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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
 Posted - 27 Oct 2006 : 17:53:43
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Jammeh's cabinet shake up has left one prominent name out for reasons only known to him. Has he dumped Kaba Bajo former secretary of state for foreign Affairs?
It was widely speculated that the President was just using Lamin Kaba Bajo to reach out to old PPP hands and widen his support by closely associating Kaba to him. Now that the elections are over, he seems to have done it again by dumping another close loyalist.
Unless Kaba has been redeployed to another position without our knowledge, it is safe to assume that he has become another political victim of the Jammeh regime. This will be yet another lesson for Gambians to learn from Jammeh that the only person he trust and is loyal to is his own interest. There is no untouchable person in Jammeh's government. The biggest risk anyone can take is to play loyalist to Jammeh...
The next victims are already lined up and it will not be shocking if Yankuba and Edward are seen parking their luggage. The man changes colors as often as a Chameleon. To change government personnel like someone changing military guards is unspeakable. Unless someone knew something in store for Bajo, he may be done until needed again...
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Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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SOH
Gambia
46 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2006 : 20:35:12
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Kabba Bajo is a great man, a man of great honesty and integrity and that's something no one, I repeat, NO one can take away from him.
God bless you LKB. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2006 : 22:06:21
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Originally posted by SOH
Kabba Bajo is a great man, a man of great honesty and integrity and that's something no one, I repeat, NO one can take away from him.
God bless you LKB.
SOH
Any proofs?. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Did you know that in prison, every prisoner claims to be innocent. |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2006 : 23:46:19
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There is no doubt Kaba has demonstrated maturity and willingness to serve his country when called upon. We are not questioning his integrity either, however being part of this and any administration makes you accountable for some of the things that happens during that administration.
I question his role in standing up for or against the way many of our young people are being treated in other countries for trying to gain access to greener pastures. During his time at the foreign affairs many governments crack down on our youths. I simply want to find out what his role was in promoting the interest of our youths.
I would also like to know what role he played as alleged by others that he was instrumental in bringing many PPP old hands into joining the APRC regime. Did he infact undermine the role of the UDP and its leadership rallying the country against Jammeh?
Again, am not saying he is quilty of anything except his association with a regime that has terrible human rights records. I think he is innocent until proven quilty if anyone can proof him.
In conclusion, there were many people who further speculate that he was being used against his own mandinka folks that Jammeh always regard as his enemies. Is this true? I don't know and would like to know. Whoever knows can tell our readership...
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Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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shaka
996 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2006 : 06:42:18
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| Kaba Bajo a man of integrity and honesty!!! Can someone please pass the bucket before puke on Momodou's bantaba. Maybe there is a new meaning to these fine words. How about: Kaba Bajo is simply not fit to man a serious office like the Ministry of external affairs. The bloke spent all those years lapping it up in Saudi Arabia as Gambian ambassador with little or no effect in that position. His only achievement being that of consolidating the annual donation of "yappi gelem"(camel meat) from Saudi charities to poor Gambian muslims who end up fighting for available toilets as much as they wrestle each other for few slices of this meat. Add this to seasonal praise-singing felicitations he send to the emperor, hailing him everything short of God. How he got to be foreign secretary of state continues to eclipse my intelligence. Man of integrity my arse!!! Nepotism! Nepotism! And it stinks. Another African cancer. ONLY FRIENDS, FAMILY AND LOVED ONES CAN DO NO WRONG as politicians!! |
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SOH
Gambia
46 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2006 : 11:04:40
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The fact that I spoke well of a person should not rain so much critisism. I personally stand by every word I said of LK Bajo, he is a decnt guy who has gone by the precepts of serving nation and folks. What some may not know is the fact that this man worked decently to serve his nation and his government. If at all he happens to be serving a regime that is not popular to some must not make him an open field for any kind of description that befits our will.
Contrary to what brother Shaka said, Kabba did a splendid job in the KSA and in the Foreign service he did what many could not do before him.
Proof is that his replacement was soon replaced yet again by another SOS.
Anyway I have noticed how little tolerance there is still around in this forum whenever one speaks in favor of a person not liked by others, concluding me to decide to eclipse myself again from this forum.
God bless you Kabba, your good work will not be lost on many of us.
Peace to all. |
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shaka
996 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2006 : 03:39:50
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| Is this the same old Son of Haile. You are freaking me out now big bro. What is happening to you man? I just hope that you are not cosying up to these corrupt imbeciles and low life, because they will corrupt to the last bone in your body. I mean these guy will sell their own mothers to stay in the good books of the emperor, while looting our meagre resources to the last butut. These gluttons have drown themselve deep into the corruption quagmire and washed off every bit of dignity left on them. They know no other way to survive than crawling to the emperor to kiss his backside. Just watching them turn into poor beggars and destitute zombies, knocking from door to door for crumbs and left-overs, every time Jammeh sacks them is enough to make you sick. The fact that they can't get any job or keep one tells you that they are not worthy to hold high goverment positions in the first place. A man who is good enough to hold the post of a minister of government is good enough to get a job of equal status after being sacked by the president. Unless ofcourse you are not qualified for that position in the first place. Otherwise what is the need to cry, soliciting marabouts or people still close to the president to beg and pray on their behalf for Jammeh's reprieve and favour. I am really dissapointed in you SOH. Please stay away from Bajo least he contaminate you with his corruption disease. To Bajo and anyone who have lost favour with the emperor i would like to say: welcome to the poor side of town and no sympathies from me. By the way SOH can you please educate a bit about the tremendous job that Bajo have done in KSA and the foreign office. Next time you see him can you tell him my neighbour wants to know why he had to crawl from home to home begging for access to their toilet because the wife or the children seem to be better sprinters (when it comes to queuing for their only toilet) after stuffing themselves with "yappi gelem" from Mecca. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2006 : 10:56:20
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Originally posted by shaka
Is this the same old Son of Haile. You are freaking me out now big bro. What is happening to you man? I just hope that you are not cosying up to these corrupt imbeciles and low life, because they will corrupt to the last bone in your body. I mean these guy will sell their own mothers to stay in the good books of the emperor, while looting our meagre resources to the last butut. These gluttons have drown themselve deep into the corruption quagmire and washed off every bit of dignity left on them. They know no other way to survive than crawling to the emperor to kiss his backside. Just watching them turn into poor beggars and destitute zombies, knocking from door to door for crumbs and left-overs, every time Jammeh sacks them is enough to make you sick. The fact that they can't get any job or keep one tells you that they are not worthy to hold high goverment positions in the first place. A man who is good enough to hold the post of a minister of government is good enough to get a job of equal status after being sacked by the president. Unless ofcourse you are not qualified for that position in the first place. Otherwise what is the need to cry, soliciting marabouts or people still close to the president to beg and pray on their behalf for Jammeh's reprieve and favour. I am really dissapointed in you SOH. Please stay away from Bajo least he contaminate you with his corruption disease. To Bajo and anyone who have lost favour with the emperor i would like to say: welcome to the poor side of town and no sympathies from me. By the way SOH can you please educate a bit about the tremendous job that Bajo have done in KSA and the foreign office. Next time you see him can you tell him my neighbour wants to know why he had to crawl from home to home begging for access to their toilet because the wife or the children seem to be better sprinters (when it comes to queuing for their only toilet) after stuffing themselves with "yappi gelem" from Mecca.
Shaka,
I think you are being unfair to SOH. The guy said what he knew about Kaaba so be it. That's the part of Kaaba he knows and that's what he said. I also know Kaaba to an extent. This Gambia is a small one. You are either classmate, schoolmates, a friend's friend etc. I think in this bantaba the essence is to share what you know and allow others to say what they too know about the subject. All the discussion in bantaba should be done in sane manner with mutual respect. Kaaba as an ordinary citizen is a down-to-earth fellow, God-fearing and modest. His competence as a civil servant i don't know anything about that. And SHAKA what is this YAPPI GELEM? Before i left home(Gambia) for UK i know that RAM Carcasses from KSA where brought annually to give to the poor and that has been going on for the past 20yrs or so as my memory serves. I do however agree with you that if someone is sacked by Jammeh and he/she is worth her/his salt should be able to get a decent job. But people like Kaaba because of their peculiar background (Security/ Armed Forces) its difficult for them to get a decent job on home soil. Peace. |
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Cornelius
Sweden
1051 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2006 : 16:53:00
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As Cardinal Rex Lawson says, “ Nah so ah see am O!”
This is the malaise that characterizes many an African Forum, social-beneficial criticism of persons in high and known low standing with the emperors of some lands in the shadows or taking umbrage cast by the King of America as Donovan sang
” Save my soul, save it soon,
the King of America sang in swoon.”
Sometimes a personally-edged critique of a publicly identifiable friend or foe, is low-down and murderously vindictive in disparagement and character assassination – even as a personal example and not of benefit to the community, Bantaba in cyberspace or even a more inclusive Diaspora nation.
Social interaction doesn’t have to be conservative. We are free to create the kind of environment that we like to live in.
The social and personal is the essence of keeping good company. When at this late hour, we are united in a sense of purpose – whether such personalised and exemplary criticism of a general free free system helps move things forward or not is for us to decide. Creating this kind of environment - lashon Hara - in Bantaba can inevitably lead to quarrels
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient-menuext&ie=UTF-8&q=lashon+Hara
“This Gambia is a small one. You are either classmate, schoolmates, a friend's friend etc. “ (MADIBA)
And who was it who said, “Next time you see him can you tell him my neighbour wants to know why he had to crawl from home to home begging for access to their toilet because the wife or the children seem to be better sprinters (when it comes to queuing for their only toilet) after stuffing themselves with "yappi gelem" from Mecca.” ?
Here is a good example of what I mean by respect and disrespect on display in a Sierra Leone community and what we may learn from it . Like Job, life goes on some burdens bent by the camel’s back:
http://www.hwforums.com/2179/
"Nothing in the way but another day. Still they'll push it out and say, what they say, " No No NO!" ( Sly Stone)
Every time he gives them an intellectual beating, they ban him.
25 times banned, but Madiba, I myself, I'm free to join anyone one of them when I'm in the mood for kicking #SS
The question is one of the rigidity of lashon hara in the political -the publico-domain for the good governement of us the esteemed citizens - all - but not by mutual consent. In vilifying politicians and their clients, are we in our spiritual rights, publicly to one another?
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shaka
996 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2006 : 23:16:04
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Madiba, i wasn't being unfair to SOH but was rather being fair to myself. When Every Mbye claimed that the emperor could do no wrong and that he is a down to earth, humble person who deserves to rule without an opposition, doesn't make Jammeh a saint in my eyes. No disrespect but i did not remember you saying "so be it" and that Every Mbye was speaking from personal view about Jammeh. Where is the democracy here?. Should critism be beyond some?
Atleast Mr Mbye defended his position with what he believed was the positive actions of the emperor where as SOH hailed LKB as a man of "dignity and honesty" while emphasising that "no one can take that away from him". Maybe trying to justify his belief would have helped a lot. SOH equally villified some members of Jammeh's cabinet as well as his close circle in the past especially the Singhateh brothers without so much of a fuss from you guys. Are you telling me that there is no one who bilieved that Singahateh is a man of dignity and honesty? If my memory serves me right, a lady called Amy used to have this very belief and felt she was being hounded of this forum because some people were against her opinion. SOH was one of those very persons who did not share her opinion then. Was he being unfair to Amy then?
The "yappi gelem" issue is a different thing. The fact was that many people in the Gambia develop stomach upset every time they consume this charity meat from KSA. The big joke in town was that this couldn't no ordinary mutton. So it was widely alledged that it was camel meat instead, something that was alien to our digestive system. Was my sense of humour that dry? Ok no more jokes from me then. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 00:01:28
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Originally posted by shaka
Madiba, i wasn't being unfair to SOH but was rather being fair to myself. When Every Mbye claimed that the emperor could do no wrong and that he is a down to earth, humble person who deserves to rule without an opposition, does make Jammeh a saint in my eyes. No disrespect but i did not remember you saying "so be it" and that Every Mbye speaking from personal view about Jammeh. Where is the democracy here?. Should critism be beyond some?
Atleast Mr Mbye defended his position with what he believed was the positive actions of the emperor where as SOH hailed LKB as a man of "dignity and honesty" while emphasising that "no one can take that away from him". Maybe trying to justify his belief would have helped a lot. SOH equally villified some members of Jammeh's cabinet as well as his close circle in the past especially the Singhateh brothers without so much of a fuss from you guys. Are you telling me that there is no one who bilieved that Singahateh is a man of dignity and honesty? If my memory serves me right, a lady called Amy used to have this very belief and felt she was being hounded of this forum because some people were against her opinion. SOH was one of those very persons who did not share her opinion then. Was he being unfair to Amy then?
The "yappi gelem" issue is a different thing. The fact was that many people in the Gambia develop stomach upset every time they consume this charity meat from KSA. The big joke in town was that this couldn't no ordinary mutton. So it was widely alledged that it was camel meat instead, something that was alien to our digestive system. Was my sense of humour that dry? Ok no more jokes from me then.
Shaka,
The difference between SOH and Kaaba's and Every Mbye's and Jammeh, is that SOH is using a 'private' forum in cyberspace. Whilst Every Mbye is using a state instrument which is sustained by public funds so his utterances must not be biased. If he goes to state house on private visit and sings Jammeh's praises that's no problem. If you ask me about what i know about Jammeh or Singhateh i can tell you.
Both Jammeh and Singhateh have done good to some people that i can attest to. I don't endorse Jammeh 100% but it would be totally dis-honest to say Jammeh or Singhateh is no good or are angels.
The 'yappi gelem' issue i meant no disrespect to yoour joke. It was a clarification i was simply looking for. So if my input has upset you anyway , my excuses i didn't mean to. And please continue to contribute. Bantaba is a forum where we disagree to agree. Good night. |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 01:30:54
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Guys the purpose of our debate is to educate each other on issues and to also scrutinize our public officials for accountability purposes. If you go back and read the questions that were asked on Kaba, I think they are as valid as ever.
If anyone know what Kaba did good or bad let us know. We know there are many of our so called politicians who have allowed themselves to be used over and over again against their own people. Has Kaba infact being used by the Jammeh regime? If so, then we can critisize him like any other public official.
Once again if anyone cannot stand the heat on this forum then you are probably not fit to contribute on the forum. It is an exchange of ideas and people don't have to agree to what I have to say.
One thing I know though, we should all be respectful in our debates. If someone calls us names we should respond with decency and substance on the issues. You cannot just say Ms. so and so is a decent human being without giving us evidence. Who knows the relationship between SOH and the subject Kaba? So SOH, it is your responsibility to clear the air what you know about Kaba. Would you tell us what you know about Kaba's role as a foreign affairs secretary? Specifically, what role did he play in deportation of our youths?
It is not honest to imply that all gambian forums are full of malice and insults. We have some decent people who come to the forum to educate people. In any group there are people who go over board but that does not make us indecent people.
Bring your ideas and not emotions.
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Baldeh,
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