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kondorong
Gambia
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 Posted - 31 Jul 2006 : 20:28:30
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Originally posted by Dalton1
Kons.,
Great, it is all yours for a week.I understand where you are coming from. Take no offense over me having to singled you out of all the lot-tells you that you are a power house. And you are my star here.
What is story behind choosing the name Kondorong ? Are you that short ? What are ur believes about Kondorongs ? My rich culture tells me a lot about them, especially the believe that they help us look after cattle-rearing when they are grazing in the meadows and that they cut cow tails.
Have a nice week bro.
Yero.
You see i am only four feet tall almost a pixie
Have you hared of the saying that short people tend to make a lot of noise. It certainly is true of me
I have always believed in a kondorong up to now. I never saw one but believe it is there. You are right in all you said above. They like cows and the tails in particular.
I want to believe that partly beacuse of kondorongs, herdsmen are said to have some powers. I went with the cows for many years, and i had always wanted to meet one so that he will give me some of his means. As a good wrestler, this was very necessary as i will be able to throw my opponents on the cold ground during harmattan season when the villages are full of life. Money would have been in, a lot of milk, farming over and a lot of food in the barns. Many herdsmen seem to have some powers supposedly from dealing with cattle.Perhaps from a Kondorong |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 31 Jul 2006 : 21:14:18
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And they are attributed with powers too-don't they belong to the jinn (devil) species ? In anyways, i was thought that they like cows.
Good choice of a name, but please don't cut the tails of my cows. (jokes) I have always had fun with cows, rearing them for grazing during the day-from sunset to sunrise, and also the famous "ninsi-mondeh/mowleh"-where the cows will drink salt water once or twice a year.
I got to go Kons. Catch you later, and thanks for your wonderful threads always.
Yero |
"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2006 : 21:34:18
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Originally posted by Dalton1
And they are attributed with powers too-don't they belong to the jinn (devil) species ? In anyways, i was thought that they like cows.
Good choice of a name, but please don't cut the tails of my cows. (jokes) I have always had fun with cows, rearing them for grazing during the day-from sunset to sunrise, and also the famous "ninsi-mondeh/mowleh"-where the cows will drink salt water once or twice a year.
I got to go Kons. Catch you later, and thanks for your wonderful threads always.
Yero
The salt drink with roots of plants done once a year is called MERREH MINDO in Mandinka. The herdsman has to run faster than the fastest bull and reach the place first otherwise, it was a bad omen. I used to run so fast and fall on tree stumps but never gave up. I was light and fast like lightening.
For some reasons the cows know about the exact day and i still dont know how. They will all run to the agreed spot without direction. Infact few days before the event, there was always tension among the herds. They just seem to know when and where.
It is an amazing animal wisdom that still is valid. iT VERY WELL REMINDS OF THE MIGRATION OF THE WIilderbeast in the MASAI MARA in Kenya.I am not sure if they do that now. Infact the herdsman must also eat the roots and drink the salt solution prepared for the cows. OUR CULTURE IS DYING BY THE MINUTE 
On that day, it was free milk from the herd owner. Everyone gets to drink milk for free. It was milk with LACHIRI(FULANI) CHERE(WOLOF) FUTO (MANDINKA) COUS COUS (MOROCCO) |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 01 Aug 2006 : 20:12:22
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Originally posted by kondorong
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Originally posted by Dalton1
And they are attributed with powers too-don't they belong to the jinn (devil) species ? In anyways, i was thought that they like cows.
Good choice of a name, but please don't cut the tails of my cows. (jokes) I have always had fun with cows, rearing them for grazing during the day-from sunset to sunrise, and also the famous "ninsi-mondeh/mowleh"-where the cows will drink salt water once or twice a year.
I got to go Kons. Catch you later, and thanks for your wonderful threads always.
Yero
The salt drink with roots of plants done once a year is called MERREH MINDO in Mandinka. The herdsman has to run faster than the fastest bull and reach the place first otherwise, it was a bad omen.
For some reasons the cows know about the exact day and i still dont know how. They will all run to the agreed spot without direction. Infact few days before the event, there was always tension among the herds. They just seem to know when and where.
It is an amazing animal wisdom that still is valid.
Kons., you are more of a gainako than any. I thought the mandinka word is ninsi-monleh. Animal wisdom, and the mere fact that the cows all know about this. What we 've done when going for this, atleast two or three people have to be infront, then others be behind them. I almost cried after reading your thread, it took me back. It is a lot of miracles i observed with cows in the past. Like when a stranger comes to the heard or when a funeral happens. Lets leave this where it is. Flash back !!!!!!!
"mbehlih-kosam, mettih gainakah, kibba kanabeh, ghaladih ketchiih. Purrr." Sorry, this doesn't have translation in english or any other language. |
"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 01 Aug 2006 : 23:17:07
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Originally posted by Dalton1
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Originally posted by kondorong
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Originally posted by Dalton1
And they are attributed with powers too-don't they belong to the jinn (devil) species ? In anyways, i was thought that they like cows.
Good choice of a name, but please don't cut the tails of my cows. (jokes) I have always had fun with cows, rearing them for grazing during the day-from sunset to sunrise, and also the famous "ninsi-mondeh/mowleh"-where the cows will drink salt water once or twice a year.
I got to go Kons. Catch you later, and thanks for your wonderful threads always.
Yero
The salt drink with roots of plants done once a year is called MERREH MINDO in Mandinka. The herdsman has to run faster than the fastest bull and reach the place first otherwise, it was a bad omen.
For some reasons the cows know about the exact day and i still dont know how. They will all run to the agreed spot without direction. Infact few days before the event, there was always tension among the herds. They just seem to know when and where.
It is an amazing animal wisdom that still is valid.
Kons., you are more of a gainako than any. I thought the mandinka word is ninsi-monleh. Animal wisdom, and the mere fact that the cows all know about this. What we 've done when going for this, atleast two or three people have to be infront, then others be behind them. I almost cried after reading your thread, it took me back. It is a lot of miracles i observed with cows in the past. Like when a stranger comes to the heard or when a funeral happens. Lets leave this where it is. Flash back !!!!!!!
"mbehlih-kosam, mettih gainakah, kibba kanabeh, ghaladih ketchiih. Purrr." Sorry, this doesn't have translation in english or any other language.
Dalton
You are taking me to a point of no return. I am being taken to where i do not feel like coming back. Those days will never be. The culture is so western these days that very soon we will never know who we are.
We have left our culture and we have not reached where we desire. I am not sure if we will. Down along this path, we look very confused and yearning for what is not there and running back to our roots, we find nothing. It is one of the dilemmas of many an African intellectual criss crossing between both cultures in a 24 hour period.
Sometimes I don’t know who I am. May be one speaker at the Commonwealth Forum I once attended was right: That we have a dilemma of identity being pulled by Africa on one side and the West on the other. It very well reminds of The Lion and the Jewel by Wole Soyinka.
Like i said before WANA MAIBEH TAN YURMINI |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Aug 2006 : 23:57:18
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Sometimes I don’t know who I am. May be one speaker at the Commonwealth Forum I once attended was right: That we have a dilemma of identity being pulled by Africa on one side and the West on the other. It very well reminds of The Lion and the Jewel by Wole Soyinka.
Like i said before WANA MAIBEH TAN YURMINI
KONDORONG,
KANA KA POULO? PULARR GAAL NAA LAAMI DEH. We have left what we know best for that we didn't know and will probably not know. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 00:25:40
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Sometimes I don’t know who I am. May be one speaker at the Commonwealth Forum I once attended was right: That we have a dilemma of identity being pulled by Africa on one side and the West on the other. It very well reminds of The Lion and the Jewel by Wole Soyinka.
Like i said before WANA MAIBEH TAN YURMINI
KONDORONG,
KANA KA POULO? PULARR GAAL NAA LAAMI DEH. We have left what we know best for that we didn't know and will probably not know.
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Madiba
Honestly it is a big issue for many educated Africans. The Book Lion and the Jewel by Wole Soyinka really discusses this problem. It is based on the arrogance of the educated African who had so much contempt of his culture that he literally hated the ways of life of his people. He for example refused to pay the bride price for his suitor. Instead he believed in dating, which is shunned by most African cultures. This is one of the best-known plays by Africa's major dramatist, Wole Soyinka. It is set in Nigeria in the Yoruba village of Ilujinle. The main characters are Sidi (the Jewel), a true village 'belle' and Baroka (the Lion), the crafty powerful Bale of the village. Lakunle the young teacher, influenced by Western ways, and Sadiku, the eldest of Baroka's wives.
Interestingly, Wole Soyinka portrayed this educated African very well. He was a teacher, who was by all means an agent of change but who, however chose to change his people for something that he himself hardly knows about. Lankunle was that agent and perhaps the creator of our dilemma.
Lankunle said that by paying the bride price was like “buying a heifer off the market.” Eventually he lost his girl friend to a chief Baroka who was prepared to respect our customs. I am not saying bride price is wrong, but working along and around these issues is a better way than to hate it and embrace a culture that is foreign in the first place.
This character, resonates with our early westernized Africans who placed a lot of distance between them an their people. For example, at Armitage, Students were not allowed to eat with their hands. It was punishable severely. I cleaned many toilets, cut grass or fell bush shrubs or sometimes knelt on my knees on hard concrete pavements for hours. Every one had to have a spoon and you have to pray before you could eat and after eating. The prayers very well resemble Christianity although no mention of Jesus was made. We could not call our teachers by their names of even the respected title of Mr. Mrs. Or Miss. They were to be called MASTER.
I wonder what Armitage looked like in 1927. When you speak a local language you are asked to wear chains of empty milk cans, animal skulls or some other objects as a punishment and a sign for others. People wore these to class for hours and you could only take it off if someone else was found speaking the local language in school. Other wise, unless you happen to meet a merciful MASTER, it will be round your neck for the rest of the School day. It was not unique to Armiatge alone. In grade school it was very common. They used to be called symbols.
The ultimate purpose I believe is not to make us improve our English skills but an indirect and very effective way of making us embarrassed of who we are and our values. Just like Kenyatta said “ When they came to Africa to Christianize us.. They asked us to close our eyes and pray. When we finished praying and open our eyes, we had the Bible but our land was gone” (This is a paraphrase).
No wonder many elders refused their children going to school because of this fear of “loosing” them. They would come home questioning every way of life and feeling superior.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 01:06:55
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Originally posted by MADIBA
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Sometimes I don’t know who I am. May be one speaker at the Commonwealth Forum I once attended was right: That we have a dilemma of identity being pulled by Africa on one side and the West on the other. It very well reminds of The Lion and the Jewel by Wole Soyinka.
Like i said before WANA MAIBEH TAN YURMINI
KONDORONG,
KANA KA POULO? PULARR GAAL NAA LAAMI DEH. We have left what we know best for that we didn't know and will probably not know.
ALA. MIN KO SARANKULE. KONO MIDA NANI SEDA TAN. MI WODAKI HEN. |
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Newfy
Western Samoa
462 Posts |
Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 02:53:35
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| Wow Kons, what you are saying about Armitage, it sounds like it was incredibly abusive environment for children and could damage them for life. No wonder some might be a behind boy. I would probablyu have runaway from school. Similar stories are reaccounted elsewhere in school, the tool of colonialism and indoctrination. |
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