
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Koto Alhassan, which Dan Joof is dat? Was he the one who later joined the Police Band? Besides who were the members of GELEWARR, why did they too disband? Does this Jalikunda have video tapes of these groups?
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2007 : 19:53:07
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In the photo, Ali Harp (Al Berr) is the one kneeling on ground and looking upwards. Al Berr played flute, saxo, and sang sensational melodies. The song Yolele, Sutukung, Ham ham, are some of the best you can capture his voice on.
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 08 May 2007 : 20:24:14
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Koto Alhassan, which Dan Joof is dat? Was he the one who later joined the Police Band? Besides who were the members of GELEWARR, why did they too disband? Does this Jalikunda have video tapes of these groups?
Thanks
MADIBA,
Dan Joof jumpted off the Super Eagles when they first went to the UK. He comes from Hill Street and a causin of the late AMATA TAMBA if you know Afdie. Dan used to play the guitarr too. He lived not far away from Pa Touray. Infact most of the member of the Super Eagles came from thwe following streets
Badou Jobe _Bickle Street
Modou Cham - Leman Street
Oussou Njie - Buckle Street
Pa Touray - Hill Street
Dan Joof - Hill Sytreet
Babucarr Fofana - Hagan Street
Edward Haffna- Banjul Central
Malando Gassama - Bakote, later Hill Street
Charles Valantine some where Banjul Central I cannot remember as I am too from Afdie.
Kunan Senemi Banjul Central
There was a time when Bass used to play Sax together with Modou Cham, he came from Senegal. They started together with Laba at Dobson Street. Then a private getleman called Chamsu Cocer used to hire out his set of instruments. I remembered some of that.
Ali Harp (Al Berr) joined them later I think he was with the police Band first
GELEWARR was a good band too which later came to be Magadan.
The members of that band I remember are as follows:
The late Oussou Njie Lion
Cox, Lie Ngum, Bie Janha, John Cambel, Sogi Soc, Musa Ngum, Omar Ngum (Bai Jaw) these are the people I remember.
We have cd records. Not video tapes. During their time there were no such things of lux to those poor band members. The Super Eagles might have. There could have been among some of the Gambians who attended their shows there who might have some clips. Badou Jobe in Holland might remember. I might have forgottened some of the guys but there might be some one on the forum who remembered more to correct some of my mistakes.
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Momodou
Denmark
11840 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2007 : 20:33:52
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Originally posted by Alhassan
GELEWARR was a good band too which later came to be Magadan.
The members of that band I remember are as follows:
The late Oussou Njie Lion
Cox, Lie Ngum, Bie Janha, John Cambel, Sogi Soc, Musa Ngum, Omar Ngum (Bai Jaw) these are the people I remember.
Alhassan, both Gelewarr and Magadan existed the same time so they are not the same people. The names above were the ones in Gelewarr. |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2007 : 20:49:06
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Am very happy and amazed abt the info being provided by undoubtedly the KOTOs (Momodou et Alhassan) Koto Alhassan i lived in Bjl not south though but was certainly not old enough to remember the homes of all these guys. I want to say Video clips of the shows these groups did, i dont mind if it is available on CD/DVD.
Keep them coming this is great stuff. I think the National Council for Arts and Culture has to come up with somthg to help these living legends for the remainder of their lives and even posthumously. If they start somthg people like myself would break my wooden safe. I forgot the name. My grandma used it in the olden days. |
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salimina
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Posted - 08 May 2007 : 23:17:25
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Madiss,
Am not from brufut but i know the place very well. I got lot of friends there in the early eighties.I even had a very good time in KOTO WALLI HALL and it will always be afresh in my mind. |
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