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Eve



Gambia
344 Posts

Posted - 28 Aug 2006 :  12:07:12  Show Profile Send Eve a Private Message
As for my mother in law, her family are always happy to see the down fall of Gambia, as this coming on TV, her sister telling everyone watching TV, to see how we the Gambians do to whites with the bomters, i think it's also shame to them, as she got married to a gambian guy with 20yr different, i personally will never marriage to a guy am older even for a month. i prefer the man is older than me and not for 10yr 2.

gambian
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Eve



Gambia
344 Posts

Posted - 28 Aug 2006 :  12:26:35  Show Profile Send Eve a Private Message
BUMSTERS are really doing something, if you see the picture they put on the
CINE TELE REVUE, the old fat white lady and a skinny black man working at the beach size. 2bad.

Maybe they may happy together, but how are the people watching this emission gonna see it? as toubab1020 said.



gambian
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toubab1020



12314 Posts

Posted - 28 Aug 2006 :  14:25:19  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Eve

BUMSTERS are really doing something, if you see the picture they put on the
CINE TELE REVUE, the old fat white lady and a skinny black man working at the beach size. 2bad.

Maybe they may happy together, but how are the people watching this emission gonna see it? as toubab1020 said.

As I think we all know,money and work are the core problems,no work = no money,so a culture develops to try to find alternatives,what alternatives there are I don't know,anyone any ideas?

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Newfy



Western Samoa
462 Posts

Posted - 28 Aug 2006 :  21:38:36  Show Profile Send Newfy a Private Message
fear eats the soul.
maybe you see a fat old white lady and a black man, but its possible there are good people who are caring. you can't judge a book by a cover.

The law an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Mohandas Gandhi
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timluk

Finland
6 Posts

Posted - 28 Aug 2006 :  22:06:03  Show Profile Send timluk a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ranga

Media in the west is a for-profit business. They need viewers and readers. They use any sensational story to get their viewers. A rational balanced story is rare in the media. Therefore, there is no need to worry about shows that may not be complementary about Gambians. Goodness knows there are so many more stories portraying the negative side of the West as well. They suffer from the same sensationalism.

The fact of the matter is, it does not really matter what they say on Belgian TV about Gambians in the news! It is what Gambians think of themselves that matters a lot.




Rich west lives by sensational stories of poor third world and gives people good conscience after giving "help" to those suffering people on news.
It is propaganda what western media produces to keep people blind.
It is easier (maybe) to judge news about west and not to believe sensations compared to sensations of something that you don't know anything.

I agree that it doesn't matter what they say in news but I also think that it effects to prejudices that people have about Gambians (or anybody). I just hope that it doesn't effect Gambians themselves.

It is kind of sad to hear about bumsters very first time when hearing about Gambia. Aren't those bumsters anyway bigger problem to imperialistic tourists than for Gambians?

Just a thought in my mind without real experience of bumsters.

"The rich will do anything for the poor but get off their backs."
K.M.
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toubab1020



12314 Posts

Posted - 28 Aug 2006 :  22:57:05  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by timluk

quote:
Originally posted by ranga

Media in the west is a for-profit business. They need viewers and readers. They use any sensational story to get their viewers. A rational balanced story is rare in the media.


Rich west lives by sensational stories of poor third world and gives people good conscience after giving "help" to those suffering people on news.

IIt is kind of sad to hear about bumsters very first time when hearing about Gambia. Aren't those bumsters anyway bigger problem to imperialistic tourists than for Gambians?

Just a thought in my mind without real experience of bumsters.

"The rich will do anything for the poor but get off their backs."
K.M.




No real experience of bumsters Hmmmmmmmmmmm, have you then got real experience of "imperialistic tourists" then? a discussion without left wing socialist dogma might help.(or will it?)





"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Newfy



Western Samoa
462 Posts

Posted - 28 Aug 2006 :  22:59:09  Show Profile Send Newfy a Private Message
Maybe some of us might consider writing letters to the media about this inaccurate portrayal of the Gambia and its people after watching the program???

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timluk

Finland
6 Posts

Posted - 28 Aug 2006 :  23:13:24  Show Profile Send timluk a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by toubab1020

No real experience of bumsters Hmmmmmmmmmmm, have you then got real experience of "imperialistic tourists" then? a discussion without left wing socialist dogma might help.(or will it?)



Well.. I don't know if any discussion or thinking will help without actions but isn't that a fact that tourists from western countries are more often "imperialistic tourists" than others?
What is real experience about "imperialistic tourists" - being one or seeing what it may have done?
Well, we do not need to get in this train as it is not going to terminal we want to go or is it?

I just say that I night have a clue what tourism may effect at worse but I don't have clue are bumsters a problem or not.... just hearsay.

Anyway my question still is - in other format, without "left wing socialist dogma" - are the bumsters problem for tourists because of tourists or both?
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 28 Aug 2006 :  23:26:56  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
I believe that Bumpsters are there because there is a demand for them one way or another. If there is no demand, they would have since disappeared. No amount of policing the beach could solve the problem.

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Newfy



Western Samoa
462 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2006 :  06:10:57  Show Profile Send Newfy a Private Message
I don't know about Western imperialist tourists. Sure there are plenty only out for themselves but then there are those who would want to go gently when they visit a place from their home and be respectful of the host culture.

About bumsters, Kons hit the nail on the head. economics.

If you think things are bad,read about Cambodia system..
Children for Sale.

http://www.ilo.org/public/english/region/asro/bangkok/child/trafficking/

UN Resolution and Programs.
http://www.ilo.org/public/english/region/asro/bangkok/child/trafficking/

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ranga



USA
149 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2006 :  06:42:03  Show Profile  Visit ranga's Homepage Send ranga a Private Message
timluk, I don't condone negative stories about Gambia, unless it portrays the reality accurately. It is not a good thing for the image of Gambia. I'm only suggesting that it need not be a point of shame for Gambians at large.


T.K. "Ranga" Rengarajan
Founder, Geoseed Project
http://www.geoseedproject.com
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ranga



USA
149 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2006 :  06:43:42  Show Profile  Visit ranga's Homepage Send ranga a Private Message
Newfy, you have a good idea. After watching the program, if you still feel it is an inaccurate portrayal, it is worth denouncing the TV station as sensational.

T.K. "Ranga" Rengarajan
Founder, Geoseed Project
http://www.geoseedproject.com
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timluk

Finland
6 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2006 :  08:08:37  Show Profile Send timluk a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ranga

timluk, I don't condone negative stories about Gambia, unless it portrays the reality accurately. It is not a good thing for the image of Gambia. I'm only suggesting that it need not be a point of shame for Gambians at large.



I understand. And my point is that it is as well a shame of all viewers who believe bad things without doubt.

It is interesting to read this forum and it gives me different kind of images of Gambia... whether they are correct or not but it really makes me wanting to experience Gambian cultur as much as it is possible to experience as being a tourist.
And same time this is way to get more information about Gambia to be not just tourist but person who also wants to know about different cultures and maybe help people if that is possible.

Maybe you know dear ranga or somebody else?
Is it smart to visit schools (or how to do it) and maybe donate paper, pens and stuff like that or should I do it some other way.
I have red that tourist operators do trips to SOS children villages but I have doubts that is it the best or good way to visit those villages and schools.
Anyway I red that there is need for that kind of help, is that true?
Has anybody any experience about that or maybe other point of view.
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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2006 :  15:43:52  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

I believe that Bumpsters are there because there is a demand for them one way or another. If there is no demand, they would have since disappeared. No amount of policing the beach could solve the problem.


Kondorong,
There has never been a demand for Bumsters in the Gambia. They have always been a problem for the turists. The Tour operators are there to employ turist guides. There are many problems involved that we must address. Children instead of going to classes go to bums is not right at all. When I was a teacher in the Gambia, all children who miss classes because of bumstering will have to stay after school for extra studies for 1 week or so. I realy discrouged my students from that. The second thing is who knows the PEDO, or the rapists. The Pedofiles were able to operate in the Gambia because we saw between the fingers when our children follow the turist. There has been a publication from Belgium on this topic. When I was a kid it was very unpopular to "CHINGS" as the word in wollof is. My father used to punish us if he was told or if he saw us following the turists. There have been many problems with the Bumsters. There have been many police cases in Banjul between the turist and the Bumsters. I dont support it and will never encourage it. I am sorry for that Kons.
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Newfy



Western Samoa
462 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2006 :  21:29:39  Show Profile Send Newfy a Private Message
Cine Tele Revue website... maybe theres a contact email address where some Bantaba readers could write them about their feelings and views about the TV programming on the bumsters

http://www.cinetelerevue.be/



The law an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
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