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Nyarikangbanna

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Aug 2006 :  01:55:16  Show Profile Send Nyarikangbanna a Private Message
Once again Halifa has exhibited his arrogance by completely ruling out party led Alliance even though it is crystal clear to everyone that the NADD formula is simply unworkable. His claim that a propose UDP/NRP/NADD Alliance would be illegal is not only wrong but absolutely silly. There is no clause or provision in the constitution that prohibits the creation of Alliances. What is barred is individual MP membership of two or more parties.

The reason why NADD Alliance ran into trouble with the law last time was because it was registered with the IEC under an electoral law that was only applicable to political parties. That is why the Supreme Court had to construe their registration as amounting to registering a political party. This also meant that NADD MPs had to be expelled from Parliament not because of the registration per se but owing to individual MP membership of two separate registered parties [their original parties and NADD]. Alhagi Ousainu was not implying in his letter, a return to that scenario. In fact he warned against it in the first place. All what he was saying was lets come together in a party led Alliance and fight APRC. That was what happened in 2001 and they never ran into trouble with the law. The man does not only speak as a politician but also as a Barrister. He knows the law like his own name. In fact he is undoubtedly one of the best lawyers in the Gambia. This is something not even APRC supporters would hesitate to acknowledge. So let Halifa stop fooling himself. This man is not his match when it comes to Law.

The UDP/NRP has provided a mechanism that will successfully give rise to a credible constitutional reform. They pledge a constitution review commission whose mandate among others would be to hold consultation with Gambians so as to determine what sort of constitution they want, not what Darboe or Halifa wants. They would then present a draft to our representatives in parliament who would scrutinise, amend or adjust if necessary, and then ratify it. It would then be sent back to the people for approval in a referendum. Who can rise his finger up and say this is not a standard democratic practice other than those who think Gambians are too intellectually inferior to determine their own destiny? Well they are wrong and the UDP/NRP knows that. That is why Alhagi Ousainu stated:‘It is our belief that only the Gambian people can determine how the affairs of this country should be administered and all other actors are to abide by the dictates and the will of the people.’ Forget about the one term limit NADD is obsessed with because it is simply not a democratic norm. If you ask most Gambians, they would say we want a two term limit. That is what UDP/NRP subscribed to because that is what represents the wishes and aspirations of most Gambians. Besides, that is the trend most democracies are moving towards and Gambians do not want to be left behind.

The idea that UDP could be put under pressure so that it can return to NADD as orchestrated by OJ, is fanciful. It will never happen. They have made it clear that they do not subscribe to a supra-party style alliance or what Halifa would call an umbrella party. They want an alliance in its natural sense as understood by the world that we live in. That is what Gambians called for, not the type imported from Mars. The Gambia is greater than NADD.

The problem our nation is faced with today is the self perpetuating rule of Jammeh and the dictatorial tendencies coupled with it. Think about the frequent and unwarranted arrests, unlawful detentions, false imprisonments, disappearances, torture, Press muzzling flouting of court orders. You name them. We certainly would not have any of these under a Darboe led government. He is just not the type you can associate those kinds of things with. The biggest political threat to all these nastiness is the one pose by UDP. That is a fact. What is also a fact is that, the threat needs re-enforcing and that is where the other parties are needed most. What we now need to do collectively is to follow the footsteps of Hon. Hamat Bah and his NRP party by re-enforcing that threat by way of creating a UDP led party alliance. Once the job is done and there is a Gambia without a president Jammeh, then we can take charge of our own destiny and then decide how we want our Seyfolu and Alkalolu to be chosen and the type of check and balance we want to see in our political system. Why would this not be acceptable to NADD? Halifa can have his opinion but am sorry UDP/NRP does not buy them. What is so serious about that is the UDP/NRP represent over two- third of those who want Jammeh out. Clearly a snub to their call is also a snub to the voice of a very good number of Gambians who aspire for change. To my utter surprise,it is coming from someone whose lyric is always ‘sovereignty of the people’. If it is education, UDP have twenty or more Halifa Sallahs. If it is principle, they have hundreds of Halifa Sallahs. If it is Arrogance, well we all have it in our own way but for now let’s keep it to ourselves and allow this project to go ahead. If NADD and Halifa are not up for a compromise, then the rest of us must begin to engage the people by explaining to them the issues at stake. The political wrangling must now stop. Time is simply not on our side.

Never underestimate the determination of a quite man -per Ian Duncan Smith MP [Former leader of her majesty's opposition-UK]



I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union.

ylowe



USA
217 Posts

Posted - 06 Aug 2006 :  05:57:23  Show Profile Send ylowe a Private Message
If the UDP/NRP alliance got hundreds of Halifa Sallahs where are they? We haven't seen them yet or maybe they are hiding when things get rough. They did not show the president(yaya) their principles but they can come out now since the winds of change are blowing. Halifa, Waa Juwara, etc, etc deserves thumps up and cannot be left out.
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Ebra



Gambia
268 Posts

Posted - 06 Aug 2006 :  07:29:58  Show Profile Send Ebra a Private Message
I am one of the hundred of Sallahs in the UDP/NRP. Nyarikangbala you hit the nail on the head. There are so many bais people here who hate to see any thing said against Halifa. Even the prophet was not like by all the people. Halifa have a wrong mission statement in politics. Had it been that his mission statements were right he would have won election in Serrekunda East during PPP regime. It is through UDP boycotting that Halifa won. They have been in politics for 20 years still can't get more than 2% of the votes. What is the problem? is it Halifa or the Gambian. Halifa is power greedy, because he has been struggling for that since in the early 80's. Halifa will not pull more than 5% in the coming election. If he does I will eat my head.
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ylowe



USA
217 Posts

Posted - 06 Aug 2006 :  10:13:10  Show Profile Send ylowe a Private Message
NO one is saying that Halifa is perfect all we are trying to say is that he is a man of good character and who got the interest of Gambia at heart. He might not be the president after twenty years of politics, but did contribute to the political consciousness of alot of youths in the Gambia. You guy needs to stop attacking the man and concentrate on putting the opposition together. Where were you (nyaks)during the struggle or may be you are just coming out of coma.

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Nyarikangbanna

United Kingdom
1382 Posts

Posted - 06 Aug 2006 :  13:15:49  Show Profile Send Nyarikangbanna a Private Message
Ylowe, thank you for your posting. You are right to say that Halifa is a man of good character. However, I must state that if it is good character, UDP/NRP have thousands of Halifa sallahs. It all depends on who is your cup of tea. So the issue is not who have moral superiority over the other. It is the plight of our nation Gambia which is the issue here.

We all know that the most effective way to bring about a peaceful political change in Gambia is through an effective opposition. It has been said over and over that none of the opposition camps is capable of doing this job alone but it is also acknowledged that the probability of the UDP/NRP pulling off the plug is far greater than that of NADD. This was clearly manifested in the Kombo East Bye-Election.

Since the UDP/NRP have made a commitment for providing people the chance of shaping their own destiny by proposing a constitutional Review Commission, what is now required is for NADD to re-enforce the threat they pose to APRC. Once there is victory, they [NADD] can be the check and balance within government and make sure that everything is transparent, accountable and executed to the latter. This should be our priority now.

No matter what we do we still have to inherit the constitution that gives what Halifa calls Monarchical powers to the president. Am sure Gambians don't want a monarchy. If we are to do away with that, we have to start from somewhere, and that is by way of asking the people what they want. What is bad with that? The political bickering and wrangling must now stop so that we can move on. Otherwise, it will be Yaya Jammeh for another five years.

Those of you thinking of a NADD plan 'B' are dreaming. Come another five years, you will have the same UDP, the same NRP and with the same leaderships intact. The only difference would be heightened hostilities between UDP/NRP and NADD and that is what Yaya Jammeh would exploit to realise his thirty year rule dream. Are we going to allow that? God forbid.


Never underestimate the determination of a quite man -per Ian Duncan Smith MP [Former leader of her majesty's opposition-UK]






I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union.
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Nyarikangbanna

United Kingdom
1382 Posts

Posted - 06 Aug 2006 :  13:59:16  Show Profile Send Nyarikangbanna a Private Message
Ylowe, just to add few things. You stated If the UDP/NRP alliance got hundreds of Halifa Sallahs where are they? We haven't seen them yet or maybe they are hiding when things get rough. They did not show the president(yaya) their principles but they can come out now since the winds of change are blowing. Halifa, Waa Juwara, etc, etc deserves thumps up and cannot be left out.’

I ask;

1.Who are those who came to the defence of the victims of the Brikama Mosque Crisis? Ans= the principled and conscience men and Women of the UDP
2.Who are those who came to the rescue of the terrorised villagers of Sikunda [Sikakunda 10 saga]? Ans= the principled and conscience men and Women of the UDP
3.Who are those who fought and won against the imposition of a seyfo on the people of Sami? Ans= the principled and conscience men and Women of the UDP
4.Who are those who fought in court for the protection of the independence and credibility of the IEC in the immediate aftermath of Bishop Johnson’s unceremonious removal? Ans= the principled and conscience men and Women of the UDP
5.Who are those who with vigour fought against the extreme police restriction on campaigning both politically and in court. Ans= the principled and conscience men and Women of the UDP
6.Who are those who for five good years have been the Army fighting for Lamin Waa juwara ‘s liberty and political freedom both politically and in court? Ans= the principled and conscience men and Women of the UDP

Please Ylowe, don’t take us ten years back. I do not want to continue this list any further. This is not about competition among the opposition personalities. It is about creating a collective and workable strategy to oust Jammeh so that my parents, brothers, sisters, uncles etc and those of yours can be at liberty to determine their own destiny. The ongoing vilification episode is not an option. So let’s put it to rest and move on.

Thanks for your thoughts anyway.

Never underestimate the determination of a quite man -per Ian Duncan Smith MP [Former leader of her majesty's opposition-UK]




I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union.
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Nyarikangbanna

United Kingdom
1382 Posts

Posted - 06 Aug 2006 :  20:45:34  Show Profile Send Nyarikangbanna a Private Message
Saka, thanks for your posting. The issue is not about who have the best idea. The point is Nadd and UDP/NRP will always have their differences but we don't want that to render the common desire to remove Jammeh obsolete. That is why UDP/NRP decided that the ball should be put in the court of the people. In order words, the people themselves should determine how they want to be governed and all the players should abide by that dictate. Halifa and Ousainu are just two Gambians. They can keep their opinions to themselves and let the people decides their own fate. That is why a constitutional reform regime through which everyone can have an input is suggested. The bye-product of that process would be the supreme law from which all government agencies and officials would derive their powers. If the opposition can convince the people to give them a mandate through this way, surely we can be assured that if they abuse that mandate, the people will kick them out and bring in other capable Gambians. That is where people’s accountability comes into play. Am sure you will not say Gambians are not capable of doing this.

If you look at the bottom of the letter Alhagi Ousainu sent to Nadd, it extended an invitation to them to engage in talks. So, clearly the 124 words[ Am not sure if you got that right]you talked about are mere skeletal foundation to a fruitful discussion. They are not intended to be comprehensive because that would amount to imposition. That is why even Halifa does not appear to fully understand where Darboe is coming from. What he should have done was to accept the invitation for talks. By this way, they can debate the issues comprehensively and perhaps reach an agreement but no. He chose arrogance to rebuke them.

UDP is the biggest threat to APRC. That is a fact. What we now need to do is to re-enforce that threat in order to oust Jammeh. This vilification culture will not take us anywhere.

Can I also say that you are wrong to state that UDP do not have a manifesto? Manifesto is a requirement under the electoral law which every party has to meet before they are allowed to operate. I do not have a copy but I know it exists somewhere and it is your job to find out. I guess the reason why we are not hearing anything about manifestos is because everyone is occupied with the task of putting up a united opposition against Jammeh. Even Nadd do not speak in terms of a manifesto. All what we hear is MOU which is simply akin to UDP or NRP speaking in terms of their respective party constitutions.

Demba Baldehbanna, I know you are obsessed with my person. Nevertheless, I hope this message is a fitting response to your earlier posting. Otherwise, please chronicle the issues you want me to address and I shall be your servant.

Time is not on our side. Let's do this job and get done with Jammeh.

Thank you lot for your thoughts.


‘Never underestimate the determination of a quite man’ -per Ian Duncan Smith MP [Former leader of her majesty's opposition-UK]

I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union.
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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 07 Aug 2006 :  00:16:08  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
THE ISSUE IS NOT ABOUT WHO HAVE THE BEST IDEA(SS.DAFFEH)....Thank you Mr Daffeh, atleast i understand your line of thinking from the above and i believe this is unfortunately the position of the UDP/NRP coalition as well. This is exactly where you got it all wrong. You lot seem to believe that we are all in it simply to get rid of Jammeh. This theory is as good as a coup d'etat. My position is that Jammeh is only a small part of part of the problem. The most important part is what you replace Dr Jammeh with. I believe this is also the contention of the NADD leadership. Therefore it is very much about who have the best ideas. Replacing Jammeh with another clueless ignoramus is a non starter in my part of the world.

The UDP/NRP proposition will only lead our dear country into anarchy just lurking in the corner in the event that Jammeh is successfully voted out of power because there will be no checks and balances to counter any immediate ensuing chaos. This is very dangerous way to go about a regime change. This is why contrary to UDP/NRP proposal that all fighting and arguements should stop until after a UDP/NRP/NADD coalition has successfully won the election, i would prefer that they trade blows now while presenting their ideas and conviction for the masses to distingish the doves from the birds of prey. What we are witnessing in the UDP/NRP alliance is a camp totally devoid of ideas to present on the table of negotiation hence their politics of numbers and "cakes that are unbaked" as well as a pathetic six-points proposal of a hundred and twenty or so words. The vision of gambians tearing each other to pieces as an act of revenge for wrongs done by a previous regime or fighting to recover lost pride and glory by looting our limited resource and enacting acts of impunity, tribalism and nepotism in the immediate aftermath of UDP/NRP/NADD alliance being voted into power is very scary situation indeed. I would rather have another ten years of Jammeh than such a scenario. After all it is not as if the man hasn't done a few good things durring his reign.

The question therefore is what do we do to avoid such a situation. This where the NADD memeorandum of understanding comes in handy. Don't tell me this is a NADD propaganda because the UDP/NRP alliance has so far failed to produce any theory to that effect while the NADD memorandum of understanding has addressed some of these issue, while welcoming any positive adjustments. Therefore the ball is on UDP/NRP's court to produce a better theory, tow the NADD line or go to hell.

The NADD agenda is to elect a flag bearer to lead a single five year term of reconcialition and reconstruction of the economy, the constitution, infrastructues and services to the masses while making sure that democratic institutions are in places to guard against the culture of impunity, corruption and dictatorship from ever happening again in the motherland. The fact that the UDP/NRP will have this position at all cost is very suspicious for there is no way any government can achieve its aims and ambitions in just a small period of time unless ofcourse if your aims is to loot and pillage the little that we have, five years is indeed a long time. Or as most people had begun to suspect, the UDP/NRP planned to tear up the memorandum of understanding after its chosen flagbearer is elected as president to fullfill his crazy dreams of "mansaship" as predicted by his grandfather. Lo and behold Mcbeth. Keep dreaming!!

THEREFORE MY DEAR MR DAFFEH, THIS IS AS MUCH ABOUT WHO'S GOT THE BEST IDEAS AS REGIME CHANGE.
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ylowe



USA
217 Posts

Posted - 07 Aug 2006 :  02:13:30  Show Profile Send ylowe a Private Message
There is no doubt that some people in the UDP/NRP camp said no to the tyrant and represented in court alot of gambians accused of bogus charges, but we need to understand that we are all in the struggle together.
All am trying to say is we need to stop attacking Halifa, Ousainou, etc. I was one of the first people to defend Ousainou when people started calling him a tribalist. Knowing that his father was with Pierre Njie, who was from a different tribe should tell us that he was not raise in that kind of environment.
The Zambian opposition alliance recently came up with a presidential candidate when everyone was saying that they will break up on issues of leadership. We can do the same brother(nyaks).
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Nyarikangbanna

United Kingdom
1382 Posts

Posted - 07 Aug 2006 :  02:31:27  Show Profile Send Nyarikangbanna a Private Message
saka, you have misconstrued my assertion that the issue is not about who have the best idea. We have not come to the issue of regime/system change yet. we are talking about opposition unity. I have said that the constitutional reform agenda offered by UDP/NRP is a good basis to achieve that. That is completely different from the programmes parties are offering. In fact none of them had a chance to articulate their programs because they are all occupied with the issue of opposition unity. [Please don't confuse a MOU with manifesto] Once this is achieved, they can put their heads together and provide a collectively agenda in terms of programmes that would not only lead to regime change but also system change. As for constitutional reform, am saying opinions are too polarised on that. so the best way is to provide a mechanism through which every Gambian can have an input in the determination of their own destiny. That is why it should be a basis for opposition unity and that is what UDP/NRP have offered.

In politics, you have to make compromise to succeed in achieving your aims and objectives. If you read Halifa's letter, you will agree with me that the tone is concoted with arrogance. That is not the way forward. What he should have done is to accept the invitation provided in UDP/NRP letter for talks. These things can then be extensively debated and all these slanders and misconceptions will be done away with. That way, we can move on and get done with Jammeh.

The rest of your article is complete nuts. I therefore wish to cap my response here.

Thank you for your thoughts

Never underestimate the determination of a quite man - per Ian Duncan Smith. [Former Leader of her Majesty's

I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union.
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dbaldeh

USA
934 Posts

Posted - 07 Aug 2006 :  05:24:28  Show Profile  Visit dbaldeh's Homepage Send dbaldeh a Private Message
Nyarikangbanna, Shaka is very right. Gambians should not go back ten years as you put it. We have no way of holding our elected officials accountable without knowing what they stand for. It is absolute nuts to advocate electing people before we know what they will bring with them. Do you think had Gambians known Jammeh was going to turn a butcher we would have embraced him after the coup? Absolutely not. All the works of accountability, transparency Jammeh and his junta made are zero now. So why would we allow a replica of that mistake?

I have no doubt there are hundreds of great Gambians in the UDP party, but their leadership has been as undecisive and pessimistic as we have ever seen. A leader must be able to make his or her own decisions. A leader cannot say because people call me to be a leader I will lead no matter what. This was exactly what Jawara did when he failed to step down after admitting failure in his leadership. The UDP leadership must be able to stand tall lead the Gambian people to their dreams. So far, all we have seen is put me there and I will make it right, how tell us?

As for Halifa he is decisive, humble, knowledgeable and willing to sacrifice his life for you and me. He has no material ambition whatsoever else he would have enjoying his life in the West like you and I. Give the man his dues as he is one of the most consistence politicians we have seen in our generation. By the way, who won the Serekunda seat this last by election. Oh, did UDP boycott that one too? I was not aware of that.

Gambians, say No to blanket amnesty for the President
Say no to another potential dictatorial regime.
Say No to those who wants to maintain the status Quo.
Say No to any politicians who cannot tell us what they stand for - period.

Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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BambaLaye



USA
100 Posts

Posted - 07 Aug 2006 :  16:18:42  Show Profile  Visit BambaLaye's Homepage Send BambaLaye a Private Message
Baldeh:

You are truly a voice of reason. Whoever fails to see the light in what NADD and Halifa is advocating for the future of our country must be filled with mush up in their skull. Like the Wollof will say "ken du jenda jaan si pah." Darboe and co. want us to buy their snake in a hole. We've been that route before, as you rightly pointed out. Gambians have gone beyond that point thanks to the optimism cultivated by the many months of enlightenment by NADD. These are selfless principled folks who've decided to make a sensible move; and move on they will.
Truth is, Ousainou had expected the flgbearership be handed to him on a platter. He went to that first meeting, hoping it won't take more than fifteen minutes; surprise, surprise, he got the drift when democracy slapped him on the face. He could not muster the challenge. He was spoiled by the UDP treatment over the years and expected the same from NADD. Like he always had, he expected the rest to do the dirty work for him, just as Hamat is doing for him now; same way Waa was doing his dirty work. Hamat on the other hand had always wanted to enjoy the limelight. He gets a kick out of being on the front page all the time, hence his ranting before thinking; something he is not going to get under NADD.

Not much time here, but revisit this topic later.



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kayjatta



2978 Posts

Posted - 07 Aug 2006 :  18:14:40  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
NYARIKANGBANNA:

THANKS FOR YOUR POSTINGS , EVEN THOUGH I FIND IT VERY ARROGANT NAD PARTISAN.
YOU HAVE CLEARLY IGNORED SEVERAL FACTS:
1) THE REASONS FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF NAAD IS THE GENERAL RECOGNITION THAT A DIVIDED OPPOSITION WILL NOT UNSEAT JAMMEH BASED ON THE PLURALITY OF VOTES. UDP/NRP SHOULD LEARN FROM THE RECENT KOMBO EAST BY-ELECTION.
2) DARBOE MAY BE A GOOD LAWYER BUT HE PARTICIPATED IN THE CREATION OF NADD ( AND A MEMO )WHOSE MEMBERSHIP JEOPARDISED THE LEGISLATIVE MEMBERSHIP OF HALIFA , HAMAT, AND KEMESSING. DIDN'T HE FORSEE THAT OR FROM THE ONSET DARBOE WAS STRUGGLING WITH BAD FAITH? DARBOE SIGNED THE DOCUMENTS THAT LED TO THE CRAETION OF NADD AND THEN LEFT IN PROTEST WHEN HE WAS NO SELECTED FLAG BEARER. STUPID AND SELFISH ISN'T ? WHAT HAS DARBOE GOT TO LOSE IN NADD?
3)NADD IS TO BE A TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT ONLY TO SET THE STAGE FOR FUTURE ELECTIONS. THAT IS WHY ONE FIVE YEAR TERM IS REQUIRED. THAT IS ALSO WHY IT DID NOT REALLY MATTER WHO BECOME NADD'S FLAG BEARER , BECAUSE THAT CANDIDATE WILL RETIRE FROM POLITICS AFTER FIVE YEARS. THE INSISTENCE OF DARBOE TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT IS CLEAR TESTIMONY THAT HE WANTS TO ENTRENCH HIMSELF LIKE JAMMEH AND JAWARA.

I ALSO WANT TO CAUTION HAMAT THAT IF HE DEPENDS HIS POLITICAL SUCCESS ON UDP AND DARBOE AS THEIR CURRENT ARRANGEMENT SEEMS TO INDICATE, HE IS DOOMED. IMMEDIATELY DARBOE ASSUMES THE PRESIDENCY HAMAT'S VICE PRESIDENCY IS LIKELY TO BE SHORT LIVED.
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 07 Aug 2006 :  18:29:51  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
I like Bantaba. Yesterday, Halifa was a saint, today he is being dissected. We must not be afraid to criticize our leaders NO MATTER WHO.

No one is above reproach and politicians should be taken for what they are shrewd but with their eyes on the ballots.

If we muster the courage to criticize our leadership then Gambia is slowly but surely heading towards genuine democracy.

I think Halifa has enjoyed a lot of political immunity for a long time. Putting him on the spot allows all of us to see what he is made of. I appreciate the courage SS Daffeh has taken and also all those who sent in a rejoinder. Like i said last week, no one is infallible and so is Halifa. NADD supporters especially those in the Diaspora seem to have drank a lot of the magic water and are blinded or refuse to see or accept that Halifa should also be taken with some pinch of salt. It is very essential to support ones candidate, but to refuse your candidate to be criticize is nothing less than a dictatorship.

This intolerance with NADD supporters unfortunately makes it very difficult for us to merge with any one especially when we are quick to point fingers at others but not ready for someone to point at us. I have no doubt in the integrity of Halifa, but I think it is the supporters who seem to invoke divine credentials. The man is humble and listens and takes criticism and also explains why he believes in what he believes in. The problem is the supporters who think he does not wink. We are always quick to take the high morale ground.

It very well reminds me of EK SARR the then MP for Lamin when he said in parliament "... to every nation, God sent his chosen people. To the people of Israel he sent Moses and to the people of the Gambia, he sent Jawara...". This line of sycophancy is in no small way similar to what we seem to attribute to the GREEN Boys who have also become more extreme in the believe that their candidate is right and blinded by any sign of discontent. The famous catch phrase SABOTEUR is synonymous to any one who has any doubt in the current leadership even if you are a party supporter.

This clampdown on criticism from our own is a dangerous road to take in a democracy. If we cannot or would not want to police ourselves, then we are creating a breeding ground for a de facto dictatorship. IF WE BELIEVE THAT A GOVERNMENT IS A SERVANT OF THE PEOPLE, THEN WE MUST ASLO BE PREPARED THAT IF WE SEEK TO TAKE ON THE ULTIMATE ROLE OF LEADING OUR PEOPLE, TO BE READY TO STAND UP TO SCRUTINY. It is nothing less than a job application and one has to undergo a selection process.
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kayjatta



2978 Posts

Posted - 07 Aug 2006 :  18:43:10  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
KONS :

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
IN FACT I TEND TO THINK THAT DEMOCRACY IS LARGELY PROVIDED TO THE PEOPLE BY THE CONSTITUTION AND NOT INDIVIDUAL PRESIDENTS. UNDER THE CURRENT LAWS OF THE GAMBIA , ANY PRESIDENT WHO COMES TO POWER COULD EASILY BECOME A DICTATOR.
HALIFA , LIKE ALL MEN (AND WOMEN) IS NOT INFALLIBLE , REQUIRES SCRUTINY AND CRITISISM .I PROBABLY DON'T SHARE ALL OF HALIFA'S VIEWS EVEN THOUH I RESPECT THEM.CRITISIM IS THE BEST THING ANY WORTHY PERSON NEEDS. I KNOW I NEED IT A LOT , DON'T YOU KONS ?
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 07 Aug 2006 :  19:11:30  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
I sure do need a lot of criticism. I am sure i may have said or suggested things that are not workable. That is why we should not allow anyone to tell us who is a better candidate. The candidate should speak for him self and that can only be possible if are allowed to criticize. My discomfort with NADD supporters is that criticism is a one-way traffic in so far as it does not lead to our party. Every Gambian has a conviction that his party has the best solution. Therefore the way forward to be able to see some good in others and to do a self-critique.

Secondly, halifa has not been tested yet with the Presidency. Remember that Hitler was democratically elected. SOMETIMES THE MAJORITY IS WRONG AND THAT IS WHY DEMOCRACY IS NOT AN END IN ITSELF BUT A MEANS AMONG MANY TO AN END.

ELECTED LEADERS HAVE TO BE SCRUTINIZED. If the leaders derive their power from the people, therefore leaders don’t give us democracy. Society gives it to itself through a constitution, which governs our every day lives including the leader. The president is just an employee who should undergo a performance review. Unfortunately in our society it seems to be the reverse.
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