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toubab1020



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Posted - 18 Jun 2011 :  15:43:20  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
This appeared in The Point,it is to be remembered that Gamtel is a state company and not a private company no reason given for the sacking.


Gamtel MD Jamal Micknas removed
africa » gambia
Friday, June 17, 2011

The Point yesterday learned through reliable sources that Mr Jamal Micknas, Managing Director of the Gambia Telecommunication Company (Gamtel), has been removed from his position.

Though no reason(s) was advanced to this paper as to his removal, sources said this development took effect Wednesday afternoon.

http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/gamtel-md-jamal-micknas-removed

Jamal Micknas, who replaced Mr Katim Touray as Gamtel MD, was the Permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Information and Communications Infrastructure prior to joining Gamtel.

Sources further advanced that Mr Baboucarr Sanyang, deputy Managing Director of Gamtel, is now overseeing the company.

Jamal Micknas was appointed as MD in December 2010.
Author: Momodou Faal

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 18 Jun 2011 :  19:53:57  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Nobody seems to know where to take their grievances to but the OMBUDSMAN'S job is to settle and handle grievances. Touby the reasons for his removal are confidential and not up for discussion whether you feel that you need to know or not. If he feels cheat, abused or unfairly treated well there is plenty of avenues to address that, What should concern everyone is the fact that all these firings are taken in Good faith simply because of the underlying reasons for the FIRINGS, it seems reasonable when it's taken in good faith and all of them just keep a low profile afterwards, so how have they been wronged? ...........................Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 18 Jun 2011 21:29:09
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toubab1020



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Posted - 18 Jun 2011 :  20:22:56  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
MOE,what are you on about ? GAMTEL is a state owned company,the people are the state,therefore the people are entitled to know the reasons for the dismissal of a holder of a senior post in a state owned company,"the reasons for his removal are confidential and not up for discussion"
There is no indication that Mr Jamal Micknas, wishes to take his "grieviances" to the OMBUDSMAN,there may well be good and valid reasons for his dismissal therefore who ever ordered his sacking should tell the public why this man has been sacked,I am not suggesting that anyone has been wronged,but the people have a right to know the reasons. It would appear from your posting that you disagree,or more likely you are in a wind up mood

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 18 Jun 2011 20:23:58
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Moe



USA
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Posted - 18 Jun 2011 :  20:38:06  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Wrong Touby, It is indeed confidential and he can sue anyone that decides to reveal that information. If he has issues with his hiring and firing he can take that to the Ombudsman. Its obvious you are clueless as to how things work. It's against the Law for the Government to tell anyone why someone was FIRED except if it goes to Court.............................Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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Kitabul Arerr



Gambia
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Posted - 18 Jun 2011 :  20:56:16  Show Profile Send Kitabul Arerr a Private Message
OK, this discuss is going nowhere. A full explanation for the firing seems to be (allegedly): http://www.freedomnewspaper.com/Homepage/tabid/36/mid/367/newsid367/6405/Gambia-Breaking-News--JAMMEH-FIRES-HIS-EX-IN-LAW-JAMAL-Micknas-GAMTEL-MD/Default.aspx



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Moe



USA
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Posted - 18 Jun 2011 :  21:26:47  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Say that again... Alleged by the biggest Liar in the whole of West Africa..................Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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Kitabul Arerr



Gambia
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Posted - 18 Jun 2011 :  21:39:23  Show Profile Send Kitabul Arerr a Private Message
At least, we now know that Mr Jamal Micknas, Ex-Managing Director of the Gambia Telecommunication Company (Gamtel)was Yahya Jammeh's Inlaw. You connect the Dots, and with Jammeh also (allegedly) getting his "pint of blood", the narrative seems to make sense........................lol!




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Moe



USA
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Posted - 18 Jun 2011 :  21:49:50  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
You ain't no "Bagass or Merchandise" everyone in Gambia is related unless you wanna deny that FACT..........................Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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toubab1020



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Posted - 18 Jun 2011 :  22:53:16  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Oh Dear MOE,the power of the press and freedom of speech has triumphed yet again,allegedly of course

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 18 Jun 2011 22:53:45
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Moe



USA
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Posted - 19 Jun 2011 :  00:13:09  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
You're a simple man Toubab, This has absolutely nothing to do with freedom of speech. In America an employee can sue an Employer for simply stating negative facts about your employment. All they can verify is time of employment and position held. So for an ignorant man oblivious of HR rules. Take a note pad and come sit down for a second Touby, NO ONE and I mean NO ONE should disclose the reasons for Firing anyone, It is against HR rules and certain instances against the Law. You are a Toubab that don't even know the simplest things in Life............................Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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kaanibaa



United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jun 2011 :  02:28:48  Show Profile Send kaanibaa a Private Message
Why does it matter who gets fired , we were all fired and fried when Yahya took over that is the top of the line and the bottom line too ! Ah bother ! those who know should go tell those who still don't know . those who gloat now ,may keep doing so now till it is their turn to swallow the bitter pill which misses no one in this circus. Just take a walk down memory lane and see those that have fallen on the wayside.
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toubab1020



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Posted - 19 Jun 2011 :  11:04:55  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
MOE, I applaud you for one thing,being loyal,although in your heart you know that MOST of the things that you support are not in the interests of the people,I will however concede that the thought process of the African is different to that of the Toubab and to have a very strong authoritian leader is a position that most will accept,so everything is different,MOST African have not had a chance to develop because of lack of experience of development which will make things better for them and their families,they remain in a static situation because they have no money no job no ambition,this is the way I view MOST of Africa and most Africans,is it wrong to want to live in a traditional way ? Not for me to say,Is development wrong for Africans? again not for me to say,I am not an African,therefore I cannot think like an African.Are those Africans who feel that western countries are the "promised land" really happy and content with what they find there ? again I cannot answer that.The back to the land policy is good BUT implementation of the policy has NOT been thought out,no training,no seed being given,no fuel being given, no system developed for selling and transporting bulk product that would be for sale.

"You're a simple man Toubab," thanks MOE I am content so to be.


P.S. I abhor American litigious greed.


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Originally posted by Moe

You're a simple man Toubab, This has absolutely nothing to do with freedom of speech. In America an employee can sue an Employer for simply stating negative facts about your employment. All they can verify is time of employment and position held. So for an ignorant man oblivious of HR rules. Take a note pad and come sit down for a second Touby, NO ONE and I mean NO ONE should disclose the reasons for Firing anyone, It is against HR rules and certain instances against the Law. You are a Toubab that don't even know the simplest things in Life............................Peace


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 19 Jun 2011 11:12:00
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Moe



USA
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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 :  01:59:36  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
"P.S. I abhor American litigious greed."

Thats exactly what perfected the American society and our democracy and the very reason people can be held accountable in this country. You do not know anything Touby just a simple White Man aka Blacky from Niumi........................peace

"Ps:The back to the land policy is good BUT implementation of the policy has NOT been thought out,no training,no seed being given,no fuel being given, no system developed for selling and transporting bulk product that would be for sale."

Toubab do you think a Humble Toubab like yourself is smarter than Gambian villagers and Gambians in general am just asking?

Don't applaud me Touby my loyalty is not based on any individual or party, I am what you call a typical FREE man. I know absolutely nothing about the workings of the APRC or plans, what I know is that they are doing a formidable job. I am an average Gambian wanna be writer and thats about it, I can assure you that I am one of the few children who wanted to study political science and was made to withdraw last minute before graduation due to the sick men involved at the time so I became an Engineer and a jack of all trades master of none. Am out to fix that for good though......................................Peace




I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 20 Jun 2011 02:43:02
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toubab1020



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Posted - 20 Jun 2011 :  13:44:04  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Moe, put you glasses on,you failed to notice the word "greed" I do not abhor the law or justice I welcome them and I agree they are vital to democracy, Your question,"Toubab do you think a Humble Toubab like yourself is smarter than Gambian villagers and Gambians in general am just asking? " Of course I am not smarter,BUT I have experience of the outside world and education and a free mind therefore I am able to comment on things in a different way observing DEVELOPMENT in the world,The AVERAGE Gambian villager and Gambian has not had the advantages that you and I have had the opportunity to take up ,therefore this view of things is going to be different and more traditional,is that wrong ? of course not, But if a country is to progress and keep up with the rest of the world then its people must be educated to the highest level possible and be exposed to thinking of the outside world, in order to decide what is right for his country and be FREE to express his thoughts and opinions.
MOE I do applaud your loyalty,you have chosen to be blinkered in your approach to openness and variation in ideas enshrined in the ideology that you follow,but that's what you believe in OK.
(this will interest you, have read: http://www.eionet.europa.eu/gemet/concept?cp=13335&langcode=en&ns=1 )Too deep for me I am a simple fellow
I am sorry that you have had to delay your chosen career path and become an engineer,someone who deals in practical applications and is bounded by strict guidelines,instead of the fluid state of politics where changes of mind apply quickly according to circumstances that you find yourself in.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 20 Jun 2011 13:49:02
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 21 Jun 2011 :  07:01:49  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Touby, This is a reassurance nothing absolutely is delayed in my life, It's a career decision I decided to take when I was a teenager, The first time I ever posted on Bantaba I was still a teenager yet a grown Man nowadays,I did a lot of crap after I became an Engineer, I ain't here to discuss my CV but rest assured I also became a Six Sigma black belt holder, and several other things am not up to discussing with Ya. This should be a suggestion of why I know what I know, I have no connections in Gambia bro, so all of ya'll need to chill out, The government knows it for What I say did not come from their desks.

"someone who deals in practical applications and is bounded by strict guidelines,instead of the fluid state of politics where changes of mind apply quickly according to circumstances that you find yourself in."

Well I tend to disagree because I know for a fact my life revolves around policy implementation and strategic planning not to mention dealing with queers.................................................Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 21 Jun 2011 07:52:38
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toubab1020



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Posted - 21 Jun 2011 :  13:04:49  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Sorry Momodou, this topic has gone off the rails,I have finished now, but I don't know about MOE



MOE,didnt want to pry into your affairs,I havn't asked you questions you told me about yourself and I detected a feeling that you were unhappy that you could not follow the career path that you wanted but had to go a different way,good luck to you and I hope you are enjoying your life as it is,BUT to me it is curious that you have such insight into things Gambian if you have no connection there,posters read and respond to your views that sometimes appear to be extreme.I read your last sentence and I am confused,but hey you have written what you have written and I do not understand these words:
"Well I tend to disagree because I know for a fact my life revolves around policy implementation and strategic planning not to mention dealing with queers.................................................Peace"
that's my fault,because I am not you ,if you want to clarify your meaning then please do, if not, don't bother.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 21 Jun 2011 13:08:25
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