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Momodou
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 Posted - 03 Dec 2006 : 23:51:34
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Annan: Iraq worse than under Saddam
SUNDAY, DECEMBER 03, 2006
22:23 MECCA TIME, 19:23 GMT
Kofi Annan, the UN secretary-general, has said Iraq is in the grips of a civil war and many people are worse off now than under Saddam Hussein.
Annan, who leaves office on December 31, described Iraq as being in an extremely dangerous situation and again questioned the ability of Baghdad's leadership to solve the civil strife by themselves.
"When we had the strife in Lebanon and other places, we called that a civil war - this is much worse," Annan said in an interview with BBC television and radio to be broadcast on Monday.
Last week Annan told reporters Iraq was nearing civil war.
Insecure life
Annan said he agreed with Iraqis who say that life is worse now than it was under Saddam.
"I think they are right in the sense of the average Iraqi's life," he said.
The violence in Iraq is continuing to claim hundreds of lives every month
"If I were an average Iraqi obviously I would make the same comparison - that they had a dictator who was brutal but they had their streets, they could go out, their kids could go to school and come back home without a mother or father worrying, 'Am I going to see my child again?" Annan said.
"And the Iraqi government has not been able to bring the violence under control."
Since the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, which was not approved by the UN Security Council and Annan subsequently called "illegal", divisions among UN members have sharpened.
"I really believed that we could have stopped the war and that if we had worked a bit harder, given the inspectors a bit more time, we could have," Annan said.
He said that the US Iraq Study Group, which is about to release its report, recognised that "things are not working the way they had hoped and that it is essential to take a critical review - take a critical look at what is going on and, if necessary, change course".
Source: Al Jazeera English
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 : 10:12:25
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Sorry Annan, you're part of it, just because you're leaving in a few weeks doesnt mean you can start talking.
infact the only place in the world where UN Peace Keeeper would be useful is IRAQ |
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kiwi
Sweden
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serenata
Germany
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 : 12:18:06
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I agree, kiwi. And I think Iraq would need UN troops instead of US, British etc.
But I also ask myself if really all of the terroristic acts are done by Shiites or Sunnites. There are Iraqis who say that the CIA and/or other (US) secret services are behind many of these acts, because they give US and their helpers the excuse to stay. This could even make sense, because no matter if the US army is successful or not - the occupation of Iraq is very profitable for many US companies. |
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kiwi
Sweden
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 : 14:08:07
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| Serenata, the rumours you described could be very true, the presens of UN would be much better. If the Iraqis agree to it. |
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Edited by - kiwi on 04 Dec 2006 14:39:26 |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 : 16:14:45
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Kiwi/Serenata
Of course Annan has to be responsible. This guy wasnt at the UN today. he has been there for decades. the Rwanda genocide happened whilst he was head of UN Peacekeeping !!!. he knows about UN inefficiency more than anyone.
the whole no-fly zone above Iraq, the Oil for Food scandals in Iraq with his son, the UN inspection program by Hans Blix, etc
all proof that Iraq couldnt have a weapons program.
if he didnt agree to the invasion of a sovereign nation he could have resigned and would today be vindicated.
he is sorrowful about Iraq, perhaps he should retire in Darfur. |
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serenata
Germany
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 : 21:25:54
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Njucks, you are absolutely right about Rwanda. But Annan made clear that he was against the occupation of Iraq. What else could he have done? Beat Bush jr. up? Resigning - I don't know.
I think Annan gained some profile in his term. If I remember it right, the US pushed him into this office because they thought him to be their poodle. In some important points this was an error. |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 : 21:43:20
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well its a FACT that the Americans backed him after they refused Boutros Ghali from Egypt who didnt do/denied a second term. but i think there is no point talking about Iraq now as it won't save lives. even if Iraq was mistake to learn from, the UN is watching what happened in Iraq in the 1980s happen live in Darfur. all under his term.
i dont agree however that he has ever challenged the Americans atleast publicly,, if it happened i missed it. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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kobo
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 06 Dec 2006 : 23:12:02
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you are real right Mr Annan is the worst UN Sec .General ever!.
he comes in dancing for the US&co.for they profitable interest.
look all what happens in his turn. central Africa problems there
Serra Leon /Liberia here .meddle east as well as Darfur now.i mean what kind of a Sec. General is this .and not to forget the important question, that's what has he done for Africa ?
he is nothing but a marionette!
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Originally posted by njucks
Kiwi/Serenata
Of course Annan has to be responsible. This guy wasnt at the UN today. he has been there for decades. the Rwanda genocide happened whilst he was head of UN Peacekeeping !!!. he knows about UN inefficiency more than anyone.
the whole no-fly zone above Iraq, the Oil for Food scandals in Iraq with his son, the UN inspection program by Hans Blix, etc
all proof that Iraq couldnt have a weapons program.
if he didnt agree to the invasion of a sovereign nation he could have resigned and would today be vindicated.
he is sorrowful about Iraq, perhaps he should retire in Darfur.
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 07 Dec 2006 : 20:35:33
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Mbay, you are certainly entitle to your opinion of Kofi Annan. I personally have some reservation about some conflicts that happened under his watch. For example the on going crisis in Darfur. It has not been handled well, and they should force the Sudanese government to accept UN forces or face the consequences.
He need to be given some credit for standing up against some of the injustice U.S, Israel and others are doing around the world. He also gets credit for pushing hard for debt forgivness for African countries. He was suppose to be an American Secretary General but he stood against them in many areas like Iraq, Palestine etc.
I would wish that he did a better job combating the very root cause of civil wars in Africa..CORRUPTION. I wish he had instituted some broad policies at the UN to track any African dictator who is engaged in looting their nations' resources and also prevent military takeover which are mainly as a result of corruption and leadership failure.
On balance, he was did a good job. Let hope for the best around the world. |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 08 Dec 2006 : 08:18:39
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I didn’t say he hasn’t spoken indeed he dose but who heard him? is anything happing No!
Whether were hutus/tutis genocides or meddle east crises as well as news cases in Darfur
and what about so called war on terrorist the West are doing what they please
and nothing is saying it in Security Council because from up to down is the same people sitting there and
doing their things .I mean man can’t fight with his shadow or with him self
& remembers this is a politic it is like, what you see is not what you get.
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Originally posted by dbaldeh
Mbay, you are certainly entitle to your opinion of Kofi Annan. I personally have some reservation about some conflicts that happened under his watch. For example the on going crisis in Darfur. It has not been handled well, and they should force the Sudanese government to accept UN forces or face the consequences.
He need to be given some credit for standing up against some of the injustice U.S, Israel and others are doing around the world. He also gets credit for pushing hard for debt forgivness for African countries. He was suppose to be an American Secretary General but he stood against them in many areas like Iraq, Palestine etc.
I would wish that he did a better job combating the very root cause of civil wars in Africa..CORRUPTION. I wish he had instituted some broad policies at the UN to track any African dictator who is engaged in looting their nations' resources and also prevent military takeover which are mainly as a result of corruption and leadership failure.
On balance, he was did a good job. Let hope for the best around the world.
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