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jambo



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Posted - 06 Mar 2007 :  13:05:29  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
i thought i would share this with members, i correspond with people who are in gambia and witnessing first hand what is happening. "Gambia is is seriuos trouble, the mentality of the people and the continuing decline of the economic structure is very bad. Soon and really now this will be lil Nigeria. There are many problems here and the lack of understanding of GOD and faith.
Whatever, the people are in serious trouble and need help."
it saddens me to see the negativety of this peaceful land, but with the youth leaving, politicians being corrupt, land grabbing, what starts at the top will soon trickle down. is there no help.

LEMON TIME



Afghanistan
1295 Posts

Posted - 06 Mar 2007 :  17:08:25  Show Profile Send LEMON TIME a Private Message
As far as yaya is president Gambia will be in serious trouble.

There is no god but Allah
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 06 Mar 2007 :  17:48:11  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
Jambo,

You have hit the nail flatly on the head. Because Jammeh comes from acute poor background is no reason for him to rob an entire state economy to change his status from abject poverty to filthy riches. That is the genesis of Gambia staying poorer and Jammeh growing like fat cat. There is no sign to indicate that Jammeh will loosen his electric grips on Gambian resources. Therefore the suffering you raised will continue. Even when Jammeh is booted out the impact will still remain severe. He is a dangerous breed to have emerged over peaceful Gambians. It is this issue to which every Gambian needs paying greater attention. Jammeh does not control any devils or angels to boost his powers. It is all false. The day he is booted out the world will live to see the whole truth.

Karamba

Edited by - Karamba on 06 Mar 2007 17:50:08
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mansasulu



997 Posts

Posted - 07 Mar 2007 :  23:36:36  Show Profile Send mansasulu a Private Message
robbery has been going on for over 400 years...it is rather ironic that we still believe and give credence to a system that is rotten at its core.

"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)

...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah...

Edited by - mansasulu on 07 Mar 2007 23:41:22
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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2007 :  22:12:50  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
i ask this question once before and it brought a lot of abuse, but know we have some new members i ask again.
If yaya goes, who replaces him and will gambia be better off.
if i understand mansasulu, robbery of gambia has been going on for 400 years, then yaya is just another person letting the value of gambia disapper.
who should rule Gambia
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Karamba



United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Mar 2007 :  23:50:35  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Jambo,

Unseating Yahya Jammeh is not the most urgent matter. There is a bad precedence set and politics in Gambia is run along that bad track of corruption and nepotism. Jammeh has no desire to change that instead he too enjoys it. What we need most urgent is to create a population that is not ready to tolerate the bad system. A population that will make informed choice from diverse candidates. We have now what is politics of deception (politiki nahaateh.) In short we need changing that more than we need unseating one bad leader for a worse. While still in office, we have to direct all bullets of word power on the bad skin of corrupt and nepotic politicians like Jammeh and those who wish to replace him and not ready to change the bad system.

Karamba
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mansasulu



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Posted - 09 Mar 2007 :  17:03:43  Show Profile Send mansasulu a Private Message
I have said it here in one of my maiden postings that the current political system in Gambia breeds a never ending cycle and constant culture of corruption. Educating the population is not necessary, because Gambians are educated enough to know what is going on. Changing the leadership without changing the rotten political system will not change anything. Until Gambians wake up one morning and decide to turn towards the laws of Allah, tyranny, corruption and greed will continue to be the order of the day.

"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)

...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah...
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 09 Mar 2007 :  19:24:34  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by mansasulu

I have said it here in one of my maiden postings that the current political system in Gambia breeds a never ending cycle and constant culture of corruption. Educating the population is not necessary, because Gambians are educated enough to know what is going on. Changing the leadership without changing the rotten political system will not change anything. Until Gambians wake up one morning and decide to turn towards the laws of Allah, tyranny, corruption and greed will continue to be the order of the day.



The problem is not because they dont know the ways of righteousness but they choose to look the other way. So no amount of "preaching" will make them change.

The "rotten" political system cannot be solved by a theocracy.
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Karamba



United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Mar 2007 :  22:39:13  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
Kondorong,

Preaching is not the way. Rather we take it in the mode of positive interplay. People may still have the knowledge and desire for progressive alteration of their circumstances. They may not be sharing out and that is a difference. It is better having a positive interplay. To preach may look like some people feel they have the ready answers. When a larger number of people build the passion for progressive interplay the fact will land safely.

Karamba
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mansasulu



997 Posts

Posted - 10 Mar 2007 :  00:04:21  Show Profile Send mansasulu a Private Message
Kondorong, i think you are having a hard time understanding what I am trying to say. Let me try to explain my self better. There is nothing in the world that Allah has not prescribed a ruling or cure via the Quran and Sunna. I am sure you will agree with that. Now we totally ignored the laws of Allah and adopted "man made" laws and expect them to be a perfect solutions when man in his nature is not perfect. We thump our noses against the laws of Allah and instead adopt laws that go against the commandments of Allah. No wonder we are in the situation we are in.

We have forgotten about the supremacy of Allah and he has made us to forget ourselves and impose tyrants to rule over us. If 400 years of tyranny is not enough, we have not seen anything yet. Yahya Jammeh is not the problem in Gambia, rather we are the problem because we idle sit by or shall I say give him the mandate to violate the laws of Allah on his land. Folks, we are all guilty in aiding and abetting in defiance to Allah.

"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)

...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah...
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 10 Mar 2007 :  00:18:49  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
mansu

Thanks for your clarification. Appreciated.
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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 10 Mar 2007 :  14:31:23  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
mansasulu, respect for your words, Yahya Jammeh is not the problem in Gambia, rather we are the problem because we idle sit by.
i agree that he anlone is not the problem, but the solution is with the gatekeepers, you wish for a return to Allah, but has Gambia every been with Allah, it was created by Christians and use european calendars.
Could not the religious leaders in Gambia promote a better way of life. It depends are were you want change to start at the roots in schools, or at the higher level with politics.
CAN I ASK ARE YOU MAKING A CHANGE, ARE YOU GOING TO STAND FOR POLITICS. i think you should stand for some position that will benefit other people.
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mansasulu



997 Posts

Posted - 12 Mar 2007 :  13:54:35  Show Profile Send mansasulu a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jambo

mansasulu, respect for your words, Yahya Jammeh is not the problem in Gambia, rather we are the problem because we idle sit by.
i agree that he anlone is not the problem, but the solution is with the gatekeepers, you wish for a return to Allah, but has Gambia every been with Allah, it was created by Christians and use european calendars.
Could not the religious leaders in Gambia promote a better way of life. It depends are were you want change to start at the roots in schools, or at the higher level with politics.
CAN I ASK ARE YOU MAKING A CHANGE, ARE YOU GOING TO STAND FOR POLITICS. i think you should stand for some position that will benefit other people.



CERTAINLY NOT UNDER THE CURRENT POLITICAL SYSTEM. My father had been in politics in Gambia for 17 years. I know at first hand how rotten this system is.

"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)

...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah...
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