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Screensize: 640 x 480 800 x 600 1024 x 768 1280 x 1024 UserName: Password: Format Mode: Basic  Help  Prompt  Format: Videos: Font Andale Mono Arial Arial Black Book Antiqua Century Gothic Comic Sans MS Courier New Georgia Impact Lucida Console Script MT Bold Stencil Tahoma Times New Roman Trebuchet MS Verdana   Size 1 2 3 4 5 6   Color Black Red Yellow Pink Green Orange Purple Blue Beige Brown Teal Navy Maroon LimeGreen Message: * HTML is OFF * Forum Code is ON Smilies [quote][i]Originally posted by Momodou[/i] [br]GAMBIA-L Digest 54 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Senegal plane crash kills 20, mostly tourists (fwd) by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 2) Fwd: UNITED STATES: Domestic Violence Gr by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 3) RE: 'Portrait of an imagined session' by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Asbj=F8rn_Nordam?= <asbjorn.nordam@dif.dk> 4) Senegal-Crash by "Matarr M. Jeng." <mmjeng@image.dk> 5) Re: Greetings..... by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 6) NKOYO,SCEPTICISM IS GOOD!! by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 7) Re: Taiwan's trade with the Gambia by "PA-MAMBUNA O. BOJANG" <paomar@iglou.com> 8) attaching files by ABALM@aol.com 9) Re: attaching files by KTouray@aol.com 10) New Member by sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) 11) Postal service, practical advise by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Asbj=F8rn_Nordam?= <asbjorn.nordam@dif.dk> 12) Re: New Member by Olafiaklinikken Olafia <olafia@online.no> 13) Re: New Member-Intro by Bukary@aol.com 14) just a tip by Ceesay Soffie <Ceesay_Soffie@ems.prc.com> 15) RE: GAMBIA'S HEALTH SITUATION by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 16) "What a Shocker" by Debbie Proctor <proctord@u.washington.edu> 17) Re: Taiwan's trade with the Gambia by Francis Njie <francis_njie@il.us.swissbank.com> 18) Re: Gambia and the UN. by Francis Njie <francis_njie@il.us.swissbank.com> 19) NKOYO,SCEPTICISM IS GOOD!! by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 20) RE: 'Portrait of an imagined session' by alfall@papl.com 21) Re: NKOYO,SCEPTICISM IS GOOD!! by "Inqs." <nfaal@is2.dal.ca> 22) TWO WRONGS = RIGHT by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 23) Compensation by Debbie Proctor <proctord@u.washington.edu> 24) NKOYO, OLIVE BRANCH!! by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 25) New Member by "Jarju Malafy" <mafy@avana.net> 26) Forwarding ! by ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> 27) Domestic Violence by Ndey Drammeh <NDRAMME@wpo.it.luc.edu> 28) Re: Taiwan's trade with the Gambia by "Latir Downes-Thomas" <latir@earthlink.net> 29) Re: New Member by "PA-MAMBUNA O. BOJANG" <paomar@iglou.com> 30) Re: Gambia and the UN. by Pamodou@aol.com 31) UNCONDITIONAL AMNESTY TO ALL POLITICA & SECURITY DETAINEES by TSaidy1050@aol.com 32) right to vote in USA by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Asbj=F8rn_Nordam?= <asbjorn.nordam@dif.dk> 33) Re: Gambia and the UN. by Olafiaklinikken Olafia <olafia@online.no> 34) RE: Domestic Violence by alfall@papl.com 35) N'Koyo's E-mail by alfall@papl.com 36) Human Rights by "Peter K.A. da Costa" <ipspdc@harare.iafrica.com> 37) New member by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 38) Re: UNCONDITIONAL AMNESTY TO ALL POLITICA & SECURITY DETAINEES by Abdou Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 39) Re: UNCONDITIONAL AMNESTY TO ALL POLITICA & SECURITY DETAINEES by TSaidy1050@aol.com 40) Re: N'Koyo's E-mail by "Inqs." <nfaal@is2.dal.ca> 41) RE: Domestic Violence by "Famara A. Sanyang" <famaraas@amadeus.cmi.no> 42) Re: Domestic Violence by Isatou Secka <isatou@Glue.umd.edu> 43) New member by Raye Sosseh <gt8065b@prism.gatech.edu> 44) New member by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 45) Re: Human Rights by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 46) Re: Human Rights by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 47) Re: right to vote in USA by Debbie Proctor <proctord@u.washington.edu> 48) Re: UNCONDITIONAL AMNESTY TO ALL POLITICA & SECURITY DETAINEES by "Latir Downes-Thomas" <latir@earthlink.net> 49) Re: Domestic Violence by "Latir Downes-Thomas" <latir@earthlink.net> 50) An Unsolved Archeological Mystery from the Dark Ages: (fwd) by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 51) Women in trousers banned by Nigerian officials (fwd) by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 52) AFRICAN WRITERS CONFERENCE!!!!! by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 53) Re: Women in trousers banned by Nigerian officials (fwd) by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 54) CONTEXT, PLEASE!! by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 55) Baaba Maal by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 56) Re: CONTEXT, PLEASE!! by "Latir Downes-Thomas" <latir@earthlink.net> 57) Fw: second request by "Jarju Malafy" <mafy@avana.net> 58) Re: CONTEXT, PLEASE!! by binta@iuj.ac.jp 59) Re: Apology by binta@iuj.ac.jp 60) Clinton's UNION Address by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 61) Clinton's UNION Address by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 62) Re: Domestic Violence by Abdou Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 63) Re: Apology by Abdou Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 64) RE: right to vote in USA by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Asbj=F8rn_Nordam?= <asbjorn.nordam@dif.dk> 65) new constitution by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Asbj=F8rn_Nordam?= <asbjorn.nordam@dif.dk> 66) Re: Clinton's UNION Address by Abdou Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 67) RE: Clinton's UNION Address by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Asbj=F8rn_Nordam?= <asbjorn.nordam@dif.dk> 68) DOMESTIC VIOLENCE by Olafiaklinikken Olafia <olafia@online.no> 69) Re: new constitution by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 70) Re: Clinton's UNION Address by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 71) Fwd: HUMAN RIGHTS: Britain Slammed for P by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 72) WHATS NEXT??? by AJagne@aol.com 73) Re: CONTEXT, PLEASE!! -Reply by Ndey Drammeh <NDRAMME@wpo.it.luc.edu> 74) Re: Clinton's UNION Address by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 75) Politics In Africa by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 76) Re: ABDOU'S POSTING by JAWARAMB@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu 77) Re: Apology by TSaidy1050@aol.com 78) Re: Redress for the victims. by KTouray@aol.com 79) Re: Redress for the victims. by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 80) Re: Domestic Violence -Reply by Ndey Drammeh <NDRAMME@wpo.it.luc.edu> 81) New members by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 82) Re: new constitution by "Jarju Malafy" <mafy@avana.net> 83) Re: Clinton's UNION Address by Abdou Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 84) Re: ABDOU'S POSTING by Abdou Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 85) Re: Apology by Abdou Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 86) Re: New members by MJagana@aol.com 87) HEALTH CARE by Olafiaklinikken Olafia <olafia@online.no> 88) Temporarily Unsubscribing by "Peter K.A. da Costa" <ipspdc@harare.iafrica.com> 89) New members by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 90) Re: CONTRIBUTIONS by Isatou Secka <isatou@Glue.umd.edu> 91) Re: Women in trousers banned by Nigerian officials (fwd) by "Inqs." <nfaal@is2.dal.ca> 92) Re: Women in trousers banned by Nigerian officials (fwd) by "Inqs." <nfaal@is2.dal.ca> 93) Re: ABDOU'S POSTING (fwd) by ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> 94) Re: ABDOU'S POSTING (fwd) by ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> 95) RE: New member (fwd) by ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> 96) [FWD] Internet Surcharge (fwd) by "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> 97) Re: Redress for the victims. by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 98) Re: HEALTH CARE by Mbk007@aol.com 99) HEALTH CARE -Reply by Yaikah Jeng <YJENG@PHNET.SPH.JHU.EDU> 100) Re: Apology by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 101) INVITATION!! by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 102) Re: Redress for the victims. by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 103) Re: Apology by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 104) Re: Redress for the victims. by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 105) Re: HEALTH CARE -Reply by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 106) Re: Redress for the victims. by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 107) New member by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 108) Fwd: U.N.-POPULATION: Migration, Violence against Women by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 109) Introduction by Salifuj@aol.com 110) Re: HEALTH CARE -Reply by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 111) Daily Observer2(gambia) by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 112) Tombong Saidy's Departure by "Latir Downes-Thomas" <latir@earthlink.net> 113) Gambia: Human Rights part1 by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 114) Re: Introduction by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 115) Human Rights Postings by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 116) Re: Human Rights Postings by Greg Fegan <gfegan@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu> 117) Healthcare by Isatou Bojang <isatoub@student.umass.edu> 118) Re: Healthcare by Greg Fegan <gfegan@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu> 119) Re: New member (fwd) by ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> 120) Re: Gambia: Human Rights part1 by Haddijatou Kah <jkah@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> 121) Re: Human Rights Postings by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 122) Error messages by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 123) RE: new constitution by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Asbj=F8rn_Nordam?= <asbjorn.nordam@dif.dk> 124) Re: Gambia: Human Rights part1 by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 125) Re: Human Rights Postings by Abdou Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 126) Re: Healthcare by "Heidi Skramstad" <heidis@amadeus.cmi.no> 127) Re: INVITATION!! by Abdou Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 128) Re: HEALTH CARE -Reply -Reply by Yaikah Jeng <YJENG@PHNET.SPH.JHU.EDU> 129) HEALTHCARE II from Omar S. Saho by Olafiaklinikken Olafia <olafia@online.no> 130) Re: Healthcare By omar S. Saho by Olafiaklinikken Olafia <olafia@online.no> 131) Re: right to vote in USA by Abdou Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 132) INVITATION by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 133) Re: HEALTHCARE II from Omar S. Saho by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 134) Re: HEALTH CARE -Reply -Reply by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 135) test by Salifuj@aol.com 136) Re: HEALTHCARE II from Omar S. Saho -Reply by Yaikah Jeng <YJENG@PHNET.SPH.JHU.EDU> 137) FWD: Position Available:Forestry Computer Programmer by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 138) Re: HEALTH CARE -Reply -Reply -Reply by Yaikah Jeng <YJENG@PHNET.SPH.JHU.EDU> 139) Re: Human Rights Postings by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 140) Re: INVITATION by Abdou Gibba <Abdou.Gibba@smr.uib.no> 141) Re: Human Rights Postings by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 142) Gambia: Human Rights part2 by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 143) Re: HEALTH CARE -Reply by "Famara A. Sanyang" <famaraas@amadeus.cmi.no> 144) Gambia: Human Rights part3 by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 145) Gambia: Human Rights part4 by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 146) Gambia: Human Rights part5 by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 147) Gambia: Human Rights part6 of 6 by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 148) Re: Redress for the victims. by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 149) Re: Healthcare by Greg Fegan <gfegan@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu> 150) Re: HEALTH CARE -Reply by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 151) Re: Human Rights Postings by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 152) RE: HEALTH CARE OMAR S. SAHO by Olafiaklinikken Olafia <olafia@online.no> 153) Re: INVITATION by BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> 154) Re: HEALTH CARE -Reply by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 155) New Memeber by "Fatou N'Jie" <gs01fnn@panther.Gsu.EDU> 156) Reply to OMAR S. SAHO re: Health Care research by Greg Fegan <gfegan@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu> 157) Re: Human Rights Postings by "Latir Downes-Thomas" <latir@earthlink.net> 158) Re: HEALTH CARE -Reply by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 159) Re: Human Rights Postings by "M'BAI OF" <O.F.M'Bai@icsl.ac.uk> 160) New member by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 161) Holiday by "Fatou N'Jie" <gs01fnn@panther.Gsu.EDU> 162) Re: HEALTH CARE -Reply by "Famara A. Sanyang" <famaraas@amadeus.cmi.no> 163) EID MUBARAK TO ALL!!! by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 164) US Immigration laws update (fwd) by "N'Deye Marie Njie" <njie.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> 165) by MKCORRA@VM.SC.EDU 166) Re: EID MUBARAK TO ALL!!! by Alieu Jawara <umjawara@cc.UManitoba.CA> 167) greetings by gndow@spelman.edu (Gabriel Ndow) 168) Re: EID MUBARAK TO ALL!!! by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 169) Hanging Out with a Murderer by TOURAY1@aol.com 170) Re: EID MUBARAK TO ALL!!! by ABALM@aol.com 171) Re: greetings by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 172) Re: EID MUBARAK TO ALL!!! by "PA-MAMBUNA O. BOJANG" <paomar@iglou.com> 173) Re: HEALTH CARE -Reply by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 174) Re: Diversity Visa Lottery by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 175) RE: Omar Mbai by TOURAY1@aol.com 176) RE: Introduction by "BIG UP!!.... WITH RESPECT, MON" <ABARROW@rr5.rr.intel.com> 177) Member list by momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) 178) EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION by "BIG UP!!.... WITH RESPECT, MON" <ABARROW@rr5.rr.intel.com> 179) Re: EID MUBARAK TO ALL!!! by Mbk007@aol.com 180) Re: Introduction by ABALM@aol.com 181) Re: Hanging Out with a Murderer by mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) 182) Re: EID MUBARAK TO ALL!!! by "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <msjaiteh@mtu.edu> 183) Re: Diversity Visa Lottery by Mostafa Jersey Marong <mbmarong@students.wisc.edu> 184) postcards by mbk007@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 02:02:31 -0800 (PST) From: "A. Loum" <tloum@u.washington.edu> To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Senegal plane crash kills 20, mostly tourists (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970202020218.12082A-100000@saul7.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:11:56 PST From: Reuter / Diadie Ba <C-reuters@clari.net> Newsgroups: clari.world.africa.western, clari.news.trouble.accidents, clari.biz.industry.aviation Subject: Senegal plane crash kills 20, mostly tourists DAKAR, Senegal (Reuter) - A plane crashed in Senegal Saturday killing 20 people, mostly French tourists, and state television said the son of the president of neighboring Guinea Bissau was among the dead. A further 32 people were injured, it added. The head of Air Senegal, which operated the tourist charter to a game park near the town of Tambacouda in the center of the West African nation, told the main evening news program that 17 of the dead were French nationals. Two Senegalese crew members and Vladimir Vieira, son of President Joao Bernardo Vieira, who was attached to Air Senegal, also died, the television said. State radio said earlier that the plane crashed on takeoff from Tambacouda, after setting off for the former French colony's capital Dakar, 280 miles away. ``After taking off the aircraft crashed on the tarmac and burst into flames,'' a witness told Dakar Radio. The witness said the injured were thrown clear when the plane hit the runway. Tambacouda is the airport for the Nioko Lo-Koba Game Park, which is on the way to the border with Guinea. The park has a wide range of animals including lions. Senegal is a favorite vacation destination for tourists from France and Germany -- particularly its separatist southern province of Casamance. African-Americans on tours in search of their roots are also frequent visitors. Two French couples disappeared while vacationing in Casamance in 1995. Despite extensive searches in and around the combat zone where troops and separatist rebels occasionally clash neither the tourists nor their bodies have been found. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 11:20:43 +0000 From: momodou.camara@post3.tele.dk (Camara, Momodou) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Fwd: UNITED STATES: Domestic Violence Gr Message-ID: <19970202102217.AAA26836@LOCALNAME> Copyright 1996 InterPress Service, all rights reserved. Worldwide distribution via the APC networks. *** 24-Jan-97 *** Title: UNITED STATES: Domestic Violence Grows As Workplace Issue by Haider Rizvi WASHINGTON, Jan 24 (IPS) - Labour researchers here say that domestic violence is hurting women on the job. Nearly one million women are abused, harassed, and beaten by their husbands, ex-husbands, boyfriends and ex-boyfriends every year, these researchers say, noting that despite tough laws, gender violence remains one of the most frequent, but least reported, crimes in the United States. ''It's an epidemic which is profoundly affecting our communities and workplaces,'' Ida Castro, director of the Women's Division of the U.S. Department of Labour, says in a report. ''It is no longer a private, family dispute that affects only those directly involved,'' contends Castro, who shares women's advocacy groups' concern that growing incidents of domestic violence are increasingly affecting women's positions in the job market. ''Violence against women is directly interfering with their ability to get, perform, or keep a job,'' she says. The new report, 'Domestic violence: A Workplace Issue', highlights the plight of working women who face domestic violence. It is the first documented recognition of the phenomenon of such violence as a workplace issue. Labour researchers note that about 96 percent of working women who fail to perform their jobs suffer from domestic abuse or violence, adding that sometimes women workers even end up losing their jobs because their male abusers force them to stay homes. Women advocacy groups say instead of firing victims of domestic violence, employers should take steps to help their workers. Although 49 percent of corporate leaders acknowledge that domestic violence has a harmful effect on their companies' productivity and health-care costs, only 12 percent of them understand that they need to take a major role in addressing the issue, say labour officials who cite a survey of Fortune 1,000 U.S. companies conducted in 1994. Women's groups are calling for corporate executives to sponsor programmes designed to create public awareness about domestic violence and to build new shelters for women workers who experience violence at home or in offices. They are also calling on employers to pay time off for family emergencies. ''In this country, we have 4,000 animal shelters but only 1,500 shelters for battered women,'' says an activist of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, an umbrella group comprising a number women organisations. ''Isn't it sad?'' Labour researchers say that although at workplaces, many women are killed as a result of robbery or other crimes, it is alarming to note that at least one-fifth of them are attacked by their former or current husbands or boyfriends. According to a 1996 Labour Department statistical report, almost half the women workers killed belonged to socially and economically marginalised communities. According to the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI), a woman is beaten every 15 seconds by her partner and it happens at some time in 25-35 percent of U.S. homes. The FBI says 4, 000 women die from such abuse every year. Researchers say that women continue to be more vulnerable than their male colleagues at work to attacks by people with whom they have been intimate. According to a survey conducted by the U.S. Department of Justice in 1994, compared to men, women experience over 10 times as many incidents of domestic violence. Under increasing pressure from human rights groups, the Bill Clinton administration passed a new law to curb domestic violence in 1995. The law, known as the 'Violence Against Women Act', empowers legal authorities to take strict actions against offenders, but women's rights advocates say its implementation is still far from effective. ''It's true that they (the government) have taken some positive steps, but not to the level they should be,'' says Linda Posouszny of the Centre for Women's Global Leadership, a non-profit international women's rights advocacy group. ''They just make promises, but ours is a constant struggle. We will keep it going until we see a complete elimination of violence against women.'' The most regrettable aspect of the workplace violence is the role of the police, says Posouszny. Citing a U.S. Department of Justice study, she says that throughout the United States, the police are ''more likely to respond within five minutes if an offender is a stranger than if an offender is known to the female victim.'' (END/IPS/HR/YJC/97)) Origin: Washington/UNITED STATES/ ---- [c] 1996, InterPress Third World News Agency (IPS) All rights reserved ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:46:49 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Asbj=F8rn_Nordam?= <asbjorn.nordam@dif.dk> To: "'gambia-l@u.washington.edu'" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: RE: 'Portrait of an imagined session' Message-ID: <c=DK%a=_%p=DIF%l=DKDIFS02-970202144649Z-8@dkdifs02.dif.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mr. K. Touray, I=B4m often told that we danes has the same kind of = humour than you gambians. Maybe that=B4s why I like and fully understand the "message", but it=B4s given in a form that call for a smile, and I love that form. Asbj=F8rn >---------- >From: KTouray@aol.com[SMTP:KTouray@aol.com] >Sent: 1. February 1997 22.11 >To: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List >Subject: 'Portrait of an imagined session' > >Here is an account of a thought that occured to me recently. Of course = none >of the events i recount actually happened but i figured the graceful = members >of this wonderful list would allow me to take them on journey that is = part >fantasy and part reality most of us yearn. It begins with the President >welcoming members of his inner circle at a recent strategy session: > >' Gentlemen good evening and thank you for coming on such short notice. = > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 18:13:18 +-100 From: "Matarr M. Jeng." <mmjeng@image.dk> To: "'The Gambia And Related Issues Mailing List'" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Senegal-Crash Message-ID: <01BC1134.D81297C0@globip50.image.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BC1134.D81A38E0" ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC1134.D81A38E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <Picture: Panafrican News Agency> News Stories | Environment | Economics | Science and Health | Sports | = Africa Press Review=20 Copyright 1996 Panafrican News Agency and Africa News Service. All = rights reserved.=20 Material may not be redistributed, posted to any other location, = published or used for broadcast without written authorization from the = Panafrican News Agency. B.P. 4056, Dakar, Senegal.=20 Tel: (221) 24-13-95 | Fax: (221) 24-13-90 | E-mail: = quoiset@sonatel.senet.net=20 02 Feb 97 - Senegal-Crash Plane Crash Kills 23 In Eastern Senegal DAKAR, Senegal (PANA) - Senegalese authorities have confirmed that 23 = people, including the son of Guinea-Bissau's President, were killed in a = plane crash that occured on Saturday at Tambacounda in the country's = east.=20 Reporting the death toll Sunday, the Senegalese News Agency said that 29 = other passengers, most of them French tourists, sustained injuries when = plane crashed shortly after take off from Tambacounda airport, 467 km = east of Dakar, the capital.=20 The plane, owned by Senegal Air company, crashed at around 2.30 GMT on = Saturday, a few seconds after take-off, the news agency reported, = quoting official sources in Dakar.=20 It said those killed were French tourists who had been on a hunting = party in the game-rich Tambacounda region, as well as the plane's three = member-crew -- two Senegalese and the son of President Joao Bernardo = Nino Vieira.=20 Those who suffered injuries were taken to Tambaounda regional hospital = for preliminary medical care. Those with severe burns were later in the = night transferred to Dakar aboard Senegalese and French military = aircraft. They have been admitted in several hospitals in the Senegalese = capital.=20 The Senegalese government has set up a commission of enquiry to = determine the causes of the crash.=20 According to some survivers, one of the plane's engines stopped = suddenly, tilting the plane on one side, before crashing at the end of = the runway. The plane broke into two and immediately caught fire.=20 Most of those who survivers were at the rear of the plane and escaped = through the shattered cabin.=20 Another plane crashed near Mbour, 83 km from Dakar in May 1995, killing = two people.=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AFRICA NEWS Home Page | AFRICA NEWS CENTRAL | The Nando Times=20 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 11:56:34 +0300 From: BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Greetings..... Message-ID: <3111D1C2.44D7@QATAR.NET.QA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PA-MAMBUNA O. BOJANG wrote: >=20 > Beloved brothers and sisters: >=20 > It feels great once again to be able to read interesting > articles from Gambia-l. I don't have much to say, but I would like to > plea to some folks to cool down a bit. The purpose of the list is to > discuss ideas. If one of my ideas/suggestions don't comply with Jonh's, > it does not mean that I should "always" condemn John's. There will be > times when John has a very sound idea, so regardless of whether John > surported or criticized my previous posting, I should not judge John > based on his position about what I said before. This might just be my > personal understanding of some responses I've been reading, so do > forgive me if I happen to misunderstand. May be I 've been out too long > ...oops. > However, I do believe and know one thing, we are all working fo= r > a common goal - to make Africa and for that matter Gambia a better plac= e > to live. I therefore pray to Allah, the omnipotent, to make our > aspirations come true. Tombong, please calm down. You are at the > forefront of our nation, so you should be able to accept blows without > retaliating. You are doing a terrific job for providng current info. > keep it up. Dr. King said, "AN EYE FOR EYE LEAVES EVERYONE BLIND",so > allow us to criticize and doubt your gov't., we might just be your > reality checks. >=20 > Happy Ramadan to you all, > PA-MAMBUNA O. BOJANG. Mr.Bojang!! Good points there!! Keep up the good work down there!! Regards Basss!! --=20 SZDD=88=F0'3Af=A8=03 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 22:02:36 +0300 From: BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> To: GAMBIA-L@U.WASHINGTON.EDU Subject: NKOYO,SCEPTICISM IS GOOD!! Message-ID: <31125FCC.4E8E@QATAR.NET.QA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - Nkoyo! First of all,its a rule here(rule no.4),if I can recall correctly,that if you write a piece,you should sign it.Secondly,it helps me personally,because if you are someone like Anna Secka,who has written quite a number of times on this list,I can just go back to my archive and brouse very quickly almost everything she has said from the very first day that I joined the list.That way,my response to that person would be fair and appropriate to both the person I am responding to,and to myself.so,while declaring outhorship for the piece you authored is not as little a 'detail' as you claimed,being swayed or not being swayed belongs to an entirely different category,namely how strong your arguments are,and how factually they are related to the present and past Gambian realities.So,yes,you are right in saying that every piece written on this list belongs to everybody else,but,equally,its the right=20 of each person on this list to know the person he or she is talking to.The fact that you are perennially plagued by the "old habbit" of sending letters to people everywhere without telling them who you are,and the fact you cannot comprehend how writing your name at the end of the articles you write can be connected to the issues being discussed,cannot and should not be a justifiable excuse here on the mother of all free media.Simply put,this medium here is one of NEW HABITS and not Old ONES. Now,turning to what you had to say in response to my piece,I have no problems whatsoever with someone SCEPTICAL.If anyone on this planet should and must be sceptical about politics,it is the Gambian.It is one thing to be Cheated for three decades,but to be cheated that long and be conditioned to love being cheated and to believe that you and the place you are in are the finest things on this planet;now,that is a tough one! It reminds me only of what the French Master,CAMUS taught the world a long time ago that when oppression persists for a very long time,there is this frightening risk of a LOVE BOND developing between the oppressor and his victim.So,now that that era of nighmarish slumber is over and the shroud that used to prevent us from thinking straight and properly under the Jawara Era removed,thanks to the Jammeh revloution,I am not at all surprised at the almost explosive nature of the resentment directed against whoever holds power in the Gambia,not only that,there is a part of me that shows a sympathetic understanding for such emotions given the magnitude of rot and gloom that prevailed under the former regime. But having said that,I must hasten to separate those who,after an involuntary=20 reaction to a nightmarish experience,get back their sanity soon enough to realise that when you pour water halfway through the glass,it is equally valid to describe it as half full or half empty from those people who are somewhat pathologically inclined to deny the possibility of any positive interpretation of the phenomenon. One of the things that George Orwell has taught us about Revolutions is that NO TWO REVOLUTIONS are alike either in their success or failure,and that some Revolutions achieve more of their ideal aims than others,and that it is the moral responsiblity of every well-informed,sane adult to judge between them and support those in which there is a PREPONDERANCE OF GOOD.So,there you are! If you very sincerely and honestly believe that Gambia is really worse off than it used to be under the old regime,then there is nothing anybody could do or say on this list that would be of any help to=20 you.But if you are just genuinely concerned,as many Gambians are,then I cannot have any problem whatsoever with your SCEPTICISM.But being a SCEPTIC is one thing and being a DOUBTING THOMAS is something else altogether .Because scepticism comes from=20 the Greek Word SKEPTIKOS, which means an open minded person who always wants to CONSIDER All The Evidence,as for the Doubting Thomas, he/she is a person obsessed with only those pieces of evidence that reinforces his/her own fears and prejudices.In other words,that type of person is capable of seeing only the individual trees,and can neither comprehend nor appreciate the beauty of the forest in its entirety. So,NKOYO,as you can see,you really have a choice here.You can either choose to be a real SCEPTIC,which is very important for all Democracies,particularly our fledgeling one.Or you can choose to be a DOUBTING THOMAS.And if you choose to be the former,you would then be best advised to Read K.TOURAY'S 'Portrait Of Imagined Session' in which he calmly and almost ruthlessly looked at BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT.But if you choose to be the latter,then your choice for reading would be much closer home,namely the RAVING and RANTING Paragraphs you sent me as a reponse,which,by the way,I could not have recognized as directed to me had it not been for my family name written at the initial line - paragraphs filled with only screaming and shouting,wild allegations,irresponsible reductionisms and frightening generalisations.And these behavoral patterns,if I recall correctly,are exactly the kinds of behaviour that my philosopy Professor once told me should not be a character trait of a REAL SCEPTIC.Because SCEPTICISM is basically the science of truth.And nothing can be further from the truth than the NEGATIVISTIC PICTURE you painted of the Gambian Revolution,all of which boils down to some people's propensity to be economical with the TRUTH.So, perhaps reading what the new Gambian subcriber,OMAR F.MBAI had to say about the science of the truth would have some soothing effect on our minds next time we want to assess the situation back home:- " Secondly, about the perpetual problems in our beloved Country the Gambia, I personally believe and I'm sure you'll acquisce with me that we fellow Gambians don't know the importance of one very significant WORD------------ THE TRUTH!!!!!! This is what I have to say about the TRUTH. GOOD IN CONFORMITY WITH TRUTH IS JUSTICE JUSTICE IS THE PRACTICE OF REASON REASON IS THE WORD OF REALITY REALITY IS THE SCIENCE OF TRUTH TRUTH IS THE IDENTITY OF IDEA AND BEING. > =20 > =20 > Regards Basss!! = = =20 --=20 SZDD=88=F0'3Af=A8=03 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 14:20:09 -0500 From: "PA-MAMBUNA O. BOJANG" <paomar@iglou.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Taiwan's trade with the Gambia Message-ID: <32F4E8E9.322E@iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well said Latir. This is what I was talking about in my last posting. People need not to attack one another personally. GOD BLESS! Latir Downes-Thomas wrote: > > Abdou, > > Come on now! This is a bit too personal for this forum. > > Mr. Saidy, > > Here we indeed go again. If you remember, you had the same > > sanctimonious and uncouth response when you were kicked out of the US by > > the American government > > If you have something to say to Mr. Saidy, or anyone for that matter, just let them know directly or keep it to yourself. The last thing we need here is a bar > > Just take it easy ma man.;-) > > Peace. > > Lat > > P.S. I hope this isn't the beginning of all out personal attacks list-wide! I urge others to show restraint and keep the discussion healthy. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:01:18 -0500 (EST) From: ABALM@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: attaching files Message-ID: <970202165319_1512628843@emout05.mail.aol.com> Hello Mr. Bassssssss ! I dont know if you realize that some people do not have fast computers, modems or a lot of memory. So when you reply and attach previous files to just make a little comment on the end, it takes so long to load the file , just to read what already has been shown sometimes as much as 5 times. Maybe you could just refer to the subject instead of attaching the files. your consideration will be appreciated. thanks ABBA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:40:57 -0500 (EST) From: KTouray@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: attaching files Message-ID: <970202173421_1927778853@emout08.mail.aol.com> Tony , Mr Cherno gaye would like to be subscribed to the list...his address is Bukary@aol.com I appreciate your efforts. Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 21:03:27 -0800 From: sarian@osmosys.incog.com (Sarian Loum) To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: New Member Message-ID: <199702030503.VAA00979@thesky.incog.com> Hi Cherno Gaye has been added to the list. Welcome Cherno, and please send in your intro to the list. Sarian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:39:08 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Asbj=F8rn_Nordam?= <asbjorn.nordam@dif.dk> To: "'gambia'" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Postal service, practical advise Message-ID: <c=DK%a=_%p=DIF%l=DKDIFS02-970203093908Z-41@dkdifs02.dif.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Friends, can anyone of you maybe explain to me, why it=B4s only possible to send parcels up to 10 kilogrammes to the Gambia. 4-6 times a year I parcel different things to my friends in the Gambia, and up till december I had never heard of the above mentionned limit, so I posted a parcel weight 28 Kilo. It came back saying that only 10 Kilos was alloved. That costs me a lot of money because now it became 3 parcels instead of one, and there is a ground-price for a parcel DKr. 80, and then 16 DKr. pr. Kilo. Instead of 80 + 28 x 16 =3D DKr. 528,- it cost me = 3 x 80 + 30 x 16 =3D DKr. 720. And sometimes I even have to send money ahead, because of taxation, when my parcel arrives, and my gambian friends has no money to pay the tax. The things is mainly books og materials for their studies, because there is no books avaible in The Gambia (which I have to buy from London, f.ex. latest something from City and Guilds of London Institutes). And sometimes it is footballs, shirts and shorts for some villages and schools, which I "sponsor" that way. If any of you has a better way or can give me some ideas or advices how to do this, I will be very thankfull. Asbj=F8rn Nordam ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:04:13 +0100 (MET) From: Olafiaklinikken Olafia <olafia@online.no> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: New Member Message-ID: <199702031104.MAA07715@online.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sarian I am enquiring about if you are the very Sarian Loum Of 1 Brown Street. Aunty Maggie is a Grand Mother tome. And your broteher J. C. Loum is my close and intimate friend. If you are the very Sarian vcan you please forward mey E. Mail and address to JC Work Address: HOME ADDRESS OMAR S. SAHO, CONSULTANT OMAR S. SAHO ULLEVAAL UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL SVERDRUPSGT. 24B DEPARTMENT FOR STD & HIV N-0559 OSLO POSTUTTAK GRONLAND PK NORWAY N-0133 OSLO TEL: + 47 22 71 94 84 NORWAY TEL: + 47 22 08 29 50 TEL: + 47 22 08 29 64 DIRECT LINE FAX: + 47 22 08 29 90 At 21:03 02.02.97 -0800, you wrote: >Hi > >Cherno Gaye has been added to the list. Welcome Cherno, and please send in your intro to the list. > >Sarian > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:16:45 -0500 (EST) From: Bukary@aol.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: KTouray@aol.com Subject: Re: New Member-Intro Message-ID: <970203081644_1760909492@emout16.mail.aol.com> Hi, My name is CHERNO GAYE. I am from Serrekunda, The Gambia. I came to The United States in 1978 and attended Seton College and Hofstra University in New York. I am currently the C.E.O. and General Manager of Shop Smart Magazine, a division of Lulu Publications. It is certainly a great honor to be a part of this manifestation of Gambian consciousness, under the auspices of The University of Washington. Cherno Gaye ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:27:39 -0500 From: Ceesay Soffie <Ceesay_Soffie@ems.prc.com> To: "'gambia-l@u.washington.edu'" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: just a tip Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=PRC%l=CRY1-970203132739Z-436@mcl2.prc.com> Consumer: When people ask me about buying a computer for home, I usually respond with, "How much are you willing to spend?" and/or "What are you planning to use it for?" Then I either say "Now's a good time to buy because..." or "Wait a while for..." A response, usually is, "Why should I wait? What's coming up?" So I'll give a somewhat brief description of what I have read coming up in the world of IBM PC Compatibles. No offense to Mac fans, but from what I hear Apple is planning, this is the beginning of the end for Macintoshes as we know them. If this gets a little confusing, things will begin to clear up as the year progresses and the hype heats up. The following is a tentative timeline of what's been released and what will be released from Intel: Currently: Pentium (P5) - Has been around for over two years, and capable for most business applications. Best incarnations are the ones with a 66MHz bus speed (multiples of 66): Pentium 100, Pentium 133, Pentium 166, and Pentium 200. 60 MHz bus speeds (multiples of 60) are not only slower but are inferior in design (90, 120, 150). Pentium Pro (P6) - If you use Windows NT, it runs best on a Pentium Pro. Contrapositively, if you have a Pentium Pro machine, don't run any other operating system except Windows NT. Windows 95 actually runs slower on a P6 than a P5 machine! This machine will be dead before it ever became popular (see below). Pentium MMX (P55) - You've heard the hype and the reality. If you have to get a new system now, get this. If you want to upgrade an old Pentium, don't bother. Either way, the classic Pentium should NOT be your NEXT computer. Coming up: Pentium Pro MMX (Klamath) - Klamath is due out in the spring of 1997 and will be running at clock speeds of 233 MHz and 266 MHz (but still only 66 MHz bus speed). This is a cheaper CPU to produce, as well as a better overall performer than the classic Pentium Pro. Like the Pentium MMX, Klamath will render Pentium Pro's obsolete, because it and all CPUs that follow will have MMX. This is also the beginning of a new era of CPUs from Intel. No longer will they be shipped as chips, but instead as cards. Tillamook - Expected to be the final release of the P5 chip, due 4th quarter of 1997. This Pentium will run at a clock speed of 233 MHz (66 MHz bus) and will be implemented in notebook computers also. Deschutes - Due out by the end of 1997, Deschutes will run at 300 MHz (75MHz bus speed) and 333 MHz (83 MHz bus speed). With the improved internal bus speed, performance increases will be even more than what is shown on the surface (clock speeds 300 and 333). This will also change the industry in two ways: SDRAM will be the standard memory for these machines, doing away with DRAM and EDO DRAM (more on memory at a later date). This will also be the first Pentium Pro CPU to be used in notebook computers. Pentium Pro MMX-2 (Katmai) - Due in the first half of 1998, Katmai will include a set of additions to the now infamous MMX instruction set for CPUs. Essentially, the same as Deschutes except this time "noticeable" increases in multimedia performances. Again, according to Intel, MMX does not stand for Multimedia Extensions! Willamette (P68) - Due out in the second half of 1998, this is the last incarnation of the Pentium Pro (and it's only a year and a half away). This CPU will run at clock speeds between 333 and 400 MHz, and sport a huge 100 MHz bus speed! Like the classic Pentium, Willamette will probably be the CPU of choice for a relatively long time after it's release (2 years or so). Merced (P7) - Due out late 1998, the Merced will be a whole different machine. Instead of the 32-bit architecture of the previous CPUs, this will have a 64-bit architecture. Intel, HP, and Microsoft are moving their respective resources and technologies toward the direction Merced. Initially, it will be used mainly for servers, so don't expect a P7 to be on your desktop anytime soon. So as you can see the technology for IBM PC compatible machines are moving at a relatively speedy pace now. At no time in the past has Intel made as drastic changes at as fast a pace as they will in the next two years. And that's just the CPUs... The following are the less expensive (and often better performing) Intel clone CPUs and what Intel CPU they are equivalent to: Cyrix 6x86 and 6x86L (currently available)- Pentium Cyrix M2 (2nd quarter 1997)- Klamath AMD K5 (currently available)- Pentium AMD K6 (2nd quarter 1997)- Klamath Bottom Line: If you have a Pentium 90 level computer or above and "enough" memory, you're going to be safe with your business applications well into 1999 (It's the games and the multimedia apps that constantly push the industry limits). Pentium MMX is the way to go until that time, if you're not demanding. Once Willamette settles into reasonable prices, that will probably be the next machine to sustain a long level of relevance. Till next time. P.S. I WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO MY MAIL 'TIL FRIDAY. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 18:26:11 +0300 From: BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> To: GAMBIA-L@U.WASHINGTON.EDU Subject: RE: GAMBIA'S HEALTH SITUATION Message-ID: <31137E93.348F@QATAR.NET.QA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mr.SAHO!! Thanks very much we are very grateful to have you with us here.Your these thoughts on the Health Situation back home have been most instructive.We would appreciate it very much if you could from time to time share with us your thoughts,esp. in your area of expertise. Again that was great,and THANK YOU VERY MUCH !! Regards Bassss!! --=20 SZDD=88=F0'3Af=A8=03 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:50:14 -0800 (PST) From: Debbie Proctor <proctord@u.washington.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: "What a Shocker" Message-ID: <Pine.PTX.3.95c.970203092823.8422A-100000@carson.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In response to the message forwarded regarding the person who participated in "The Road that Led to Freedom" on Martin Luther King Day. I deleted the message, The person was shocked to find that Blacks in the US needed a special right to vote. While I remembered some of the US Constitution, this message brought great dismay so I went to the Library this weekend to find out what this person was talking about. Once again, people are not getting all their facts straight. Hence, a brief lesson on the US> Constitution: The 13th Amendment of the United States Constitution call for the emancipation of Slavery in December of 1865. Word did not reach certain parts of the South such as Texas, thus requiring traveling word of mouth, which took until June of the following year to reach throughout. Thus the Junetenth celebration, observed by many Blacks today. To make it very clear The 14th Amendment 1866 was written and passed giving all races the right to vote. Since age came into question The 18th Amendment 1868 was written stating anyone 18 years of age or older and a citizen of the United States the right to vote. During the lst world war, with the absence of men, women started in the work force and marched to win their right, thus The 19th Amendment 1920 was written giving Women the right to vote. So you see the 13th, 14th, 18th, and 19th Amendments cover not only Black but all citizens of the US the right to vote. The problems came in enforcing the constitution, just because we had the right didn't mean we had access. In some parts of the country every obstacle was put in our way or polling stations were only located in the white areas where blacks were not allowed to go. Guard dogs were stationed in some cases outside the polling stations or whites created a test that was meant for only whites to be able to pass. Thus the 1965 Voting Rights Act signed by President Johnson which forces the federal government to ensure blacks could get to the polls in the southern states. In 1970 after seeing there were still some rural areas in midwestern and western states, Congress expanded this act to encompass those states, which then President Reagan signed. In 20-07 Congress will review this Act and if there are still problems facing its citizens from access to vote it will be readdress, if not the Act will be left as is, with no further modifications. To amend or add a amendment to the US Constitution it must be past by 2/3 of the 50 states. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Debbie Proctor, Administrator U of W Conference Housing (206) 543-8443 McCarty Hall, Box 354471 (206) 543-4094 Seattle, Wa. 98l95 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 97 12:15:42 -0600 From: Francis Njie <francis_njie@il.us.swissbank.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Taiwan's trade with the Gambia Message-ID: <9702031815.AA00712@new_delhi> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3risc v124.8483.5) Content-Type: text/plain Latir, I beg to differ... For what it is worth, Tombong Saidy is a public official and for that matter should be subject to personal scrutiny as all other public officials are. Revealing his character on this forum makes absolute sense when one considers that he is the spokesperson (at least on gambia-l) for the current regime. Indeed, his role becomes suspect even to the most naive when one considers his criminal record in the US. The list should certainly not serve as a protective cocoon for our politicians, especially for those of questionable character. That would be contrary to all notions of democracy, especially on the 'Net... - Francis Begin forwarded message: Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:40:00 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Sender: GAMBIA-L-owner@u.washington.edu From: Latir Downes-Thomas <latir@earthlink.net> To: "GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Taiwan's trade with the Gambia X-Mailer: FPRetail Version 5.00a X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Abdou, Come on now! This is a bit too personal for this forum. > Mr. Saidy, > Here we indeed go again. If you remember, you had the same > sanctimonious and uncouth response when you were kicked out of the US by > the American government If you have something to say to Mr. Saidy, or anyone for that matter, just let them know directly or keep it to yourself. The last thing we need here is a barrage of personal attacks. For one one it turns people off and secondly others will not take you as seriously as you deserve. Since I've been on this list I've found your contributions quite positive. This simply isn't necessary. Just take it easy ma man.;-) Peace. Lat P.S. I hope this isn't the beginning of all out personal attacks list-wide! I urge others to show restraint and keep the discussion healthy. :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Standard Disclaimers: The opinions/ideas expressed here are mine alone. They do not reflect the policies of my employer in any way whatsoever. Furthermore, because I have no political affiliation, political figures and parties mentioned here are necessarily incidental to my opinions. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 97 12:29:10 -0600 From: Francis Njie <francis_njie@il.us.swissbank.com> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Gambia and the UN. Message-ID: <9702031829.AA00717@new_delhi> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3risc v124.8483.5) Content-Type: text/plain >> The addition of two or three good hard working diplomats with the ability >> write their own statements would be great for the Gambia. There is quite a >> bit that goes on here in New York. Just about all the countries of the >> world are represented. The additional staff would free our Amb. of the >> burden of this committee work and allow him to act like his counterparts of >> other countries. He could then help move Gambia's foreign policy agenda >> more effectively working one on one with officials from other countries and >> the U.N. while at the same time Gambia could be properly represented as an >> actively participating member of the U.N. >> >> Now that we are back to constitutional rule, there must be quite a bit of >> mending vis a vis our relations with the U.S. I'm sure our Embassy in >> Washington needs some help too, especially now the next year's budget (i.e. >> foreign assistance) is going to be deliberated in Congress soon. I'm sure >> the extra staff could be effectively shared between New York and Washington >> to move both agenda's forward. I second remedying the staffing needs of the offices in NY and DC. The need for a strong presence in NY especially is more crucial now than it probably ever was... - Francis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:33:39 -0500 (EST) From: mjallow@st6000.sct.edu (Modou Jallow) To: Gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: NKOYO,SCEPTICISM IS GOOD!! Message-ID: <9702032033.AA48882@st6000.sct.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bass, you wrote: > So,now > that that era of nighmarish slumber is over and the shroud that used > to prevent us from thinking straight and properly under the Jawara > Era removed,thanks to the Jammeh revloution,I am not at all surprised at > the almost explosive nature of the resentment > directed against whoever holds power in the Gambia,not only that,there > is a part of me that shows a sympathetic understanding for such emotions > given the magnitude of rot and gloom that prevailed under the former > regime. Bass, For one of the extreme contributors on this list, I must say you are living dangerously on the edge every time you post a new defensive message. Since it's hard for you to hit the bull's eye, I feel compelled to label you inconsistent on your notes. Sometimes you are heard praising people for no real reasons while other times you are attacking them for being straight-forward. I am not sure why you have to be hard on someone who believes differently of your views but you should realize that each of us has his/her own bias in one direction or another. As you mentioned, a half-full glass is also a half-empty one, but it also true that a true follower must not compromise how far UP or DOWN his/her leader must go before he incurs blame. It will be extremely wise for you and I to remember that it is possible to go wrong in many ways, but there is only one way of being right, that is why going wrong is easy, and going right is difficult. that is also why two wrongs will never make a right. When face with feelings of insecurity and danger, a person must be able to show his/her courage. He/she may have many choices to make but in the end he can only, either exceed his confidence and assume everything is all right or he can rid himself off fear and accept the path of truth. Nothing personal. Ramadhan Karim to all!!!! Regards, Moe S. Jallow ============================================================================== mjallow@sct.edu mjallow@hayes.com ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 97 15:48:04 -0500 From: alfall@papl.com To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: RE: 'Portrait of an imagined session' Message-ID: <"061CA0C5*Fall_Amadou_L/NUC_GO2//US/IBMX400/PPL"@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="openmail-part-0e849d39-00000001" --openmail-part-0e849d39-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RE:" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- From: GAMBIA-L-owner; KTouray To: gambia-l Subject: 'Portrait of an imagined session' Date: Saturday, February 01, 1997 4:11PM K. Touray wrote (Note that this an excerpt of Mr. Touray's posting) > Here is an account of a thought that occured to me recently. Of course none > of the events i recount actually happened but i figured the graceful members > of this wonderful list would allow me to take them on journey that is part > fantasy and part reality most of us yearn... Karamba, I must complement you on a well written piece. I suggest that for those members that have some tie with the APRC government, that this posting be shared with them for their consideration. Peace Amadou Fall --openmail-part-0e849d39-00000001 Content-Type: application/x-openmail-1734; name="WINMAIL.DAT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IgAAAQuAAQCJAAAAOTcwMjAxMTYxMTQ0KHUpOTQ4NzEwMDM3KGEpZW1vdXQwMi5tYWls LmFvbC5jb20dR0FNQklBLUwtb3duZXIdHR0dSU5URVJORVQdHR0dHVVTHUlCTVg0MDAdUFBM HR0dHVJGQy04MjIdR0FNQklBLUwtb3duZXJAdS53YXNoaW5ndG9uLmVkdQCuJQ== --openmail-part-0e849d39-00000001-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:18:36 -0400 (AST) From: "Inqs." <nfaal@is2.dal.ca> To: BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> Cc: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: NKOYO,SCEPTICISM IS GOOD!! Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95.970203160948.174526A-100000@is2.dal.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I don't think that I have been conditioned to oppression in any way. During the thirty years, I was not impressed with the govt, but rather disgusted with the level of underdevelopment and corruption. During the first week of the takeover, I was very impressed with the manner of the takeover and was its avid supporter, however, events were able to change my mind, most of which I have already mentioned. I don't think that the previous regime was better, and I most certainly don't want it back. On the same token, in the manner that I scrutinised the previous govt, I will scrutinise the present one and should I find anything that displeases or alarms me, I will question it, something you seem to have a problem with. I did not accept substandard govt then and will not do so now Preponderance of Good, ok fair enough. I beg to differ on that point, and as I have already presented the evidence for my position, would you please to condescend to offer yours (apart from the infrastructure, that has already been covered). I deeply resent you saying that my paragraphs were ranting and raving, sreaming and shouting (if that is possible on the net). Perhaps you think I am a madwoman? Were my paragraphs not clear and coherent, did you not reply to my points, were you not able to understand where I was coming from? If so, then i don't think that your description is accurate..... To the question of wild allegations, what do you consider a wild allegation? Is anything I said unfamiliar to you? Are they not substantiated by the numerous discussiona each and every single one generated on the list, some of which you contributed to? What do you consider an irresponsible reductionism and a frightening generalisation? Sceptism is the science of truth, I definitely agree, so please tell me if I printed any untruths. Determining the truth is what I'm about. Might I remind you that we still have not received the govt explanation as to what the funds were doing in a private account. Economical with the truth? How? Please tell me what part of the picture did I leave out, and where did I fill it in with untruth? And finally, you called me a doubting thomas. I could only be so if I denied the obvious in the face of overwhelming evidence, perhaps seeing that in your opinion I am blind, YOU could furnish me with irrefutable evidence. And just to keep the discussion cordial, please avoid adjectives that imply negativities, as they arev analogous to personal insults. Thanx, N'koyo ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 01:07:50 +0300 From: BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> To: GAMBIA-L@U.WASHINGTON.EDU Subject: TWO WRONGS = RIGHT Message-ID: <3113DCB5.5584@QATAR.NET.QA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mr.JALLOW!! Don't at all worry about being personal with me; I am a great sport! Benjamin Franklin has taught us that our critics are our best friends in that they are the ones who help us understand our own failings.So,I am personally not worried about being criticised and I would hope and wish that the same SENTIMENTS exist on the other side. Before LABELLING me as dangerously on the EDGE,perhaps you should try to first read the pieces I did respond to and decide for yourself whether the TONE of my responses are not more or less proportionate to those of the pieces that precipitated them.And as AN ADVICE,stop repeating JARGONS and CLIQUES and start thinking about them!! WHO says Two wrongs don't sometimes MAKE RIGHT?! Else,how could you explain the fact that some societies MURDER A MURDERER.To me,its much more dangerous to WRITE before THINKING than to defend strongly what you believe in. Regards Bassss!! --=20 SZDD=88=F0'3Af=A8=03 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:13:56 -0800 (PST) From: Debbie Proctor <proctord@u.washington.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Compensation Message-ID: <Pine.PTX.3.95c.970203151226.16235H-100000@carson.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please, does anyone know what The Gambian President legally receives as salary and compensation for his duties as President?????? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Debbie Proctor, Administrator U of W Conference Housing (206) 543-8443 McCarty Hall, Box 354471 (206) 543-4094 Seattle, Wa. 98l95 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 03:00:53 +0300 From: BASS KOLLEH DRAMMEH <KOLLS567@QATAR.NET.QA> To: GAMBIA-L@U.WASHINGTON.EDU Subject: NKOYO, OLIVE BRANCH!! Message-ID: <3113F735.7A86@QATAR.NET.QA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NKOYO!! Your this LATEST is the kind of piece I would have CUT MY RIGHT ARM just to have the opportunity to respond to.But as a sign of TRUCE and to demonstrate to you beyond doubt that there was not the slightest intention on my part to SLIGHT you,I will choose not to reply this time around.Interestingly,or should I say embarassingly,I didn't until now realise that you are a woman.Because,even though I am not sexist in any way,and my wife can confirm that,I nontheless have a language for GUYS and another for GALS.And my last piece was definitely meant for a GUY,which I thought you were(Laugh!) Humour aside,I want to say again that I am PROFOUNDLY SORRY if you felt slighted by=20 my terse response.Please,cheer up and accept my APOLOGY!! =09 Regards Basss!! --=20 SZDD=88=F0'3Af=A8=03 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 19:27:54 -0500 From: "Jarju Malafy" <mafy@avana.net> To: <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: New Member Message-ID: <199702040035.TAA30780@tiger.avana.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amadou Scattred/List managers Please add Pa Abdou Barrow to the list. His address is Abarrow@rr5.intel.com Thanks guys Mafy Jarju (DeVry Institute of Technology) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 19:49:05 -0500 (EST) From: ABDOU <at137@columbia.edu> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Forwarding ! Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.970203194806.16420F-100000@terve.cc.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII /* Not Written By Abdou. !!!!! */ From: Dana <dott@aed.aed.org> To: gambia-l@u.washington.edu Cc: "GAMBIA-L: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List" <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: African Centre for Democracy In-Reply-To: <9702031829.AA00717@new_delhi> Message-Id: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.970203145923.13062A-100000@aed.aed.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Fellow Listmembers: The recent submission of introductory material originally included for subscribers reminded me of a question I've been wanting to ask the list. When I was in The Gambia in 1993, I interned for a while at the African Centre for Democracy and Human Rights Studies - not to be confused with the African Commission on Human Rights (the U.N. organization) Actually, they were in the same building on Kairaba Avenue next to the US Embassy. Anyway, I have heard that the African Centre for Democracy and Human Rights Studies was shut down - allegedly because of corruption/embezzlement or some such thing. Can anyone confirm this for me? And if so, what happened to their substantial collection of documents and materials? Thanks everyone. Dana Ott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 21:16:33 -0600 From: Ndey Drammeh <NDRAMME@wpo.it.luc.edu> To: Ceesay_Soffie@ems.prc.com, gambia-l@u.washington.edu Subject: Domestic Violence Message-ID: <s2f655e1.086@wpo.it.luc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Gambia-L, I would like to begin by extending my deepest sympathy to the family of the young women who was recently killed in New York City. May her soul rest in peace! The death of a loved one is always a very difficult thing to cope with. It is even more difficult to deal with if a loved one was killed senselessly. If the allegation that the young lady was killed by an abusive ex-husband is true, then her death is even more tragic. So, please, let us all take some time and think about domestic violence and its implications. Domestic violence is not just about inflicting pain. It is also about using mental and physical abuse to control the behavior of a loved one, such as a wife or girlfriend. In a nutshell, domestic violence is about who is in charge. Anyone can be the perpetrator or the victim of domestic abuse. However, the majority of the victims are women. It is possible that some of us are presently in abusive relations without realizing it or are in denial, i.e., ignoring the problem hoping that it will soon go away. It anyone is currently the perpetrator of domestic abuse, please stop! If anyone is currently a victim, please get out of the abusive relationship before it is too late! For those of you who think that the problem is only temporary and will soon disappear, stop fooling yourselves. On one can stop the abuse, only you can put a stop to it by getting out now. Too late may mean losing you life. Now that is indeed a very expense price to pay for love!! Good night to everyone. Ndey Kumba Drammeh Loyola University Chicago, Illinois ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:07:19 -0500 From: "Latir Downes-Thomas" <latir@earthlink.net> To: <gambia-l@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Taiwan's trade with the Gambia Message-ID: <199702040429.UAA16571@armenia.it.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Francis, You definitely have a point here. > Latir, I beg to differ... > > For what it is worth, Tombong Saidy is a public official and for that matter > should be subject to personal scrutiny as all other public officials are. What I do find interesting is the following: > Revealing his character on this forum makes absolute sense when one considers > that he is the spokesperson (at least on gambia-l) for the current regime. While I had an idea about Mr. Saidy's position in our government when I joined this list, I was always under the assumption, perhaps wrongly, that his membership here was unofficial (yes, I know, even though most of his postings seem to the contrary). I think this is mainly why I thought Abdou's message was somewhat unnecessary. The reason I have been assuming this is because while all sorts of criticism and accusations against our government have been made, I have noticed that Mr. Saidy has been rather selective in his responses, i.e. what he responds to. If Mr. Saidy is indeed on this list in an official capacity then I would love to know since I have posed a few questions on this list that have gone unanswered and that I believe he should be in position to respond to. Mr. Saidy, could you kindly clear the air on this issue. (Without getting personnal now. :-) ) Peace. Lat ------------------------------ [/quote]   Check here to include your profile signature.