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Posted - 17 Jun 2021 : 21:54:07 GAMBIA-L Digest 4
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) West Africa News - Niger Basin: 17 February 1996 (fwd) by "Roddie L. Cole" <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> 2) Re:The boys will not leave willingly. by L Konteh <L.Konteh-95@student.lut.ac.uk> 3) THE LIST, THE list, the list, ... by Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> 4) Welcome by Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> 5) Owners Manual by Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> 6) Users' Manual by Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> 7) Country Codes by Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> 8) Welcome to Dana Ott ... by Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> 9) Re: Welcome to Omar courtesy of SAM ?? by "Roddie L. Cole" <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> 10) by "Roddie L. Cole" <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> 11) RE: Questions answered by L Konteh <L.Konteh-95@student.lut.ac.uk> 12) THE boys ARE ROBBING US BLIND, THAT'S WHAT! by <JDG.L.LANGE.LWCLK@CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US> 13) Re: Owners Manual by Gabriel Ndow <gndow@auc.edu> 14) Re: Owners Manual by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 15) Re: Owners Manual by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 16) membership by Gabriel Ndow <gndow@auc.edu> 17) membership by <JDG.L.LANGE.LWCLK@CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US> 18) Subscriptions ... by Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> 19) re: Subscriptions ... by "Dana Ott" <dott@usaid.gov> 20) Re: Owners Manual by "Roddie L. Cole" <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> 21) re: Subscriptions ... by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu>
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 09:20:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Roddie L. Cole" <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> To: gambia-L@u.washington.edu Subject: West Africa News - Niger Basin: 17 February 1996 (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960218091544.18671A-100000@chabot.ced.berkeley.edu>
I thought this article on the UNCHS (Habitat) in Nairobi which is headed by Dr. Wally Ndow, an eminent Gambian, might be of interest.
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UNITED NATIONS: U.S. and U.N. Quarrel Over Housing Fund
by Thalif Deen
UNITED NATIONS, Feb 14 (IPS) - The United States and the United Nations are embroiled in a dispute over the funding of an upcoming U.N. conference on human settlements (Habitat II).
The United States has challenged the decision of the Nairobi- based Habitat secretariat to dip into a housing fund for 1.4 million dollars to pay for the conference's preparatory work.
''We do have serious questions about the financing and accountability of activities in the centre in Nairobi and will urge the U.N. Inspector General to audit and investigate those activities,'' said James Rubin, a spokesman for the U.S. Mission to the United Nations.
But Wally N'Dow of Gambia, Secretary-General of Habitat II, says his secretariat has done nothing irregular or devious.
''We did this very openly and very transparently,'' he said here Tuesday. ''All concerned knew about it, including the donors.''
The New York Times reported Sunday that several Western countries were demanding an investigation into the accounts of the Jun. 3-14 conference in Istanbul, Turkey.
Habitat II, which is being overseen by the Nairobi-based U.N. Centre for Human Settlements (UNCHS), is the last in a series of major U.N. conferences since the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro. The primary objective is to help resolve the world's housing problem.
The United Nations estimates that about half a billion people have no homes or adequate shelter. In the next 20 years, nine in 10 of the world's megacities are expected to contain more than 24 million people, and all except Japan will be in the developing world.
The Habitat secretariat has borrowed about 1.4 million dollars from a fund set up to aid housing projects in developing countries. ''So far we have paid back 500,000 dollars, and we are actively pursuing the rest,'' N'Dow said.
Mark Hildebrand, director of programmes at the Habitat office, told reporters the fund from which the money was borrowed was not earmarked to build houses for the poor. Rather, it financed the programme activities at the Habitat headquarters and technical assistance to improve settlements. The fund supports projects in 81 developing nations, Hildebrand said.
Responding to questions from reporters, U.N. spokeswoman Sylvana Foa said she did not know ''what all the fuss was about.''
''When the United Nations borrows over a billion dollars from peacekeeping operations -- not paying the money we owe to some very poor countries -- to keep our regular programmes going, no one says anything,'' she said.
''But when we borrow about a million dollars to give this conference a shot in the arm, there is all this fuss and much ado. I think that some people have different values here,'' Foa said.
When the General Assembly sanctioned the first U.N. conference on human settlements -- the 1976 Habitat I -- countries voted seven million dollars for the meeting. But when the Assembly called for Habitat II 20 years later, the body only voted for 1.7 million dollars.
N'Dow said that through ''our own efforts,'' the secretariat has been able to mobilise an additional 23 million dollars. As a result, about 95 percent of the resources needed for Habitat II is coming from external resources.
N'Dow also pointed out that ''it has been known from the beginning that in the absence of resources, no conference preparatory activities could take place.''
''Yet, with only two years to go -- half the normal preparatory time for such global conferences -- it was also clear we could not afford to wait the one year or so normally required for such resources to start coming in,'' he said.
N'Dow said that under these circumstances, he was forced to borrow some resources from the fund.
''What I cannot emphasise too strongly is that everything has been done in strict conformity with the applicable U.N. Financial Rules and Regulations,'' he said, adding that at no time did the programme of the U.N. Centre for Human Settlements suffer.
The U.N. spokeswoman said there was nothing irregular about borrowing because ''we have been doing this for years.''
''We need to get this conference on the road, that's for sure,'' Foa added. ''Those funds will be paid back.'' (END/IPS/TD/YJC/96)
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 96 12:07:01 GMT From: L Konteh <L.Konteh-95@student.lut.ac.uk> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re:The boys will not leave willingly. Message-ID: <9602191207.AA22150@hpl.lut.ac.uk>
> > Hello Group Members > In answer to some of the questions raised, i will refer you to an interview a > jounalist of SUD FM from Senegal had with Jammeh. Foroya carried the full text > of the interview word for word. In it when asked where he got the money from > for all these development projects. Answer: From God. Question, how did God > give you money, did he handed it over to you or by some form of magic. Answer: > Do you magic your life?, asked Jammeh. No!, replied the jounalist.; and so the > interview continues... > > On the question of declaration of the $35 Million (Yes, $35 Million) from Taiwan, no, there was > no declaration. The only time one knew of a special development account was > when they fellout with Ebou Jallow.(their former spokesman). > > Can anyone tell me whether its right and > proper for a ruling government to hold an account different from central > government account which is administered by the Governor of central bank, > Accountant General , Auditor General and a host of government officials. > As a novice in accounting, can someone highlight me on that. > Thanks. >
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:27:25 CST From: Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: THE LIST, THE list, the list, ... Message-ID: <9602200027.AA12784@hope.soils.wisc.edu>
hi folks,
i guess you've by now heard the bad news from Serrekunda that their market was burned down early Sunday (Feb. 18) morning. it particularly sad that this happened on the 31st Independence anniversary of The Gambia. it seems to me that this would lend credence to talk of sabotage; that whoever did it, if someone at all did it, must have done so to give people something else to talk about on Independence day. the report i heard from the BBC's focus on Africa today (Sunday, Feb. 18) said that about 230 stalls were burned. in addition, most of the stores did not have any insurance coverage, so you can imagine how devastating the blow was.
anyway, on to the list ...
i have been re-working the intro and welcome files to get us ready to announce the list. in this regard, we'd go this way:
1. Amadou Janneh can send an annoucement, press release, or whatever to The Gambia and other interested media outlets, as soon as he can.
2. The subscription managers will begin to accept subscription requests according to the scheme:
Sarian Loum: Africa and the Middle East .COM .NET Amadou Janneh Asia-Pacific Europe .EDU
Latjor Ndow The Americas, and Others .ORG
i am sending the file containg the country codes under seperate cover, for the information of the subscription managers, as well as for reference purposes. the list is sorted by the 2-letter country codes, and seperated into regions. this way, whenever a subscription request is received, the managers will look at the top-level domain and the reponsible person will follow the procedure for handling subscription requests. thus, when someone sends a request from the address malang@somecompany.town.no the top-level domain name no' implying Norway will let Amadou know that this one's on his plate. he will then take up the subscription request.
3. the sequence of events leading up to joing the list is as follows:
a) applicant sends an enquiry to gambia-l@u.washington.edu' requesting info (by puting INFO' in the body of the e-mail). listproc automatically sends back the info' file (INFO.TXT', which i'm sending under seperate cover). the info file will also be sent to those requesting subcriptions to the list.
b) applicant completes the introduction form, and returns it to the appropriate subscription manager. this means that subscription managers have to remind applicants where to send the completed forms to. in other words, Amadou will have to tell those he's handling their requests that they have to return their forms to him.
c) upon accepting the applicants' request for subscription, the subscription manager will add the applicants name to the mailing list (see Owners' Manual). the subscription manager will also add the returned form in the archive of introductions (see Owners' Manual). let me say that the archive is not yet totally functional. i will experiment with it in the next couple of days, and get back to you regarding that. until then, it would be nice if subscription managers can file introduction forms, so that we can archive them later. i hope we can get things straightened out in the next week or so.
4. to recap:
i'm sending the following files under seperate cover.
a) the welcome file (subject: Welcome) b) the info file (subject: Info on Gambia-L) c) listproc owners manual (subject: Owners' Manual) d) listproc users manual (subject: Users' Manual) e) list of country codes (subject: Country Codes)
i've gone ahead and added these files to the list archive, so they should be available now to people sending requests for info from listproc.
also, i would like Tony to announce the list to Africa-L and Senegal-L, as well as put up USENET postings on soc.culture.african. you can append the info file to your postings if you so want.
finally, let me say that i was impressed with the debates that've been going on, about African unity and all that. i must say, as i've said before, that i'm a nationalist, and strongly believe in finding solutions to our national problems first. but then again, some one might disagree ...
that's about all for now. i wish you all a great week.
bye, Katim
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:46:35 CST From: Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Welcome Message-ID: <9602200046.AA12850@hope.soils.wisc.edu>
YOU'RE ON ...
WELCOME to GAMBIA-L, a mailing list for discussions on The Gambia, and related issues. The Gambia is a small country in West Africa with a strong tradition of peacefulness, in a generally turbulent region. GAMBIA-L is geared toward providing a forum for the exchange of ideas and information between people interested in developments in The Gambia, and issues relevant to the welfare of the country.
The mailing list is an open, collaborative one aimed at being as inclusive as possible, and at the same time fostering an atmosphere for healthy dialogue and debate. It is our sincere hope that you find the list enjoyable, and worthy of your while. This file describes the background, purpose, and features of GAMBIA-L, as well as guidelines on getting the most out of the service.
THE GAMBIA
The Gambia is a small (4,000 square miles or 11,295 sq. km) country in West Africa. It is surrounded by Senegal on all sides, except on the Atlantic coast, and for this reason the two countries have a lot of ethnic and cultural ties. In contrast to Senegal, a former French colony, The Gambia was colonized by Britain and gained it's Independence on February 18, 1965.
From Indepdence in 1965 to April, 1970 the country had a parliamentary democracy with a Prime Minister, and the Queen of England as the Head of State. The country became a Republic in April 1970, with an Executive President as the Head of State, and the Parliament as the Legislative body. In contrast to a number of African countries, The Gambia retained a democratic tradition, holding universal adult suffrage elections every 5 years. These elections were contested by a number of political parties, again in contrast to the single-party 'democratic' systems that were popular in a variety of African countries. The election system was slightly modified in 1982, with a change to the direct election of the President, rather than indirectly by the Members of Parliament.
The democratic tradition of The Gambia was briefly interrupted in July, 1981 with an abortive attempt to overthrow the government by the paramilitary Field Force. This attempt was crushed by Senegalese troops, who intervened on the pretext that the coup attempt was foreign inspired, and a threat to the welfare of the Senegalese community in The Gambia. President Jawara was restored to power, and in the aftermath of the events, entered into a Conferedation called Senegambia with Senegal. This confederation however, was to be dissolved in September, 1989 following irreconcilable differences between the parties.
A major milestone in The Gambia's political history was the overthrow of the Jawara government in July, 1994, by young, and junior officers of the Gambian military which had been built, following the July 1981 coup attempt, by Jawara himself. The military officers, under the leadership of then Lieutnant Yaya Jammeh, alleged rampant corruption and incompetence as the main reason for overthrowing the Jawara government. The military takeover was roundly condemned by the International community, most especially because Jawara had in the almost 30 years of his rule managed to establish an international reputation for adherence to democratic rule and human rights. Following intense pressure from both within The Gambia, and without, the military-led government announced a timetable for transferrring power to civilians in 1996, following a review of the constitution, probes in the wealth of public servants, and elections. The transition program is presently on.
On the economic front, The Gambia has been a primarily agricultural country. An estimated 81% of the population is engaged in agriculture, wihle groundnuts (peanuts) account for about 85% of export earnings (Country Profile 1993/94: The Gambia, and Mauritania. The Economist Intelligence Unit. 1993). With a trade policy traditionally more liberal than it's neighbors, because of a smaller industrial base to protect, The Gambian economy has always had a brisk re-export sector. Tourism, has been a large component of the service sector, which has accounted for up to 60% of the gross domestic product (GDP).
The Gambia is relatively densely populated, with a predominantly Mulsim population of slightly over 1 million (1993 census figures), and growing at an annual rate of approximately 3%. Major ethnic groups are Fula, Jola, Mandinka, Serahule, and Wollof. The illiterary rates is very high (73%), and this generally reflects the low Human Development Index (HDI) scores the country has. Thus, for 1992 The Gambias' HDI ranked 173 out of 192 countries. Per capita income, estimated at $360 (US) in 1991 was also amongst the lowest in the world.
Despite the economic poverty and political setbacks, The Gambia has always active in the International arena, being a member of the United Nations, the Organization of African Unity, and the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS). The Gambia has also provided troops to regional peace-keeping efforts, most notably in Liberia, as well as being an active participant in mediation efforts. This strong tradition of peacfulness, and respect for human rights was the reason why The Gambia was chosen as the Headquarters of the African Center for Democracy and Human Rights Documentation.
Given the relatively short but eventful history of The Gambia as an Independent nation, it is obvious that fostering debate and dialogue is not only a Gambian tradition, but also particularly important now that the country is embarking on a transition that will lead to a return to civilian and democratic rule. It is our hope that GAMBIA-L will provide another forum for such much needed debate and exchange of ideas.
GAMBIA-L
Developments in communications technology in general, and the Internet in particular has resulted in great opportunities for people in far-flung places in engage in almost instantaneous exchange of ideas. The most popular, and probably most powerful, of these technologies is electronic mail, e-mail for short. It is around this technology that an off-shoot service, mailing lists, have developed.
A few years ago, mailing lists linked people all over the world who had common interests about which they wanted to exchange ideas and conduct debates on. The focus of these interest-groups varied from recreational activities, to regional political developments. For example, a number of lists focusing on African and development-oriented issues were formed, and some of them continue to thrive.
With increased access to the Internet, it wasn't going to be long before the interest groups became more specialized. Thus, a variety of specialized, and country-specific groups started cropping up. These mailing lists generally were geared to linking nationals of different countries, as well as Internationalists with particular interest in these countries. Examples of these country-specific mailing lists include SENEGAL-L, and ZAIRE-L.
You can add GAMBIA-L to that list.
Although GAMBIA-L is only being formed in early 1996, much after a number of lists have left the gates, it has an respectable pedigree based on voluteerism and cooperation. The fact of the matter is that a manual mailing list on Gambian issues has been running for since August, 1994, following the overthrow of the Jawara government. The time has now come to formalize the list, and thus open opportunities for more people subscribe, thereby enriching the debate.
GAMBIA-L is aimed providing Gambians and those interested in Gambian and related issues, a means to communicate with each other, and exchange ideas and information of common interest. In the process, it is hoped that a spirit of cooperation, of exchange of ideas, of healthy debate and dialogue for the National good will be cultivated. True, ours might the one of the more recent lists, but be sure that we intend to make it one of the very best lists in cyberspace.
To attain the excellence we're talking about, GAMBIA-L will make maximum use of it's #1 ingredient: subscribers. Thus, management of the list will be shared by a number of volunteers, that will be rotated as and when needed. Further, the list will be organized such that all subscribers will be visible to others. We will not habor any concealed subscribers on this list. GAMBIA-L will also provide a rudimentary directory service, based on the requirement that each request for subscription be approved conditional on completion and submission of an introductory form by the applicant. These intros will be archived, and accessible to all list members. For this very reason, each applicant will be expected to have an intro on file.
Subscribers will be expected, and required to maintain a mature, and responsible tone in the contributions they send to the list. Political partisanship is definetly out. Further, slandering and libelling of people will not be tolerated, and will result in immediate and permanent loss of subscription.
The main features of GAMBIA-L are:
1. Subscription is open to all, conditional upon submitting a self-introduction form to the list 2. Subscribers will be able to get a list of other subscribers, and their e-mail addresses 4. Subscribers will NOT be able to conceal their e-mail addresses and from other subscribers 5. The list will be unmoderated, that is, all contributions will be distributed without intervention by listowners 6. The list will be published globally, meaning that it will be added to the global list of lists 7. The mail sent to the list will be archived, to enable subscribers access messages
The above features, and other more mundane ones such as the maximum number of messages to be sent out per day, have been chosen to provide the greatest convenience, security, and use to subscribers. Thus, sending contributors a copy of their submissions will enable them to keep track of debates going on. Also, denying subscribers the option to CONCEAL their subscriptions will ensure that everyone knows everyone on the list, or would if they so chose. This will hopefully allay fears about who is snooping, and who isn't.
COMMUNICATING WITH THE LIST
We are sending a file called INFO under seperate cover, detailing simple instructions on how to communicate with the mailing list. If you have any further questions, please do not hesistate to contact the list owners, or the list itself. Alternatively, you can also send an e-mail to the following address:
listproc@u.washington.edu
Leave the 'Subject' field empty, and put the word 'help' as your message.
CONCLUSIONS
The above was aimed at providing a brief introductory overview of the purpose, uses, and features of GAMBIA-L. It is hoped that all subscribers to the list will find it most useful, and enjoyable. In addition, it is hoped that the list will provide great opportunities for subscribers to not only get to know new people, and each other more, but also to find it a valuable resource for getting information about The Gambia. Finally, all this would come to naught if subscribers do not discharge their responsibilities with diligence. It is absolutely important that an atmosphere of cooperation, collaboration, and mutual respect be created and maintained. That, quite simply, is the only way to ensure that GAMBIA-L grows to be the very best it can be.
On behalf of all subscribers, we would like to welcome you to GAMBIA-L, and wish you a most rewarding experience.
Listowners February, 1996.
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:47:53 CST From: Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Owners Manual Message-ID: <9602200047.AA12865@hope.soils.wisc.edu>
List Processor 7.O Copyright (c) 1993 - 94 by The Corporation for Research and Educational Networking (CREN) List Owner/Manager Reference
Here is a brief description of the set of list management-related requests recognized by ListProcessor. This file is intended only as a reference guide to list management. For a complete explanation of how the list processor works, more detailed information on requests listed below, and examples of how to submit requests to the listprocessor, please read the List Owner/Manager Manual. List managers should also obtain the User Reference for a brief description of user requests and the User Manual for more detailed explanation of user requests.
The Listproc 7.1 User Manual and Owner Manual are available from the vendor via anonymous ftp at ftp.cren.net as postscript files. The names are listproc/ownerman.ps and listproc/userman.ps.
Everything appearing in [] below is optional; everything appearing in <> is mandatory; all arguments are case insensitive. The vertical bar ("|") is used as a logical OR operator between the arguments. Please note that the brackets or braces or parentheses themselves are NEVER a part of the request. In the syntax examples below, the word "list" must be replaced by your list name, the word "password" must be replaced by your list password. Requests may be abbreviated, but you must give at least as many characters as needed to distinguish the request from other requests or at least enter the first three characters.
All lists have four levels of management requests: (1) the listprocessor administrator, (2) list owners, who have ultimate control over the list, (3) list moderators, who do the day-to-day list management, i.e, receive messages to REVIEW, APPROVE, DISCARD, or FORWARD reviewed messages, and (4) subscription managers and error message recipients, both of whom have access only to requests relating to subscriptions to the list; specifically, they can ADD, DELETE, SET ...FOR, and REVIEW; however, error message recipients do not receive requests to subscribe to closed lists which subscription managers receive.
Any request which spans more than one line must have an ampersand (&) at the end of each line to indicate that the request is continued on the next line. Recognized requests are:
I. List configuration requests CONFIGURATION EDIT PUT REPORTS
II. Requests affecting list subscriptions ADD ALIAS DELETE IGNORE LOCK SET SYSTEM UNLOCK
III. Requests affecting posting of messages APPROVE DISCARD HOLD FREE
I. List Configuration Requests:
CONFIGURATION <list> <password> [<option> [args] [, <option> [args] ...]]
Get or set a list's configuration options. If the request, configuration, is sent to the listprocessor without any of the options below, it returns the list's current settings. Options are a comma-separated list of one or more of the following keywords. If the configuration request spans more than one line then each line must end in an ampersand (&) in order to indicate that the request is continued on the next line.
ARCHIVE [password] [messages|digests] NO-ARCHIVE
Turn on and off archiving of lists. Specify a password for subscribers' access to the archives and whether single messages are to be archived or digests. The request ARCHIVE submitted with no options results in non- password protected archive with archiving of individual messages, which is the default. If the owner wants to specify digests or messages and does not want to specify a password then a dash (-) is used in place of the password. If the owner wants to remove a password and not replace it then an empty string delimited by single or double quotes ("" or '') will remove it.
---- ARCHIVES-TO-ALL ARCHIVES-TO-OWNERS ARCHIVES-TO-SUBSCRIBERS
Specify who can request material from the archives. ALL: anyone can request index and archive material. OWNERS: only owners may request archive material and index. SUBSCRIBERS: only owners and subscribers may request index and archive material.
---- AUTO-DELETE-SUBSCRIBERS NO-AUTO-DELETE-SUBSCRIBERS
Turn on and off automatic deletion of subscribers whose mail bounces.
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CLOSED-SUBSCRIPTIONS OPEN-SUBSCRIPTIONS
When closed, the list will not accept any new subscribers.
---- WIDE-OPEN-LIST
WIDE-OPEN-LIST makes visible a hidden list, allows subscribers to add themselves to a list, allows anyone to post messages to the list, and allows anyone to request a review, statistics, or archives from a list.
---- COMMENT <string> NO-COMMENT
Sets the one line list comment (description) string. To remove the comment, an empty string delimited by single or double quotes ("" or '') will remove it.
---- DEFAULT <mailmode> <option> [<mailmode> <option>]
Set the default subscription options. Mailmode choices and options are:
address variable|fixed - variable allows a subscriber to change addresses with a request. - fixed requires a subscriber to unsubscribe from the subscribed address and resubscribe from the new address. mail ack|noack|postpone|digest - ack means a subscriber will receive a copy of his/her posting. - noack means a subscriber will not receive a copy of his/her posting. password <string> - sets a default user password. If not set a random password is assigned to new users. conceal yes|no - yes allows other people to see the user's name and e-mail address in a list of subscribers to a list. - no prevents others from seeing the user's s name and e-mail address. preference CCoption - determines which requests sent by users are copied to owners. CCoption can be one of: CCUNSUBSCRIBE, CCRECIPIENTS, CCINFORMATION, CCSTATISTICS, CCPRIVATE, CCRUN, CCIGNORE, CCERRORS, CCREVIEW, CCALL The 'default preference' only effects owners that are added after the change is made, current owners must change their options using the SET command.
Choosing a mailmode with an empty string as an option, designated by either two double quotes("") or two single quotes(''), causes the mailmode to revert back to the system default.
---- DELIVERY-ERRORS-TO <address> [address] REMOVE-ERRORS-TO <address> [address]
Specifies to which addresses copies of error messages are to be sent. Also removes recipients of error messages. ERRORS-TO recipients are able to send requests to ADD, DELETE, SET ...FOR, and REVIEW.
---- DIGEST <frequency> [when] daily hh:mm weekly Sunday|Monday|Tuesday|Wednesday|Thursday|Friday|Saturday monthly NO-DIGESTS
Turn on and off collection of digests and define when they will be distributed. This request requires specification of how frequently the digest should be sent out. Digests can be sent out daily, weekly, or monthly. If weekly, the day of the week can be specified. Digests are always sent out at midnight if the time is not indicated.
---- DISABLE <request> [request] ENABLE <request> [request]
Enable or disable specific user requests. This applies to specific user requests such as REVIEW or STATISTICS.
---- SET-DISABLE <mode> [value] [<mode> [value]] mail ack|noack|postpone|digest conceal yes|no password SET-ENABLE <mode> [value] [<mode> [value]] mail ack|noack|postpone|digest conceal yes|no password
Enable or disable specific user set requests. This applies to requests in which users set their mail mode such as SET MAIL ACK, conceal, or change their password. Owners can still SET ...FOR any requests which have been disabled.
---- FORWARD-REJECTS DONT-FORWARD-REJECTS
Enable or disable forwarding of reject messages to the list owners.
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KEEP-RESENT-LINES DONT-KEEP-RESENT-LINES
When forwarded mail is sent to a list this option enables or disables a header line indicating that the message is forwarded mail.
---- HIDDEN-LIST VISIBLE-LIST
Determines whether a list is visible or hidden when listprocessor receives a request for a list of lists. HIDDEN-LIST turns on ARCHIVES-TO-SUBSCRIBERS, REVIEW-BY-SUBSCRIBERS, STATISTICS-TO-SUBSCRIBERS, and SEND-BY-SUBSCRIBERS, all limiting access to information from the list to subscribers.
---- MAX-MESSAGES-PER-DAY <number> or MESSAGE-LIMIT <number> NO-MESSAGE-LIMIT
Determines the maximum number of messages a list will process per day. Messages above the maximum will be held until the next day and processed, or will be sent if the list is FREEed.
---- MODERATED-EDIT <address> [address] MODERATED-NO-EDIT <address> [address] UNMODERATED REMOVE-MODERATORS <address> [address]
Determine moderation of list. Moderated-edit sends the messages to the address provided for approval. The moderator(s) whose addresses are listed can then edit the message and send it back to the listprocessor for posting to the list. Moderated-no-edit sends the message to the moderator(s) for approval and includes a tag identifier in the first line. Moderator sends back an approval request giving the tag identifier only. If a list is MODERATED but no address is specified, messages are sent to owners for approval. See APPROVE request above.
Moderators may be removed with the REMOVE-MODERATORS request.
---- OWNERS <address> [address]
New owners may be added with the OWNERS request.
REMOVE-OWNERS <address> [address] ...
List manager, or list owners, if list is OWNER-CONTROLLED, may remove owners.
---- PASSWORD <string>
Set list management password.
---- SUBSCRIPTION-MANAGERS <address> [address] ... REMOVE-SUBSCRIPTION-MANAGERS <address> [address] ... REMOVE-ALL-SUBSCRIPTION-MANAGERS
Add or remove subscription managers.
---- OWNER-SUBSCRIPTIONS
Makes a list private. Subscriptions are approved by the designated people, either subscription managers or owners. Turns on ARCHIVES-TO-SUBSCRIBERS, REVIEW-BY-SUBSCRIBERS, STATISTICS-TO-SUBSCRIBERS, and SEND-BY-SUBSCRIBERS, all limiting access to information from the list to subscribers.
---- REPLY-TO-LIST REPLY-TO-LIST-ALWAYS REPLY-TO-SENDER REPLY-TO-SENDER-ALWAYS REPLY-TO-OMITTED
Determines whether replies automatically go to the list or to the sender of the individual message. If list is a digest replies always go to the list. When a list is set as REPLY-TO-LIST, REPLY-TO-SENDER, or REPLY-TO-OMITTED, if the sender includes a Reply-To: in the message header it takes precedence. However, if the list is set as REPLY-TO-something-ALWAYS then the user's inclusion of a Reply-To: in the message header will be ignored.
---- REVIEW-TO-ALL REVIEW-BY-ALL REVIEW-TO-OWNERS REVIEW-BY-OWNERS REVIEW-TO-SUBSCRIBERS REVIEW-BY-SUBSCRIBERS
Determines who can submit a REVIEW request for a list. ALL: Allows anyone to submit a request. OWNERS: restricts requests to owners. SUBSCRIBERS: Only subscribers and owners can submit requests. Commands using the word TO or BY are equivalent.
---- STATISTICS-TO-ALL STATISTICS-BY-ALL STATS-TO-ALL STATS-BY-ALL STATISTICS-TO-OWNERS STATISTICS-BY-OWNERS STATS-TO-OWNERS STATS-BY-OWNERS STATISTICS-TO-SUBSCRIBERS STATISTICS-BY-SUBSCRIBERS STATS-TO-SUBSCRIBERS STATS-BY-SUBSCRIBERS
Determines who can issue a request for list statistics. Commands using the word TO or BY are equivalent. STATS can be substituted for STATISTICS. ALL: Anyone. OWNERS: List owners only. SUBSCRIBERS: Limited to subscribers and owners.
---- SEND-BY-ALL SEND-BY-OWNERS SEND-BY-SUBSCRIBERS
Determines who can post to a list. ALL: Anyone. OWNERS: Limited to owners. SUBSCRIBERS: Both subscribers and owners.
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EDIT <list> <password> <filename> [-nolock]
Obtain the specified file for editing; the file can be one of: subscribers, aliases, news, peers, ignored, info, or welcome. The list will be automatically locked and no more list-specific requests will be issued until the list is UNLOCKed, a new file has been PUT in place, or -nolock is specified in the EDIT request.
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PUT <list> <password> <filename> [args]
Manipulate and change system files. Filename is name of file to change and is one of the following:
alias, ignore, subscribers, aliases, news, peers, ignored, info, or welcome
These files are obtained with the EDIT request, can then be edited and replaced with the PUT request.
If the PUT request is for an alias or ignore file the [args] consists of the address(es).
When PUTting a file, its contents start immediately after the request and span the entire message. No other commands can follow a PUT and no signature should be in a PUT request.
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REPORTS <list> <password>
Obtain all reports about the specified local list.
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II. Requests Affecting List Subscriptions [quiet] ADD <list> <password> <address> <user-name> or, for adding multiple user-names:
[quiet] ADD <list><password> {<address> <user-name>} {<address> <user-name>} & {<address> <user-name>} {<address> <user-name>} {<address> <user-name>}
Add the specified user(s) to the list. If more than one user is added you need to enclose each one in brackets {}. You may place multiple names on one line, as in the second example above or, to make it easier for yourself, place one name per line in brackets. If, however, you have more than one line in a request you must have an ampersand (&) at the end of each line to indicate that the request is continued on the next line. If the optional "quiet" switch is added before the request line, the user(s) will not be notified.
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ALIAS <list> <password> <new-address> <address-as-subscribed>
Alias an existing subscriber to a new address. Used in cases where a subscriber needs to be able to send mail from another machine or the subscriber's email address can appear in multiple formats. Mail will be accepted from both the address-as-subscribed and from the new-address. The <new-address> pattern may be an extended standard UNIX regular expression. For more information on regular expressions, see the section on that subject at the end of this file.
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[quiet] DELETE <list> <password> <address> [address] Delete the specified user(s) from the list. You may place multiple names on one line or, to make it easier for yourself, place one name per line. If, however, you have more than one line in a request you must have an ampersand (&) at the end of each line to indicate that the request is continued on the next line. If the optional "quiet" switch is added before the request line, the user(s) will not be notified.
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IGNORE <list> <password> <address>
Add a user to a file of troublesome users whose mail to a list should be discarded. The <new-address> pattern may be an extended standard UNIX regular expression. For more information on regular expressions, see the section on this topic at the end of this file.
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LOCK <list> <password>
Suspend execution of list-specific requests and queue them up for later processing. Owners may still issue such requests, unless the list is locked by the listprocessor manager. The list will still process messages.
UNLOCK <list> <password>
Resume execution of list-specific requests, including those queued up while the list was locked. All owners may unlock a list, unless it's locked by the listprocessor manager.
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[quiet] SET <list> [<option> <arg[s]>] for <address> [address] ...
Allows list owner to SET subscriber mail options for the subscriber(s). If quiet, the user(s) will not be notified.
Valid options and args are: mail <ack|noack|postpone|digest> password <current-password> <new-password> address <password> <new-address> conceal <yes|no>
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SYSTEM <list> <password> <user-address> #user-request The system request allows the list owner to issue any request on a user's behalf.
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III. Requests Affecting Posting of Messages to a List
APPROVE <list> <password> <tag> [tag][tag][tag].... [tag]
If your list is set up as a moderated list with the list manager not editing the individual messages (moderated-no-edit lists) then this will approve the message identified by the tag number for posting to the specified moderated list.
DISCARD <list> <password> <tag> [tag][tag][tag].... [tag]
If your list is set up as a moderated list with the list manager not editing the individual messages (moderated-no-edit lists) then this will discard the message identified by the tag number.
Both APPROVE and DISCARD will accept multiple tags on one line or on several lines, each ending in an ampersand (&) except for the last line.
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HOLD <list> <password>
Suspend distribution of messages but still allows users and owners to send requests to the list.
FREE <list> <password>
Resume delivery of a held list, or reset the message-limit to zero. If the listprocessor manager held the list, only he/she can free it.
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Regular Expressions:
Many owner requests take regular expressions as arguments. A regular expression specifies a set of character strings to match against, such as "any string containing digits 5 through 9" or "only lines containing uppercase letters." A member of this set of strings is said to be matched by the regular expression. A simple example of a regular expression is the unix command "ls myfil*" which will return a list of all files starting with the characters "myfil" such as myfiles.text, myfile1, myfile.new, etc. The * in myfil* tells the operating system to fill in the characters after myfil with anything. The command line of a listproc request is more like a regular expression as used in a database search. A regular expression in a database search allow you to append words and concepts; for example, you could say "find all files starting with 'myfil' and all files ending with '.text'." With the above example only the file myfiles.text would come up because of the three file names listed, that is the only one fitting both criteria. A more complicated search would be "find all files starting with 'myfil' and ending with '.text' or '.new'." This search would turn up both the files called myfiles.text and myfile.new from the file names listed above.
Some of the operators recognized by ListProcessor are:
& is the logical AND operator | is the logical OR operator ~ is the logical NOT operator < and > group expressions ^ matches the beginning of the string $ matches the end of the string . matches any character * matches the preceding expression zero or more times + matches the preceding expression one or more time [ and ] specify groups of characters \ is used to escape any of the above characters to force it to be interpreted literally () store whatever is inside them and can be accessed with \n where n is 1 number 1-9.
Here are examples of requests that use regular expressions:
lists global 'health|mental'~death
The above will compile a list of lists that contain either the word 'health' or 'mental' in either their list name or description comment but will exclude lists with the word 'death'. The way you should read 'health|mental'~death out loud is; "health or mental but not death".
lists global move$&dan$
will search for all lists containing BOTH the characters 'move' AND 'dan' so that move$ will return both movement and movies and dan$ will return both dancing and danger. But in order for you to receive a reply, the list will have to contain BOTH words. So a list about Dangerous Movies will show up in your search as well as a list about Movement and Dancing.
ignore <listname> <password> bart@^ar..+beta.org
This example will ignore a user named bart whether he posts from ar1.beta.org or from ar2.beta.org or art.beta.org.
alias <listname> <password> (.+)@host.domain \1@domain
will take anything inside the () and store it in \1 which is then accessed. For example, if homer@cs.domain sends a message, it will be translated to homer@domain.
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End of ListProcessor List Manager/Owner Reference
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:48:40 CST From: Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Users' Manual Message-ID: <9602200048.AA12870@hope.soils.wisc.edu>
List Processor 7.O Copyright (c) 1993 - 94 by The Corporation for Research and Educational Networking (CREN)
User Reference Here is a brief description of the set of user requests recognized by the ListProcessor. This file is intended only as a reference guide to list processor requests. For a complete explanation of how the list processor works, more detailed information on requests listed below, and examples of how to submit requests to the listprocessor, please read the Listprocessor User Manual.
The Listproc 7.1 User Manual and Owner Manual are available from the vendor via anonymous ftp at ftp.cren.net as postscript files. The names are listproc/ownerman.ps and listproc/userman.ps.
Everything appearing in [] below is optional; everything appearing in <> is mandatory; all arguments are case insensitive. The vertical bar ("|") is used as a logical OR operator between the arguments. Please note that the brackets or braces or parentheses themselves are NEVER a part of the request. In the syntax examples below, the word "list" must be replaced by the name of the list for which your request applies. In cases where a password is called for, the word "password" must be replaced by your list password or a password given you by the list owners. Requests may be abbreviated, but you must give at least as many characters as needed to distinguish the request from other requests or at least enter the first three characters.
Keep in mind that when referring to a <list>, that list may be of two kinds: local or remote, unless otherwise noted. Local lists are those which are run from the same host to which you are sending your e-mail request. Remote lists are those running on other hosts. When referring to a local list, your request will be immediately processed; when referring to a remote list (a list served by another ListProcessor on another machine which this system knows about), your request will be appropriately forwarded. Issue a 'LISTS' request to get a listing of all local and known remote lists to this ListProcessor.
Recognized requests are:
HELP [topic]
Without arguments a file giving a brief description of all requests. Otherwise get specific information on the selected topic. Topics may also refer to requests. To learn more about this system issue a 'HELP LISTPROC' request. To get a listing of all available topics, send a message saying 'HELP ALL'.
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LISTS [local|global [keywords]]
Get a list of all local mailing lists served by this server (LISTS LOCAL), or of all known local and remote lists (LISTS GLOBAL) and a one line description of each list. You MUST specify local or global in a LISTS request. Adding a keyword to the LISTS request causes the listprocessor to search only for those lists containing that keyword in its list name or one line description. If multiple keywords are specified, they are treated as a logically ANDed list of strings/regular expressions, that is, only names of lists containing ALL of the keywords will be returned. Keywords can be surrounded by quotes but that is not required. Only those lists' descriptions that match the keywords are listed.
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RELEASE VERSION
Get information about the current release of this ListProcessor system.
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INFORMATION [list]
This file if no list is specified, otherwise get information about the specified list.
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RECIPIENTS <list>
Get a list of all recipients (subscribers) of one list. The review request can also be used for this purpose.
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REVIEW <list> [short|description|subscribers]
Every list has associated with it a series of attributes which determine how the list operates and what privleges you have in sending requests to the listprocessor concerning the list. The review request allows you to get the list's attributes or settings. Review <list> will send you a short file of general information about the list and a listing of the current unconcealed subscribers for the specified list. "Review <list> short" or "review <list> description" will result in your receiving only the short description file, not the subscribers. "Review <list> subscribers" allows you to get only the non-concealed subscribers list. If a list is private, members only may issue this request. If the list is linked with any peer lists, your request will be forwarded to the appropriate server(s) also, except when the request is live, using ilp.
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RUN <list> [<password> <cmd [args]>]
In some cases a list owner or manager will set up an executable program or a script for subscribers to a particular list. The "Run" request will run the script or program on your behalf. The "Run" request may be sent with the optional arguments, if any are necessary. And you will receive the output from stdout and/or stderr. To get a listing of all available commands to run, omit the arguments, i.e. issue a 'run <list>' request. You have to belong to the specified list, and must have obtained the password from the list's owner; the owner's address may be found in the Errors-To: header line of each delivered message.
NOTE: DO NOT send a run request to the listprocessor unless the list manager or owner has specifically told you that you can do this.
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SET <list> [<option> <arg[s]>]
Each subscriber to a list has a series of five types of personal attributes or settings associated with the subscription to the list. These five settings determine how mail is sent to the subscriber by the list, what the subscriber's password is, what the e-mail address the list processor knows the user by, whether other subscribers can know if the person is subscribed to the list, and a set of personal preferences for the list. The "set" request sent without the optional arguments, sends back a list of all current settings for the specified list. Otherwise change the option to a new value for that list. Valid arguments are:
mail <ACK|NOACK|POSTPONE|DIGEST> ACK causes the list processor to send you a copy of all mail you send to a list. NOACK prevents the list processor from sending you copies of mail you send to a list. password <current-password> <new-password> change your list password. address <current-password> <new-address> change the e-mail address that you are registered with. conceal <YES|NO> If set to yes, your name will be omitted from the list of subscribers if someone requests such a list. preference [preferences]
Issue a 'help set' request for more information.
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QUERY <list>
Same as 'set <list>' with no arguments.
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STATISTICS <list> {[subscriber email-address(es)] | [-all]}
Get a listing of non-concealed subscribers along with the number of messages each one of them has sent to the specified list. If the optional email addresses are given, then statistics will be collected for these users only. For example: stat foo-list john@address1.domain mary@address2.domain will generate statistics about these two subscribers to a list called foo-list. "-all" compiles statistics for all users that have posted on the list (whether currently subscribed or not). If this request is submitted by the list owner it will return all subscribers; when submitted by anyone else it will return only non-concealed subscribers.
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SUBSCRIBE <list> <your name> JOIN <list> <your name>
The only way to subscribe to a list. Either subscribe or join may be used as the request.
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UNSUBSCRIBE <list> SIGNOFF <list>
Remove yourself from the specified list.
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PURGE <password>
Remove yourself from all local lists known to this host. You must use a valid password from one of the lists to which you are subscribed.
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WHICH
Get a listing of local mailing lists to which you have subscribed. There are no options with this request, it is sent as a single word.
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FAX <fax-number> <archive | path-to-archive> <file> [/password] [parts] Same as 'get', but it faxes you the files instead to the specified number. In some cases the host running the list processor will have access to a fax modem. This request allows you to obtain text files by having them faxed to you.
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GET <archive | path-to-archive> <file> [/password] [parts]
Get the requested file from the specified archive Files are usually split in parts locally, and in such a case you will receive the file in multiple email messages -- an 'index' request tells you how many parts the file has been split into, their sizes, and the path to the archive; if you need to obtain certain parts, specify them as optional arguments. If an archive is private, you have to provide its password as well.
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INDEX [archive | path-to-archive] [/password] [-all]
Get a list of files in the selected archive, or the master archive if no archive was specified. If an archive is private, you have to provide its password as well. The path to the archive is returned with the index.
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SEARCH <archive | path-to-archive>] [/password] [-all] <pattern>
Search all files of the specified archive (and all of its subarchives if -all is specified) for lines that match the pattern. The pattern can be an egrep(l)-style regular expression with support for the following additional operators: ' ' (negation), '|' and '&' (logical OR and AND), '<' '>' (group regular expressions). The pattern may be enclosed in single or double quotes. Note: . matches any character including new line. view <archive | path-to-archive>] [/password] [parts] Same as 'get' but in interactive mode justs catenates the file on the screen.
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listproc: Learn more about this system and list management software in general. live: Learn how to connect to this ListProcessor over the Internet with an interactive client for live processing of your requests.
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 96 18:50:27 CST From: Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Country Codes Message-ID: <9602200050.AA12875@hope.soils.wisc.edu>
<NIC.MERIT.EDU> /nsfnet/announced.networks/country.codes 7 Jan 1994 ISO 3166 (Version 3 with updates 1-58)
Note: The following country codes are defined by the International Standards Organization. They do not indicate whether or not a country is "on the Internet". For a list of countries that are configured to exchange traffic with NSFNET-connected networks, please get the file /nsfnet/statistics/nets.by.country.
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AE ARE 784 United Arab Emirates AO AGO 024 Angola (Republic of Angola) BF BFA 854 Burkina Faso (formerly Upper Volta) BH BHR 048 Bahrain (State of Bahrain) BI BDI 108 Burundi (Republic of Burundi) BJ BEN 204 Benin (Republic of Benin) BW BWA 072 Botswana (Republic of Botswana) CF CAF 140 Central African Republic CG COG 178 Congo (Republic of the Congo) CI CIV 384 Cote d'Ivoire (formerly Ivory Coast) CM CMR 120 Cameroon (Republic of Cameroon) CV CPV 132 Cape Verde (Republic of Cape Verde) DJ DJI 262 Djibouti (Republic of Djibouti) DZ DZA 012 Algeria (People's Democratic Republic of Algeria) EG EGY 818 Egypt (Arab Republic of Egypt) EH ESH 732 Western Sahara ER ERI 232 Eritrea ET ETH 231 Ethiopia GA GAB 266 Gabon (Gabonese Republic) GH GHA 288 Ghana (Republic of Ghana) GM GMB 270 Gambia (Republic of the Gambia) GN GIN 324 Guinea (Republic of Guinea) GQ GNQ 226 Equatorial Guinea (Republic of Equatorial Guinea) GW GNB 624 Guinea-Bissau (Republic of Guinea-Bissau) IL ISR 376 Israel (State of Israel) IQ IRQ 368 Iraq (Republic of Iraq) IR IRN 364 Iran, Islamic Republic of (Islamic Republic of Iran) JO JOR 400 Jordan (Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan) KE KEN 404 Kenya (Republic of Kenya) KM COM 174 Comoros (Islamic Federal Republic of the Comoros) KW KWT 414 Kuwait (State of Kuwait) LB LBN 422 Lebanon (Lebanese Republic) LR LBR 430 Liberia (Republic of Liberia) LS LSO 426 Lesotho (Kingdom of Lesotho) LY LBY 434 Libyan Arab Jamahiriya (Socialist Peoples's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya) MA MAR 504 Morocco (Kingdom of Morocco) MG MDG 450 Madagascar (Republic of Madagascar) ML MLI 466 Mali (Republic of Mali) MR MRT 478 Mauritania (Islamic Republic of Mauritania) MU MUS 480 Mauritius (Republic of Mauritius) MW MWI 454 Malawi (Republic of Malawi) MY MYS 458 Malaysia MZ MOZ 508 Mozambique (Republic of Mozambique) NA NAM 516 Namibia (Republic of Namibia) NE NER 562 Niger (Republic of the Niger) NG NGA 566 Nigeria (Federal Republic of Nigeria) OM OMN 512 Oman (Sultanate of Oman) QA QAT 634 Qatar (State of Qatar) RE REU 638 Reunion (Department of Reunion) RW RWA 646 Rwanda (Rwandese Republic) SA SAU 682 Saudi Arabia (Kingdom of Saudi Arabia) SC SYC 690 Seychelles (Republic of Seychelles) SD SDN 736 Sudan (Republic of the Sudan) SL SLE 694 Sierra Leone (Republic of Sierra Leone) SN SEN 686 Senegal (Republic of Senegal) SO SOM 706 Somalia (Somali Democratic Republic) ST STP 678 Sao Tome and Principe (Democratic Republic of Sao Tome and Principe) SY SYR 760 Syria Arab Republic SZ SWZ 748 Swaziland (Kingdom of Swaziland) TD TCD 148 Chad (Republic of Chad) TG TGO 768 Togo (Togolese Republic) TN TUN 788 Tunisia TZ TZA 834 Tanzania, United Republic of UG UGA 800 Uganda (Republic of Uganda) YE YEM 887 Yemen (Republic of Yemen) ZA ZAF 710 South Africa (Republic of South Africa) ZM ZMB 894 Zambia (Republic of Zambia) ZR ZAR 180 Zaire (Republic of Zaire) ZW ZWE 716 Zimbabwe (Republic of Zimbabwe)
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 96 19:11:25 CST From: Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Welcome to Dana Ott ... Message-ID: <9602200111.AA12914@hope.soils.wisc.edu>
Hi folks,
i'm writing (again) to inform you that we've added 2 new members today (Monday). we've just added Sang Mendy in Berea (KY), and Dana Ott (at USAID). matter of fact, i was going to put Sang's name in the subject line but i can't go back now, with the moody editor i've got. anyway, i believe Dana is the first non-Gambian on the list, and Sang is the first from Kentucky. welcome to Gambia-l, and please send us some intros when you have time.
bye now.
Katim
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 05:07:28 -0800 (PST) From: "Roddie L. Cole" <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Welcome to Omar courtesy of SAM ?? Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960220045944.19511B-100000@chabot.ced.berkeley.edu>
There's a senegalese prof at UC Irvine who may be interested in joining the group. It would be interesting to get his take on the Senegambia imbroglio especially as he's had some connection to the army and travelled to the Gambia on a number of occasions. He made one statement that rather astounded me. "The confederation failed because it was not in the interest of a group of Akus". Sammy please furnish necessary linkage so he can articulate his reasoning.
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 05:11:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Roddie L. Cole" <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960220050900.19511C-100000@chabot.ced.berkeley.edu>
This article on the UNCHS (Habitat) in Nairobi which is headed by Dr. Wally Ndow might be of interest.
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UNITED NATIONS: U.S. and U.N. Quarrel Over Housing Fund
by Thalif Deen
UNITED NATIONS, Feb 14 (IPS) - The United States and the United Nations are embroiled in a dispute over the funding of an upcoming U.N. conference on human settlements (Habitat II).
The United States has challenged the decision of the Nairobi- based Habitat secretariat to dip into a housing fund for 1.4 million dollars to pay for the conference's preparatory work.
''We do have serious questions about the financing and accountability of activities in the centre in Nairobi and will urge the U.N. Inspector General to audit and investigate those activities,'' said James Rubin, a spokesman for the U.S. Mission to the United Nations.
But Wally N'Dow of Gambia, Secretary-General of Habitat II, says his secretariat has done nothing irregular or devious.
''We did this very openly and very transparently,'' he said here Tuesday. ''All concerned knew about it, including the donors.''
The New York Times reported Sunday that several Western countries were demanding an investigation into the accounts of the Jun. 3-14 conference in Istanbul, Turkey.
Habitat II, which is being overseen by the Nairobi-based U.N. Centre for Human Settlements (UNCHS), is the last in a series of major U.N. conferences since the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro. The primary objective is to help resolve the world's housing problem.
The United Nations estimates that about half a billion people have no homes or adequate shelter. In the next 20 years, nine in 10 of the world's megacities are expected to contain more than 24 million people, and all except Japan will be in the developing world.
The Habitat secretariat has borrowed about 1.4 million dollars from a fund set up to aid housing projects in developing countries. ''So far we have paid back 500,000 dollars, and we are actively pursuing the rest,'' N'Dow said.
Mark Hildebrand, director of programmes at the Habitat office, told reporters the fund from which the money was borrowed was not earmarked to build houses for the poor. Rather, it financed the programme activities at the Habitat headquarters and technical assistance to improve settlements. The fund supports projects in 81 developing nations, Hildebrand said.
Responding to questions from reporters, U.N. spokeswoman Sylvana Foa said she did not know ''what all the fuss was about.''
''When the United Nations borrows over a billion dollars from peacekeeping operations -- not paying the money we owe to some very poor countries -- to keep our regular programmes going, no one says anything,'' she said.
''But when we borrow about a million dollars to give this conference a shot in the arm, there is all this fuss and much ado. I think that some people have different values here,'' Foa said.
When the General Assembly sanctioned the first U.N. conference on human settlements -- the 1976 Habitat I -- countries voted seven million dollars for the meeting. But when the Assembly called for Habitat II 20 years later, the body only voted for 1.7 million dollars.
N'Dow said that through ''our own efforts,'' the secretariat has been able to mobilise an additional 23 million dollars. As a result, about 95 percent of the resources needed for Habitat II is coming from external resources.
N'Dow also pointed out that ''it has been known from the beginning that in the absence of resources, no conference preparatory activities could take place.''
''Yet, with only two years to go -- half the normal preparatory time for such global conferences -- it was also clear we could not afford to wait the one year or so normally required for such resources to start coming in,'' he said.
N'Dow said that under these circumstances, he was forced to borrow some resources from the fund.
''What I cannot emphasise too strongly is that everything has been done in strict conformity with the applicable U.N. Financial Rules and Regulations,'' he said, adding that at no time did the programme of the U.N. Centre for Human Settlements suffer.
The U.N. spokeswoman said there was nothing irregular about borrowing because ''we have been doing this for years.''
''We need to get this conference on the road, that's for sure,'' Foa added. ''Those funds will be paid back.'' (END/IPS/TD/YJC/96)
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 14:35:51 GMT From: L Konteh <L.Konteh-95@student.lut.ac.uk> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: RE: Questions answered Message-ID: <9602211435.AA02668@hpl.lut.ac.uk>
Hello Group Members In answer to some of the questions raised, i will refer you to an interview a jounalist of SUD FM from Senegal had with Jammeh. Foroya carried the full text of the interview word for word. In it when asked where he got the money from for all these development projects. Answer: From God. Question, how did God give you money, did he handed it over to you or by some form of magic. Answer: Do you magic your life?, asked Jammeh. No!, replied the jounalist.; and so the interview continues... On the question of declaration of the $35 Million (Yes, $35 Million) from Taiwan, no, there was no declaration. The only time one knew of a special development account was when they fellout with Ebou Jallow.(their former spokesman). Can anyone tell me whether its right and proper for a ruling government to hold an account different from central government account which is administered by the Governor of central bank, Accountant General , Auditor General and a host of government officials. As a novice in accounting, can someone highlight me on that. Thanks. Lang
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:40:46 CST From: <JDG.L.LANGE.LWCLK@CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US> To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: THE boys ARE ROBBING US BLIND, THAT'S WHAT! Message-ID: <9602221540.AA21626@mx4.u.washington.edu>
LANG:
YOU WROTE THE FOLLOWING: In answer to some of the questions raised, i will refer you to an interview a jounalist of SUD FM from Senegal had with Jammeh. Foroya carried the full text of the interview word for word. In it when asked where he got the money from for all these development projects. Answer: From God. Question, how did God give you money, did he handed it over to you or by some form of magic. Answer: Do you magic your life?, asked Jammeh. No!, replied the jounalist.; and so the interview continues...
On the question of declaration of the $35 Million (Yes, $35 Million) from Accountant General , Auditor General and a host of government officials. As a novice in accounting, can someone highlight me on that. Thanks. Lang
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IN ANSWER TO YOU QUESTION POSED AT THE END OF YOUR MAIL, I AM NO ACCOUNTANT, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THESE boys ARE ROBBING US BLIND.
MORRO.
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 20:51:26 -0500 From: Gabriel Ndow <gndow@auc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Owners Manual Message-ID: <199602230151.UAA23021@auc.edu>
Greetings folks,
Katim and the rest of ya'll, I have a situation on my hands as one of the managers and would like further insight. A fellow by the name of Christopher Phillips of the U.S. ARMY is requesting to join our group. The request came in from listproc:
User christopher_r.phillips@mamc.chcs.amedd.army.mil has requested subscription to list GAMBIA-L. If you approve, send either of the following requests to listproc@u.washington.edu: ....
Well are we accepting Uncle Sam's people or not.
LatJor.
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:08:17 -0800 (PST) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Owners Manual Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91l.960222184802.13049B-100000@saul2.u.washington.edu>
Interesting dilemma ! Since we have been relatively quiet the last few days, maybe we can a start discussion on this issue. Personally, I favor an open liberal membership policy until someone proves unworthy of that trust before being expelled. Few weeks ago, we briefly embarked on criteria for membership but did not go far on it. I wonder whether this U.S. army guy has any connection or experience to The Gambia which he probabaly might, otherwise I cannot forsee what would have triggered his interest in Gambia-l. May we can ask him what interested him in joining Gambia-l or whatever. Others, please give your input in this matter so that Latjorr, our subscription manager for the Americas will act on it. Probably we should try and develop guidelines and criteria for membership so that the subscription managers will not be caught in this dilemma and will be promptly decisive in future requests. As time goes by, I believe that we will be getting increased requests for membership. Roddie, how about the Senegalese professor from UC Irvine whom you mentioned. Is he not going to request membership ? I am eager to hear his theory on the sabotage of the Senegambian confederation by the so called group of Akus. Katim, I was very busy this week. I promise that I will soon make the announcements on Senegal-l, Africa-l and Soc.culture.african on the existence of Gambia-l. Sang Mendy, our newest Gambian member, we are looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks Tony
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:39:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: msjaiteh@mtu.edu Subject: Re: Owners Manual Message-ID: <199602232239.RAA02310@forest2.ffr.mtu.edu>
Personally, I don't think it would hurt the List by admitting any interested person. While none of us would mean bad by focusing on the issue of who gets in (something of a genuine security concern), any restriction on membership composition may upset the goal of the group- that is to bring together Gambians and those interested in Gambian affairs.
Another thing is that access to information on the list or the subscribers can not be restricted by censoring the subscribers. The Highway is unfortunately no "save" place. Subscribers should only be aware of that.
On the positive side it is possible that ugly ducklings can grow up into beautiful swans.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 20:32:41 -0500 From: Gabriel Ndow <gndow@auc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: membership Message-ID: <199602240132.UAA27226@auc.edu>
About the concern I raised as to what our policy on accepting new subscribers was, I agree with Tony that we should resolve the matter quickly. My own view is that since we wish to make it an open forum to discuss matters relevant to Gambia (and Africa), it is going to be very difficult to develop any meaningful screening method. Perhaps the case at hand is the example we were awaiting. If this guy's address did not end with .army.mil, I probably would not have thought twice about accepting his application. What if he had a pc at home and wanted tosubscibe from that address? How would I have known who he was?
The reason I brought this up in the first place was not so much out of concern for letting someone in the US army (or any other army for that matter) join Gambia-l, rather to alert all subscribers of the reality that the group is indeed very very open! Intelligence gathering is a fact of life!
LatJor.
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 96 10:47:19 CST From: <JDG.L.LANGE.LWCLK@CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US> To: gambia-l@U.washington.edu Subject: membership Message-ID: <9602241646.AA11144@mx4.u.washington.edu>
Latjor:
So be it.
Morro
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 96 12:37:46 CST From: Katim S. Touray <touray@hope.soils.wisc.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Subscriptions ... Message-ID: <9602241837.AA17789@hope.soils.wisc.edu>
Hi folks,
i'm sorry for being so quite for a while now. as always, it's been kinda hectic.
i'm writing in response to questions about eligibility for membership of our list. ideally, we all want to have maximum screening of those who subscribe. in practice, this is easier said (and even easier to wish for) than done. foremost in the list of problems we face is the issue of getting the list to run just right. it seems it will be a while yet.
in the interim, i would suggest that our subscription managers just go ahead and add people to the list. i will be sending them info on how to go about doing this. hopefully, we will fine-tune this to our liking one of these good days.
well, i'll let you go on with your weekend.
bye, Katim
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 96 13:53:59 -0500 From: "Dana Ott" <dott@usaid.gov> To: <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: re: Subscriptions ... Message-ID: <vines.WBy7+Z1q9lb@BASA14037.usaid.gov>
Hello all:
Let me just take a brief minute to introduce myself. My name is Dana Ott, I work for the Africa Bureau Information Center as part of a larger contract to USAID. We're information providers mostly, with occasional research pieces. My interest in The Gambia stems from research I did there in 1993 - I lived in Kanifing for three months and interned at the African Centre for Democracy and Human Rights Studies on Kairaba Ave - my focus was on small countries and democratic development. I'm about to defend my PhD thesis (in about 3 weeks!) and now I work here in DC as a contractor to USAID. I'm always interested to talk about The Gambia, especially with everything that has been going on there lately, and I think there is much to talk about re; the upcoming (hopefully) transition in July.
I just want to say a word about the subscription issue - I think one of the best things about living in a free society is that you can express you're opinion - no matter what it is. I'm sure that we will disagree about various issues, but that is the beauty of it - that we can disagree and that there is no "correct" opinion. Yes it is a bit risky to be inclusive - but I think the potential benefits always outweigh the risks. I haven't seen any postings from this military person, but I'd like to take the opportunity to say welcome and let's talk about The Gambia!
So..enough said. Let me raise a provocative question for thought..
Jammeh et al have repeatedly said that the July22 movement is not a political party...what do you think - and what are the implications for opposition parties assuming the ban is lifted in March?
Back to work,
Dana Ott Phone: (703) 312-7192 Research Analyst Fax: (703) 312-7199 Africa Bureau Information Center Email: dott@usaid.gov
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:14:26 -0800 (PST) From: "Roddie L. Cole" <rcole@ced.berkeley.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Owners Manual Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960224110554.25815B-100000@chabot.ced.berkeley.edu>
I see no reason why we should not go for inclusivity until, as Tony argues, a body is proven unworthy. If, in a worse case scenario, this guy wants in only so that Uncle Sam can tap into the views and opinions of the cyber-connected Gambian community in the US, thats fine! I think our debate has been balanced, has levelled criticism at both the Jawara and Jammeh regimes, and has been all that a debate among mature citizenry can be. For my money, the more ears we can reach the better. Tony: our senegalese compatriot is on a trip to Philadephia I believe to address the Reverend Sullivan's church. I'll get in touch when he returns.
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:20:24 -0800 (PST) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: re: Subscriptions ... Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91l.960224155810.4753B-100000@saul2.u.washington.edu>
I want to take this opportunity and welcome Dana Ott to Gambia-l. I am extremely happy to have you on board and will be very interested in the perspectives of non Gambians who have lived in the Gambia. Concerning the issue, Dana raised about the July 22nd movement, all their actions point to the direction of a political party without admitting it. As I have pointed in the past, African politics are never played on a level playing field. Incumbents just do not loose elections. My instincts tell me that Jammeh will soon announce his candidacy and will be the declared winner a la Jerry Rawlings style. What are the ramifications for the opposition parties ? They do not stand a chance. After all who controls the election machinery ? Unless, Jammeh returns to civilian life and go into farming as he had once said, without any stake at the election will probabilities of fair elections transpire. Please do not interprete my statements here as an endorsement of the AFPRC but it is just rather the cold realities, I believe will happen. How about the remnants of the PPP regime, do you think that they should be allowed to make a come back and contest the elections under the same or a different party banner ? Thanks Tony
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