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kassma
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 Posted - 10 Sep 2006 : 01:32:00
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Originally posted by Momodou
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Originally posted by Babylon
No she is not a Gambian, I think she is biracial and from Angola.
Here itīs not a crime to be a prostitute, itīs only criminal to buy sex. The clients are the guilty ones according to Swedish law. This law came in -99.
Thanks for the information.
BTW, I searched the internet and found the following from http://www.justicewomen.com/cj_sweden.html :
Sweden's Groundbreaking 1999 Legislation
In 1999, after years of research and study, Sweden passed legislation that a) criminalizes the buying of sex, and b) decriminalizes the selling of sex. The novel rationale behind this legislation is clearly stated in the government's literature on the law:
"In Sweden prostitution is regarded as an aspect of male violence against women and children. It is officially acknowledged as a form of exploitation of women and children and constitutes a significant social problem... gender equality will remain unattainable so long as men buy, sell and exploit women and children by prostituting them."
In addition to the two pronged legal strategy, a third and essential element of Sweden's prostitution legislation provides for ample and comprehensive social service funds aimed at helping any prostitute who wants to get out, and additional funds to educate the public. As such, Sweden's unique strategy treats prostitution as a form of violence against women in which the men who exploit by buying sex are criminalized, the mostly female prostitutes are treated as victims who need help, and the public is educated in order to counteract the historical male bias that has long stultified thinking on prostitution. To securely anchor their view in firm legal ground, Sweden's prostitution legislation was passed as part and parcel of the country's 1999 omnibus violence against women legislation.
wow, that really is groundbreaking, i hope other countries follow and copy this legislation |
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kassma
334 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2006 : 01:50:56
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Originally posted by jambo
the topic of this forum is the older white women with black young men and how it portrays gambia in a bad light.
you cannot make it illegal, butRanga is right you can make an "awareness campaign". I would like more of the hotels to stop them coming into the hotels, there are restaurants and bars to have a drink in.
i'm not even sure i want to comment on this, but i cant help myself:
although its disgusting what these "bumpsters" are doing, and it is an embarassment to Gambians, but what about it being an embarassingment to these white women who are going to countries looking for sex. in this situation, these white women or whoever, are exploiting poor people in developing countries, that is the issue that really should be addressed. |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2006 : 04:36:20
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| YOW MEE KASSMA. |
There is no god but Allah |
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Eve
Gambia
344 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2006 : 10:50:12
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| That's right Kassma, they should be more ashamed. |
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snuggels
960 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2006 : 16:32:51
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Continually running through this thread is that the male tourist are the bad guys. What about the other side of the coin. Little or nothing has been said about the Gambia girls that exploit the tourist and its not just the street girls. But basicaly both are doing it for the same reason. To get a decent meal or bed for the night The ultimte being possibly to use the tourist to get a visa to escape their situation and a better life
So I think there is a broader issue untill the country has a decent economy and jobs. Even if new laws are made I dont think the situation would improve much as people will do what they have to do to survive. |
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ranga
USA
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Posted - 10 Sep 2006 : 19:25:41
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Snuggels, you're right on. Individuals do what is in their self-interest. The only question here is whether the actions of a few hurt many. If so, it makes sense for the many to curb the actions of the few.
It appears that the actions of the few Gambians hurts the reputation of the Gambian tourist industry and hurts the livelihood of many Gambians. On the other hand, the actions of a few tourists has very little impact on their countries of origin.
Embarrassment is a different matter altogether. It appears that none of the individuals feel any embarrassment, since their activities seem to be publicly known.
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T.K. "Ranga" Rengarajan
Founder, Geoseed Project
http://www.geoseedproject.com
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kassma
334 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2006 : 05:14:47
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| the sad thing about this is, every year, the gambian government keeps on discussing how to increase or bring attention to the tourist industry. it bothers me because i would hate for gambia to become another hawaii where the culture is os watered down and basically only for show. we need a leader, an educated one that understands economics. |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2006 : 14:50:16
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kassma, you have a leader who understands commerce but refuses to do anything about it. the sos for tourism is well aware of the situation. I would not believe she is not kept up to date, but she has a different agenda.
Not sure when you last visited the tourist areas, but in the senegambia main region there is a slot machine arcade, an irish pub and and english bar. hotels reanging from 5 to 2 star hotels plus self catering.
Why you build this you have to cater for all eventualities but you can get rid of riff raff, what good are they for the ecomony.
NOTHING, look back at some of the posting, people are starting to talk about Gambia in a different light, the posting here was about a TV show.
When it gets that far you are in trouble.
GET RID OF THE RIFF RAFF, i still say if they cleared away the non-gambians (other african nationals things would be quieter) Gambians will still speak to you but there would not be the agression.
Secondly someone mentioned that prostitution was a result of economic factors.
The government could pay better wages definately and create some jobs.
It will go the way of hawaii or other commercial places if they do not take control of the situation, they can do it, but do not want to.
something wrong if they cannot control the nasty element that is creeping into gambian tourism. |
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kassma
334 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 01:31:52
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| again, i feel powerless, maybe one day i'll run for president or something... |
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Newfy
Western Samoa
462 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 07:30:57
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which hawaii are you talking about? have you been to Waianae or Kau?
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Newfy
Western Samoa
462 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 07:32:56
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or Kamakani or Makaweli?
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The law an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
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Newfy
Western Samoa
462 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 07:37:38
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| its true as a result of the tourist there are a number of areas which have become overdeveloped as a result of time shares/condo's (yuck) and spoil the land, but not only is it the influence of the tourist driving up the cost of a house ($800,000 average) but also the people who sold the house (the realtor, the owner etc;) so its a whole bunch of people who depend on this for these jobs are their bread and butter...until economy diversifies, many are stuck with tourism as their mainstay.. |
The law an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
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Newfy
Western Samoa
462 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 07:42:23
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| and before tourism for locals their families worked on the plantation and lived in the camps inorder to grow sugar cane and pineapple before and after the annexation of Hawaii to the U.S. |
The law an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Mohandas Gandhi |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 13:47:59
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Kassma, if you cannot run for president, perhaps you could help by education or business, set up workshops, give people a skill, start a trade or something.
people like yourself should visit Gambia at least once a year. The locals need good gambians to come back and help. |
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kassma
334 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2006 : 08:35:01
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Originally posted by jambo
Kassma, if you cannot run for president, perhaps you could help by education or business, set up workshops, give people a skill, start a trade or something.
people like yourself should visit Gambia at least once a year. The locals need good gambians to come back and help.
Jambo, believe me i want to go back, but every time i tell my parents, they are very quick to point our that many do want to go back, after they go back, they eventually return to the states or europe cause nothing gets better, especially with the gov't. my mom told me that when you come back, the gov't targets you cause they know that you're used to free speech and might start to incite others. no matter what though, i have made up my mind to one day do business |
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