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Karamba
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 Posted - 09 Feb 2011 : 22:40:56
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Here is a typical case of interference with the electoral process. It is the type of situation against which a warning flag was raised for Kobo, PDOIS, and OTHER PARTIES. If you are reading Kobo, what the linked report contains is my concern. Long before elections, the count is done. Yaya Jammeh blowing powdered pepper on the face of play mates to blind everyone. Here we go;
http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/crr-chiefs-speak-ahead-of-2011-presidential-election
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Feb 2011 : 09:44:00
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Karamba! NO ONE IS DISPUTING FACTS ON THIS TOPIC AND REPORT MESSAGES ARE DIFFERENT
You appear to be loosing focus or disorientated on the issues for certain topics A SIGN OF DESPAIR FROM OPPONENTS OF APRC AND CONCEDING VICTORY WITHOUT ANY CHALLENGE OR WORST BY ENCOURAGING VOTER APATHY OR BOYCOTT
For example these two related Bantaba Gambian politics topics; information transmitted reflects different issues, two different situations and different conditions. Same political atmosphere but one that favours APRC and the other being confronted by opposition parties YOU MAY REFER TO THESE TOPICS AND TAKE NOTE MY OPINIONS ON THEM
1. HERE CIVIL SERVANTS, REGIONAL GOVERNORS, CHIEFS & ALKALOS ARE EXPOSING WHAT THEY OWE APRC - The opposition has No chance- Waa Juwara under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10285
2. HERE PDOIS EMBARKED ON ACTIVE CAMPAIGNING & SENSITISATION FOR GOVERNMENT TO ENCOURAGE EVERY CITIZEN RIGHT OF SUFFRAGE. FIGHTING A BATTLE FOR ALL OPPOSITION PARTIES TO SENSITISED THE PUBLIC, CIVIL SERVANTS, GOVERNORS, CHEIFS, ALKALOS - PDOIS’ SECRETARY GENERAL ISSUES PUBLIC NOTICE under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10382
"I wish to take this opportunity to call on all the Governors, the District Chiefs, the Village Heads and the law enforcement agents to respect and uphold the letter and spirit of the Constitution and the laws of the land and create no obstacle to our sensitisation campaigns." Halifa Sallah PDOIS Secretary General
CERTAINLY THERE IS "INTERFERENCE WITH THE ELECTORAL PROCESS" BUT THE STRONG LEADERS AND THOSE ON THE GROUND ARE NOT COMPLACENT BUT FIGHTING HARD TO SENSITISE ALL CITIZENS ON THOSE ISSUES
ALSO NOTE THESE CONFLICTING NEWS:-
1. FROM OBSERVER NEWSPAPER CRR CHIEF BIRAN BALDEH DECLARED; "“Farmers are selling groundnuts on no credit buying, thanks to President Jammeh and his government,” he noted.
2. FOROYAA ON-LINE REPORTS OTHERWISE;
i. National News : Sandu Farmers Express Doubt. under http://www.foroyaa.gm/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6153
ii. Editorial : Groundnut Trade Still on a Murky Path
under http://www.foroyaa.gm/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6154
Related Bantaba Gambian politics topic Elections 2011 Voter Registration in March under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10408
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Feb 2011 : 00:43:51
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Kobo, your fixation gets to alarming proportions. What do you enjoy in tagging words on situations for the good sake of it?
These are not my words neither a report from me. Focus or lack of it, a group of chiefs have been reported for open political engagement. They are using the public position of chieftancy to propagate for AFPRC. That is seen as placing OTHER POLITICAL PARTIES at high level of disadvantage and far from free.
What can PDOIS and others do about that? I have nothing to fear but very free to observe and relay my observations. What are you confused about that led to dis-oriented conclusion? Being that the words are purely yours and yours alone, you have all the power to decide based on your perception.
One fact of life is where each person walks around with a big mirror that reflects the person's world view. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Feb 2011 : 09:18:22
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THANKS PROFESSOR KARAMBA AS YOU SHOOK MY HEAD! IF AM FIXATE YOU APPEAR TO BE ALREADY BEWITCHED TURNING THE DAGGER ON OPPOSITION, ALWAYS CRYING FOUL PLAY AND ISSUING RED CARDS IN THE GAME AND NOT TRYING TO OUTPLAY JAMMEH/APRC WITH OTHER OPPONENTS LIKE PDOIS & OTHER ACTIVE OPPOSITION PARTIES
PDOIS ARE AWARE OF YOUR "CONCERNS" AND IS NOT COMPLACENT LIKE OTHERS! THOSE ISSUES ARE BEING ADDRESSED ON DAILY BASIS AND OTHERS COMFORTABLY SAT BEHIND THE SCENES JUST CRITICISING WITH ALL KINDS OF RHETORICS, RAMBLINGS WITHOUT ANY ACTIOIN YOU APPEAR TO UNDER-RATE THEIR ACTIONS BUT YOU KNEW "EVERY LITTLE HELPS!"
THE ACADEMIC EXERCISE IS ENOUGH AND NOT MOVING JAMMEH\APRC BUT CONSOLIDATING THEM ALL OPPONENTS SHOULD FIGHT THIS COURSE TOGETHER BUT YOU ARE DEMORALISING THOSE FACING THIS CHALLENGE UNDER DIFFICULT CONDITIONS
YOU MAY OUTPLAY ME ON THESE INTELLECTUAL\ACADEMIC EXERCISES BUT ONLY MISS FIRING YOUR SHOTS FROM THE MONSTER WHAT ARE THE ANSWERS? WHAT CAN BE DONE? ANY ALTERNATIVE COURSE OF ACTION RATHER THAN LAYING YOUR ARMS TO SURRENDER
IN MY OPINION; YOUR ROLE (IF YOU JAMMEH\APRC OPPONENT) SHOULD BE SUPPORTING AS AN ACTIVE MILITANT AND CAMPAIGNING FOR OPPOSITION LIKE PDOIS TO OVERCOME ALL FLAWS IN THE SYSTEM IT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE
MAKING INEPT OR POINTLESS REMARKS AGAINST OPPOSITION PARTIES AND SERVING AS A REFEREE ON THE GAME IS NOT PRODUCTIVE
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Feb 2011 : 00:23:07
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Kobo
I man got know power, only mere spectator using bigs eye and setting flat ears to see and to hear what goes in the field. Man be no referee, neither lines man; simply keeps watching.
Cowardice, no! When everyone bows down to brutality of Yaya Jammeh, I man still keeps going. No retreat, no surrender. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Feb 2011 : 14:43:30
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quote:
Originally posted by Karamba
Here is a typical case of interference with the electoral process. It is the type of situation against which a warning flag was raised for Kobo, PDOIS, and OTHER PARTIES. If you are reading Kobo, what the linked report contains is my concern. Long before elections, the count is done. Yaya Jammeh blowing powdered pepper on the face of play mates to blind everyone. Here we go;
http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/crr-chiefs-speak-ahead-of-2011-presidential-election
PLEASE REFER FROM WHERE IT STARTED ABOVE AGAIN; SINCE YOU HAVE WIDE EYES AND EARS PDOIS IS AWARE OF YOUR "CONCERNS" AND ARE AT FOREFRONT FIGHTING ALL POLITICAL BATTLES CHALLENGING BOTH AUTHORITIES AND EVERY CITIZEN ON & ON (UNDER YOUR NOSE, EYES AND EARS) WITH THIS WAR CRY ("No Retreat NO Surrender)"I CAME ACROSS FROM THEM AGES AGO! DON'T YOU AGREE THAT EVERY DROP OF PEN IN FOROYAA ADDRESSED A CRITICAL ISSUE THAT IS CONCERNED WITH THE NATION OR EVERY CITIZEN THEREFORE MY ISSUE WITH YOU IS WHY SHOULD PDOIS TAKE EVERY BASHING AND DIS-CREDITING THEM ALWAYS HAVEN'T YOU REALISED HOW ACTIVE THEY ARE INVOLVE TO ADDRESS ANY NATIONAL POLITICAL ISSUE
ALSO I DON'T ALLEGED OR ASSUMED ANY "COWARDICE" BUT CHALLENGING YOU WHETHER THE ROLE YOU ARE PLAYING IS HELPING TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS WHAT IS YOUR OWN QUOTA AS AN OPPONENT (i.e. AGAINST JAMMEH/APRC & SIDING WITH OTHER OPPOSITION PARTIES) HOPE THAT YOU ARE NOT A REBEL OR RADICAL AGAINST THE SYSTEM WITHOUT A CAUSE
PLEASE YOU MAY EDIT ABOVE AND SLOT UDP ("LARGEST OPPOSITION PARTY"?) TO CHALLENGE OR INVITING THEM MAKE A STATEMENT ON YOUR CONCERNS FOR THE LINE WITH "PDOIS and OTHER PARTIES" (ABOVE) NOW READING; "UDP and OTHER PARTIES"
IT IS NOT WORTH MENTIONING OTHER OPPOSITION PARTIES ESPECIALLY NRP; AS THEY APPEAR DORMANT
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Feb 2011 : 18:34:02
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What is wrong with "PDOIS and other political parties"?
Kobo, your excessive defence could harm where it goes far enough. In the look of things, PDOIS is free to criticise and disagree and the role of others (people and parties) is to accept the 'all right' PDOIS position and hard core views. That's interesting. The evidence stands out.
In passing, it suffices to state that PDOIS has done all the thinking and therefore, the rest (people and political parties) have to consume or risk sterving of ideas. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Feb 2011 : 01:17:43
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What is wrong with "PDOIS and other political parties"?
VICE VERSA WHAT IS WRONG WITH "UDP and other political parties"
I MADE MY POINTS VERY CLEAR THAT UDP SHOULD BE CHALLENGED AND INVITED TO MAKE A STATEMENT. PDOIS IS DELIVERING WITH VIBRANT SENSITISATION PROGRAMME AND TACKLES ALL NATIONAL ISSUES AS POINTED OUT ALREADY! THEY ALREADY FORMULATE STRATEGIES FOR AGENDA 2011 AND ACTIVELY INVOLVED SELLING IT TO THE PUBLIC (ALL CITIZENS); WHICH YOU ARE ALREADY AWARE? SO WHY CAN'T YOU BE BOLD ENOUGH TO CHALLENGE OR INVITE UDP (OUR "LARGEST OPPOSITION PARTY") MAKE A STATEMENT ON YOUR "CONCERNS" DO YOU HAVE PROBLEM WITH THAT
Kobo, your excessive defence could harm where it goes far enough. In the look of things, PDOIS is free to criticise and disagree and the role of others (people and parties) is to accept the 'all right' PDOIS position and hard core views. That's interesting. The evidence stands out.
1. WHAT IS PDOIS "POSITION"
2. PLEASE POINT OUT THE "HARD CORE VIEWS" OF PDOIS IN THIS TOPIC OR FROM OTHERS
3. WHAT EVIDENCE STANDS OUT
In passing, it suffices to state that PDOIS has done all the thinking and therefore, the rest (people and political parties) have to consume or risk sterving of ideas. "IN PASSING" YOUR OWN PERSONAL OPINION, JUDGEMENT & WRONG ASSUMPTIONS FOR PDOIS TO BE SMEARED BASED ON WRONG PERCEPTION OF MY OPINIONS
PLEASE TAKE NOTE THAT AM NOT A MEMBER OF PDOIS AND VIEWS ARE PERSONAL; WHICH I AM LIABLE AND TAKE FULL REPONSIBILTY HOWEVER IT WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR YOU TO SUBSTANTIATE ANY CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM AGAINST PDOIS TO CONVINCE US; WITH THOSE ALLEGATIONS
YOUR ARE ONLY EXPOSING YOUR DESPAIR, CRITICISING, BLAME GAME AND TAKING PDOIS AS SCAPEGOAT; WITHOUT ANY SOUND ADVICE THAT CAN HELP JAMMEH'S OPPONENTS AHEAD OF 2011. WHAT IS YOUR OWN QUOTA TO ADDRESS YOUR" CONCERNS" SINCE YOU DARE CHALLENGE OTHER OPPOSITION PARTIES; ESPECIALLY UDP OR NRP
ON A FINAL NOTE I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DENY THAT PDOIS IS NOT PLAYING ITS QUOTA AHEAD OF 2011 |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Feb 2011 : 00:25:30
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OK Master Kobo, here we go. You asked lot of questions and made some interesting remarks. Just a few will be taken on. Now that it is clear you are not PDOIS, is this by way of membership or not even a sympathiser? Yet, you stand taller than any person of special interest on this Bantaba platform, all out to chip and chop anyone who attempts expressing simple doubt about matters regarding PDOIS. That is so interesting Kobo.
Whether or not if I have any solutions. I am not sure what else you are counting as contribution. We all have our ways of contributing. For some, they brave the hostile political weather to engage in political parties. I believe PDOIS and other parties belong there.
Not everyone chooses to take the same route. Our interests and menus of engagement differ. On my own little part, the most I can do for the moments is make 2500+ slots of post on a platform read by thousands. That is my known limit to throw in with.
How that is judged, rejected, and appreciated, nothing I want to know. People are free to choose and you Kobo remain no lesser person to make that personal choice of opinion. Does it harm? Of course not. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Feb 2011 : 11:40:03
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Kobo, your excessive defence could harm where it goes far enough. In the look of things, PDOIS is free to criticise and disagree and the role of others (people and parties) is to accept the 'all right' PDOIS position and hard core views. That's interesting. The evidence stands out.
ON YOUR DOUBTS AND CONCERNS I HAVE FORWARDED PDOIS QUOTA ALREADY! HOWEVER WHAT ABOUT "UDP and OTHER PARTIES?" AHEAD OF 2011
I THINK YOU SHOULD WITHDRAW THAT STATEMENT IF YOU CANNOT SUBSTANTIATE THESE PLEASE
1. WHAT IS PDOIS "POSITION"
2. PLEASE POINT OUT THE "HARD CORE VIEWS" OF PDOIS IN THIS TOPIC OR FROM OTHERS
3. WHAT EVIDENCE STANDS OUT
HOWEVER WHAT ABOUT CHALLENGING "UDP and OTHER PARTIES?" AHEAD OF 2011 SEIZE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE THEM ON YOUR CONCERNS PLEASE
ALSO THIS YOUTH MOBILISATION MIGHT BE INTERESTING AHEAD OF 2011; AS DAILY OBSERVER NEWSPAPER REPORTS Youth solidarity march slated Feb.19 UNDER http://observer.gm/africa/gambia/article/youth-solidarity-march-slated-feb19
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Feb 2011 : 20:25:47
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Karamba! THAT'S THE THIRD TIME AM ENQUIRING FROM YOU TO SUBSTANTIATE YOUR REMARKS ABOVE AGAINST PDOIS I CONSIDER THEM AS BASELESS, MALICIOUS AND EXPECTED THAT YOU WOULD KINDLY ADMIT IT OR SET THE RECORDS STRAIGHT
THESE ARE THE KIND OF UNFAIR DENUNCIATION AGAINST PDOIS PEDDLED AROUND BY OTHERS TO GAG THEM, WITH ALL THAT THEY ARE DOING EXPECTED OF A DYNAMIC POLITICAL PARTY; TO SENSITIZE ALL CITIZENS AND AT THE FOREFRONT FACING THE HOSTILE POLITICAL CLIMATE
1. WHAT IS PDOIS POSITION
2. WHAT ARE PDOIS HARD CORE VIEWS
RELATED BANTABA GAMBIAN POLITICS TOPIC Elections 2011 Voter Registration in March UNDER http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?whichpage=1&TOPIC_ID=10408#65813 |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Feb 2011 : 02:20:42
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Answer 1: PDOIS has an agenda
Answer 2: PDOIS holds different views the PARTY stands by
Answer 3: The outstanding evidence is Kobo's resilience |
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kobo
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Posted - 17 Feb 2011 : 09:19:59
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quote:
Originally posted by Karamba
Answer 1: PDOIS has an agenda
Answer 2: PDOIS holds different views the PARTY stands by
Answer 3: The outstanding evidence is Kobo's resilience
YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINIONS BUT THOSE BRIEF REMARKS APPEARS RIDICULOUS AND DISINGENUOUS
1. WHAT IS PDOIS AGENDA AND WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS FOR PDOIS
2. WHAT ARE THE "HARD CORE" VIEWS DIFFERENT FROM WHOM, INDIFFERENCES OR WHAT YOU PERCEIVED THEM TO BE
3. THAT'S A PERSONAL CHEAP SHOT AND NO EVIDENCE IS TENDERED YET PDOIS VIEWS RESONATES WITH ME BUT PLEASE DON'T DIRECTLY BOMBARD ME BECAUSE AM NOT A PDOIS MEMBER OR PDOIS
I EXPECTED YOU BACKING YOUR ALLEGATIONS WITH PROPER REFERENCES, SOURCES OF INFORMATION AND RELATED BANTABA TOPICS ORIGINATING FROM STATEMENTS BY PDOIS; ESPECIALLY PUBLIC NOTICES, PRESS RELEASES, FOROYAA, MANIFESTO AND OTHER PDOIS POLITICAL INSTRUMENTS THAT'S NOT DONE YET BUT TRYING TO OUTSMART OR DIS-ORIENTATE US
THOSE ANSWERS ARE NOT SUBSTANTIATED AND ARE CONSIDERED AS "MERE MALICIOUS REMARKS" PLEASE ELABORATE OR BE HONEST TO SET THE RECORDS STRAIGHT
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Karamba
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Posted - 17 Feb 2011 : 20:20:41
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".......ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINIONS BUT THOSE BRIEF REMARKS APPEARS RIDICULOUS AND DISINGENUOUS..."
So that's not opinion at all?
Don't PDOIS have an agenda ? True/False
Is PDOIS not holding different views that the party stands by? T/F
Are you not resilient? Yes/No? Is your advocacy for PDOIS not outstandingly evident? |
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kobo
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Posted - 18 Feb 2011 : 11:28:42
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[quote]Originally posted by Karamba
".......ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINIONS BUT THOSE BRIEF REMARKS APPEARS RIDICULOUS AND DISINGENUOUS..."
So that's not opinion at all? YES IT IS BUT YOUR OPINION WITH PDOIS APPEAR TO BE MALICIOUS, RICULOUS AND DISINGENUOUS
Don't PDOIS have an agenda ? True/False TRUE IF YOU IMPLY AGENDA 2011! AGENDA 2011 ARE MERE TACTICAL AND STRATEGIC PROPOSALS FORMULATED BY PDOIS TO BOOST EFFORTS IN MOBILISATION OF PUBLIC OPINIONS, FOR ALL CITIZENS; ESPECIALLY OPPONENTS TO BE AWARE OF SUFFRAGE, SEIZE OPPORTUNITY (TOWARDS 2011) TO ESTABLISH THE GOVERNMENT THEY WANT AND CHART DESTINY OF THE COUNTRY AGENDA 2011 IS OFFERED FREE TO EXERCISE WILL BY PDOIS FOR OWNERSHIP BY ALL CITIZENS
Is PDOIS not holding different views that the party stands by? T/F THAT'S FALSE.
TO ELABORATE ON MY ANSWER PLEASE RECONCILE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH FOLLOWING STATEMENTS;
1. "We ask all our citizens to be an integral part of the change they seek by getting involved in whatever capacity suits them.Change is always a difficult task and along the way it is easy to become despondent, fearful, tired, angry, and sometimes be tempted to throw in the towel. But because the cause we have embarked upon is a just one that must be pursued, we must all strive harder to achieve these important goals. We however, can do it only if we come together as one and face the opponent. This cause is bigger than any individual or group of individuals."Lawyer Ousainou Darboe (Leader)UDP New Year Message
2. KEY POINTS SUMMARY OF NEW YEAR MESSAGE ON SALIENT ISSUES AND PDOIS RESOLUTIONS FOR 2011:-
Compatriots, 2011 is not an ordinary year. It is a year of contemplation, stock taking and decision making. Awareness is the key to sound decision making. The APRC is transforming the year to one of patronage and fanfare. PDOIS will transform it into a year of information sharing and awareness raising so that patronage and fanfare will not stifle the sovereign will of the Gambian people to become the architects of their own destiny.
We, the PDOIS leadership, wish to draw the attention of the leaders of all the political parties in The Gambia in particular and all civic leaders in general to our irrevocable duty to ensure that we build a Gambia where all may live in prosperity, freedom and peace each day. It is our candid view that wherever there is prosperity and liberty there will be unity, peace and happiness.
Political parties have the duty to enact the instruments, build the institutions and formulate the policies that should bring about the prosperity; freedom and peace that the people need and aspire to, once they are given the mandate to lead. They must make preparation to meet those needs and aspirations while waiting as opposition forces to be given the opportunity to lead. This signifies the essence of a functioning multiparty system.
We therefore hope that the leadership of all political parties in the country shall bear in mind that leadership is not an entitlement or a right ascribed to be monopolised by any particular individual, family, ethnic group or other lineages; on the contrary, it is a duty to be entrusted by the people, irrespective of their individual characteristics, to persons of their choice regardless of their origin. This duty to lead should be performed to promote the welfare of all, without fear or favour, affection or ill will.
Today no Gambian leader could be considered genuine unless he or she accepts in both word and deed, that power belongs to the people and that he or she is their mere servant.
Hence any national who wants to lead without deriving legitimacy from the consent of the Gambian people, through periodic free and fair elections is not fit to lead a Republic in the twenty first century. In the same vein, any one who harbours personal ill-will or hatred for any other national is not fit to preside over the fate of a Republic. A genuine leader of the Republic must have a heart and mind which speak the language of truth and justice. Such a leader must be ready to perpetrate injustice to none and do justice to all without fear or favour, affection or ill-will.
As we move towards another decisive phase in the political history of the country we hope the heart of each political leader would speak the language that befits a person who leads or aims to lead; a sovereign Republic and a Sovereign people.
In this new year, we wish to renew our promise and commitment to combat and eradicate the last vestiges of monarchical despotism from our homeland. We will follow the monarchists to every nook and crane of the country to oppose and expose their decadent vision of our people as subjects who need a King. We will sow the seed of sovereignty in every Gambian heart and mind so that no single Gambian who has an iota of dignity in him or her would ever be proud to be a subject or slave to his or her fellow human being. We shall record their anachronistic and decadent views.
Notwithstanding our determination to combat the monarchists, we would like to give assurance that a crown shall never be worn by the head of a Gambian on Gambian soil. That is the verdict of history and political science and it is irrevocable. That is the duty we owe to preserve the legacy of Edward Francis Small, the pioneer of the National Liberation struggle for Self Determination and Independence.
Secondly, the PDOIS leadership is currently aware that many people, who claim to be supporters of the opposition, are straining their vocal chords to perpetuate the view that 2011 is already a lost cause for the opposition. They claim that the main problem is PDOIS and UDP who are engaged in a power struggle. Instead of helping the Gambian people to know what PDOIS and UDP are proposing to effect democratic change in the country and then decide which strategy or tactic could lead us to achieve our aim of effecting Democratic change in the country, they are busy sowing the seed of political apathy by indicating that the victory of the APRC is inevitable. They have made themselves self appointed prosecutors and judges who are already identifying who to blame if their self fulfilling prophecy were to materialise. Those who resign to the inevitability of APRC victory and are comfortable in preparing their charge sheets before it happens are in fact accomplices of the APRC. Every word they utter kills hope instead of keeping it alive. Such people are perpetuators of voter apathy. They are in fact part of the problem. Just ask them whether PDOIS is proposing for UDP to endorse a PDOIS candidate. They would confirm that PDOIS is not and has never called on the UDP to endorse a PDOIS candidate. Ask them further whether PDOIS has not said that if a member of the UDP is selected at a primary by the people we will support the person and they would confirm that those are our very words. Where then is the power struggle between UDP and PDOIS?
Some people have approached us to question why the UDP is not automatically endorsed to lead a coalition. We have indicated to such people that in 2006 NRP endorsed the leadership of the UDP but the results revealed that UDP did not add the number of votes the NRP had in 2001 to its results in 2006; on the contrary, it even had less votes than it had in 2001. Hence automatic endorsement does not necessarily lead to the desired results. We have told people that if we sincerely want change we must find out the causes of voter apathy and deal with it.
Hence we want to be heard loud and clear that Agenda 2011 is not hatched to deprive the UDP of leadership. We, the PDOIS leadership, are not engaged in any power struggle with any opposition party. We came to the realisation that the number of people who did not vote at all was more than the number of people who voted for either President Jammeh or the other opposition Candidates combined. It is therefore clear that if one concentrates on the votes of those who voted for the opposition alone we would not be assured of victory in 2011. How are we to inspire the majority who did not vote to vote, and draw more voters from the camp of the ruling party to add to the camp of those who voted for the opposition, is the challenge that the opposition parties have to address in 2011. We called for a multi partisan primary to select one candidate for the opposition to contest the presidential election so that the candidate would automatically receive a multi party backing. We propose for the primary to be open to Independent Candidates so that the politically apathetic who do not support political parties would be drawn onboard because of the broad options.
We are also proposing for the victor to serve for only one term like Nelson Mandela because of the multi partisan nature of his or her selection and election. In short, a person who receives a mandate from protest votes should not lead on a partisan or personal basis but should satisfy the rectification demands of the electorate and create a level ground for individuals and parties to contest and get the mandate of the people on the basis of their policies and programmes. PDOIS policy is clear and without any ambiguity. It should be explained to the people and leave them to decide whether it is acceptable to them or not. Those who disagree with our position should formulate options to put before the people.
Let the future generation be informed that history has its fatalists and doubters. Edward Francis Small had to combat their fatalism to sow the seed of National Liberation in the Gambia. We will proceed to sow the seed of the sovereignty of the people and complete the democratic Revolution to its fullest phase to ensure that each Gambian recognises his or her sovereign power to determine the destiny of this country and entrusts that sovereign power to those who would guarantee their enjoyment of liberty, dignity and prosperity.Those who perpetuate this notion that 2011 is a lost cause for the opposition are on the wrong side of history.
What all Gambians who wish the country well and who are truly committed to democratic change should be saying is that, the APRC leadership has already overstayed. 30 years of one person leadership in the first Republic and 17 years of one person leadership in the second Republic is enough. We need a Government that will have the political will to create the instruments, Institutions and political culture which will make it impossible for one person to preside over the affairs of the Republic for more than ten years. Genuine democrats in the Gambia should spare no effort in campaigning for an end to self perpetuating rule in the Gambia.
This calls for them to innovate strategies and tactics to overcome the disadvantage. The Gambian people should evaluate each strategy and tactics to determine what could be more effective in yielding the desired results. The entire wrangling or clamour between so called UDP and PDOIS supporters is not based on evaluation of strategies and tactics put forward by the two parties to effect democratic change in 2011.
Critics rely on this to claim that the UDP and PDOIS are on each other’s throat. As far as PDOIS is concerned Gambia belongs to all Gambians and each has a right to elect or be elected. We have no qualms in any person being elected president. We will continue to serve the people as dictated by times and circumstances regardless of who is elected President. PDOIS does not stand for the politics of personality and character assassination. We are spending more time on the discourse about strategy and tactics between opposition forces because of the elimination of the second round of voting. Otherwise we would have called on all opposition parties to intensify their campaign to win enough votes to deprive the incumbent of 50 percent of the votes cast in the first round.
Our proposals are not recipes. They are articles of good faith which should be reciprocated by the formulation of other proposals that could be put in the public space for consideration by the voters.
Those who are inciting hatred among the opposition forces are also on the wrong side of history. The supporters of opposition parties are fully aware that if they head towards confrontation they will all end up being losers.It is the partisan elites who could even leave opposition parties and join the ruling party when it suits them who are the hardliners and who have become masters in peddling fiction as facts.
PDOIS respects the sovereignty of all persons and associations of persons in the form of political parties. We do not seek to dictate to anyone. Our focus is the sovereign Gambian people whose will and aspirations should dictate the policies of parties. Those who believe that they could win elections without coalitions should go ahead with their campaign on their own. We are convinced that charismatic leaders with a solid mass base like Nelson Mandela and Tumani Touray could rise up at the eleventh hour and create a wave for change. If we had such a personality in the Gambia he or she could call on people to give him or her support for change. Leaders and parties who should demand automatic recognition to lead a coalition are those who have a winnable support base. Those parties like PDOIS that is of the view that divided and apathetic votes cannot bring about democratic change should continue to put their proposals before the voters. They the voters would ultimately indicate which proposal will be able to unify the people of different parties and awaken the apathetic from their slumber.
PDOIS is responding to every burning issue in this country, the sub region, the continent and the world. PDOIS supporters should not be diverted to a discourse on the peculiarities of political leaders or pass judgment on behalf of the voters. They should draw the attention of others on PDOIS’ position on all issues of National importance and then ask the people to judge whether those positions are in the interest of our people in particular and the people of the world in general. This is the task of a genuine party supporter and not the trading of insults, subterfuges and tirades.
As for the issue of a coalition in the coming elections, we are convinced that with the elimination of the second round of voting there is need to prevent the voters from being apathetic or divided. We have endorsed a strategy on the way forward and all parties who also have the aim to combat political apathy and the division of voters should come up with their strategy and tactics on how to achieve our common aim.These strategies and tactics should be forwarded to the voters in good faith so that they will exercise their minds to determine what is acceptable to them. We therefore call on all PDOIS supporters to devote their time on the task of telling the people the strategies and tactics that are being put forward to create a formidable opposition force for Democratic change in 2011. Clarity, conviction, openness and willingness to debate in good faith are the tools PDOIS supporters need to be part of the solution of the problems of the Gambia. Those who incite hatred and fatalism have no place in PDOIS:
There is no need for any one to despair. Where there is sincerity, clarity and conviction all difficulties will be surmounted to attain victory. The people of the Gambia should pay a deaf ear to any political leader who seeks to sow the seed of despair. Leaders are inspirers and problem solvers and not prophets of gloom and doom. They create possibility where others see only impossibility. We therefore call on all political leaders who wish to earn respect to desist from claiming that a coalition between parties is made impossible by hatred and insincerity.
Coalitions are not formed based on love, otherwise, Gbagbo and Soro of Cote d’Ivoire would not have been able to be part of the same Government. Coalitions come about through the dictates of interest, time and necessity. This is why the NCP came to form a Coalition with the APRC. This is why NDAM is able to work with APRC today. This is why NRP forged a link with UDP. Neither UDP nor NRP would accuse the other of harbouring members imbued with hatred and insincerity to cause their split. In our view, it is interest, time and circumstances which led to the split. The task of finding out causes is left to historians and academics. Political leaders and political activists should focus on combating political apathy and any division among the voters who want democratic change. Those who make it their duty to inspire the apathetic to become active and the voters who want change to endorse tactics and strategies that will unify them are part of the solution. Those who incite hatred among the voters and spread the view that the cause of democratic change is lost are part of the problem. They are the ones who will be indicted by history for having failed to act in accordance with the dictates of the public interest and the exigencies of our times and circumstances.
We, the PDOIS leadership, are convinced that a Grand Coalition of the People is necessary and possible if democratic change is to be effected in 2011. We are convinced that there is no gulf that is wide enough between the opposition that cannot be bridged in the interest of the people.
In our view, opposites could be united by common interest, especially if the interest is the public interest. What is necessary is to create democratic instruments and institutions which could permit them to cooperate to serve the public interests despite their diversity. This is the mechanism which binds parliaments where one has opposition and ruling parties. It is instruments and institutions which enabled opposites to coexist in NADD. This is why we also instituted that if the party leaders did not agree on a candidate the people will be left to select one at a primary to ensure that a multi partisan choice of the people emerged. Since ultimate victory in an election would have to come from the votes of diverse party or non party members; PDOIS sacrificed its individual party interest to be part of NADD.
In a normal multi party system each party should struggle to earn the trust and confidence of the people by its own policies. We do not have a normal multi party system. There is no second round. It is therefore prudent for the opposition to have their own first round as a tool to get every one involved. In our view, an alliance of the people irrespective of party affiliation is the most durable form of alliance. An Alliance of parties in the absence of a second round is proving through practice to be the least durable form of alliance since any party or individual could abandon the alliance at the eleventh hour and rely on the most precarious pretext to justify its action. We are firmly convinced that democratic change is desirable and possible and we will do our best to ensure that a viable opposition candidate emerges to contest the 2011 Presidential elections. This is the verdict of the popular will and common sense and it is incontrovertible.
PDOIS wishes to alert all Gambians that democratic change is only possible if the people have the aspiration and exercise the will power to make it possible.
Halifa Sallah PDOIS Leader
MORE PDOIS ON-GOING ACTIVITIES AND PROPER SOURCES OF INFORMATION FROM RELATED BANTABA GAMBIAN POLITICS TOPICS;
1. PDOIS' NEW YEAR MESSAGE- HALIFA SALLAH UNDER http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10305
2. PDOIS Embarks on a Nationwide Sensitisation tour UNDER http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10389
3. PDOIS’ SECRETARY GENERAL ISSUES PUBLIC NOTICE UNDER http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10382
Are you not resilient? Yes/No? Is your advocacy for PDOIS not outstandingly evident?
Karamba! I TOLD YOU AM NOT A MEMBER OF PDOIS SO WHY TRYING TO SMEAR PDOIS THROUGH OUR EXCHANGES I AM RESPONSIBLE AND LIABLE FOR MY STATEMENTS, COMMENTS & OPINIONS BUT NOT PDOIS TO BE DISCREDITED FOR ANY FLAWS
ANY DYNAMIC POLITICAL PARTY HAS ACTIVE ROLES, ITS OWN TACTICS, STRATEGIES, PROPAGANDA, SENSITISATION AND MOBILISATION OF PUBLIC OPINIONS; BUT YOU WANT TO MISREPRESENT OR DISTORT FACTS, VIEWS, PROPOSALS, POSITION AND PURPOSES FOR SERIES OF PUBLIC INFORMATION COMPILED BY PDOIS FOR THE MASSES; ESPECIALLY CITIZENS & ALL OPONENTS
I AM DETERMINED NOT TO ALLOW YOU TO SCORE CHEAP POINTS AGAINST PDOIS AND ON THIS TOPIC IT IS EVIDENT TO RECKONED THEM AS A DYNAMIC POLITICAL PARTY; ACTIVE IN INFORMING, SENSITISING, CAMPAIGNING, MOBILISING CITIZENS WITH FLEXIBLE TACTICS AND STRATEGIES TO DECIDE DESTINY OF THE COUNTRY AHEAD OF 2011!
TO ERR IS HUMAN BRO. AND EXPECTED YOU WOULD CONSIDER WITHDRAWING YOUR STATEMENTS, IN DECENT POLITICS, DIPLOMACY OR AS PART OF AN ELITE GROUP OF CITIZENS (WITH DUE RESPECT/HIGHEST REGARDS TO YOUR FACULTY) AMONGST OTHERS; WITHOUT ILL WILL HOPE NO MORE GIMMICKS AND YOU WILL GIVE ME A BREAK NOW IN ORDER TO ALLOW OTHER MILITANTS CHIP IN ON "UDP and OTHER OPPOSITION PARTIES AHEAD OF 2011
ANY PROGRESS FROM OTHER OPPOSITION SINCE NEW YEAR MESSAGES FROM LEADERS; ESPECIALLY UDP, NRP OR GMC, ETC
EVERY HOUR, DAY, MONTH PDOIS IS VOCAL ON TRACK AND CONFRONTING ANY NATIONAL ISSUE FOR SENSITIZATION OF CITIZENS! TRUE OR FALSE |
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Karamba
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Posted - 18 Feb 2011 : 20:49:18
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Kobo,
The more you throw in, the clearer it becomes where you're coming from. Unlike you, several PDOIS hard hands hold the position that the party is UNIQUE in character, policy, and form. This is not my creation.
But, come on man, which two political parties are the same anywhere in the wide world, and of course in Papa Gambia? It is that individuality my post sought to demonstrate. If you still disagree with that, I have no worries standing by it. PDOIS has an agenda different to what any other Gambian political parties have. Still, don't think so, leave it with me. PDOIS has a media platform to bench the diverse political products for public consumption. If all that fails to pitch out the party as distinct, then good man, I remain utterly puzzled.
Going by your level of steam in handling this exchange it appears that anyone who mentions PDOIS has either got to recognise and praise all that has been achieved (the Jammeh ways) or refrain. Remember PDOIS or any party for that matter sticks out to grab public votes. Every member of the larger public has a say about ALL political parties. I cannot see how a party can be exempted from public scrutiny. Again, am I saying that PDOIS does not provide occasion to be scrutinised? Oh no!
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