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serenata



Germany
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Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  15:46:31  Show Profile Send serenata a Private Message
Thanks, Babylon. Naomi Klein is excellent.

I understand if someone feels very uneasy about this situation, and I fear well meaning people like gambiabev still cling to the hope that their world is 'just' in the end.

Sorry, it is not. This is the fact we all have to live with as long as we don't abolish this injustice.
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ranga



USA
149 Posts

Posted - 14 Oct 2006 :  08:50:29  Show Profile  Visit ranga's Homepage Send ranga a Private Message
seranata, Babylon, I agree that many multinationals make a lot of money in Africa and hence perhaps like the status quo. However, there are many well-meaning people and institutions. Beyond Plumpy'nut, I do not know much about Nutriset. Do you suspect their motives, since they make money in Niger? Is there any Western company you like? Is every profitable company doing business in Africa striving to keep Africa poor? While you make good, plausible points, your writings imply extreme positions painting all of the West with one brush.

T.K. "Ranga" Rengarajan
Founder, Geoseed Project
http://www.geoseedproject.com
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Babylon



Sweden
691 Posts

Posted - 14 Oct 2006 :  13:56:21  Show Profile Send Babylon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ranga

Is there any Western company you like?


Yes, actually there is atleast one company. Edun has my full support, what they are all about you can find out at: www.edun.ie Go to the FAQs section. (or here is the direct link: www.edun.ie/faq.asp )
Also the organisation www.data.org is one of my favorites. Why? Because they seem sincere and really want to make a difference.
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Babylon



Sweden
691 Posts

Posted - 14 Oct 2006 :  14:29:53  Show Profile Send Babylon a Private Message
Or maybe I should just put some info about Edun right here for those who are too tired to press any link buttons...




ABOUT EDUN - HISTORY

EDUN is a socially conscious clothing company created by Ali Hewson and Bono with New York clothing designer Rogan Gregory. Two years in the planning before its launch in spring 2005. The company aims to bring the issue of sustainable employment to the world of catwalks and high fashion. This is conscious consumerism, with a radical and crucially stylish twist.

EDUN grew out of a desire to shift the focus away from aid in the developing world, particularly Africa, to trade. It is an attempt to help deliver the fishing rod rather than the fish. For instance, 'Africa has lost six percent of the world trade since the Seventies.' Ali points out. 'If they could regain one per cent of that, Africa would earn $70 billion a year. They currently receive only $22 billion a year in aid.'

EDUN is utilizing locally-run factories in Africa, South Africa and India. 'These facilities have all been personally inspected and approved by the EDUN team, ensuring that they operate on sound business and ethical bases. EDUN is a for-profit initiative with an attempt to create a business model others will want to replicate, which will encourage reinvestment in the work force of the developing world.

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gambiabev

United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Oct 2006 :  15:52:47  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Babylon, I agree these types of businesses are a good model to work from.BUT will the profits trickle down to the poor that need them? Or will managers and owners be the only beneficiaries? I suppose if they create income and pay tax then the money can be dedirect by the government.
Do you trust the Gambia government to take over from aid agencies and provide the help and support that is needed?
If not, no matter how much profit is made you will still need outside agencies as a voice for the poor.
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ranga



USA
149 Posts

Posted - 14 Oct 2006 :  22:01:55  Show Profile  Visit ranga's Homepage Send ranga a Private Message
Babylon, I love EDUN. Thank you for introducing them to the Bantaba. They seem to be "doing good by doing well".

T.K. "Ranga" Rengarajan
Founder, Geoseed Project
http://www.geoseedproject.com
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