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toubab1020
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 Posted - 08 Mar 2011 : 01:41:47
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Simple,KOBO, as I wrote in the linked topic on 7th February:
"There you are KOBO,the UK is just the same as the Gambia.....NO MONEY."
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Originally posted by kobo
Related Bantaba world politics topic Why the change ? under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10321
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 08 Mar 2011 : 17:20:15
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I think the British should still help the Gambian people in another form rather than witdrawing entirely the fund meant to help the poor citizenry.
There are so many kinds of projects they could help us with by diverting such funds into it and send people to co ordinate its implimentation. We need aid from the very people who crafted us.Gambia was thought to have been too small to become an independant nation on its own pre independance but it was at the insistance of the very colonial masters that they would not give the Gambia away to france to merge with a larger Senegal that Sorrounded it.
They knew the Government is corrupt to the core when they were giving aid through them.I think the British are wiser and far more knowlegeable about the Gambia than that. |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Mar 2011 : 20:31:22
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Originally posted by toubab1020
Nyarikangbanna
I think you misunderstand what I mean, I mean that Sister O played the political game well ACCORDING TO THE POLITICAL AFFILIATION that she supports,I did not write that I believed what she wrote was correct,in fact I agree with the stance taken by Gambiabev which is the exact opposite to that taken by Sister O ,red tape exists and has always with the British but not to the great extent that everything is swallowed up by it as Sister O would have us believe.
Toubab, thanks for your clarification. What makes me angry, and I am angry indeed, about sister O is that she pretends to know all when in fact she doesn't. She doesn’t even understand what is at stake here. This £2.2 million was given to the Gambian government annually for many years now, to sponsor four main programmes;
1. Help improve the capacity of the judiciary and the justice delivery system
2. Increase the retention of girls at school
3. Build capacity for the civil society
4. Providing Anti-virual drugs for victims of HIV and Aids.
A recent review of these programmes shows that only 'the girl retention at schools' registered success. All the others have woefully failed including care for HIV and aids victims.
We all know that the Gambia government has been undermining the judiciary through interference and hiring and firing of adjudicators -judges and magistrates- without due process being followed; that President Jammeh does not like the civil society to grow as he perceives them as covert opposition and therfore,a threat to his rule; and that the National Aids Programme has been undermined and rendered obsolete by President Jammeh’s bizarre Aids cure claim and treatment programme. So clearly, the government is not interested in delivering these programmes and was not going to invest money in them anyway. The question then is; where has the hundreds of millions of dalasis worth of direct British aid gone? No doubt it has been squandered. Absolutely no question about that.
The Essau-Kerewan road cost D100 million. That means with British aid money, we could have;
• Built five of its kind over the last 5 years
• Provide money for the marketing of farmers’ produce
• Maintain a decent stock level of drugs in our hospitals and Health Centres
• Improve teaching standards in our schools especially in the core subjects like maths and English
• Engender poverty alleviation programmes in the country to save the girl child from the dangers of prostitution and sex slavery.
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These are the things Sister O should have really talked about if she understands and care about the issues at stake. Gambian lives are being put at risk thanks to the failure of the partly British funded Aids programme, not the subsequent funding withdrawal as the money given has and is still not being used for the intended purpose anyway.
Gambians need to hold their government to account and demand answers as soveriegn citizens, not subjects. Sister O can either help us in that or forever keep her silence.
Thanks
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Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 09 Mar 2011 08:12:02 |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 08 Mar 2011 : 21:14:17
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Nyarikangbanna,
Sister O wrote earlier:
"my time is limited at the moment to engage fully in the debate."
You have raised points that I am sure Sister O would wish to answer,when she has more time,as her time is limited at the moment she writes.I am sure that many on Bantaba will welcome her return to the debate when her time permits.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 19:02:33
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Absolutely, I will have to take a day off work when she is back. She cannot hold us to ransom with her spinning glibs.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 20:02:00
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Ah......... Yes, political spin,probably is taking private lessons from the middle east envoy,Errrrrrrr......... What's his name ?........... you know.........its...........Tim.........NO.......I remember now Tony Blair   |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 22:07:12
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Toubab1020,
How much can anyone enjoy Bantaba without you? I am so sorry you hate politics bad enough. |
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toubab1020
12314 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 22:58:52
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Originally posted by Karamba
Toubab1020,
How much can anyone enjoy Bantaba without you? I am so sorry you hate politics bad enough.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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toubab1020
12314 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 20:51:25
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Pleased to see that you now have a window in your schedule as you have posted on bantaba quite a lot in the past few days, would you like to return to this discussion with Karamba.?
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Karamba the posted you quoted was subsequently deleted by me as I hadn't the time to finish it.
I just wanted to know before answering your question whether or not it was normal withi the Head of State Club to have net worth just in case Jammeh was an exception rather than a rule. I leave it you'll to make a judgement as my time is limited at the moment to engage fully in the debate. So here goes : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heads_of_state_and_government_by_net_worth
Peace
Sister Omega
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 22:30:23
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Nyari just like everyone here I have a life away from the internet believe it or not so I post when I can. So rejoining this topic.
I think its a great achievement of the APRC government that school girl retention has succeeded despite its critics wanting it to fail.
It's great that the Bill Gates foundation has worked in the provinces supplying local people with mosquitoe nets and every house that has received those nets have been numbered. Local people have been given t-shirts to pass on the message about malaria prevention.
It's great that youth schemes are being promoted in the provinces to stop the outmigration from them to the Kombos.
The road programmes have been funded by the The Taiwanese Government, Kawaiti, Saudi, OPEC, and EU Funds and not the British government.
In regards to HIV/AID's condoms are more widely available now than in 1988 when the first Aid victim was identified in Gambia. There's more awareness about HIV/AID's within the country. There are moves a foot to raise the age of girl school leavers to deter early marriage and promote the importance of girl's education.
http://www.gambia.gov.gm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=282&Itemid=7
http://www.ukgambians.net/hiv_aids.htm
Below are the figures published by the Ministry of Argiculture concerning the meat products sold at the following locations.
As you will see that Kanilai farm sales its meat prices at the prices as Ndugukebbeh.
http://www.moa.gov.gm/images/stories/marketprice.pdf
Peace
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Peace
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Mar 2011 : 00:26:37
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Girl's retention in schools , yes and I have stated that. Others; another mumbo jumbo. Anyway, how the hell does any of your arguments here support the notion that the D100MILLION given to the Gambia by the British government annually, is well spent?
I will love a coherent answer, and plase don't try to tell me anything about the NdugouKebbeh Loumo. I know that place like my finger tip. There is a cross-border trade dimension there that you don't understand.
The mosquito net damping has being going on since I was in Primary School sponsored by WHO and UNICEF, and that is PPP era but none governmental in nature. So I don't how you can relate that achievement to APRC or direct Britis aid. Bill Gates funding is done through UNICEF.
Toubab, you have successfully lured her back to this topic. That is quite clever of you. Well done.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Mar 2011 : 08:40:54
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Nyari as Malaria is an ongong diease of course the Billl Gates Foundation is relevant today stop talking nonsense.
The points I've been raising with my examples is that Gambia is no longer in the pitful state as it was when the PPP was running the country. Then the whole government was overly dependent on British Aid where is your pride.
Nyari challenges and opportunities are what life's all about. If you didn't have any challenges and goals aspire to. Then what you would have is a dysfunctional society. So really if D100 million of British has been withdrawn from Gambia then its the Gambian government/s responsibility to fill the deficit. That's what Governments do take responsibility. So instead of whining like a snotty nosed child Nyari Man-UP !
Peace
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Peace
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 : 02:42:45
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Sister Omega,
How tight you close your eyes to the truth is both amazing and depicting.
Will you for once embrace reality for your own good. |
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Edited by - Karamba on 15 Mar 2011 03:16:41 |
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