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kayjatta



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Posted - 04 Jul 2007 :  08:30:57  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Sir Salman Rushdie divorced by his fourth wife
By Matthew Moore
Last Updated: 2:25am BST 03/07/2007



Sir Salman Rushdie and his wife Padma Lakshmi are to divorce after less than three years of marriage, it was announced today.


Padma Lakshmi and Sir Salman wed in 2004
A spokesman for the novelist, who was knighted in the Queen's Birthday Honours, said that Lakshmi had requested the split.

"Salman Rushdie has agreed to divorce his wife Padma Lakshmi because of her desire to end their marriage."

Lakshmi, an Indian-born actress and model, was Sir Salman's fourth wife. They met in 1999 while he was still married to his third wife Elizabeth West, and married five years later.

Rumours that the marriage was in trouble have been circulating for weeks. At 36, she is 24 years his junior.

Sir Salman's recent knighthood renewed controversy over his 1989 novel the Satanic Verses, which many Muslims believe is blasphemous.

A prominent Iranian cleric appeared on state radio to declare that the fatwa issued against him by the Ayatollah Khomeini was "still alive", raising new fears for his safety.

Sir Salman's second novel Midnight's Children won the Booker Prize in 1981 and was then awarded the Booker of Bookers in 1993 as the greatest work of literature to win the prize in its first quarter-century.






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Santanfara



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Posted - 04 Jul 2007 :  09:55:10  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
kayatta ,the SIR has always been a playboy .he couldn't ahered to our noble teachings so the rant and rave in the silly novel. i read some parts of the book but it was feel with disgust .i am no an IT expert if not i will down load it here for people to read what nonsence the acclaim novelist wrote ,but since his words where more against islam than christain or hindu he was given royal treatment. i did not accept ayatollas threat on his life ,the man is a damage goods anyway.
on the novel he use more than seventy f words . he insulted white women so bad only a twenty fisrt century liberal culture made him be protected under the guise of freedom to wtite and speech .he even insulted the then British prime minister thacther . so we muslims only became angry because the lies against the prophet and the quran and then the general insult againt the mothers of every muslim. but hey we are told there is freedom to write any thing against any one ,so they say .but i believe this is true only if it is against the percive enemy .in 2001 i watch a christian panel praising rusdies courage ,i was outraged .how can a religious organisation praise an insulting author ? but may be they too fall victim to the media coverage .they should have read the book .
for my muslim brothers the verse salman call satanic is in suratul an-najm .the ending parts .i will complete the rest later. why did he call that verse satanic ? well easy ,this story is well decomented by muslim writers .in the ending of suraltul an-najm ,the verse was addressing the maccan unbelievers directly in the kaba ,at the last part of the verse the words went like this ''what those it benefit you unbelievers in worshiping stones and objects that you yourself made with your own hands ''? the verse admonish the unbelievers to stop idol worship and people worship .at that the verse call unbelievers to fall dowm in prostration to the only one god who created the heavens and earth .to which the unbelivers fall dowm in prostration. this is what salman call satanic verses .why ?because after the unbelievers falldown in prostration ,they where not muslims then ,so later other unbelievers started mocking the ones that falldown in prostration .in reply the one's that prostrated said we did not obeying the words of muhammad but that of satan .how stupid can salman gets. but surely every anti-islamic sentiment is highly wellcome. no research ,no verifying ,nothings. this is the lies he told in england and he became a celibrity .
i will try to dowmload the analysis by email to momodou if he accept then he can forward it here .or check out www.irf.net and look for salman's satanic verses .
momodou again if you can please forward suratul an-najm here .it is quran chapter 53 .you can dowmload the whole surah let people read ,we have nothing to hide or be embarased about .or even dalton can dowm load from islamic city .thanks .

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com

Edited by - Santanfara on 04 Jul 2007 10:54:03
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jambo



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Posted - 04 Jul 2007 :  10:26:48  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
the man is a waste of space, but a brilliant showman.
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kayjatta



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Posted - 04 Jul 2007 :  10:54:12  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
I personally think Rusdie is controversial, but in any case a scholar and intellectual. Because of that I respect him. He has written other books besides Satanic Verses.
Marriage is a lot of times problematic for many scholars . Albert Einstein (himself married twice) once compared marriage to his pipe , which gets clogged a lot of times.
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Santanfara



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Posted - 04 Jul 2007 :  11:08:27  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
kayatta, we can all dance to the tune of good writter but how many writers out there can't even get a book publish ? which book made him famous ? i am not at all against the man ,he is entitle to his opinion .but insulting people and getting away with it is not right (moname) my freind. use your pen wisely and intellectually. i read books by hundred of non-muslims ,but if i directly insult your parents my friend however liberal and openminded you are ,you will get offended ,so lets cut the crap.

we can all shout loud about our liberalism but how many liberals do we have endorsing high tech exterminations or more appropriately going about there business as if nothing is hapening ?

i will try putting the website here for those who want to get the true words of the book .www.irf.net/can_you_stomach_the_best_of_rushdie.doc

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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Santanfara



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Posted - 04 Jul 2007 :  11:12:27  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
i have down load the website .people can read some extracts for themsleves and Dedat's explanation of why he advocate for muslims to remain calm and use there intellect to answer salamns nonsence.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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kayjatta



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Posted - 04 Jul 2007 :  11:35:08  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
I do not agree with the theme of Rusdie's Satanic Verses , and I think by-and-large it is futile to spend so much time and creativity to attack a phenominally popular faith like Islam or Christianity , not because they may be factually wrong but because of their monumental contribution to human life .
But I cannot choose for Rusdie or any other writer what topic they should or should not write about. That right is entirely up to them to exercise.
Ahmed Deedat's commentaries are great , but as an activist for Islam his opinion about Rusdie and his work is naturally biased-not necessarily wrong however. Dr. Ali A. Mazrui a Kenyan political scientist and a Muslim, resident in the U.S. also discussed Rusdie's Satanic Verses, somewhat more objectively in one of his books.He did a great job at that.
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serenata



Germany
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Posted - 04 Jul 2007 :  13:42:12  Show Profile Send serenata a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jambo

the man is a waste of space, but a brilliant showman.

jambo, you hit the nail right on the head
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Santanfara



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Posted - 04 Jul 2007 :  22:14:15  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
kayatta , i will ask you one question ,you may choose to answer or not answer ,i am not in any way puting you under pressure. the question is which writer or interpreter can you tell me don't write from a particular perspective ? every writer writes from a certain experience and defend what he/she feels is accurate or acceptable. we all have our unique baises ,so for you to say mr dedat was a islamic activist and his response will bias is misleading. what about salman himself ? wasn't he bais in is book .mr Dedat put forward what the western media blank out .most critic in the west who knew what rushdie's motives were didn't spare him ,but many writers and authors stood by him simply beacuse the ayatollah threaten his life which shouldn't have been done. the threat shouldn't be made . so whether me ,you or the next door neigbour ,we all have our peculiar baises .mr dedat have debated openly with missionaries all over the world ,so he knew how to control his baisness . we read things and we made our own human judgement .
secondly ,i never said any one should think for salman or any author for that matter. what i was advocating is that ,freedom of speech and to write comes with responsility especailly when it concerns faith and politics. this are sentimental isuues. millions of people died because of nazi idealogy which was propounded by books and lyrics .who are this writers and who are the readers ,we don't know ,but propaganda help spread dangerous ideas which have harm human beings with little control. your university professor writes from an angle ,so is your pastor or imam .we see things differently.that is why diversity is advocated by momodou at the cyber bantaba .professors in america and europe are teaching phd in islamic studies whilst they are not muslims ,they are orrientalist .this people are teaching from an angle. yet muslim students attend there lectures .few refuse but many attend .even jews are teaching degrees in islamic science in many universities yet muslims and non-muslim religious students attend lectures .
the writer writies but th reader reads as well , you make your mind .thanks.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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Santanfara



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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 :  01:06:26  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
a down load of suratul an-najm .this is the surah or chapter they calim is satanic verses .read for your self. . .
www.tafsir.com/Default.ASP SCROL down to chapter 53 and click go .there you have the whole verses .

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com

Edited by - Santanfara on 05 Jul 2007 01:09:25
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kayjatta



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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 :  11:10:43  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Santafara , thanks for your response to this topic. I am by-no-means saying that literary or academic biasness is unique to certain people only. I must admit that we are all biased to some extent , but in writing , unless you are advocating for a particular point of view , it is important to admit the weaknesses of your own perspective . It is very helpful as an objective analyst , to detach yourself from the issue being analysed in order to prevent your emotions, beliefs and sentiments from spilling into the facts of the issue.
I do not know if you read "Satanic Verses" or not ( I know many who call for the death of the author did not even read that book. The rumor that he insulted Islam is enough for them),but even among Muslims there is no uniform reaction to Rusdie's fourth and perhaps the most controversial book.Many Islamic scholars tried to understand the book from an intellectual perspective ( in a historical context) while many of the rank-and-file took the emotional pathway. How about George Owell's "Animal Farm" and its impact on communism, any comparisons ?
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Santanfara



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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 :  11:49:12  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
thanks kayatta , i said the same ,salman shouldn't be threaten ,this gave him the celibrity status he is enjoying today. he is still a muslim from what i read yesterday .we live in different times .if he indeed return to his native country ,i think it is iran or india may be he may be tried for breaching the peace ,i don't know but he shouldn't be threaten with death.
yes ,again some muslims easily show disgust and pile in streets shouting about nothing. we live in the age of intellectual discouse ,so i don't actualy like easy demonstrations and so on. and this view is held by many in the scholarly circle including dedat.thanks anyway .as i said i read some parts of the book but it wasn't worth the salt. have a nice day.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com

Edited by - Santanfara on 05 Jul 2007 11:50:57
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kayjatta



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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 :  12:29:02  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
You most welcome , Santa. You are definitely right , too. Here are the words of Niels Bohr , a Danish physicist:"every great truth is one whose opposite is also a great truth".
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kayjatta



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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 :  12:44:37  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Santa. you are right Rusdie was , maybe not now, a muslim from India. That fact is why I mentioned Owell's "Animal Farm" a satire that ridicules Stalin's Russia, when infact Owell was a stauch socialist himself. But you would not know Owell's socialist inclination until you read his other books.Thanks sir.
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mbay

Germany
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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 :  15:24:24  Show Profile Send mbay a Private Message
sired-man rusted!
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anna



Netherlands
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Posted - 05 Jul 2007 :  18:15:27  Show Profile Send anna a Private Message
Mbay: what's that??

I have to admit: i am a great admirer of Mr Rushdie: his books can make you laugh and cry at the same time (let's be nostalgic: some of Cornelius Hamelberg's writings reminded me of Rushdie). I have read all his books, but the Satanic Verses was not my favourite. Still: hard to see what the fuss was all about. I am relieved to read in some postings that the majority of the protesters probably never read the book.
What's wrong with a little self-mockery (i never felt he was making Islam look ridiculous)? I have read lots of books where some aspects of Christianity were mocked or put into perspective - of course there were bookburnings too, but that was 300 (or more) years ago.

When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
Amadou Hampate Ba (Mali)
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