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Momodou
Denmark
11712 Posts |
 Posted - 02 Dec 2013 : 11:16:21
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In sympathy with PDOIS and FOROYAA’s approach in things Gambian
By Momodou Olly Mboge, Norway
Where can I start? Well, I acknowledged PDOIS as the kind of political organisation I would have joined if I were to commit myself to any political party structure at the very moment it appeared on the Gambian political terrain. I have been attracted to the 'discourse' pioneered by PDOIS's Sam Sarr and Halifa Sallah the first time I was given a publication by a Koto who was an early member of the party. The publication dealt with the now defunct 'Senegambia Confederation'. This was in 1985 during or after the Zone 2 football tournament. Prior, I was lucky enough to have been among the Maths (I was among the dullest)students taught by Sam Sarr at GHS who was always busy in trying to augment the welfare of the underprivileged students whilst making sure every student regardless of status equally got the best education they deserved. I was as well a keen follower of Halifa Sallah's radio programmes with broadcaster Alhaji Assan Njie of the then Radio Gambia. The programme was very popular. The kind of rapport between Alaji Assan Njie and Halifa mesmerized all listeners whilst at the same time educating us about our society's sociology. When Sedia Jatta published his resignation letter and join the PDOIS party, I thought 'woow' now Gambia has a real political alternative to Jawara's PPP. Sedia’s letter was a masterpiece. I became an avid reader of Foroyaa, which I use to get from my Koto, and when I was able to afford one, I would of course purchase a copy from vendors. I use to buy the paper from MR Jones who use to stand by the Education Department near McCarthy Square in Banjul. I was very disappointed when I heard Jones 'jumped' ship and joined the APRC. Now he is history.
Anyway, PDOIS at the time became the party all the youth wanted listen to. The Jawara regime did all it could to destroy the party. The PPP supporters of SereKunda East ferociously attacked Halifa Sallah where he stood against their candidate. They did it in the nastiest and most derogatory manner one can imagine. In addition, I remember that captivating moment when Sam Sarr challenged President Jawara on Radio Gambia and if I am not mistaken it was something about the Senegambia Confederation. All those who were listening to Radio Gambia knew Jawara was not happy with Sam Sarr’s line of questioning. Following this confrontation with the then president Foroyaa was excluded from all news conferences that were held at the State House.
During the 1987 elections, PDOIS was able to present only five candidates. At LatriKunda German, Adama Bah the Hotelier was the candidate if I remember well. I voted for the PDOIS for parliament and NCP for the Presidency since the PDOIS had no presidential candidate. Some of us who had voting cards were illegally (21 years was the legal age to vote) registered by the ruling regime's members in the hope of getting our votes. THE PARTY'S PROGRAMME AND its PRACTICAL DEVELOPMENTAL INITIATIVES WERE the main attractions to me. It is, as it was unusual for a political party in the Gambia to have a newspaper to spread its message and to open schools to educate the poor as well as virtually running a social clinic where people come for help. It is also through reading PDOIS writings I started to understand the functions of state institutions and what the purpose of a nation state’s constitution was. I was as I am still attracted to PDOIS because they use dialogue and conversation to communicate their position.
They have stated since their inception that they will only be part of a government that is in the real sense the choice of the people. It is only through peaceful democratic changes that PDOIS will ever be in power. THUS AS FAR AS I AM CONCERN PDOIS HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR WITH THEIR POSITION AND I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE EXPECT PDOIS TO DO THEIR BIDDING. I MUST ADD THAT ACTIONS SUCH AS THAT OF DUGA MUST NOT BE CONDEMNED BY PDOIS or anyone else. I UNDERSTAND, IT WAS BECAUSE OF MANY YEARS of a RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN A DUGA MEMBER AND THE PDOIS FOLK THAT PROMPTED an opinion from the senior member of PDOIS. I still think the criticism could have been made differently.
In countries where people take to the streets and confront a government, that is abusing its power such as was the case of WADE’s Senegal or the so-called 'Arab Spring’ countries, political parties never lead in the way, they always pursue the political solution. For example in Senegal, the youths said enough is enough and took the initiative to take on the Wade government head-on. Some set fire to themselves in the streets and died whilst many fought running battles with the police and other security structures for change to happen. Human Rights organisations were vocal in condemning the excesses of the regime and some rights activists such as Alioune Tine were beaten seriously but stayed on to finish the fight.
Youths and other groups in the SENEGALESE DIASPORA WORKED WITH GROUPS OF THEIR CHOICE TO EFFECT CHANGE. SOME in the DIASPORA WHO WERE COMMITTED AND WERE READY TO BE MAIMED, IMPRISONED OR DIE FOR THEIR COUNTRY WENT BACK HOME AND JOINED THE FRONTLINE IN the FIGHT FOR WADE to go. They did not spend their time condemning politicians and others for not doing what they would not do. ORDINARY PEOPLE TOOK THE LEAD AND THE POLITICIANS HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO GIVE THEM SUPPORT. A political solution came into being when the whole Senegalese nation including religious leaders and other stakeholders realize that the country was going down if WADE DIDN'T GO. The opposition joined forces during the second round of voting in April 2012 and the rest is history. It is the ordinary PEOPLE WHO WOULD SPONTANEOUSLY PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE WHEN THE CRITICAL MOMENT COMES and POLITICIANS will not PROMPT them.
I have been hearing people talking about the South Africa experience in comparison with Gambia. The comparison is wrong in my view. The ANC and some of the major groups in SA in the late eighties and nineties were less confrontational. Actually, one can safely say that it was the youths following the 1976 SOWETO UPRISING and influenced by BIKO's militant BLACK CONSCIOUSNESS message that made South Africa ungovernable in the eighties onwards. A political solution eventually had be found. One must understand the ANC philosophy, which obtained during the time it took power in 1994 was non-confrontational and it is this that justified its elite to shamefully attempt to makeWinnie MANDELA the villain because she was with the youth. Anyway, I have digressed. Like any of us, the PDOIS people are human beings and sometimes they make mistakes in communicating their message. The PDOIS party must be persistently challenged and be able to endure such in good faith. I have no doubt they are up to the task.
That said the PDOIS critics must criticise in good faith. Given the recent flood of insults in the name of criticism one is inclined to believe this would not be the case. I wonder how in the name of disagreeing with a party’s position, one will outlandishly call its members and leaders names. I am still trying to understand why the persistent lies and innuendoes. Furthermore, I am still unable to comprehend the wretched excuses put forward when the critics’ accusations and insinuations are given attention by the slandered. IT IS EVEN RATHER MORE SHAMEFUL TO SEE disgraced HUSTLERS AND FORMER ENABLERS WHO HELPED JAMMEH CONSOLIDATE HIS GRIP BEING APPLAUDED for their pretentious heroism and the trashy CARICATURING of opposition leaders on the ground.
If the critics OF THE OPPOSITION PARTIES LIVING IN THE DIASPORA who themselves were abused by the regime in The Gambia are honest given the soundings of their rhetoric, why are they not on the ground leading by example. Are these so-called very angry Gambia loving self-stroking heroes and heroines ready to walk the walk and go to the Gambia where it really matters to be maimed, imprisoned and murdered in the hope of hastening the exit of the CRIMINAL JAMMEH. Are our female diaspora critics ready to be Gambia’s Aline Sitoe Diatta who fought oppression and HAD TO BE imprisoned outside of Senegal by the French? Will our Gambian Steve Biko’s or Chris Hani’s (gallant men who died because they refused to abdicate their responsibilities to others) stand-up and be willing to die so that their people could be free? UNLESS AND UNTIL WE ARE REAL TO OURSELVES, NO AMOUNT of self-stroking delusional heroism and gloating over some ill-perceived timidity or selfishness of the opposition leaders on the ground in the Gambia will bring about Jammeh’s immediate exit. In the interim, I salute the great men and women of the opposition against Jammeh both at home and abroad who are doing what they could without disparaging other peoples genuine efforts to bring real democracy to Gambia.
Source: Gambia-L
http://listserv.icors.org/scripts/wa-ICORS.exe?A2=gambia-l;127eafe8.1312a
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2013 : 15:13:14
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Nonsense upon silk. |
I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
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sankalanka
270 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2013 : 17:26:11
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"THUS AS FAR AS I AM CONCERN PDOIS HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR WITH THEIR POSITION AND I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE EXPECT PDOIS TO DO THEIR BIDDING." Mboge.
This statement says it all, and is the reason for all the nastiness, baseless attacks, futile propaganda and loud badmouthing.
PDOIS will never support or participate in an effort that will take power at the back of the people. They will never support or participate in an effort that will help to consolidate someone in power.
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 02 Dec 2013 : 21:40:23
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Sankalanka, that is precisely why PDOIS is not getting anywhere. That is also exactly why many of us who supported PDOIS be4 decides to move on..
The world has evolved politically and economically, Gambia's political conditions have evolved and if you continue to do the same thing with the same results, common sense dictates that you review your policies and ideas and adopt new ones. This is precisely why PDOIS cannot keep up with the new generation.
Any organization, being it political, social, or economical, if you are not going to adopt to a rapidly changing world, then am afraid you will continue to live with empty dreams.
Even young PDOIS members are calling for change, flexibility and new ideas.. but no.. they have a 30 year old idea and will not change it. best of luck... |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
Edited by - dbaldeh on 02 Dec 2013 21:47:19 |
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sankalanka
270 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2013 : 00:04:37
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quote:
Originally posted by sankalanka
"THUS AS FAR AS I AM CONCERN PDOIS HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR WITH THEIR POSITION AND I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE EXPECT PDOIS TO DO THEIR BIDDING." Mboge.
This statement says it all, and is the reason for all the nastiness, baseless attacks, futile propaganda and loud badmouthing.
PDOIS will never support or participate in an effort that will take power at the back of the people. They will never support or participate in an effort that will help to consolidate someone in power.
"Sankalanka, that is precisely why PDOIS is not getting anywhere. That is also exactly why many of us who supported PDOIS be4 decides to move on.."
Dbaldeh, but who is getting anywhere? Can you tell me? In the Gambia's political history since Independence it has been governed by only two presidents and two political parties. Where are all the political parties that existed since we attained our independence? Of all the political parties that contested elections in the second republic which opposition party is actually getting somewhere?
I read a very interesting commentary by a writer named BAX at Kibarro about PDOIS supporters who have moved on. I will searched for the piece and forward it here. It answers adequately and succinctly the notion of PDOIS supporters who have moved on. I do not want to misrepresent his views by paraphrasing it here. He very much speak to the issue for me.
"The world has evolved politically and economically, Gambia's political conditions have evolved and if you continue to do the same thing with the same results, common sense dictates that you review your policies and ideas and adopt new ones. This is precisely why PDOIS cannot keep up with the new generation."
Dbaldeh, would you mind to share with us which PDOIS policies need to be reviewed. Can you share with us which ideas also need to be reviewed? Can you suggest which new ones they need to adopt? And can you explain more clearly what you mean: PDOIS cannot keep up with the new generation? Are you suggesting that the new generation is far ahead of PDOIS, and how?
"Any organization, being it political, social, or economical, if you are not going to adopt to a rapidly changing world, then am afraid you will continue to live with empty dreams."
In the case of PDOIS how should they adapt to a rapidly changing world? What has changed so rapidly in the world to make them continue to live with empty dreams? And what are the empty dreams?
"Even young PDOIS members are calling for change, flexibility and new ideas.."
What are the new ideas young PDOIS members are calling for? What do they want the party to be flexible on? And what changes are they calling for?
"but no.. they have a 30 year old idea and will not change it. best of luck..."
What in this 30 year old idea do you want to be changed? Or do you want to change the whole idea? What do you suggest they should change the idea to?
Hope you will give answers to these questions, it will help as we proceed with our dialogue.
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics
Edited by - dbaldeh on 02 Dec 2013 21:47:19 |
Edited by - sankalanka on 03 Dec 2013 00:18:56 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2013 : 00:09:51
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dBaldeh. What "change, flexibility and new ideas.." on WHAT? Be specific on any issue, scenario, strategy, tactic, position, policy, idea and statement from PDOIS; that you are addressing, criticizing and/or observed that need policy/strategy/tactic/position review or RETHINKING rather than making outlandish, confusing, general, disingenuous and sweeping cloudy statements 
REFER ON ALL OPPOSITION FRONT MILESTONES AND CONVINCE US WHERE YOU HAVE MORE SOUND IDEAS AND WHERE YOU BELIEVE ANY OPPOSITION PARTY HAD BETTER OFFERED MORE THAN DISPOSITION OR POSITION OF PDOIS; AND/OR FOR THEM TO CONSIDER POLICY/STRATEGY/TACTIC/POSITION; "REVIEW", "CHANGE" AND "ADOPT" IN INTERESTS OF OPPOSITION FRONT, NATIONAL UNITY, SOLIDARITY, FOR NATIONAL STRATEGIC INTERESTS AND MORE EFFECTIVE AGAINST DICTATOR JAMMEH/APRC REGIME; ESPECIALLY GETTING RID OF JAMMEH?
All your comments or opinion are baseless, false insinuations, fallacy on PDOIS and divergence with these firm opinions expressed
1. "THUS AS FAR AS I AM CONCERN PDOIS HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR WITH THEIR POSITION AND I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE EXPECT PDOIS TO DO THEIR BIDDING." Mboge.
2. "This statement (under 1.) says it all, and is the reason for all the nastiness, baseless attacks, futile propaganda and loud badmouthing.
PDOIS will never support or participate in an effort that will take power at the back of the people. They will never support or participate in an effort that will help to consolidate someone in power." Sankalanka
3. "the PDOIS critics must criticise in good faith. Given the recent flood of insults in the name of criticism one is inclined to believe this would not be the case.
I wonder how in the name of disagreeing with a party’s position, one will outlandishly call its members and leaders names. I am still trying to understand why the persistent lies and innuendoes.
Furthermore, I am still unable to comprehend the wretched excuses put forward when the critics’ accusations and insinuations are given attention by the slandered." Mboge |
Edited by - kobo on 03 Dec 2013 00:43:17 |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2013 : 01:08:37
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Sankalanka, you asked a bunch of questions and these are exactly the questions PDOIS needs to be asking its leadership and supporters. Why not they convene a youth conference, conference in the Diaspora and engage their supporters and other Gambians who may be sympathetic to their cause? Once this is done they can then allow the youths to come up with ideas and suggestions on how to move the party forward. Is this happening I don't know..and it doesn't appear so because it is not in the public.
Just to reference a few of your questions, some of the policies or processes they need to change... This idea of not joining Gambians unless there is a consensus is simply misplaced and outdated.
In addition, this notion of reprimanding any one of your young supporters like Halifa did to Pa Samba and Modou Nyang is simply out of place. Allow your young supporters to come up with ideas without possibility of humiliating them in public. Even Modou Mboge the author of the article we are discussing condemned the assault on Pa Samba Jow and DUGA DC.
PDOIS needs to be more tolerance and open to criticism. The party has some brilliant and committed youths, but they need more independence and empowerment to take on their leadership and help shape the party.
NO POLITICAL PARTY HAD CODE OF CONDUCT IN THE PUBLIC beyond its executive members. Citizens are more independent and no party can control their actions.
I remember even at the age of 20/21, I was asking PDOIS leadership why they wouldn't associate with village elders when they visit villages? Why they need to set up their meetings at Bantabas instead of having committee chairmen and women in villages and empower those people? I understand the idea of not depending on someone poor to provide food etc, but that is a cultural thing in Gambia. People don't have anything but they are kind and wants to be treated that way..
PDOIS has also flip flopped on some of the very ideas they said they are not going to change. How in the world do you discredit Amat Bah as a candidate, trash him in public as someone who has no credibility and you turn around and support that person as candidate for President. I thought credibility matters to them? Then why support him...
I can go on and on.. PDOIS needs to allow other members to speak on behalf of the Party without fear of intimidation. People like Suwainbou Touray, Aunty Amie Sillah etc, when was the last time you heard them speak on behalf of the party? How many young women activists does PDOIS have and how much are they empowered?
I will emphasize unless the party is open to new ideas and reforms it is not going to go anywhere and many young ones will run away... And or by the way, just because no other party in Gambia has gotten anywhere does not mean you too cannot aim to get to the next level.
Gambians expect leadership better than Jawara's and Jammeh's. So don't give me how many parties are ruled by Gambia. We deserve better... My invitation on Gainako Radio is still open and fresh for Halifa and others.. |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
Edited by - dbaldeh on 03 Dec 2013 01:18:40 |
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sankalanka
270 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2013 : 05:04:10
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quote:
Originally posted by sankalanka
quote:
Originally posted by sankalanka
"THUS AS FAR AS I AM CONCERN PDOIS HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR WITH THEIR POSITION AND I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE EXPECT PDOIS TO DO THEIR BIDDING." Mboge.
This statement says it all, and is the reason for all the nastiness, baseless attacks, futile propaganda and loud badmouthing.
PDOIS will never support or participate in an effort that will take power at the back of the people. They will never support or participate in an effort that will help to consolidate someone in power.
"Sankalanka, that is precisely why PDOIS is not getting anywhere. That is also exactly why many of us who supported PDOIS be4 decides to move on.."
Dbaldeh, but who is getting anywhere? Can you tell me? In the Gambia's political history since Independence it has been governed by only two presidents and two political parties. Where are all the political parties that existed since we attained our independence? Of all the political parties that contested elections in the second republic which opposition party is actually getting somewhere?
I read a very interesting commentary by a writer named BAX at Kibarro about PDOIS supporters who have moved on. I will searched for the piece and forward it here. It answers adequately and succinctly the notion of PDOIS supporters who have moved on. I do not want to misrepresent his views by paraphrasing it here. He very much speak to the issue for me.
"The world has evolved politically and economically, Gambia's political conditions have evolved and if you continue to do the same thing with the same results, common sense dictates that you review your policies and ideas and adopt new ones. This is precisely why PDOIS cannot keep up with the new generation."
Dbaldeh, would you mind to share with us which PDOIS policies need to be reviewed. Can you share with us which ideas also need to be reviewed? Can you suggest which new ones they need to adopt? And can you explain more clearly what you mean: PDOIS cannot keep up with the new generation? Are you suggesting that the new generation is far ahead of PDOIS, and how?
"Any organization, being it political, social, or economical, if you are not going to adopt to a rapidly changing world, then am afraid you will continue to live with empty dreams."
In the case of PDOIS how should they adapt to a rapidly changing world? What has changed so rapidly in the world to make them continue to live with empty dreams? And what are the empty dreams?
"Even young PDOIS members are calling for change, flexibility and new ideas.."
What are the new ideas young PDOIS members are calling for? What do they want the party to be flexible on? And what changes are they calling for?
"but no.. they have a 30 year old idea and will not change it. best of luck..."
What in this 30 year old idea do you want to be changed? Or do you want to change the whole idea? What do you suggest they should change the idea to?
Hope you will give answers to these questions, it will help as we proceed with our dialogue.
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics
Edited by - dbaldeh on 02 Dec 2013 21:47:19
"Sankalanka, you asked a bunch of questions and these are exactly the questions PDOIS needs to be asking its leadership and supporters."
Dbaldeh, the questions I asked you are related to the statements that you make. It seems that it is now your opinion that PDOIS should be asking these questions to itself ("its leadership and supporters").But you are the one who make those statements and the questions are meant for you to substantiate what you write.
"Why not they convene a youth conference, conference in the Diaspora and engage their supporters and other Gambians who may be sympathetic to their cause? Once this is done they can then allow the youths to come up with ideas and suggestions on how to move the party forward. Is this happening I don't know..and it doesn't appear so because it is not in the public."
Dbaldeh, I am loosing you again. Are you saying that PDOIS should convene a youth conference in the Diaspora and engage their supporters and other Gambians who may be sympathetic to their cause on what? How to better run the party?
They should do this so that "they can allow the youths to come up with ideas and suggestion on how to move the party forward". Is this your idea of how to run a political party; an opposition party that is a government in waiting?
"Just to reference a few of your questions, some of the policies or processes they need to change... This idea of not joining Gambians unless there is a consensus is simply misplaced and outdated."
Is there a PDOIS policy that states that they will not join Gambians unless there is a consensus? No, there is no such policy or idea. And consensus on what?
"In addition, this notion of reprimanding any one of your young supporters like Halifa did to Pa Samba and Modou Nyang is simply out of place."
I did not see Pa Samba take issue with Halifa about this incident, except those vociferous voices who were politicizing the issue. And Halifa did also explain why he made those remarks.
The same thing applies with Modou Nyang. These are non-antagonistic disagreements.
"Allow your young supporters to come up with ideas without possibility of humiliating them in public. Even Modou Mboge the author of the article we are discussing condemned the assault on Pa Samba Jow and DUGA DC."
This tells you that we do not always think the same. The things that we share in common is the idea of PDOIS; its mission and vision, its principles and policies, and its aims and objectives. Yes, Mboge disagreed with the PDOIS editorial and he said so himself.
"PDOIS needs to be more tolerance and open to criticism."
PDOIS is tolerant and it is open to criticism. What they will not do is allow people to criticize them unjustly and without merit. When they respond to such baseless criticism they are then criticized yet again that they write too much.
"The party has some brilliant and committed youths, but they need more independence and empowerment to take on their leadership and help shape the party."
How do you know that is not going on? This is an internal matter that the PDOIS members can only tell you about.
"NO POLITICAL PARTY HAD CODE OF CONDUCT IN THE PUBLIC beyond its executive members. Citizens are more independent and no party can control their actions."
This code of conduct is how the party wants to project its image. It is a guide as to how members of the party should conduct themselves to protect the image of the party. It has nothing to do with citizens. Citizens are independent and no party controls their actions.
"I remember even at the age of 20/21, I was asking PDOIS leadership why they wouldn't associate with village elders when they visit villages? Why they need to set up their meetings at Bantabas instead of having committee chairmen and women in villages and empower those people?"
What were the reasons they gave you why they conduct their village meetings in that manner? And has it changed since then? If you are not sure you should asked and I know you will be provided with an explanation.
"I understand the idea of not depending on someone poor to provide food etc, but that is a cultural thing in Gambia. People don't have anything but they are kind and wants to be treated that way.."
Is this what they told you as to why they were conducting their village meetings in that manner?
"PDOIS has also flip flopped on some of the very ideas they said they are not going to change."
What are these ideas?
"How in the world do you discredit Amat Bah as a candidate, trash him in public as someone who has no credibility and you turn around and support that person as candidate for President."
Do you know what happened between Amat Bah and PDOIS that led to their acceptance of him as a Presidential candidate? And can you give context to this thrashing in public that you are talking about.
"I thought credibility matters to them? Then why support him..."
How did they come to support Hamat Bah? You are not saying that.
"I can go on and on.. PDOIS needs to allow other members to speak on behalf of the Party without fear of intimidation."
What is wrong with delegating a person who speaks on behalf of the party. Everybody has roles and responsibilities.
"People like Suwainbou Touray, Aunty Amie Sillah etc, when was the last time you heard them speak on behalf of the party?"
If they are delegated to speak on behalf of the Party they will. They are capable and competent.
"How many young women activists does PDOIS have and how much are they empowered?"
May be you should write and asked them. I do not know.
"I will emphasize unless the party is open to new ideas and reforms it is not going to go anywhere and many young ones will run away... "
Again,what are the new ideas and the reforms you talking about? You are just making blank statements.
"And or by the way, just because no other party in Gambia has gotten anywhere does not mean you too cannot aim to get to the next level."
Again, what is the next level you are talking about? And how will they get to this next level? A blank statement.
"Gambians expect leadership better than Jawara's and Jammeh's. So don't give me how many parties are ruled by Gambia."
But this is a fact Dbaldeh. Wait until you have another leader and demand a better leadership. And which leader are Gambians expecting to have a better leadership from?
You see, your statements prompt more questions than answers.
We deserve better... My invitation on Gainako Radio is still open and fresh for Halifa and others..
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics
Edited by - dbaldeh on 03 Dec 2013 01:18:40
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2013 : 05:26:20
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[quote]Originally posted by dbaldeh
Sankalanka, you asked a bunch of questions and these are exactly the questions PDOIS needs to be asking its leadership and supporters. Why not they convene a youth conference, conference in the Diaspora and engage their supporters and other Gambians who may be sympathetic to their cause? Once this is done they can then allow the youths to come up with ideas and suggestions on how to move the party forward. Is this happening I don't know..and it doesn't appear so because it is not in the public.
Above statement not a relevant remark in UNITED FRONT STRATEGY and A FALLACY that PDOIS is not engaging "Diaspora", "youths" and its "supporters"!
Just to reference a few of your questions, some of the policies or processes they need to change... This idea of not joining Gambians unless there is a consensus is simply misplaced and outdated.
What do you perceive to be "CONSENSUS" you allege that "PDOIS is claiming "not joining GAMBIANS unless there is a CONSENSUS"? who are those "GAMBIANS" PDOIS bargaining to join or bidding with politically? Reminding you to substantiate your comments trying to discredit or smear campaign PDOIS on its POLICY, POSITION ON OPPOSITION FRONT STRATEGY, NATIONAL UNITY, SOLIDARITY AND COMMON GROUND;
1. ON RALIEGH OPPOSITION FRONT CONVENTION PDOIS tabled and engaged diaspora with sound clear proposals, commit itself to the resolutions, still awaiting further updates or any progress from (a credible properly constituted) steering committee, promptly declared readiness on united national front and which it advocated for since inception of NADD.
2. PDOIS is part of G6 and working with other opposition parties for electoral reforms; UNITED FOR COMMON PURPOSE AND GOAL!
3. PDOIS committed the party under UNITED FRONT IN 2011 with other opposition parties and supported them full-time; without fielding any of its leaders to contest presidency.
4. PDOIS is only party with its head high and proud to be VANGUARDS OF N.A.D.D; since the party signed THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING (MOU) as a PACT. PDOIS maintained THE AGREEMENT & N.A.D.D still alive as A VIABLE UNITED NATIONAL FRONT PLATFORM FOR ALL OPPOSITION FRONT.
SO What "GAMBIANS" are you alluding, talking about or INSINUATING?
In addition, this notion of reprimanding any one of your young supporters like Halifa did to Pa Samba and Modou Nyang is simply out of place. Allow your young supporters to come up with ideas without possibility of humiliating them in public. Even Modou Mboge the author of the article we are discussing condemned the assault on Pa Samba Jow and DUGA DC.
The two cases are different. For MODOU NYANG PDOIS clarified its position and "REPRIMAND" him on certain allegations he made against his party leaders and challenging them (why they missed attending raleigh) widely publicized; which was poor judgement on his side unfortunately.
On the other hand there was no "ASSAULT" of PA SAMBA JOW AND DUGA DC. The FOROYAA EDITORIAL is grossly misrepresented and taken out of context online; as it's purpose was to caution, sensitize and inform "YOUTHS" on "POLITICAL ADVENTURISM", CERTAIN UNCALLED-FOR ACTIVISM, ADVISING DIASPORA TO "GO BACK TO DRAWING BOARD" TO CHANGE GEAR ON MORE EFFECTIVE STRATEGY AND TACTICS BUT COMMUNICATION BREAKDOWN IS A NATURAL PHENOMENON!
PDOIS needs to be more tolerance and open to criticism. The party has some brilliant and committed youths, but they need more independence and empowerment to take on their leadership and help shape the party.
I WOULD HAVE STATED THAT ABOVE STATEMENT NOT A RELEVANT REMARK IN UNITED FRONT STRATEGY!
However how is PDOIS not "TOLERANT" AND NOT "OPEN TO CRITICISM"? PDOIS isjust very vocal, well articulate on national and political issues; only political party challenging open debate NATIONAL DEBATE ON POLITICS NATIONAL BURNING ISSUES & POLICY for PUBLIC to understand and more inform?
WHY DO YOU IGNORE THESE POINTS IN QUOTE;
"the PDOIS critics must criticise in good faith. Given the recent flood of insults in the name of criticism one is inclined to believe this would not be the case.
I wonder how in the name of disagreeing with a party’s position, one will outlandishly call its members and leaders names. I am still trying to understand why the persistent lies and innuendoes.
Furthermore, I am still unable to comprehend the wretched excuses put forward when the critics’ accusations and insinuations are given attention by the slandered." Mboge
NO POLITICAL PARTY HAD CODE OF CONDUCT IN THE PUBLIC beyond its executive members. Citizens are more independent and no party can control their actions.
Organizations are unique, dynamic and/or pervasive. any dynamic political party is run by dynamic visionary leaders. PDOIS has visionary leaders are step ahead in terms of proper organisation, communication, coordination, guiding its membership, conflict resolutions and management of the party.
We are in 21st century and technology is advance! if we can have FACEBOOK POLITICS & ACTIVISM Why not PDOIS develop and producing its party CODE OF CONDUCT to help guide & discipline its members on certain basic moral ethics, civil actions and political actions.
BETTER STATED BY SANKALANKA ABOVE AS QUOTED THAT;
"This code of conduct is how the party wants to project its image. It is a guide as to how members of the party should conduct themselves to protect the image of the party. It has nothing to do with citizens. Citizens are independent and no party controls their actions. " Sankalanka
I remember even at the age of 20/21, I was asking PDOIS leadership why they wouldn't associate with village elders when they visit villages? Why they need to set up their meetings at Bantabas instead of having committee chairmen and women in villages and empower those people? I understand the idea of not depending on someone poor to provide food etc, but that is a cultural thing in Gambia. People don't have anything but they are kind and wants to be treated that way..
ABOVE STATEMENT NOT A RELEVANT REMARK IN UNITED FRONT STRATEGY! BANTABA CHEAP TALK, CARICATURE AND PETTY POLITICS
PDOIS has also flip flopped on some of the very ideas they said they are not going to change. How in the world do you discredit Amat Bah as a candidate, trash him in public as someone who has no credibility and you turn around and support that person as candidate for President. I thought credibility matters to them? Then why support him...
Events leading PDOIS supporting HAMAT BAH for UNITED FRONT 2011 President candidate is not as stated above! IT IS HAMAT BAH WHO BENEFITED FROM PDOIS POLICY AND STRATEGY! PDOIS HASN'T "FLIP FLOP" ON ITS POSITION FOR UNITED NATIONAL FRONT BECAUSE IT IS VERY PLAUSIBLE AND ONLY ONE TENABLE AS COMMON GROUND FOR ALL OPPOSITION PARTIES.
I can go on and on.. PDOIS needs to allow other members to speak on behalf of the Party without fear of intimidation. People like Suwainbou Touray, Aunty Amie Sillah etc, when was the last time you heard them speak on behalf of the party? How many young women activists does PDOIS have and how much are they empowered?
ABOVE STATEMENT NOT A RELEVANT REMARK IN UNITED FRONT STRATEGY! CONSIDER THEM AS DODGY FLIMSY EXCUSES AND HYPOCRITICALLY PITTING MEMBERSHIP OF PDOIS
I will emphasize unless the party is open to new ideas and reforms it is not going to go anywhere and many young ones will run away... And or by the way, just because no other party in Gambia has gotten anywhere does not mean you too cannot aim to get to the next level.
ABOVE STATEMENT NOT A RELEVANT REMARK IN UNITED FRONT STRATEGY!
Gambians expect leadership better than Jawara's and Jammeh's. So don't give me how many parties are ruled by Gambia. We deserve better... My invitation on Gainako Radio is still open and fresh for Halifa and others..
THAT IS WHAT PDOIS IS FIGHTING FOR BY ENGAGING FULL TIME IN CIVIC AND POLITICAL EDUCATION OF GAMBIANS!!! FOCUS ON CURRENT OPPOSITION FRONT ISSUES, DYNAMICS AT PLAY, POLICY, STRATEGY, TACTICS AND/OR ANY SPECIFIC STATEMENT/IDEA OF PDOIS INCLUDING POSITION OF OTHER OPPOSITION PARTIES; OUR SENSE OF UNITY OR DIRECTION OF THE STRUGGLE TO PROOF A POINT THAN CASTIGATING PDOIS WITH ANY TRASH OR GABBAGE THAT CREPT IN YOUR HEAD
Related Bantaba topic PDOIS and UDP position on Opposition Coalition |
Edited by - kobo on 03 Dec 2013 15:31:10 |
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kobo
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Posted - 03 Dec 2013 : 20:25:28
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Originally posted by dbaldeh
"My invitation on Gainako Radio is still open and fresh for Halifa and others.."
For Halifa/PDOIS invitation, from foregoing comments & opinion expressed by yourself in this topic as EDITOR IN CHIEF OF GAINAKO & RADIO PROGRAMME MANAGER, I am pointing out to you that you appear not conversant or not knowing clearly following;
1. AGENDA, OBJECTIVE & POSITION of each opposition party respectively on UNITED FRONT?
2. OPPOSITION FRONT SENSE OF DIRECTION, THE MILESTONES, PRECEDENTS & RELATED EVENTS?
3. CONTENTIOUS ISSUES & DIVERGENCE IN POLICY, STRATEGY & TACTIC(S)?
4. STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES, THREATS (SWOT), CONSTRAINTS & GENERAL PROBLEMS of opposition front?
5. ROLES, REPRESENTATION & POLITICAL PLATFORM OF DIASPORA DISSIDENTS/ACTIVISTS/MILITANTS AND OPPOSITION PARTIES ON THE GROUND?
6. BARRIERS, BUILDING BRIDGES FOR THE COMMON GROUND AND HOW NATIONAL UNITY CAN BE ATTAINED?
7. HOW OPPOSITION FRONT CAN FORM A UNITED NATIONAL FRONT THAT CAN TOPPLE JAMMEH/APRC?
8. A USEFUL NOTE AND PDOIS CONTACT FROM RELATED BANTABA TOPIC PDOIS DESK OFFICER'S CLARIFIES QUOTE:
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PDOIS DESK OFFICER'S CONTACT EMAIL
"I decided to intervene just to guide those who are sympathetic to PDOIS’ Position to know that they are on track. Those who belong to other parties should indicate their positions in their party and speak or write in their party’s name otherwise no one should take them seriously. Those who speak for parties cannot and should not hide behind anonymity. At home we coexist with the other party representatives under a climate of mutual respect. Our debates with them are on substance.
We do not accuse anyone of being our detractor. We are in the offensive and not in the defensive since we are ready to refute baseless criticisms and accept proper ones to improve our practice.
If any sympathizer or supporter of PDOIS wants any information to continue their mission to enlighten others, they could contact me through the following email address: suwaiboutouray@yahoo.com. If I don’t have the information I will search for it and deliver it accordingly.
PDOIS’ Desk Officer
Suwaibou Touray"
9. Trust me PDOIS is ready to cover thoroughly POINTS 1 - 7! Start your research on all areas above, prepare and develop a well plan interview for a fruitful conversation or discussion; then send them a formal request or invitation as SPECIAL GUEST OF GAINAKO RADIO, I can assure you GAINAKO will get an excellent programme & public good information and better inform
Good luck IN SERVICE OF NATION |
Edited by - kobo on 04 Dec 2013 01:37:04 |
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