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Cornelius
Sweden
1051 Posts |
 Posted - 12 Feb 2007 : 15:28:52
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Originally posted by Alhassan
Cornelius,
I would be delighted to here one of these people going home and contesting as a political candidate. In my opinion, we still are talking aloud and doing nothing. Now is the time for them to act.I cannot contest in the elections there but would support any qualified and honest Gambian amongst us in the diaspora. This is what I am waiting for.
Al- Hassan,
Mahatma Gandhi said that ” YOU must be the change you wish to see in the world !”
DO you agree?
You assure us that you cannot contest in the election there (without giving a reason) although I suspect that if you would like to then you could.
You do not mean African Politics as the most lucrative profession on the continent, but do good politics. The cradle for all that is the building of democratic institutions starting with the Judiciary. And what is this we hear al-Hassan, about Lamin Dibba being taken off the job of reporting about health issues? Since you are usually in the know, can you confirm this as true? It’s this sort of thing that keeps some would–be politicians abroad with the feeling that home is best but not in jail pending a treason trial or for writing an article that offended some toothless chimpanzee or another not so toothless one who might slam the offender’s ess in jail - mIle 2?
http://www.bloggernews.net/14547
http://compareherbalpills.com/2120/gambia-in-herbal-treatment-135-asthma-patients-recovered-2/
http://mjd.vox.com/library/post/photos-from-the-gambia.html
http://health.einnews.com/gambia/
Apart from Gambians who are abroad to study and those away purposefully to earn a good living and be able to send remittances home, and apart from all the shipwrecked sailors, playboys, bums and adventurers and all those family people who have the same cherche la femme as reason, there are a good number of youngsters who having acquired experience could be encouraged to return, but not necessarily into politics direct. Relocating, especially with family and children is not very easy. I know for a fact that there is some on-going project about the financing of voluntary repatriation – if that vere gets to policy= action then many people will return and some- inevitably might become clan leaders or chiefs ( I know more than tow Ghanaina chiefs here in Stockholm – far away from thier heriditray chiefdoms and politics is just astep away or above a cxhiefs poplularity ( And by translating chief to moanrch then many are the princes)
AS you are of course aware, a Gambian left Sweden and eventually took up an appointment in Yahya’s cabinet. Very confident of him to take off from here with that sense of purpose. (When I have time I must tell you the story of the Gorilla that they took back to the Jungle - all the way from the London Circus and zoo – and how he too became chief – through some of the tricks he had learned to do – to the amazement of his jungle folk who had challenged him for leadership- in that special gorilla way.
Politics is not something to just plunge into without having a base. One needs a base and I have a lot of respect for the hardy guys who are still there holding the fort and usually tougher and more resilient than those flying in from Göteborg with a lot of Social democrat ideas which do not have the social democratic structures to place then in.
However, there is still a greater need for, teachers, doctors, engineers, management,- there a long list of our manpower requirement needs which exceeds that for raw politicians so it’s quite possible that since you have worked as a teacher in Senegal, you are also welcome back to the Gambia to make your contribution there too.
NB: Tomoorow I intend to go and see Imam Saidu Taal at around time for Zhour.
Perhaps see you there and then we can have some of that Gunpowder tea from China?
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Cornelius
Sweden
1051 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2007 : 15:28:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Alhassan
Cornelius,
I would be delighted to here one of these people going home and contesting as a political candidate. In my opinion, we still are talking aloud and doing nothing. Now is the time for them to act.I cannot contest in the elections there but would support any qualified and honest Gambian amongst us in the diaspora. This is what I am waiting for.
Al- Hassan,
Mahatma Gandhi said that ” YOU must be the change you wish to see in the world !”
DO you agree?
You assure us that you cannot contest in the election there (without giving a reason) although I suspect that if you would like to then you could.
You do not mean African Politics as the most lucrative profession on the continent, but do good politics. The cradle for all that is the building of democratic institutions starting with the Judiciary. And what is this we hear al-Hassan, about Lamin Dibba being taken off the job of reporting about health issues? Since you are usually in the know, can you confirm this as true? It’s this sort of thing that keeps some would–be politicians abroad with the feeling that home is best but not in jail pending a treason trial or for writing an article that offended some toothless chimpanzee or another not so toothless one who might slam the offender’s ess in jail - mIle 2?
http://www.bloggernews.net/14547
http://compareherbalpills.com/2120/gambia-in-herbal-treatment-135-asthma-patients-recovered-2/
http://mjd.vox.com/library/post/photos-from-the-gambia.html
http://health.einnews.com/gambia/
Apart from Gambians who are abroad to study and those away purposefully to earn a good living and be able to send remittances home, and apart from all the shipwrecked sailors, playboys, bums and adventurers and all those family people who have the same cherche la femme as reason, there are a good number of youngsters who having acquired experience could be encouraged to return, but not necessarily into politics direct. Relocating, especially with family and children is not very easy. I know for a fact that there is some on-going project about the financing of voluntary repatriation – if that vere gets to policy= action then many people will return and some- inevitably might become clan leaders or chiefs ( I know more than tow Ghanaina chiefs here in Stockholm – far away from thier heriditray chiefdoms and politics is just astep away or above a cxhiefs poplularity ( And by translating chief to moanrch then many are the princes)
AS you are of course aware, a Gambian left Sweden and eventually took up an appointment in Yahya’s cabinet. Very confident of him to take off from here with that sense of purpose. (When I have time I must tell you the story of the Gorilla that they took back to the Jungle - all the way from the London Circus and zoo – and how he too became chief – through some of the tricks he had learned to do – to the amazement of his jungle folk who had challenged him for leadership- in that special gorilla way.
Politics is not something to just plunge into without having a base. One needs a base and I have a lot of respect for the hardy guys who are still there holding the fort and usually tougher and more resilient than those flying in from Göteborg with a lot of Social democrat ideas which do not have the social democratic structures to place then in.
However, there is still a greater need for, teachers, doctors, engineers, management,- there a long list of our manpower requirement needs which exceeds that for raw politicians so it’s quite possible that since you have worked as a teacher in Senegal, you are also welcome back to the Gambia to make your contribution there too.
NB: Tomoorow I intend to go and see Imam Saidu Taal at around time for Zhour.
Perhaps see you there and then we can have some of that Gunpowder tea from China?
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2007 : 15:44:18
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Originally posted by ebou4th
Santafara, I beg to differ. Politics can work. If the opposition had placed the national interest first and forged a common voice the recent election results would have been different.
Capturing half of the seats in parliament would have abated the unchecked power that the APR currently enjoys.
I believe the question is when will like minded progressive Gambians in the Diaspora find way to unite. It seems many Gambians in the Diaspora see a need for a better system so what are we going to do about it?
I think our brother [ebou4th] had said it all.An enlightened society is a developing society.No further comments.
peace
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2007 : 15:44:18
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Originally posted by ebou4th
Santafara, I beg to differ. Politics can work. If the opposition had placed the national interest first and forged a common voice the recent election results would have been different.
Capturing half of the seats in parliament would have abated the unchecked power that the APR currently enjoys.
I believe the question is when will like minded progressive Gambians in the Diaspora find way to unite. It seems many Gambians in the Diaspora see a need for a better system so what are we going to do about it?
I think our brother [ebou4th] had said it all.An enlightened society is a developing society.No further comments.
peace
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2007 : 16:13:02
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Cornelius,
I gave up my citizenship for a long time ago. I am ready to go back and teach as I used to do before I left Gambia. I have many students here in Sweden and arround the EU and US. The only problem is most of my teacher collegus have retaired. I do not know if I can get a job , but I can give my support anywhere needed. As I am into workshop planning and manifacture, I can contribute withn the technical section. I have been making spare parts many cars and even JAS Grippen. I am not a politician. Mybe we meet at the mosque.
I surpose the Gamians have a seminar in Kista on Saturday the 17 Feb.
will you be there? I shall be sure |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2007 : 16:13:02
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Cornelius,
I gave up my citizenship for a long time ago. I am ready to go back and teach as I used to do before I left Gambia. I have many students here in Sweden and arround the EU and US. The only problem is most of my teacher collegus have retaired. I do not know if I can get a job , but I can give my support anywhere needed. As I am into workshop planning and manifacture, I can contribute withn the technical section. I have been making spare parts many cars and even JAS Grippen. I am not a politician. Mybe we meet at the mosque.
I surpose the Gamians have a seminar in Kista on Saturday the 17 Feb.
will you be there? I shall be sure |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2007 : 18:23:41
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Originally posted by Foni
Hello everybody. I've been a kin follower of the forum for more than a year but i now deem it fit to do justices to myself to put the little ideas too.
Anyway with regards to change in our poltical system, I think is now time for our opposition leaders to go back to the masses they let down and appologised and let there selfcenterness out of the line put public interest first as is what they pledge to do.
PEACE
Foni
Your cyber name is certainly an area that does not tolerate an opposition candidate. That region with atleast 6 consituencies goes unopposed since 1994. Perhaps you might want to change your name if you seriously believe in political change.
No hard feelings to Foni, but thats the truth. No opposition party is welcomed there and i am just suprised this time that an independent candidate won there. I guess he was an APRC supporter who was not selected by the party and went indepedent.
I dont believe or trust an indepedent candidate in politics. You are either in or out. Sitting on the fence only leads to suprises. One is either for the government or an opposition. There cant be a middle ground. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2007 : 18:23:41
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Originally posted by Foni
Hello everybody. I've been a kin follower of the forum for more than a year but i now deem it fit to do justices to myself to put the little ideas too.
Anyway with regards to change in our poltical system, I think is now time for our opposition leaders to go back to the masses they let down and appologised and let there selfcenterness out of the line put public interest first as is what they pledge to do.
PEACE
Foni
Your cyber name is certainly an area that does not tolerate an opposition candidate. That region with atleast 6 consituencies goes unopposed since 1994. Perhaps you might want to change your name if you seriously believe in political change.
No hard feelings to Foni, but thats the truth. No opposition party is welcomed there and i am just suprised this time that an independent candidate won there. I guess he was an APRC supporter who was not selected by the party and went indepedent.
I dont believe or trust an indepedent candidate in politics. You are either in or out. Sitting on the fence only leads to suprises. One is either for the government or an opposition. There cant be a middle ground. |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2007 : 19:35:44
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Originally posted by Alhassan
Cornelius,
I would be delighted to here one of these people going home and contesting as a political candidate. In my opinion, we still are talking aloud and doing nothing. Now is the time for them to act.I cannot contest in the elections there but would support any qualified and honest Gambian amongst us in the diaspora. This is what I am waiting for.
Alhassan, our problem is not lack of people to contest elections. Elections are meaningless if the electorates don't understand their power to change government. We have a daunting task to deal with the civic education of our citizenry before we meaningfully engage in mere elections to change an incumbent government that is willing to do anything to stay in power.
Our task is that of education and local participation in the form of giving back to our populace. Many Gambians at home still strongly believe that we are engaged in a loosing battle by trying to fight from a distance.
The issue is not all about elections. The government has successfully painted us in the diaspora as opposition for life. They think no matter what they do we are still going to oppose them. We need to show signs of willingness to engage in other areas of development, not only wait from election cycle to election cycle. There is lot more we can do to cripple this government with the resources and talent we have. This is the brainstorming we are engaged in right now... |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2007 : 19:35:44
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quote:
Originally posted by Alhassan
Cornelius,
I would be delighted to here one of these people going home and contesting as a political candidate. In my opinion, we still are talking aloud and doing nothing. Now is the time for them to act.I cannot contest in the elections there but would support any qualified and honest Gambian amongst us in the diaspora. This is what I am waiting for.
Alhassan, our problem is not lack of people to contest elections. Elections are meaningless if the electorates don't understand their power to change government. We have a daunting task to deal with the civic education of our citizenry before we meaningfully engage in mere elections to change an incumbent government that is willing to do anything to stay in power.
Our task is that of education and local participation in the form of giving back to our populace. Many Gambians at home still strongly believe that we are engaged in a loosing battle by trying to fight from a distance.
The issue is not all about elections. The government has successfully painted us in the diaspora as opposition for life. They think no matter what they do we are still going to oppose them. We need to show signs of willingness to engage in other areas of development, not only wait from election cycle to election cycle. There is lot more we can do to cripple this government with the resources and talent we have. This is the brainstorming we are engaged in right now... |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2007 : 21:04:44
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Baldeh
You are very right. Its like what mandinkas call: KO TI KO DANILA. (someone who has salt and ignorant of it, goes out begging for salt.) People dont know that they have power in their votes and that politicians are their employees |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2007 : 21:04:44
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Baldeh
You are very right. Its like what mandinkas call: KO TI KO DANILA. (someone who has salt and ignorant of it, goes out begging for salt.) People dont know that they have power in their votes and that politicians are their employees |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 10:51:27
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Kondorong,
Where are you? Do you live in the Gambia or in Britain? |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 10:51:27
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Kondorong,
Where are you? Do you live in the Gambia or in Britain? |
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Cornelius
Sweden
1051 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 11:08:21
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Al-Hassan,
Please check your private mailbox.
With India havinyg so many of her nationals living abroad and in many cases as naturalised citizens in the affluent West, the Indian government thought it prudent to grant dual nationality. This has since proved to be advantageous to the Indian economy.
There must be similar advantages for the Gambia taking a similar step and I suppose this has been discussed before.
One advantage would be that it would give someone like you the posssibility of retaining that your citizenship which - for whatever necessary or unnecessary reason - you willingly or reluctantly "gave up" a long time ago..........and the children, can they choose?
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Edited by - Cornelius on 13 Feb 2007 11:09:56 |
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